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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #270 on: April 07, 2023, 10:36:59 PM »
When you start to believe in souls, matters become a little more difficult.

So much for believing in souls leads to peace...

2010s In comparison to the 2000s, there was a sharp decline in the proportion of terrorist attacks carried out by left-wing, environmentalist extremists during the first seven years of the 2010s (from 64% to 12%). At the same time, there was a sharp increase in the proportion of attacks carried out by right-wing extremists (from 6% to 35%) and religious extremists (from 9% to 53%) in the United States. 

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In the United States, violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eleven people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, a police officer, two people (unclear of their connection), and a clinic escort.[I 16][I 17] Seven murders occurred in the 1990s.[I 18]

Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping
According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, 13 wounded,[I 30] 100 butyric acid stink bomb attacks, 373 physical invasions, 41 bombings, 655 anthrax threats,[I 31] and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[I 32] Between 1977 and 1990, 77 death threats were made, with 250 made between 1991 and 1999.[I 30] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[I 16][I 5][I 6] in 1985 45% of clinics reported bomb threats, decreasing to 15% in 2000. One fifth of clinics in 2000 experienced some form of extreme activity.[I 33]

Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping
According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, 13 wounded,[I 30] 100 butyric acid stink bomb attacks, 373 physical invasions, 41 bombings, 655 anthrax threats,[I 31] and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[I 32] Between 1977 and 1990, 77 death threats were made, with 250 made between 1991 and 1999.[I 30] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[I 16][I 5][I 6] in 1985 45% of clinics reported bomb threats, decreasing to 15% in 2000. One fifth of clinics in 2000 experienced some form of extreme activity.[I 33]


But at least we now know 2 things:
- You think God controls Solstices, Equinoxes, & Moon Phases
- You'd let an 8 year old kid die a painful death if s/he needed medical treatment for his/her Type II Diabetes but was afraid needles

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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #271 on: April 08, 2023, 12:26:05 AM »
You see, contrary to the lies that Muslims tell you about the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition, the truth is that the overarching theme of the conversion of the Western world to modern religions has been a transition towards peace, while the more traditional religions (paganism, secular materialism, and materialist legalism) kept government in a state of constant violence and self-destruction.
Pure BS.
Secular materialism is not a religion.
And the conversion of the western world to be less religious has been a transition towards peace.

Secular Materialism is now called Atheism.
No, it isn't.
Atheism is a broad category encompassing everything that doesn't believe in a god.

Let me explain what we mean by constant violence. Every year, about 900,000 children die from abortion
They aren't children.
And that is vastly better than forcing women to be slaves, unable to control their own body.

You are trying to go backwards, and make humans into slaves.
That is not promoting peace.

Each year, a percent of those (it's small but possibly underreported) result in the deaths of their mothers.
And how many child births do?


The legalism that is Islam sends young men to war and to suicide bomb themselves. It also causes massive abuse and violence against women.
As do other religions, including Christianity. Nazi Germany was Christian.
What you are suggesting, turning into slaves with no control over their body is abuse and violence against women.

You see, materialism causes us to think of this world as real. It in turn causes you to think that you can end problems by killing them.
As opposed to religion which teaches you that this world is worthless, and that death is inconsequential.
Want to fight a war and send thousands to their deaths? Who cares, they will live on in the afterlife.

An afterlife makes life worthless and death inconsequential.
You had an accident that severely impaired you? That's okay, just die and you can get all that function back in the afterlife.
What's that? You got an easily preventable disease because you and others didn't bother taking precautions? Don't worry, if you die you will live on in the afterlife.
You are going to have a baby, even though you can't afford it, and it will undoubtable suffer in this world? Don't worry, just kill it before it is born (or even shortly after), send it straight to heaven where it can be safe and happy and you can live on knowing that you saved your baby.

In fact, extremely secular governments (such as China, USSR, North Korea) often led to state authority to kill people and take their rights. By contrast, the more spiritual a country is, the more they are unlikely they are to lend power to systems to oppress them. This for two reasons. (1) The leadership themselves sees problems as they cannot kill or deatroy to solve, (2) the citizens in turn do not worship their leaders.
Pure BS.
As shown above, when you believe in an afterlife, death is meaningless. So you can happily send countless people to their deaths.
If you add an allegedly omnibenevolent god judging people after, it is even easier.
If you kill someone and they were good, they go to heaven and are better off. If you kill someone and they were guilty, they go to hell "where they belong".

