Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent

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Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« on: March 09, 2023, 10:45:30 PM »


From their first moments in the cradle, this is what the see overhead. Some sort of hanging planets or stars thing.

That's right, they're propagandized at a very young age, and then schoolteachers reinforce them in astrology.
(Oops, sorry "astonomy")



National Geographic is a big part of this thing. They see pictures as a child, they see NatGeo as an adult.



They blindly trust it as a fact source, and it is very very hard for someone to question what they have been told.

But you know, if you never do it? You're no better than a cultist.






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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2023, 11:39:07 PM »
Why do you adhere to the belief that the only way someone knows something is by being told by someone else?

Some of us actually use the observations and results of how the physical world works in our employment and hobbies, and make measurements and observations independent of someone else's "indoctrination "

I doubt you've ever made a direct measurement of the curvature of the earth. I have. I was told the Earth was round, I made an independent measurement to show it.

Curious people LOVE to question what they're told and to independently ask new questions and verify or refute old assumptions. That's a key part of science. Not blindly accepting a told "fact" but to reproduce a result and do it better and more accurately. And showing someone else the data if they think it's not right.

You may live in a world where learning is only about parroting back what you're told (I think that's called a religion). I live in a world where assumptions are always challenged and knowledge is always being revised and updated.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2023, 11:47:05 PM »
This depends on what you mean by insistent.

If you mean specifically why we keep on exposing your BS, it is because unlike you we care about the truth.

If you mean the more general advancement of knowledge, because a lot of people strive to understand the world, as with understanding comes the ability to make useful devices.

From their first moments in the cradle, this is what the see overhead.
Notice what is missing?
Anything resembling a RE.
So even with you pathetically cherry picking an example, you still fail to get one allegedly indoctrinating into a RE.

And there are plenty of different mobiles you can get.

National Geographic is a big part of this thing. They see pictures as a child, they see NatGeo as an adult.
And yet you solely target the RE.
What about the rest?
Where is your claim of indoctrination into coral reefs, or rocks or volcanoes?

They blindly trust it as a fact source, and it is very very hard for someone to question what they have been told.
But you know, if you never do it? You're no better than a cultist.
It is often easy to question what you are told.
Not everyone is a cultist like you.

There are plenty of experiments that everyday people can do to confirm Earth is round.
You refuse to do them because you can't handle Earth being round.

When you are presented with evidence that you cannot reconcile with a FE, you deflect and flee and make up excuses.

So until you are ready to face reality, you shouldn't go calling others cultists.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2023, 12:28:48 AM »
Global Earth believers are the arguing majority of accepted stories told and sold and their proof of those stories are based on pictures and CGI along with the narratives and nothing more than that.

It doesn't matter what arguments are for alternatives to a globe, it only matters that the globe is in question, massively because there is no proof.

Now because it is in question it stands to reason that those who question it will want to try and figure out what it could be and there are many suggestions.

What is needed is for the best guesses for potential reality, starting at the very basics.

When most of the known Earth of humans are brainwashed into one set specific then trying to argue logic with many of them will simply fall on deaf ears because the narrative has been firmly entrenched into their psyche.

Remember one thing. Humans are merely following animals with very few willing to stray from the pack. If you become part of that pack so tightly entrenched then you follow to a cliff edge and over it even if you have last minute doubt as to your direction and demise, because you will never turn against that flow and stop the inevitable, you have to be smarter and start to sidestep as you're ushered forward until you emerge out of the side, hopefully before the cliff edge.
And then you can understand why it's so easy to be caught up in that tidal wave of mass indoctrinated gathering.


The shepherd does not lead the sheep into the pen. The shepherd stays behind and watches those sheep being ushered into the pen.


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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2023, 12:49:57 AM »
It doesn't matter what arguments are for alternatives to a globe, it only matters that the globe is in question, massively because there is no proof.
Do you mean it doesn't matter what arguments are raised as alternatives because there is no proof of those alternatives?

