The demise of Tucker Carlson and Fox

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Tucker Carlson last week ripped big pharma spending hundreds of millions of dollars on TV ads and news outlets routinely parroting drug industry talking points. Is there a single example of a CNN, MSNBC or other Fox News host ever discussing TV advertising corruption?

Maybe this is the reason he was fired. The pharmaceutical industry is a huge source of revenue for tv shows.

Quote from: Themightykabool on April 25, 2023, 07:37:05 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on April 25, 2023, 07:34:05 AM

I think a lot of people see the pundits as speakers of truth, on the right and the left. Opinion and news have blended to the point it is difficult to pick them apart.

except he's an admitted liar...

So he's honest about being a liar! lol They should all admit when they're lying.

honest only to the judge
he tells his viewers he's the only one they should trust, and then he lies to them.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on April 25, 2023, 11:29:04 AM

Quote from: Themightykabool on April 25, 2023, 07:37:05 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on April 25, 2023, 07:34:05 AM

I think a lot of people see the pundits as speakers of truth, on the right and the left. Opinion and news have blended to the point it is difficult to pick them apart.

except he's an admitted liar...

So he's honest about being a liar! lol They should all admit when they're lying.

Only in his internal messages which the court had access to and released.  I don’t think he’s publicly admitted to lying?

I wonder if that was part of the settlement? Either apologize on his show for spreading complete bullshit or get the boot.

It was not.

Most likely they booted him as a scapegoat.
"See?  We got rid of the problem.  No need for OTHERS to sue us..." kinda thing.

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Tucker Carlson last week ripped big pharma spending hundreds of millions of dollars on TV ads and news outlets routinely parroting drug industry talking points. Is there a single example of a CNN, MSNBC or other Fox News host ever discussing TV advertising corruption?

Maybe this is the reason he was fired. The pharmaceutical industry is a huge source of revenue for tv shows.

Surely he doesn't have that much power as a host to what they cover

Scapegoat?


They did fire those other disposable hosts.


But as a traded co, they have to offset 787M$ somehow.

Did tuckers staff also get the boot?
Hairkari?
47ronin?


When does hanity get the boot

The stories I've read say during the discovery process a bunch of very nasty texts about upper management came up and that was the main reason.

Seems odd for businessmen such as the Murdochs to make a decision about of emotion though.  I would've guess that it has more to do with the costs of settling his scandals out of court and the damage he's doing to Fox's reputation are greater than the money he brings in.

Tucker frequently went on ubrupt 'vacations' due to shitbhe would say

Tucker got stomped by Murdoch because he thought he was king of the hill (more the garbage pile), and was untouchable, who ever replaces him won't have that illusion and will stick to plausibly deniable falsehoods rather than flat out lies.

Has anyone seen him since or is he having trouble getting rid of the boot mark on his face?

He might not be at liberty to say much right now.  There's a whole legal angle to this, non-compete etc. 

Fun fact.  He shares the same lawyer as Don Lime.

I fear that what comes next will be even worse.  Bill O'Reilly was bad but he was a statesman compared to Carlson.  They'll probably pull some youtube nazi like Richard Spencer.

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Tucker Carlson last week ripped big pharma spending hundreds of millions of dollars on TV ads and news outlets routinely parroting drug industry talking points. Is there a single example of a CNN, MSNBC or other Fox News host ever discussing TV advertising corruption?

Maybe this is the reason he was fired. The pharmaceutical industry is a huge source of revenue for tv shows.

I feel like Big Pharma was a relatively popular entity to attack by Carlson.  I know it was during the height of the pandemic.  As long as he didn't attack the dick pills, he was safe.

He might not be at liberty to say much right now.  There's a whole legal angle to this, non-compete etc. 

Fun fact.  He shares the same lawyer as Don Lime.

I fear that what comes next will be even worse.  Bill O'Reilly was bad but he was a statesman compared to Carlson.  They'll probably pull some youtube nazi like Richard Spencer.

Fun fact, the forum still censors yellow citric fruit.   Try Lemon.   

I am well aware of big tech's attempt to censor me for my pro-Crutonian views.

oh
i thought it was purposefully for Jane's Sle-mon
i was wondering why LEEmon was getting changed
haha

The citrus fruit censoring happened even before I joined the FES. Probably had to do with a certain website that was having a party.

side note

i think google is monitoring me because youtube "coincidentally" sent me this this morning

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8DRLWG-jD0g

Tucker got stomped by Murdoch because he thought he was king of the hill (more the garbage pile), and was untouchable, who ever replaces him won't have that illusion and will stick to plausibly deniable falsehoods rather than flat out lies.

Has anyone seen him since or is he having trouble getting rid of the boot mark on his face?

Nah, he was fired because his lies were exposed in those text messages. Fox isn't unhappy with what he said, just unhappy he got exposed.

