Does anybody else despise long posts as much as I do? This is one of those posts. Sceptimatic, I have done my own earth shape experiments.
I had a nice Earth and moon scale model I had made, using an Earth globe and a ping pong ball. It was set up across my verandah and was perfectly to scale, size and distance wise, as per globe earth scientific measurements.
As per globe Earth scientific measurements?
You mean as per indoctrinated schooling that you followed and believed and basically followed the patterns schooled into you to gain what you already believed.
That's simply regurgitation and re-enactment of models already implanted for you.
Physically you know nothing of Earth in terms of shape but hypothetically you believe you do.
The beauty of it all being to scale, is I could bring my eye to close to the side of the Earth closest to the moon model and look at the moon, and confirm the moon looks the same size as it does when viewing the moon at night, in real life.
As above.
I also had a smaller Earth and moon model setup, to scale, ofcourse, showing the elliptical orbit of the moon with perigee and apogee. It worked quite well. I was going to add in the sun, but it starts to get tricky.
As above, once again.
As for other physical experiments do with Earth shape, I've done the usual. I've watched hundreds of ships and boats disappear over the horizon bottom first.
No, you haven't. You believe you have because that's what you were schooled into.
You put far too little emphasis on atmosphere creating a block out over distance due to light not being able to get back to your eyes, so losing light bottom first then top last as you would expect as the sea and sky hypothetically merge to create your hypothetical horizon line.
I've layed flat on the sand facing East and watched the first glimmer of the sun's rays as they peaked over the horizon at sunrise, then jumped up, and ran up the steps of a steep cliffside, and watched the sunrise all over again from the very first glimmer of rays. You can't do that on a flat Earth, pal.
Yep you would expect this to happen because, as I said in the quote just above this, you lose light bottom first before the top of your eye. Consider the shape of your eye and you'll get why.
So seeing the light fade as the sun moves over and away from you and then getting up higher and looking pinpoint direct, you will bring back the light to the bottom of your eye much more depending on the height.
I've tried to make a flat Earth model but there's nowhere to start when it comes to scale. Just, nothing works. It can't be done. Even a sun and moon hovering over a white plate, doesn't work, because some days when you look up in the daytime sky, you can see where the sun is, and not far away, you can see where the moon is, with the sun lighting up one side of the moon, just like a sun lights up one side of a ball.
Nothing works because you've been handed one thing on a plate that's had so much shoehorning to make it appear to be what you're told you actually see.
You don't seem to pay any real attention to any possibility of alternates, you just pretend you have.
I've also observed the setting sun, and the way the size of the sun does not change as it approaches the Western horizon, just as I'd expect if earth were a globe.
It does change size based on atmospheric conditions and the movement of the reflection to any person at specific spots.
At those times, I've become aware the sun was not setting at all, but Earth's Western horizon was moving up as I was going backwards, as if standing on a giant beach ball rolling me backwards.
You became aware that your schooling kicked in and your belief of a globe and distant sun some 93 million miles away and a few million miles in circumference in a vacuum was being seen to appear or disappear from your view based on whether your belief was you standing on a spinning ball taking you backwards away from it or forward towards it to create what you're told are your sunsets and sunrises, respectively.
It's utter gunk to be fair, in my opinion, but you're more than welcome to follow the schooling.
It's all relative, and to us here on Earth, the Sun is stationary, and it is Earth doing all the moving.
Or the sun is a moving reflection with its energy base in the centre of Earth. Obviously not to you and your schooling.
Ofcourse, I made a scale model to demonstrate that, as well.
Of course. I mean anyone can make any model if they have all the instructions at hand. And you are in abundance of instructions.
You can call my words gunk as much as you like, it doesn't change the fact you admit denpressure equals atmospheric pressure, and when you remove any atmospheric pressure around an object and test it, like in a vacuum chamber or extraction chamber, another force still brings that object towards the ground. Denpressure can't be the cause of it.
It doesn't change the fact that you have absolutely no clue about denpressure and are trying to offer up anything to make out you know something. It's as clear as anything you have no clue.
I've done my own homework and tested things for myself. But, I can see the appeal flat earth may offer at face value, in the context of feeling secure.
I'd say the feeling secure comes from your side. Adherence to mass acceptance and opinion based on massive peer pressure and a comfort blanket of appealing to authority to appear to offer something backed entirely by that, against those who actually dare to think for themselves.
The comfort for you is knowing your homework is done for you and all you have to do is spew it out and not really have to think. This is why most of you never have a clue about other thoughts because you struggle to change your mindset to dare to brush the ready-prepared homework aside, knowing the marks you get for it offer you a leg up in your mind.
I've been busier than a one legged man in an arse kicking competition, but when I'm less busy, I will flick the switch in my head and live my life for a week as a flat earther, as I said, and try hard to see why you love it so much.
You have no chance of flicking any switch in your head to look at anything alternate to your spinning globe and that is as clear as anything in this post of yours.