Because there are mountains of evidence to support the globe.
You choosing to remain wilfully ignorant of that evidence doesn't magically make that evidence cease to exist.

Now because it is in question it stands to reason that those who question it will want to try and figure out what it could be and there are many suggestions.
And so far, the only ones which work have Earth being round.
No one has been able to provide a viable alternative.

Instead, they just come up with delusional BS, dismissing learning the truth as being indoctrinated, even though there are mountains of evidence to support the truth and none to challenge it.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2023, 01:02:59 AM »
Bulmatroll is just bored and shit posting. Hard to take him seriously

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2023, 01:08:56 AM »
There are several types of globalists, and the rationale for each needs to be examined separately.

The first type and the most common type are robot accounts. They work under an AI that constructs the perception that the world is a sphere. They don't have a choice, they don't think. They were not offered the alternative of believing something different or advocating something different. They are AI's slaves and servants, obligated to do whatever AI commands. There's no point in arguing with them because they always have answers for algorithmic reasons.

The second type is jinn. Most of them are hostile to humans and defend everything that is against humans. Since the lie of the globe world is against people, because it is based on lies and deception, they gladly defend this lie. They have a choice, they have free will, but they don't change, they simply don't.

The third type, physical slaves, are those who run the entire world. They are chosen, protected, empowered and misled by the enemies of humanity. Their numbers are few and they are by no means convinced. Only if their orders change, then they change. Almost all of the current top managers are in this group.

The last group are idiots. It consists of people with low intelligence level. They are the mass we call "sheep". They are easily manipulated and believe what they see on TV or social media. It is easy them to be deceived, and it is also easy to be persuaded again. They may change their minds, but it is not so easy as they have been manipulated for years.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1

Come on bro, just admit that the the earth isn't a sphere, you won't even be wrong

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2023, 01:15:45 AM »
Global Earth believers are the arguing majority of accepted stories told and sold and their proof of those stories are based on pictures and CGI along with the narratives and nothing more than that.

Yes, zero globe earthers have ever made observations, measured stuff, done experiments, engineered highly complex machines reliant on spherical earth and gravity and other sheeple notions. Yep, you sure got us there, as nothing works and no one or anything can seem to get anywhere because all of our spherical earth mumbo-jumbo is wrong.

Hmmm, and the proof of your stories is based upon what exactly? And your mumbo-jumbo is actually used by anyone to get anything accomplished, built, moved, etc.? Oh yeah, I forgot, none of your mumbo-jumbo is used for anything, anywhere, ever, by anyone. Your mumbo-jumbo has zero utility. Sorry, I keep forgetting that. 

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2023, 01:29:33 AM »


Because there are mountains of evidence to support the globe.
You choosing to remain wilfully ignorant of that evidence doesn't magically make that evidence cease to exist.


You're mixing up evidence with mountains of stories.
There's no real concrete evidence of any rotating globe and you know this.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2023, 01:31:11 AM »
Global Earth believers are the arguing majority of accepted stories told and sold and their proof of those stories are based on pictures and CGI along with the narratives and nothing more than that.

Yes, zero globe earthers have ever made observations, measured stuff, done experiments, engineered highly complex machines reliant on spherical earth and gravity and other sheeple notions. Yep, you sure got us there, as nothing works and no one or anything can seem to get anywhere because all of our spherical earth mumbo-jumbo is wrong.



 
You can't name me one legitimate engineered effort that you can back up to prove a rotating globe.

Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2023, 01:37:51 AM »


Because there are mountains of evidence to support the globe.
You choosing to remain wilfully ignorant of that evidence doesn't magically make that evidence cease to exist.


You're mixing up evidence with mountains of stories.
There's no real concrete evidence of any rotating globe and you know this.


What?

Hereís an old list

Despite..

Meteorite impact craters on earth.

Satellites tracked by radar.

Quote

Meet the amateur astronomers who track secretive spy satellites for fun
If Zuma is still up there, these are the people who might spot it.