But more importantly, religion is all about oppressing people, demanding they follow a ridiculous set of rules and tormenting those who don't obey.
Instead of merely being an infidel that you don't like and can kill to solve your problem, they are an attack on something holy where it is your duty to kill them and send them to hell where they belong.

But even in practice, the more spiritual a country is, the more likely it is to be violent and the more likely it is to oppress and harm others.
Even in the western world, we see the US as a stark contrast to the rest, due to it being far more religious and far more violent.

So you see, religion and secularism are not at the same scale in terms of government. The founders wrote of a city on a hill (a term borrowed straight from religious texts), and talked of In God We Trust, or how we have rights given by their Creaor.
Sure, "rights", like the right to own a slave and treat it as you please as it is your property.
We have moved on from then, and don't need an evil POS to give us rights.

Moden secularists rewrite US history to be about slavery. Or maybe, seizing power over others is what occupies their thoughts. By contrast, rwligious countries arw not ony nonviolent but also free.
So why don't you go live in countries like Saudi Arabia, or ISIS, and so on.
Make sure you make it known you are a cross dresser.
See how long you think it is free and non-violent.

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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #272 on: April 08, 2023, 05:10:55 AM »
When you start to believe in souls, matters become a little more difficult.

(A change in reporting to exempt reporting of left-wing. We already know of the "mostly peaceful" bias. When Antifa and BLM burned cars and buildings, they focused instead on Jan 6, which had only about one real death that wasn't an accident)

But at least we now know 2 things:
- You think God controls Solstices, Equinoxes, & Moon Phases
- You'd let an 8 year old kid die a painful death if s/he needed medical treatment for his/her Type II Diabetes but was afraid needles

A loving God allows mercy and choices.

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The righteous care for the needs of their animals, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel.
Proverbs 12:10.

When someone in from of you begs you, "Let me die. I don't want to live another 20 years with this condition," and you tell them, " Medical science can help you. You're being a baby, " you're being a bully and a sadist.

As the other, what you think you do? You think you control the sun and moon?

Or you think somehow they can perpetuate themselves?



Not one perpetual energy engine works indefinitely. It requires energy to be supplied to the system. To do so millennia would need a perpetual energy battery or a deity.  As we know. So even if you were to somehow account for the universe not created, you'd also have to account for it being maintained. And not overheating.

You'd have to insert God both as a mover to the device and a maintenance guy.
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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #273 on: April 08, 2023, 05:37:33 AM »
A loving God allows mercy and choices.
And the god of the Bible, and any god that would exist with this universe, is not a loving god. So who cares?

As the other, what you think you do? You think you control the sun and moon?
No sentient entity controls them.
They are "controlled" by the laws of nature.

Not one perpetual energy engine works indefinitely. It requires energy to be supplied to the system.
You mean like the energy from the nuclear fusion in the sun?
Give it a few 10s of billions of years.

Also note that Earth's rate of rotation is slowing down as it transfers energy to the moon.

You'd have to insert God both as a mover to the device and a maintenance guy.
No, we wouldn't. All inserting your evil POS would do is add a needless layer of complexity. You would then need a mover and maintainer of your evil POS.

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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #274 on: April 08, 2023, 08:53:04 AM »
When you start to believe in souls, matters become a little more difficult.

(A change in reporting to exempt reporting of left-wing. We already know of the "mostly peaceful" bias. When Antifa and BLM burned cars and buildings, they focused instead on Jan 6, which had only about one real death that wasn't an accident)

But at least we now know 2 things:
- You think God controls Solstices, Equinoxes, & Moon Phases
- You'd let an 8 year old kid die a painful death if s/he needed medical treatment for his/her Type II Diabetes but was afraid needles

A loving God allows mercy and choices.

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The righteous care for the needs of their animals, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel.
Proverbs 12:10.

No where in that passage does it mention anything about "choices".

When someone in from of you begs you, "Let me die. I don't want to live another 20 years with this condition," and you tell them, " Medical science can help you. You're being a baby, " you're being a bully and a sadist.

To an 8 year old who could be easily treated even without daily jabs? That makes you the sadist and murderer.
 
As the other, what you think you do? You think you control the sun and moon?

Or you think somehow they can perpetuate themselves?

