No, you need it to rise more and more until it stops rising completely, and forms a horizon, which it does.
And the point is A FLAT SURFACE WILL NOT DO THAT!
It will NEVER stop for a flat surface.
For a flat surface it just continues to rise FOREVER!
So in order to have it stop you need the surface to change orientation.
e.g. you can have a corner, such the corner at the edge of a table, where that corner results in the surface no longer appearing to rise.
Or you can have a curve where it continues to change orientation, eventually reaching a point where it stops rising.
And no, you don't need it to stop rising. You need it to appear to drop back down to cause objects to disappear from the bottom up.
The continually greater rise over more distance does not occur over a spherical object
Because it reaches a point WHERE IT STOPS and then goes back down!
i.e. it does the very thing you admit it needs to do to work.
Look above the surface of a ball.
Yes, go ahead, look at it.
Observe how the surface initially appears to rise, until it reaches a point where it stops rising.
Observe how the larger the ball is or the closer you are to it, the more it appears to rise before it stops and goes back down.
When you look outward from the top of a huge sphere, it’s size doesn’t make it constantly rise up more and more, because it curves downward more and more, no matter how large the sphere is.
Only because you eventually reach a point where it stops.
Imagine you are on the most massive sphere possible.
Possible in what way?
Are you just talking about a hypothetical?
If so, fine.
Lets imagine we are on a massive sphere, with a radius of
1 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 km.
i.e. 1 sextillion km.
What would this look like?
And more importantly, how much does it differ to a hypothetical flat Earth?
Consider the point observed to actually be on the horizon for an observer with an eye height of 2 m above the level surface (which matches a RE).
The eye height is 2 m above a hypothetical flat reference plane.
So for a FE, that horizon is a circle 2 m below eye height.
For a the real round Earth it would be roughly 4 m below.
And for this hypothetical, using the simple approximation of drop=distance^2/(2*R) gives us a drop of 0.00000000000000001 m.
That is 0.00000001 nm.
That is tiny.
It is much less than an atom.
You would be able to fit this distance roughly 10 million times inside a hydrogen atom.
If a flat surface would magically make a horizon at a distance of 5 km, then so would this, because of just how little difference there is.
Even if we were on one side of the hypothetical pizza planet you love, and were looking all the way across, a distance of 40 000 km, that would have a drop of 0.8 nm.
That is roughly 7 hydrogen atoms.
A single grain of sand is millions of times more significant than that.
So if the sphere was large enough it would be entirely indistinguishable from a flat surface.
Any sufficiently small portion of a sufficiently large sphere is indistinguishable from a flat surface.
A flat surface can be seen as the limit of a spherical surface as the radius approaches infinity.
Size DOES matter.
Earth is not a tiny ball.
It is a massive ball.
Everything "curving down" doesn't magically mean it instantly goes out of sight.
Perspective acts on flat or mostly flat surfaces, but any curved surfaces will curve more and more over more distance, so they appear to rise less and less over more distance, not rise up more and more over distance.
As has been explained to you repeatedly, PERSPECTIVE DOES NOT GIVE A DAMN WHAT THE SHAPE OF THE SURFACE IS!
Perspective is merely a statement that far away things appear smaller. That as distance to the object increases, the apparent size of the object decreases.
And as has been explained to you, and proven beyond any doubt, a round surface WILL rise due to perspective, but only to a point. After some point it will stop and curve back down.
which is not possible on a curving down surface.
PROVE IT!
Stop just spouting the same pathetic lies.
You continually ignoring this to repeat the same pathetic lies, without even attempting to refute the proof that you are spouting pure BS, just demonstrates your dishonesty and your desperation.
If you want to claim that perspective magically stops working so any ball you look at appears as nothing more than a single point, then PROVE IT!
If you can't, then stop spouting the same dishonest BS.
It is the very opposite of how we’d see a curved surface over a distance.
No. It is EXACTLY how we would see a curved surface, as explained repeatedly, and even shown with examples.
A curved surface will appear to rise until it reaches a horizon where it stops and instead appears to go down.
We see this with balls, we see this with smooth, round hills, we see this from the math clearly describing what we should see.
Showing me their calculations of the physical properties and measurements doesn’t show what WE see
The calculations are to show you what you would expect to see for a round surface and a flat surface.
This would allow any honest person to compare what is predicted for a particular surface type to reality, to see which surface matches reality.
The calculations show a flat surface does not have a horizon, but a round surface does.
This means the fact we have a horizon is incredibly strong evidence that Earth is round.
The fact that the distance to the horizon, and the angle of dip of the horizon changes with observer altitude, in a manner entirely consistent with a RE, is further incredibly strong evidence that Earth is round.
If you want to pretend Earth is flat, you need to explain how a flat surface magically produces a horizon, as there is absolutely no reason for it.
The actual surface measures as flat, calculates as flat, but that’s not how we see it as.
No, it doesn't
Pathetic measurements can't tell if it is curved or not.
But highly accurate measurements such as those used to map out large areas to a very high degree of accuracy measure with curvature.
Measurements of the angle of dip to the horizon measure it as curved.
Nothing which is capable of measuring the curve of Earth measures it as flat.
We do not see it as flat either.
Again, the horizon is clear evidence that we see it as round. The measurements of the angle of dip to the horizon is measuring it as round.
You repeatedly lying will not change that fact.