BY MARY BETH GRIGGS JANUARY 12, 2018

https://www.popsci.com/zuma-spy-satellite-amateur-astronomer/

Lake Pontchartrain Power Transmission Lines: Evidence of Earthís Curvature

https://flatearth.ws/pontchartrain

Math associated with right triangles proves itís impossible for objects like the sun and North Star to appear to set beyond the horizon

Earthís movement and gravity backed by the theory of relativity, and shown in how it measurably impacts time/clocks. And ring laser gyroscopes.

Parabolic Motion of Projectiles

The blast from the Tsar nuclear bomb resulted in seismic waves and atmospheric pressure waves that circled the earth three times.

Distance to the sun measured by parallax

The way comets pivot around the sun.
Solar and lunar eclipses.
Comets pulled into the sun or Jupiter.

Over the horizon radar
Skywaves
Why shortwave has greater broadcast areas than ground FM
Why increasing antenna hight increases broadcast area
The sun sets over the horizon
The seasons
Why certain constellations are only seen from specific hemispheres
Retrograde travel of planets in the sky
Equatorial mounts for telescopes
Why Mars is closer to the earth at times then farther away
Visible man made objects orbiting the earth that were not there in the sky 100 years ago
Satellite TV
You can actually sail around the world
Airplane flight paths in the Southern Hemisphere
Eratosthenes of Cyrene measures circumstance of the earth around 249 BC
Earth's Curvature and Battleship Gunnery
Phases of Venus
Third party verification of Sputnik
Third party verification of moon missions
Third party / amateur verification of satellites in the hundreds. If not thousands
Star parallax
Earth based photos of the International Space Station.
Map projection
Great Circle paths
Long bridges and tunnels need to take in account the earth is curved.
Geodetic Survey.
Bouguer anomaly/survey


óóOnly takes one item being true to demonstrate the reality of a spherical earth and destroy flat earth.  And they are all trueó-


Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2023, 01:58:10 AM »

But you know, if you never do it? You're no better than a cultist.



You?  From the person that made post after post falsely claiming radio waves are sound?  Ever use a  radio or a walkie-talkie?

 So.  Did you finally buy a telescope with an equatorial mount and use it to view objects in the solar system? Iíve been using one.  I canít find your delusional moon projector?

Did you finally go to an open house for an observatory with a telescope and look through it?  And ask questions by talking to a real astronomer instead of trusting YouTube?


Have you sat in your backyard at night to question and observe satellites.  Lights, objects, and their movements in the sky not there 100 years ago. The night sky has greatly changed just in my lifetime.  No satellite constellations when I was young.  Skylab came and went. Now there is the ISS to observe. 

Every study the different map projections.  And travel from the northern hemisphere to the Southern Hemisphere?

Did you book your trip to Antarctica? 

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2023, 02:00:44 AM »
There are several types of globalists, and the rationale for each needs to be examined separately.
You missed the most obvious type, the rational, intelligent ones which understand the abundant evidence that shows beyond any sane doubt that Earth is round.

You also missed the other obvious type, the pathetic ones trying to be smart, thinking because of how stupid the idea of FE is, any moron could refute it, only to find out they fail at that.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2023, 02:04:26 AM »
Global Earth believers are the arguing majority of accepted stories told and sold and their proof of those stories are based on pictures and CGI along with the narratives and nothing more than that.

Yes, zero globe earthers have ever made observations, measured stuff, done experiments, engineered highly complex machines reliant on spherical earth and gravity and other sheeple notions. Yep, you sure got us there, as nothing works and no one or anything can seem to get anywhere because all of our spherical earth mumbo-jumbo is wrong.

You can't name me one legitimate engineered effort that you can back up to prove a rotating globe.

A map.

They match:




This does not match:

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2023, 02:09:50 AM »
You're mixing up evidence with mountains of stories.
There's no real concrete evidence of any rotating globe and you know this.
No, that would be you.
You are dismissing evidence that shows you are wrong as stories, because you can't accept the fact that Earth is round.
There are mountains of evidence that Earth is round, including plenty of evidence you can obtain yourself, but you choose not to because you know it will show you are wrong.
This includes evidence you can easily obtain yourself.
Evidence like observations of the horizon.
Evidence like observations of the moon.