Who said anything about perpetual? You just straw-manned the shit out of your argument. Energy is expended by everything in the world and cosmos. Some things just last longer than others. In 10 billion years, the sun wil be no more. Just like how everything else expends all its energy and dies. Think things through before you make up crap like perpetual motion and stuff.

And no god is required for things to die.

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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #275 on: April 08, 2023, 03:11:32 PM »
A loving God allows mercy and choices.
And the god of the Bible, and any god that would exist with this universe, is not a loving god. So who cares?

Obviously he is. Someone like you wouldn't live to adulthood otherwise. You die eventually because all things in this world end. Not because God is "mean." Get over it.

As the other, what you think you do? You think you control the sun and moon?
No sentient entity controls them.
They are "controlled" by the laws of nature.

I already explained that the laws of nature would run out of energy without a source or driver to do the work.  Imagine this. The sun is about to rise when entropy sets in. I guess you won't have crops... ever again?

Not one perpetual energy engine works indefinitely. It requires energy to be supplied to the system.
You mean like the energy from the nuclear fusion in the sun?
Give it a few 10s of billions of years.

I wouldn't even give it this long. We humans have tried to make nuclear fusion reactions. Don't they collapse pretty much immediately? What tends to happen is the matter fuses and that's it. No more fusion. It becomes a new compound and the fusion ends. That it has lasted this long is beyond what a simple fusion reaction could do.

Also note that Earth's rate of rotation is slowing down as it transfers energy to the moon.

You'd have to insert God both as a mover to the device and a maintenance guy.
No, we wouldn't. All inserting your evil POS would do is add a needless layer of complexity. You would then need a mover and maintainer of your evil POS.

I see. So we need to simplify it, let's create make an equation that doesn't actually work, and trick people into thinking it works with huge numbers, decimal points, and sidereal days. That's less complex.

You worship a god too. Your god is named Science. But Science is an actual POS. Science kills people with guns and bombs and abortion.  People living in a world devoid of such things live in harmony with the heavens.

Until they die of poor hygiene, of course.

Some of you worship another god instead, known as State. As for this god...


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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #276 on: April 08, 2023, 04:10:31 PM »
Obviously he is.
If you bother reading the Bible, HONESTLY, you would see they are quite obviously not.
The god of the bible is a childish evil tyrant.

As for the world, all the needless suffering demonstrates beyond any sane doubt that there is not a god that gives a damn about us.

I don't need your evil POS to have lived to adulthood.

I already explained that the laws of nature would run out of energy without a source or driver to do the work. Imagine this. The sun is about to rise when entropy sets in. I guess you won't have crops... ever again?[/color]
And what you have failed to do is demonstrate that this is not the case.
Entropy doesn't just magically set it and bring it all to an instant stop.

The "rising" and "setting" of the sun is due to Earth's rotation.
That isn't just going to stop instantly.
It will slow down over an incredibly long period of time.
The light from the sun is due to nuclear fusion in the sun's core.
That wont instantly stop either. It will need to burn through its fuel, taking an incredibly long time.

I wouldn't even give it this long.
Of course you wouldn't, because you want your fantasy to be true.
You don't care about reality other than to reject it.

If you want to claim it wouldn't last that long, then DO THE MATH!
Calculate just how long it should last, with all the math and supporting numbers being justified.
If you can't, then you are just yet again making up numbers because you don't like reality.

We humans have tried to make nuclear fusion reactions. Don't they collapse pretty much immediately?
We also used an incredibly small amount of material to fuel it, and needed high energy lasers to confine it.
Compare that to the sun which has a lot more material, more than the entire Earth; and has gravity holding it together.

I see. So we need to simplify it, let's create make an equation that doesn't actually work, and trick people into thinking it works with huge numbers, decimal points, and sidereal days. That's less complex.
That in no way helps make your incredibly complex and evil god exist.
It again just shows how much you hate reality.

What equation are you referring to this time?
Are you referring to gravity, an equation based upon empirical observations of reality?
Or other similar equations based upon reality that you dismiss because it doesn't support your fantasy?
No one made up sidereal days. They are a direct consequence of Earth rotating while orbitting.
This is not a difficult concept to understand, yet you intentionally misrepresent it to pretend reality is wrong. It is also supported by observations as well.

