The earth is round prove me wrong

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Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« Reply #120 on: April 22, 2023, 12:50:24 PM »
It looks flat. On a clear and cloudless day you might be able to stand at a point and see something from over 5 miles away.
On a round earth, this would be impossible because of the curvature but on a flat earth this makes sense.

Its odd you talk about distances. You couldnt see me if I was stood a mile away from you. So why do you and yours keep up the argument that if the earth was flat you would be able to see the Eiffel Tower from Florida? You need to get real. How far can you see unaided? Be honest. Try it. Do you really think you could see a pebble on a beach in Sydney all the way from Brazil? Go on admit it. So why do you relentlessly harp on about not seeing things?

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Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« Reply #121 on: April 29, 2023, 06:28:43 AM »
It looks flat. On a clear and cloudless day you might be able to stand at a point and see something from over 5 miles away.
On a round earth, this would be impossible because of the curvature but on a flat earth this makes sense.

Its odd you talk about distances. You couldnt see me if I was stood a mile away from you. So why do you and yours keep up the argument that if the earth was flat you would be able to see the Eiffel Tower from Florida? You need to get real. How far can you see unaided? Be honest. Try it. Do you really think you could see a pebble on a beach in Sydney all the way from Brazil? Go on admit it. So why do you relentlessly harp on about not seeing things?

At least 93M miles.

And if you think the sun is only 3k/5k miles away, than I would say I can see atleast 3-5k miles unaided.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2023, 06:32:54 AM by NotSoSkeptical »
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That would put you in the same category as pedophile perverts like John Davis, NSS, robots like Stash, Shifter, and victimized kids like Alexey.

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Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« Reply #122 on: April 29, 2023, 12:16:44 PM »
Felix Baumgartner skydived from the stratosphere sponsered by red bull (not a space agency) and photos of the event show curvature of the planet, also no i can't prove it but who can? you! you go by a air plane and fly up and look at it yourself. i sure as heck can't but whats stopping you guys from crowd funding the money to by a sky dive trip.
The wide majority of flights go nowhere near the height that would show curvature even given the ridiculous notion that the earth is round.

If you are going to reference Red Bull or Tesla commercials as evidence for the shape of the earth, I'm not sure you recognize what reliable sources are.

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flatv8

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Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« Reply #123 on: May 02, 2023, 02:51:49 AM »
water does not stick to any globe and all controlled legal references state 6 feet change every 2 miles
however cognitive dissonance also is responsible for drones believing Bill Gates is a doctor.

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Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« Reply #124 on: May 02, 2023, 03:07:39 AM »
water does not stick to any globe and all controlled legal references state 6 feet change every 2 miles
however cognitive dissonance also is responsible for drones believing Bill Gates is a doctor.
It certainly seems to stick to Earth, which is a globe.

I have never seen any reference give 6 archaic units every 2 archaic units.
Did you mean every 3?
Regardless, just what are you trying to prove with that.

And yes, cognitive dissonance does cause lots of people to believe all sorts of crap, look at how many believe Earth is flat and reject things that show it isn't because of it?

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Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« Reply #125 on: June 19, 2023, 09:14:59 AM »
My essay PHILOSOPHICAL VISIBLE INFINITY, proves that the visible surface of the Earth is infinitely flat, and the visible Universe is not expanding and has never expanded, can be read at https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx...

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Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« Reply #126 on: June 19, 2023, 09:20:34 AM »
My essay PHILOSOPHICAL VISIBLE INFINITY, proves that the visible surface of the Earth is infinitely flat, and the visible Universe is not expanding and has never expanded, can be read at https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx...
Hey, you forgot to link to the actual paper. That's just the container website. Here, I got you.
https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=124886

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Magicalus

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Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« Reply #127 on: June 19, 2023, 09:53:40 AM »
Looking at your paper's intro, you make a lot of incorrect assertions. The human mouth can only make a finite number of sounds, and so only a finite number of arrangements can exist. Additionally, the English language doesn't have infinite words. It COULD have many more than it does, but it's definitely not infinite. An infinite number of stars would absolutely wash out the sky; why wouldn't it? It's as if you have a sphere of stars around the earth, and more layers of stars behind it. The paper is full of stuff like this.
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...an infinite number of finite visible numbers have been humanly created, and that each one of these humanly created visible finite numbers could contain an infinite number of visible finite fractions and decimals.
Yeah. That's literally the first definition of Infinity in the Britannica definition you cite. You can place an infinite number of numbers on a number line. Decimals and fractions are numbers, and thus included in that definition.

But then I hit parts like this, and I just can't figure out what you mean.
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...infinite number of visible lawyers have so far been able to publish an infinite number of visible Federal, state, and local law books.
What does this even mean? There is a finite number of books printed. There is a finite number of lawyers registered or that have been registered. This quote doesn't make any sense.

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...there are no visible fixed points anywhere in a visible infinity.
This is just false. Get a graphing calculator program, and zoom out. Move left, move right. You'll never hit the edge. And yet, each point in that infinite grid is defined and fixed. (180028, 171) will always be at that same location.

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...according to the physicists, matter and empty space emerged simultaneously from out of the big bang explosion (Linde et al., 1994) that supposedly occurred 13.75 light years ago from today, give or take a billion or so light years either way: why could the first man and woman not have emerged simultaneously?
Because the big bang was a massive explosion of protons and neutrons and molecules and atoms. They wouldn't have emerged simultaneously because why would they? Why would the mess of protons and neutrons magically align to bring a human into existence? Even if they did, they'd immediately choke and die, or they'd instantly vaporize due to the pressure and heat.

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But they completely overlooked the fact that there was no empty space anywhere in the infinite visible Universe.
There is absolutely empty space in the universe. When you attach a vacuum pump to a closed cylinder and turn it on, what happens inside? The space empties. It is empty. In outer space, the space is more empty than on Earth. even if it's not truly empty, there's nothing between the molecules. Well, there IS something between them. Dark matter. So in a way you're right, but right after this you say dark matter doesn't exist. So what, then, is between the atoms and molecules?

I just skipped over the section about the Earth's infinite rotations which are infinitely unique due the infinite time they take. I cannot parse that section for the life of me. Infinity does not mean uncertainty, which I THINK is what you use it to mean. If that's the case, then I guess everything here is technically correct, but doesn't exactly equate to a flat earth. The bit about circular eyeballs is an interesting one, because it means that you're basing all of this off of... what? Speculation? You don't really have any proof for your claims other than what is obvious (to you, anyways.)


I think my thoughts on this paper can best be summed up by reading this line:
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If the earth were totally flat, it would be invisible and incapable of sustaining any visible form of life.
Like, what does this mean? A perfectly flat object wouldn't be invisible, it would be a mirror. And why does being flat make something incapable of supporting life? Everything before this is a paragraph about how visible things are visible?

Some of this is just accurate. The bit about how there's no way to precisely measure time is true; time is always approximate.

The conclusion just states "Everything is visible and unique. The universe is infinite, and also everyone is in their own." Which again, kind of, but not really, makes sense. What's the point here? What is your actual claim here?


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Re: The earth is round prove me wrong
« Reply #128 on: December 12, 2024, 10:10:02 AM »
It looks flat. On a clear and cloudless day you might be able to stand at a point and see something from over 5 miles away.
On a round earth, this would be impossible because of the curvature but on a flat earth this makes sense.

The earth is very big. Here is a challenge: open a graphing calculator software, plot a circle, then plot a line tangent to it. Zoom in until the two are indistinguishable. Is the circle flat?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvX0F9rVEAI_V4V.jpg this makes sense on a sphere.