You can't name me one legitimate engineered effort that you can back up to prove a rotating globe.
You mean we can't name one you would accept as legitimate, as everything that shows Earth is a globe you will reject purely on the basis of not matching your fantasy.

But there are plenty.
Things like GPS which rely upon a globe, or the maps used to navigate the world, or software used to predict the position of celestial objects, or things like LIGO, or the countless satellites in space taking photos of the round Earth.

Conversely, what do you have to support Earth being flat? The BS excuse that "it looks flat".

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2023, 02:53:59 AM »

There are various types of flatties, lets run through a few types.

First are trolls, I donít know why but triggering people gives them a kick, probably the only stimulation that they get from other human beings, I suspect they have too close a tie to their mothers and masturbation is a sin, so the pressure builds, here they get at least a modicum of release, think Norman Bates with a computer, but ugly.

Second and probably the majority are just idiots, the world is full of them, and they just pick a side and clutter up arguments on all things, they are the lint in your filters the hair in your drains, they block the wind from your sails, litter beaches and drive too slowly, some are flatties some are right but in a dumb and tedious manner.

The other main group are the narcissists, not the classical, staring at their reflection in a river kind necessarily, mostly preening self-taught demi intellectuals, who either canít get the adoration they feel they deserve from conventional disciplines, usually because in their haste they missed the basics, so like spurned lovers they cast former sweethearts as demons.
Or/and, the precocious child who finally allowed out into the world of the hoi polloi finds he isnít the hub of everyoneís world, the star in their skies, in fact the people, the world, the universe in general  pays them little heed and this is unacceptable, so the planet itself, its laws and foundations must be rebuilt by them, to serve as recompense for the injustice and to assuage the fear that they just donít matter.   
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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2023, 09:21:09 AM »

There are various types of flatties, lets run through a few types.

First are trolls, I donít know why but triggering people gives them a kick, probably the only stimulation that they get from other human beings, I suspect they have too close a tie to their mothers and masturbation is a sin, so the pressure builds, here they get at least a modicum of release, think Norman Bates with a computer, but ugly.

Second and probably the majority are just idiots, the world is full of them, and they just pick a side and clutter up arguments on all things, they are the lint in your filters the hair in your drains, they block the wind from your sails, litter beaches and drive too slowly, some are flatties some are right but in a dumb and tedious manner.

The other main group are the narcissists, not the classical, staring at their reflection in a river kind necessarily, mostly preening self-taught demi intellectuals, who either canít get the adoration they feel they deserve from conventional disciplines, usually because in their haste they missed the basics, so like spurned lovers they cast former sweethearts as demons.
Or/and, the precocious child who finally allowed out into the world of the hoi polloi finds he isnít the hub of everyoneís world, the star in their skies, in fact the people, the world, the universe in general  pays them little heed and this is unacceptable, so the planet itself, its laws and foundations must be rebuilt by them, to serve as recompense for the injustice and to assuage the fear that they just donít matter.

I think you are forgetting the most dangerous group. Grifters that have long realized that FE is absolutely ridiculous but continue spouting their stuff because they are earning money and/or getting validation for it. I firmly believe e.g. Mark Sargent belongs to this group.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2023, 12:04:52 PM »
Little did Bulmabriefs know, Christianity is basically a large cult.
You claim to be christian and therfore, are no better than a cultist.

Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2023, 01:56:16 PM »




How does the fact the moon is a physical object that reflects sun light, can be surveyed by radar and mapped, and influences tides make people into cult members? 
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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2023, 09:34:03 PM »
There are several types of globalists, and the rationale for each needs to be examined separately.

The first type and the most common type are robot accounts. They work under an AI that constructs the perception that the world is a sphere. They don't have a choice, they don't think. They were not offered the alternative of believing something different or advocating something different. They are AI's slaves and servants, obligated to do whatever AI commands. There's no point in arguing with them because they always have answers for algorithmic reasons.