You worship a god too. Your god is named Science. But Science is an actual POS. Science kills people with guns and bombs and abortion.  People living in a world devoid of such things live in harmony with the heavens.
No, I don't.
Science is not a god.
It does not demand obedience.
It does not tell you what to do.
Science is a method that allows people to understand how the world works.

What people choose to do with that knowledge is on them.

That is quite different to a god demanding genocide, a god demanding people are put to death just for being gay or not worshiping the correct magic sky fairy.

Your god is an evil piece of shit that no decent human being would ever follow except due to extreme indoctrination, stupidity, ignorance or cowardice.

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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #277 on: April 08, 2023, 04:11:17 PM »
Obviously he is. Someone like you wouldn't live to adulthood otherwise. You die eventually because all things in this world end. Not because God is "mean." Get over it.

God murdered and estimated 750 million people, men, women, children, even babies, by drowning them because he fucked up creating humanity the first time around and his ego was crushed. Decided to reboot to give it a second go - Humanity 2.0. Then he felt out of touch with humans so he rammed his kid into an unsuspecting woman's womb, basically god-raped her, all the while setting up to have even him murdered 33 years later. Nice guy, that god of yours.

I wouldn't even give it this long. We humans have tried to make nuclear fusion reactions. Don't they collapse pretty much immediately? What tends to happen is the matter fuses and that's it. No more fusion. It becomes a new compound and the fusion ends. That it has lasted this long is beyond what a simple fusion reaction could do.

We're getting there, probably 50+ years away of making fusion useful...

With historic explosion, a long sought fusion breakthrough
National Ignition Facility achieves net energy “gain” with laser-powered approach
More energy out than in. For 7 decades, fusion scientists have chased this elusive goal, known as energy gain. At 1 a.m. on 5 December, researchers at the National Ignition Facility (NIF) in California finally did it, focusing 2.05 megajoules of laser light onto a tiny capsule of fusion fuel and sparking an explosion that produced 3.15 MJ of energy—the equivalent of about three sticks of dynamite.

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« Reply #278 on: April 08, 2023, 08:54:50 PM »
Obviously he is. Someone like you wouldn't live to adulthood otherwise. You die eventually because all things in this world end. Not because God is "mean." Get over it.

God murdered and estimated 750 million people, men, women, children, even babies, by drowning them because he fucked up creating humanity the first time around and his ego was crushed. Decided to reboot to give it a second go - Humanity 2.0. Then he felt out of touch with humans so he rammed his kid into an unsuspecting woman's womb, basically god-raped her, all the while setting up to have even him murdered 33 years later. Nice guy, that god of yours.

"Those weren't ppl."

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It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth—when divine beings cohabited with the human women, who bore them offspring. Such were the heroes of old, the men of renown. (Just prior to the flood)

Isn't that the same rationale that you use when you give the okay for a mom to abort her child simply because he/she has a parent who is a rapist? It's okay to abort because that fetus isn't really a person. These hybrids aren't people, and you are outraged when God says that but when a full-blooded human is young, it's perfectly okay for them to be killed. You hypocrites.

 Actually Mary gave consent.
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“I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.

Mary was okay with Jesus being seen as a bastard. With herself being seen as a whore.  And she was fine with God ramming in whatever organs into her. Sorry but #MeToo doesn't apply here. She agreed to it, and she liked it so much she had another 10 children or so. Had it been rape, I highly doubt she would have consented to stay with Joseph. After all, sex with a cosmic being can get bad fast if it's rape. Think torn apart and having your seed fertilized withoyt you alive to raise it. This didn't happen. Consensual sex, and afterward Mary was basically a nympho, hoping to recapture that feeling.
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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #279 on: April 08, 2023, 09:21:33 PM »
Obviously he is. Someone like you wouldn't live to adulthood otherwise. You die eventually because all things in this world end. Not because God is "mean." Get over it.

God murdered and estimated 750 million people, men, women, children, even babies, by drowning them because he fucked up creating humanity the first time around and his ego was crushed. Decided to reboot to give it a second go - Humanity 2.0. Then he felt out of touch with humans so he rammed his kid into an unsuspecting woman's womb, basically god-raped her, all the while setting up to have even him murdered 33 years later. Nice guy, that god of yours.

"Those weren't ppl."

