Train tragedy in Greece

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Pezevenk

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Train tragedy in Greece
« on: March 03, 2023, 02:48:28 AM »
2 days ago two trains collided in Greece. Officially there is more than 50 people dead, and about as many more missing. There's probably going to be more than 100 deaths: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64820085

These days have been terrible. My partner is panicking because she used that line a lot, and her friend is looking for her friend who is missing. Many if not most of the people in the wreck were students because they commuted from one city to another to go to their universities, and a lot had gone down to Patra for the carnival so they were returning.

The infuriating thing is that it was completely and easily preventable. The government is trying to pin the blame on the station master for forgetting to press a button or whatever. The media is playing the same game for the most part. But that is just ridiculous.

The state owned company in charge of the railways was privatized after the crisis and sold for less than 43 million euros, and since then the state has granted the Italian company in charge hundreds of millions to keep operating some less profitable train routes. It was basically theft. The new private company also bought some shit trains that Switzerland had abolished because they were too unreliable and dangerous and advertised them here as ultra modern and amazing. These were not the trains involved here (although they have broken down multiple times), but it just goes to show the degree of abandonment and cynicism. Even more importantly, the fucking signage just plain isn't working, neither are any of the automated systems that are supposed to be in charge of routing the trains etc, and nobody is bothering to fix them, so it's all basically down to one dude pressing buttons, and if that dude forgets to press one button or if it breaks or whatever apparently the trains collide, because the drivers can't tell if another train is on the same line due to signage not working. Furthermore, the personnel is now far less than legally required, less than half the European average per kilometer of line, and not even close to what it was before the crisis and privatization.

The railway worker unions had attempted to strike many times and had given warnings many times, including about 20 days ago when they said there would be more accidents if nothing is done. But they were ignored and their strikes are being deemed illegal according to a new law.  Even the strike they are doing right now, after the accident, is being deemed illegal, despite the fact they have literally every reason to be doing that. After all many of their coworkers just died doing what they will have to be doing every day.

Greece has the deadliest railways in the EU:
https://www.balcanicaucaso.org/eng/Areas/Greece/Warning-No-Signal-199483

The privatization of the lines was a joke, and the new owners are practically mocking us:
https://www.investigate-europe.eu/en/2022/etr470-train-switzerland-greece-italy-trainose

This is criminal but the people in fault will not be prosecuted, only the mostly irrelevant immediately "responsible" people (if they're even really responsible and the system didn't just malfunction which is very likely) who should never have been put in the position to have so many lives depending on their simple easy to make errors in the first place. It's highly unlikely that anyone more responsible will be touched since, get this, the Supreme Court Prosecutor who has been put in charge to investigate the disaster has a son who recently got hired in the Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure. It's just all bad.
« Last Edit: March 03, 2023, 02:55:49 AM by Pezevenk »
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Re: Train tragedy in Greece
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2023, 04:21:36 AM »

Unfortunately, when your country got into financial difficulties it was pounced on by the three furies the World Bank, the IMF and the WTO.

Here’s some aid money, now give us your infrastructure, gut your workers rights, hand over your resources, oh and you will never be able to pay the interest, enjoy.
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Re: Train tragedy in Greece
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2023, 04:40:53 AM »
Hope you and your lovely ones are fine.
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Re: Train tragedy in Greece
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2023, 06:02:03 AM »
I'm sorry you're going through such a scary thing. I hope all your friends are okay.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Train tragedy in Greece
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2023, 06:39:57 AM »
That's the really sad part, that girl looking for her friend isn't going to find her, barring a miracle. The front cars were destroyed completely and caught on fire... If they haven't found people yet then I don't think they're still alive... And it's just really sad to see people looking for them and posting pictures etc. It's just a really bad time these few days... Oof.

As far as I know I didn't personally know any of the people in the crash which is something. But some of my friends did, because it involved so many students... It's just infuriating how negligent the railway company was.
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Re: Train tragedy in Greece
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2023, 08:18:46 AM »

Unfortunately, when your country got into financial difficulties it was pounced on by the three furies the World Bank, the IMF and the WTO.

Here’s some aid money, now give us your infrastructure, gut your workers rights, hand over your resources, oh and you will never be able to pay the interest, enjoy.

Yeah, and the damage was so bad it doesn't look like the Greek society will ever fully recover... Every year now is worse not better. At this point there is never any money left for most people under 40 after covering necessities and infrastructure is just constantly declining, this new accident being the latest trend indicator... The population is among the most aging in the world and no one wants to have children in a situation like that.
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