The second type is jinn. Most of them are hostile to humans and defend everything that is against humans. Since the lie of the globe world is against people, because it is based on lies and deception, they gladly defend this lie. They have a choice, they have free will, but they don't change, they simply don't.

The third type, physical slaves, are those who run the entire world. They are chosen, protected, empowered and misled by the enemies of humanity. Their numbers are few and they are by no means convinced. Only if their orders change, then they change. Almost all of the current top managers are in this group.

The last group are idiots. It consists of people with low intelligence level. They are the mass we call "sheep". They are easily manipulated and believe what they see on TV or social media. It is easy them to be deceived, and it is also easy to be persuaded again. They may change their minds, but it is not so easy as they have been manipulated for years.

Wise, I'd rather lose an argument to you, than lose you to an argument.

So, instead of arguing, I'm going to suggest one more group of globalists for you to include on your list.

Astronauts - those that have seen the Earth from a great distance away.

Would you like me to name them all?

Mark Sargent has already publicly declared that if he went up in a rocket ship and observed Earth's curvature with his own eyes, he would denounce Flat Earth immediately. Pray that he never gets an invite, Wise.

In the meantime, Wise, I'll give you and Sceptimaniac a cheerful little thought to brighten up your day.

Most globalists when watching a sunset, unwittingly watch the sun moving down at the stationary horizon, until it disappears. This is actually the flat earther way of interpreting and enjoying a sunset. (This is the way Jack Black enjoys watching sunsets  :D)

The proper way of a true globalist to watch and enjoy a sunset is to root him or herself to the Earth itself, be conscious of the sphere of the Earth itself, and instead witness the sun as perfectly stationary. Shift your awareness that we and the Earth is what is moving. Observe the entire Western horizon moving up, gradually blocking out the sun, and yourself as ever so slightly, moving back, as on the world sized ball rotating gently backwards.

Wise, if you dare to try this at home, put a mattress on the ground behind you, so you don't hurt yourself if you lose your balance and fall backwards.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2023, 03:09:27 PM »
Might as well wonder why people are so insistent that  jumping off a 30 story building onto concrete is probably going to kill you.

I mean, that's just Hollywood propaganda right? Everyone falling out a window and dying in movies and TV is just special effects and stunt people, it's all lies. Why would anyone think that dying from a long fall could kill you, right?

There is nothing at all strange or unusual about people simply acknowledging an obvious truth. The unusual part is denying it.

Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2023, 07:02:48 PM »
Does indoctrination extend to yacht races as well, bulmabriefs?

Maybe you can explain to me the Antarctica Cup yacht race that happens every year, as contestants race around Antarctica? How long is the Antarctic shoreline on your stupid flat earth model, compared to the actual kilometres the Antarctca coastline actually is?  Have you flat earthers even thought of that?

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2023, 08:40:57 PM »
My guess is bumble's response is approx. 25,000 miles and the Antartica race is fake, part of the NWO masonic lizard people world wide conspiracy to hide the true shape of the earth for reasons.

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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2023, 04:18:37 AM »
There are several types of globalists, and the rationale for each needs to be examined separately.

The first type and the most common type are robot accounts. They work under an AI that constructs the perception that the world is a sphere. They don't have a choice, they don't think. They were not offered the alternative of believing something different or advocating something different. They are AI's slaves and servants, obligated to do whatever AI commands. There's no point in arguing with them because they always have answers for algorithmic reasons.

The second type is jinn. Most of them are hostile to humans and defend everything that is against humans. Since the lie of the globe world is against people, because it is based on lies and deception, they gladly defend this lie. They have a choice, they have free will, but they don't change, they simply don't.

The third type, physical slaves, are those who run the entire world. They are chosen, protected, empowered and misled by the enemies of humanity. Their numbers are few and they are by no means convinced. Only if their orders change, then they change. Almost all of the current top managers are in this group.