Umm, yeah, there were ppl still around. "cohabited with the human women". Human woman were still around. Same as human men and human children and human babies, still around. The Nephilim weren't fucking human men, children, and babies and siring non-ppl. And the Nephilim were still kicking around after the murderous flood.

As well, God just went ahead an rammed a baby into Mary's womb totally without her consent. That's some seriously rapy shit. What's up with that?

Luke 1:30 But the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God.
Luke 1:31 You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you are to call him Jesus.

Like she had a choice? Gabriel basically shows up and says, "Oh, by the way, God WILL be planting his seed in you, period."
What's Mary going to say to one of God's Angels who just commanded that this will happen?

"Umm, yeah, well, here's the thing, Gabe...Can I call you that? It just seems like we're having a pretty personal convo, so I'm thinking I can. In any case, I'm a virgin and I don't want to be knocked up by God because you see, you already know the virgin bit, but I have a husband, everyone will know it's not his kid. People will talk. I'm not cool with that. And you know, I'd kinda like to hook up with Joe first, have him take my flower, so to speak...It's kind of a special thing we got going on, married and all. And how emasculated do you think Joe is going to feel? 'God got it on with me first' - How can he even compare?
Can you go tell God that I appreciate the offer, but no, I'm good with Joe. Thanks, but no thanks. A hard pass. I'm sure God will be cool with that...Umm, right Gabe? He'll be down with the that, right? He's not going to get all pissy about my refusal and start drowning everyone again, right? Gabe, talk to me."
Mary, increasingly nervous, "What's his vibe? He's still into the free will thing, right? He's not going to smite me or Joe, right?
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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #280 on: April 08, 2023, 10:50:22 PM »
"Those weren't ppl."
Really? Just dismissing all the deaths by your evil POS as "not people"?

Isn't that the same rationale that you use when you give the okay for a mom to abort her child simply because he/she has a parent who is a rapist?
No, that is the excuse given by conservative scum that think abortion is bad, but still want to allow it in some cases because their conscious nags at them for being such scum.

Decent people recognise abortion is okay because the woman has the right to remove it from her body.
Quite different to the pathetic excuses you are giving.

Actually Mary gave consent.
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“I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May your word to me be fulfilled.” Then the angel left her.
I would hardly call that consent.
More like she just caved in and accepted what the evil tyrant was doing.

I guess you think all slaves that allow their masters to beat them or torture them are consenting?

You really are a horrible person.

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Re: crescent moon question
« Reply #281 on: April 09, 2023, 03:07:18 AM »
Referring my answer here, where it belongs.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=90743.msg2400117#msg2400117

You accuse me of dodging the subject and "running away" from topics, but you are perfectly happy to let me get sidetracked if it means you don't have to answer to the tough questions.

God did build this fishbowl, and reality is fake. It is wonderfully and beautifully fake though.









You would not want a real world. It would mean you have to make the absolute most of your life, because everything is super important. Writers like the guy for The Purpose-Driven Life push that idea. But the world isn't real, and thanks be to God for that.
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« Reply #282 on: April 09, 2023, 03:30:04 AM »


So all I have to do is not realize god and I can stay in reality. Cool, thanks for the tip.

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« Reply #283 on: April 09, 2023, 05:53:55 AM »
You accuse me of dodging the subject and "running away" from topics
Because that is exactly what you do, and you do it repeatedly.
You did it regarding the moon, doing whatever you can to avoid admitting you have absolutely no idea how it would work on a FE, eventually giving up with "goddidit".
But even with your BS regarding you evil POS, you are still happy to deflect. You didn't care to respond to the fact that an afterlife makes this life worthless, and death inconsequential or even beneficial.

You want to pretend that abortion is bad, even though in your delusional world view it would give those babies a direct ticket to heaven.

You would not want a real world. It would mean you have to make the absolute most of your life, because everything is super important. Writers like the guy for The Purpose-Driven Life push that idea. But the world isn't real, and thanks be to God for that.
And thanks for showing yet again you think this life is worthless.

Your god is not real.
It is a delusional fantasy for those to escape from reality, invented by primitive people to control primitive people.

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« Reply #284 on: April 10, 2023, 04:22:48 AM »


So all I have to do is not realize god and I can stay in reality. Cool, thanks for the tip.

Yes, but that's boring!
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« Reply #285 on: April 10, 2023, 05:58:29 AM »
You accuse me of dodging the subject and "running away" from topics
Because that is exactly what you do, and you do it repeatedly.