He will be replaced with someone who will say the exact same things, take bribes from the exact same people and be fired when those lies are exposed.

And the next, and the next.  Everything at Fox is working as intended.  Viewers will flock to whoever takes his place, they just want someone to tell them it's ok to be racist and hate gays and that all their problems are someone elses fault. Probably a gay minority.

What will be interesting is what Tucker does next.  Will he take his millions and retire to a cushy life, or will his ego demand he take revenge on his former employer and feed his need to have people pay attention to him?

The breaches were contributory, but not everyone who was party to those texts were sacked.

In anybody’s books, Carlson was becoming a liability, yes he’d got his devotees as we’ve seen here, but as a percentage of the population it’s not that big, he gets shared probably more than anyone else, but as the figures showed when Alex Jones was poleaxed, a lot of people were just as liable to be saying “Look at this twat!” than agreeing.

Murdoch had the embarrassment of losing nearly ¾ of a billion dollars in one payment with more pending as the lawsuits roll out, him trashing “The face of Fox” without a eulogy befitting his apparent status, underlines who owns, runs and is the real face of Fox.

think google is monitoring me

No shit, Sherlock!

Aahaha i know

Side note


Lpoks like the firing could be due to hostile qork place law suit
With a side of bad mputhing the boss.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1651376097349578753?s=20

Good evening

He posted a video, but he didn't say anything about being fired.

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Good evening

He posted a video, but he didn't say anything about being fired.

He's pretending "big pharma" got him fired and not him being caught lying and saying how much he hates Trump and being a liability now.  But his fans won't care, they are hooked on the hate he peddles and how comforting it is to hear someone tell them it's ok to be a racist.  I'm sure he will do just fine on whatever right wing Russian state sponsored media hellhole he settles into next.

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Good evening

He posted a video, but he didn't say anything about being fired.

He didn't mention where these places of Truth were either. 
Also, funny how he says The Truth empowers while lies make you shink and thats an iron law of the universe.

Like "dude.  Did you not just get off a show where you were empowered for lying?"

Also, wtf is he on about no corporate media being able to talk about corporate power?  That has been a huge focus of a lot of media outlets, just not Fox.  He said a lot without saying anything really.

Apparently this is the text that raised some red flags for Fox News.

Tucker Carlson January 7, 2021 — 04:18:04 PM UTC
A couple of weeks ago, I was watching video of people fighting on the street in Washington. A group of Trump guys surrounded an Antifa kid and started pounding the living shit out of him. It was three against one, at least. Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously. It’s not how white men fight. Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they’d hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it. Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid, and would be crushed if he was killed. If I don’t care about those things, if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is?

I'm not sure to feel about this.  On the one hand this sounds like the preface of a school shooter manifesto.  On the other hand admitting he has a problem is the first step towards therapy.

Apparently this is the text that raised some red flags for Fox News.

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Tucker Carlson January 7, 2021 — 04:18:04 PM UTC
A couple of weeks ago, I was watching video of people fighting on the street in Washington. A group of Trump guys surrounded an Antifa kid and started pounding the living shit out of him. It was three against one, at least. Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable obviously. It’s not how white men fight. Yet suddenly I found myself rooting for the mob against the man, hoping they’d hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it. Then somewhere deep in my brain, an alarm went off: this isn’t good for me. I’m becoming something I don’t want to be. The Antifa creep is a human being. Much as I despise what he says and does, much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him, I shouldn’t gloat over his suffering. I should be bothered by it. I should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid, and would be crushed if he was killed. If I don’t care about those things, if I reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is?

I'm not sure to feel about this.  On the one hand this sounds like the preface of a school shooter manifesto.  On the other hand admitting he has a problem is the first step towards therapy.

Nearly 2 and a half years ago.  Did he get professional help?  Did he realise he was the last person who should be in a position of having such influence on the opinions of so many people and step down?  Did he share this revelation about his own hate with viewers and start promoting understanding?  Or did he just carry on anyway?

This is a massive red flag for the most popular pundit on TV.  A brief moment of self reflection that apparently did nothing to change his behavior isn't good enough.

It's all weird speculation. Media Matters keeps posting stuff that's supposed to make people hate Tucker more, but so far it's all been pretty tame.

I saw a few of the things that Media Matters released.  If they're trying to slime Tucker they're doing a terrible job.  The videos I've seen made him seen almost normal and likeable.

This text about taking great pleasure in seeing a bunch of white people nearly beating to death whatever an "Antifa creep" is though.  That probably doesn't help his image.

It's all weird speculation. Media Matters keeps posting stuff that's supposed to make people hate Tucker more, but so far it's all been pretty tame.

Agreed

Well, I don't know how anyone can not take a little pleasure in watching an antifa creep get his ass kicked. The feminazis refer to them as the black pampers. They like to show up to women's speaking events and scream.