The last group are idiots. It consists of people with low intelligence level. They are the mass we call "sheep". They are easily manipulated and believe what they see on TV or social media. It is easy them to be deceived, and it is also easy to be persuaded again. They may change their minds, but it is not so easy as they have been manipulated for years.

Wise, I'd rather lose an argument to you, than lose you to an argument.

So, instead of arguing, I'm going to suggest one more group of globalists for you to include on your list.

Astronauts - those that have seen the Earth from a great distance away.

Would you like me to name them all?

Mark Sargent has already publicly declared that if he went up in a rocket ship and observed Earth's curvature with his own eyes, he would denounce Flat Earth immediately. Pray that he never gets an invite, Wise.

In the meantime, Wise, I'll give you and Sceptimaniac a cheerful little thought to brighten up your day.

Most globalists when watching a sunset, unwittingly watch the sun moving down at the stationary horizon, until it disappears. This is actually the flat earther way of interpreting and enjoying a sunset. (This is the way Jack Black enjoys watching sunsets  :D)

The proper way of a true globalist to watch and enjoy a sunset is to root him or herself to the Earth itself, be conscious of the sphere of the Earth itself, and instead witness the sun as perfectly stationary. Shift your awareness that we and the Earth is what is moving. Observe the entire Western horizon moving up, gradually blocking out the sun, and yourself as ever so slightly, moving back, as on the world sized ball rotating gently backwards.

Wise, if you dare to try this at home, put a mattress on the ground behind you, so you don't hurt yourself if you lose your balance and fall backwards.
Frankly, I thought most of the global powers that advocated globalism were doing it out of bad faith most times. But a friend of mine who worked for NASA in the past said that he really believed the earth was a sphere during his years at NASA. As such, they never give people the opportunity to see the whole. Maybe Buzz Aldrin or Armstrong, who thought he was going to the moon, believed they were doing it for US domination of the world or some other sacred purpose. Maybe the people making chemtrails today really believe it's good for human health. That's why I no longer look at globalists from a single point of view. I consider all of them separately. Jackblak can't see the sunset. For him, the sun is nothing more than a program of 1s and 0s. He has never seen and will never see the sun, and I don't care, I already blocked him in the process when I decided to block the robots.

If the sun were not a hologram, we could do a lot of experiments with it. But its software does not allow this.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1

Come on bro, just admit that the the earth isn't a sphere, you won't even be wrong

Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2023, 06:01:18 AM »
Wise, do you want to try something wild?

Do you want to explore the power of belief and break the fourth wall?

You buy into the idea that everything is a simulation and the result of a program. From this belief, you could send the programmer an instruction for some message or picture to be sent to me in the real world. If I buy into your simulation belief, then theoretically, I could do the same.

The fact you and i have never communicated outside this forum and really know nothing for sure about each other's actual lives outside this forum, is perfect.

An experiment could be devised.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2023, 08:48:39 AM »
There are several types of globalists, and the rationale for each needs to be examined separately.

The first type and the most common type are robot accounts. They work under an AI that constructs the perception that the world is a sphere. They don't have a choice, they don't think. They were not offered the alternative of believing something different or advocating something different. They are AI's slaves and servants, obligated to do whatever AI commands. There's no point in arguing with them because they always have answers for algorithmic reasons.

The second type is jinn. Most of them are hostile to humans and defend everything that is against humans. Since the lie of the globe world is against people, because it is based on lies and deception, they gladly defend this lie. They have a choice, they have free will, but they don't change, they simply don't.

The third type, physical slaves, are those who run the entire world. They are chosen, protected, empowered and misled by the enemies of humanity. Their numbers are few and they are by no means convinced. Only if their orders change, then they change. Almost all of the current top managers are in this group.

The last group are idiots. It consists of people with low intelligence level. They are the mass we call "sheep". They are easily manipulated and believe what they see on TV or social media. It is easy them to be deceived, and it is also easy to be persuaded again. They may change their minds, but it is not so easy as they have been manipulated for years.

Wise, I'd rather lose an argument to you, than lose you to an argument.