And thanks for showing yet again you think this life is worthless.

Your god is not real.
It is a delusional fantasy for those to escape from reality, invented by primitive people to control primitive people.

Actually I lose the subject because I have Attention Deficit Disorder, and have tendency to go on tangents.

You let it stay lost. So the person who succeeded in leaving topic? You.
 I've noticed you guys. When a topic gets uncomfortable, you bring up something I've said (often even from another topic) as a dodge. In the same way as a politician starts a war with Ukraine in order to distract from another scandal, you don't want to answer questions that you know you have no answer to. So I get distracted. Then you get to blame it on me. Yes, I am an easy touch when it comes to responding to new topics. But in many cases, I didn't introduce the topic.

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Until the 17th century, astrology was considered a scholarly tradition, and it helped drive the development of astronomy. It was commonly accepted in political and cultural circles, and some of its concepts were used in other traditional studies, such as alchemy, meteorology and medicine. By the end of the 17th century, emerging scientific concepts in astronomy, such as heliocentrism, undermined the theoretical basis of astrology, which subsequently lost its academic standing and became regarded as a pseudoscience.

Important reading before you try to correct me on terms.

As late as the 17th century, astrology was considered science. Speaking of which, as late as the early 20th century there were ads for things like tapeworms as weight loss suggestions. And before that, humours and bleeding.

Religion and history was my forte in college, and I actually know the root of most scientific disciplines. They didn't arrive (as you seem to imagine) from scholarly and logical disciplines. They came from very illogical fields in most cases. Alchemy became chemistry, cloudreading became meteorology, astrology breame astronomy. Psychology came from shamanism and cold readings. You do not know what you are talking about.

As for "cosmology", this is a discipline of myth not science. Cosmologists are not scientists, they are storytellers who have traded a religious narrative for a secular one. But there is no such thing as proving a cosmology. Ancient Egypt has a cosmology where the universe hatched from an egg. Shinto cosmology has a man and a woman swirling a spear in the water.

Cosmology is a discipline stolen from religion.

I said this.

You talked about myth, using the wrong definition.
I said the correct definition, you quoted dictionary (sorry, dictionaries use definition order based on common usage; this means when most people give a wrong definition, that becomes the most common definition).

Someone mentioned a fishbowl universe. I said, "Yeah so? It is a fishbowl created by God." You could have left it at that, and gone back to topic. If you were actually serious about defending the topic that astronomers aren't a bunch of quacks (and the subject of the nature of the moon was long gone). But yourself know they are, and thus you allowed the tangent to move even further.

You talk about nuclear weapons killing woman and child, I talk about how the damage from abortion is a more real assault on women and children. Stash dredges up another article, and I literally have to move a post, as we've derailed the entire topic to one that better belong in another thread.

Who is running away from topic? Not me. I'm just going with the flow of tangents that already exist.

So no, "astronomers" (astrologers) are quacks, God is real and in fact is the only solution to your own models of cosmology (without which, it would be like a well-designed roller coaster with nobody to turn it on or pull the various levers),


Protip: Things have to be built and they don't start themselves.

the moon is part of a set stage, and I will answer any questions you have but the one who allow topics to remain off track (and sometimes drives them off track) is you guys.
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If ρ=m/V, then B=ρsurfobj


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« Reply #286 on: April 10, 2023, 10:35:35 AM »
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the moon is part of a set stage, and I will answer any questions you have






Pictures from my own telescopes.  Now, where is the single light source casting from in relationship to my position for each picture.

Where is the door to the set.

What is beyond your set delusion. 

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« Reply #287 on: April 10, 2023, 10:59:34 AM »


So all I have to do is not realize god and I can stay in reality. Cool, thanks for the tip.

Yes, but that's boring!

Not in the least. Pretty exciting, really. Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming. I choose freedom of reality. Not the jail that is illusion.

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« Reply #288 on: April 10, 2023, 11:08:30 AM »
I've noticed you guys. When a topic gets uncomfortable, you bring up something I've said (often even from another topic) as a dodge.

Not at all as a dodge. When you say something in one thread that is relatable to another and completely contradicts yourself, it's worthy of mention. Like in one thread you say that you only accept first-hand experience as evidence for something then over in another thread you try and present third-hand evidence to support your belief.

