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gttxc

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« on: February 05, 2007, 02:51:08 PM »
In your FAQ section it was stated that the "flat earth" is expierencing a constant acceleration of 9.8m/s^2.  While in different places around the world(depending on elevation and latitude) the acceleration of gravity differs.  This being because of the different radius's of the earth.  So shouldnt there be a uniform force of gravity all around the world?
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2007, 03:16:12 PM »
Yeah, I'd like to hear their bullcrap answer to this as well.
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il0vepez

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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2007, 04:11:58 PM »
This question has been posed before.  Alas, there was no answer.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2007, 04:28:39 PM »
Gravity still exists to some extent in all FE models. It's just not the primary force that keeps your feet on the ground.
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BOGWarrior89

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2007, 04:28:51 PM »
No; the moon and sun have a slight gravitational pull.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 05:12:34 PM »
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No; the moon and sun have a slight gravitational pull.


I could be wrong but i believe i have read here that the sun just shines on different parts on the earth at a time, like a spot light.   this would account for lesser gravity, ie 9.79m/s^2 but it would not account for 9.81m/s^2

and please try to acaully show some proof of your reasoning with mass of the moon and their radi rather then just stating somthing you believe is true
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2007, 05:24:21 PM »
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 this would account for lesser gravity, ie 9.79m/s^2 but it would not account for 9.81m/s^2

Of course it wouldn't. What's your point?
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gttxc

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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 05:26:59 PM »
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 this would account for lesser gravity, ie 9.79m/s^2 but it would not account for 9.81m/s^2

Of course it wouldn't. What's your point?


so your saying that some parts of the earth are accelerating through space at a different rate?
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GeoGuy

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2007, 05:27:48 PM »
No.
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gttxc

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2007, 05:31:42 PM »
would you like to elaborate or just conttinue the sub par responses that i have viewed from the FE'ers in past few hours
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2007, 05:34:05 PM »
wait... if the sun and stars have gravity, shouldn't we be pulled toward them?
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GeoGuy

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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2007, 05:35:17 PM »
What sort of elaboration do you want? You asked me if portions of the FE accelerate through space by themselves, and I answered no. Since you didn't tell me why you were asking me this I felt no explanation was necessary.
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GeoGuy

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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2007, 05:35:55 PM »
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wait... if the sun and stars have gravity, shouldn't we be pulled toward them?

Yes. That's why 'gravity" varies with altitude.
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gttxc

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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2007, 05:47:07 PM »
theres stars all around us with their gravitatoinal forces balancing out, not to mention the effect of stars gravitational pull is there would be no difference.  And earlier i was reffering to the fact that the sun would reduce the gravitational pull on us if it has a graviational force there fore lowering it for example 9.8 -.1=9.79.  but for example my school(bcit) we have a gravitation pull of 9.81.  Does the sun push back som times?  unless you were to say that the earth was acaully accelerating at lets say 9.85m/s^2 and because of the way the sun moved the accelereation felt could range from 9.75 to 9.85 and the average is 9.8.  And the average is what is used for convienence reason.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2007, 05:49:05 PM »
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No; the moon and sun have a slight gravitational pull.


Does that mean when it is noon where I live, the sun is pulling on that area and apparent gravity is less? And that at sunset (not nighttime, but sunset), apparent gravity is more?

Gee, gravity always seemed pretty constant here to me.
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BOGWarrior89

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2007, 05:50:12 PM »
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theres stars all around us with their gravitatoinal forces balancing out, not to mention the effect of stars gravitational pull is there would be no difference.  And earlier i was reffering to the fact that the sun would reduce the gravitational pull on us if it has a graviational force there fore lowering it for example 9.8 -.1=9.79.  but for example my school(bcit) we have a gravitation pull of 9.81.  Does the sun push back som times?  unless you were to say that the earth was acaully accelerating at lets say 9.85m/s^2 and because of the way the sun moved the accelereation felt could range from 9.75 to 9.85 and the average is 9.8.  And the average is what is used for convienence reason.


THINK about what you're saying; if the Earth is accelerating UP (towards the sun), and the sun has a slight gravitational pull, in which direction would the magnitude of the sun's gravitational force on the Earth be?  Down?  How does that make sense?
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2007, 05:51:13 PM »
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No; the moon and sun have a slight gravitational pull.


Does that mean when it is noon where I live, the sun is pulling on that area and apparent gravity is less? And that at sunset (not nighttime, but sunset), apparent gravity is more?

Gee, gravity always seemed pretty constant here to me.


No.  Think about what you just said.
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2007, 05:53:01 PM »
I'm thinking and not seeing anything wrong with the logic  :?  :(
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GeoGuy

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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2007, 05:54:52 PM »
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theres stars all around us with their gravitatoinal forces balancing out, not to mention the effect of stars gravitational pull is there would be no difference.  And earlier i was reffering to the fact that the sun would reduce the gravitational pull on us if it has a graviational force there fore lowering it for example 9.8 -.1=9.79.  but for example my school(bcit) we have a gravitation pull of 9.81.

gttxc, didn't it ever occur to you that we're approximating the "pull" of "gravity" by rounding it off to 9.8? Just like you were rounding it off to 9.81?
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2007, 05:55:24 PM »
he'll probably back some bullshit like "its a very minute change"
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2007, 05:58:07 PM »
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I'm thinking and not seeing anything wrong with the logic  :?  :(


If the sun is directly overhead, and has a slight gravitational pull on the earth (the effects on you are negligible, for the Earth is bigger and is accelerating into you), is your measured gravity going to be more or less?  What if the sun is away?

At least make sure your argument is correct before you use it.
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2007, 05:58:16 PM »
omg.  your getting the pushed from the ground correcct? the force you are feeling is you being pushed.  if you were being pulled toward the sun there would be less force being felt from the earth because you being PULLED by the sun.  if somone is pushing you on a skateboard and then smone begins to pull you aswell do you not feel less force on your back?
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2007, 05:59:27 PM »
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omg.  your getting the pushed from the ground correcct? the force you are feeling is you being pushed.  if you were being pulled toward the sun there would be less force being felt from the earth because you being PULLED by the sun.  if somone is pushing you on a skateboard and then smone begins to pull you aswell do you not feel less force on your back?


The Earth is being pulled by the sun too, or did you forget?
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2007, 06:04:24 PM »
if the sun moved around us like a spot light wouldnt the gravitational pull cause theis cylinder so spin and flip out of control? and if the sun was accelereating at the same rate as the earth and also pulling on the earth then wouldnt the earth colide with the sun?

and waht you said did not answer my original question at all.
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2007, 06:09:07 PM »
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if the sun moved around us like a spot light wouldnt the gravitational pull cause theis cylinder so spin and flip out of control? and if the sun was accelereating at the same rate as the earth and also pulling on the earth then wouldnt the earth colide with the sun?

and waht you said did not answer my original question at all.


Yes it did; F_g = GMm/rē

The mass of the sun times the mass of the Earth is much greater than the mass of the sun times the mass of you (M*m_e >> M*m_u), so the gravitational force of the sun on you is negligible.
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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2007, 06:12:40 PM »
but why do things point down?
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2007, 06:17:58 PM »
Like what things?  Arrows?
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Zulroth

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2007, 06:20:02 PM »
hold your arm horizontal. relax your muscles. hold a pen between your fingers, and slowly reduce the pressure and you'll find the pen points down.
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« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2007, 06:23:15 PM »
What if you hold the pen at its center of mass?
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Zulroth

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« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2007, 06:25:26 PM »
in FE, we're accelerating, right? so shouldn't the pen stay the way it should when we relax our grip?
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