So, instead of arguing, I'm going to suggest one more group of globalists for you to include on your list.

Astronauts - those that have seen the Earth from a great distance away.

Would you like me to name them all?

Mark Sargent has already publicly declared that if he went up in a rocket ship and observed Earth's curvature with his own eyes, he would denounce Flat Earth immediately. Pray that he never gets an invite, Wise.

In the meantime, Wise, I'll give you and Sceptimaniac a cheerful little thought to brighten up your day.

Most globalists when watching a sunset, unwittingly watch the sun moving down at the stationary horizon, until it disappears. This is actually the flat earther way of interpreting and enjoying a sunset. (This is the way Jack Black enjoys watching sunsets  :D)

The proper way of a true globalist to watch and enjoy a sunset is to root him or herself to the Earth itself, be conscious of the sphere of the Earth itself, and instead witness the sun as perfectly stationary. Shift your awareness that we and the Earth is what is moving. Observe the entire Western horizon moving up, gradually blocking out the sun, and yourself as ever so slightly, moving back, as on the world sized ball rotating gently backwards.

Wise, if you dare to try this at home, put a mattress on the ground behind you, so you don't hurt yourself if you lose your balance and fall backwards.
Frankly, I thought most of the global powers that advocated globalism were doing it out of bad faith most times. But a friend of mine who worked for NASA in the past said that he really believed the earth was a sphere during his years at NASA. As such, they never give people the opportunity to see the whole. Maybe Buzz Aldrin or Armstrong, who thought he was going to the moon, believed they were doing it for US domination of the world or some other sacred purpose. Maybe the people making chemtrails today really believe it's good for human health. That's why I no longer look at globalists from a single point of view. I consider all of them separately. Jackblak can't see the sunset. For him, the sun is nothing more than a program of 1s and 0s. He has never seen and will never see the sun, and I don't care, I already blocked him in the process when I decided to block the robots.

If the sun were not a hologram, we could do a lot of experiments with it. But its software does not allow this.
Wise, would you mind connecting me to that friend of yours who worked at NASA and is now a flat earther? I would really like to talk to them. I am happy to send you a contact E-Mail via PM or something, let me know what works for you.
I strongly doubt that you can become a flat earther after having worked for a space agency, so I am very curious.

If what you are saying is not completely made up...

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Jura-Glenlivet II

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2023, 08:58:12 AM »

Donít do it Wise, they are coming for your sources, didnít Kami say he rode a pale horse?
Life is meaningless and everything dies.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2023, 10:46:26 AM »
Donít do it Wise, they are coming for your sources, didnít Kami say he rode a pale horse?
I do not want to discuss my bedroom activities here.

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Re: Why Round Earthers Are So Insistent
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2023, 01:41:15 PM »
Frankly, I thought most of the global powers that advocated globalism were doing it out of bad faith most times. But a friend of mine who worked for NASA in the past said that he really believed the earth was a sphere during his years at NASA. As such, they never give people the opportunity to see the whole. Maybe Buzz Aldrin or Armstrong, who thought he was going to the moon, believed they were doing it for US domination of the world or some other sacred purpose. Maybe the people making chemtrails today really believe it's good for human health. That's why I no longer look at globalists from a single point of view. I consider all of them separately. Jackblak can't see the sunset. For him, the sun is nothing more than a program of 1s and 0s. He has never seen and will never see the sun, and I don't care, I already blocked him in the process when I decided to block the robots.

If the sun were not a hologram, we could do a lot of experiments with it. But its software does not allow this.
Have you considered the more rational possibility?
That you are wrong, they are doing it good faith, because they accept the truth that Earth is round, as that is what all the evidence (which can determine the shape of Earth) points to?

And conversely, that people like you are arguing in bad faith, making up whatever BS you need to pretend you are right?
I have seen the sunset, and that is just one strong piece of evidence in favour of a RE.
FEers still can't explain sunsets.

Just what experiments do you think you could do with a ball of plasma larger than Earth?