That's not a dodge - That's simply pointing out your inconsistencies and hypocrisy.

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« Reply #289 on: April 10, 2023, 11:13:22 AM »

 Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.

Like taxes? Or countries have the “right” to war.  Pretty crappy for a poor person in the Ukraine at this time wanting peace. 

 

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« Reply #290 on: April 10, 2023, 11:32:14 AM »

 Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.

Like taxes? Or countries have the “right” to war.  Pretty crappy for a poor person in the Ukraine at this time wanting peace.

I don't know what you mean.

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« Reply #291 on: April 10, 2023, 11:44:36 AM »

 Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.

Like taxes? Or countries have the “right” to war.  Pretty crappy for a poor person in the Ukraine at this time wanting peace.

I don't know what you mean.

Government can forcibly tax individuals who might not be supportive of professional spots while parts of sports organizations like the NFL are tax exempt.  And NFL teams have use blackmail / threats of leaving against cities to raise tax funds to build them stadiums.  While the NFL isn’t subject to anti-trust laws….

Seems pretty dogmatic that progress and conservative cities use laws to pass taxes and breaks to the NFL who’s total revenue was 18 billion in 2022.




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« Reply #292 on: April 10, 2023, 11:58:37 AM »

 Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.

Like taxes? Or countries have the “right” to war.  Pretty crappy for a poor person in the Ukraine at this time wanting peace.

I don't know what you mean.

Or….

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News from Gareth Bacon MP (past staff): Mayor keeps ‘Olympics tax’ after Games debt is wiped

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/gareth-bacon/mayor-keeps-olympics-tax-after-games-debt-wiped

One person’s sport is another person’s dogma….

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« Reply #293 on: April 10, 2023, 12:03:42 PM »

 Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.

Like taxes? Or countries have the “right” to war.  Pretty crappy for a poor person in the Ukraine at this time wanting peace.

I don't know what you mean.

Or….

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News from Gareth Bacon MP (past staff): Mayor keeps ‘Olympics tax’ after Games debt is wiped

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/gareth-bacon/mayor-keeps-olympics-tax-after-games-debt-wiped

One person’s sport is another person’s dogma….

I still don't understand your point. What does an "olympic tax" have to do with anything?

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« Reply #294 on: April 10, 2023, 12:20:03 PM »

 Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.

Like taxes? Or countries have the “right” to war.  Pretty crappy for a poor person in the Ukraine at this time wanting peace.

I don't know what you mean.

Or….

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News from Gareth Bacon MP (past staff): Mayor keeps ‘Olympics tax’ after Games debt is wiped

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/gareth-bacon/mayor-keeps-olympics-tax-after-games-debt-wiped

One person’s sport is another person’s dogma….

I still don't understand your point. What does an "olympic tax" have to do with anything?


You posted this, “Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.”

Correct?

Just one example.  Because some people “worship” USA  football, large portions of citizens forced by government to pay taxes to support pro sports making money. 


I don’t have the “freedom” to pass on taxes to support people’s dogma regarding having professional sports teams. 

Every paycheck is “looming” to pay the padded dogma of taxes to support things like building stadiums.

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The Congressional Pig Book is CAGW's annual compilation of the pork-barrel projects in the federal budget. A "pork" project is a line-item in an appropriations bill that designates tax dollars for a specific purpose in circumvention of established budgetary procedures. To qualify as pork, a project must meet one of seven criteria that were developed in 1991 by CAGW and the Congressional Porkbusters Coalition.

https://www.cagw.org/reporting/pig-book




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« Reply #295 on: April 10, 2023, 12:47:20 PM »

 Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.

Like taxes? Or countries have the “right” to war.  Pretty crappy for a poor person in the Ukraine at this time wanting peace.

I don't know what you mean.

We can also debate about being forced to wear a face covering during covid. It didn’t mater if it was just a cut up T-shirt, and had no way of forming a seal.

Even the paper masks were useless.  If it didn’t seal.  If the person wasn’t trained on how to don, wear, remove, and how often to change them out.  Not having a proper waste stream.  Masks weren’t going to do crap.

I “cherish” the times my car was splattered by sludge and cast off from garbage trucks during covid.



 


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« Reply #296 on: April 10, 2023, 12:51:57 PM »
Or the useless covid six foot rule…

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« Reply #297 on: April 10, 2023, 01:24:22 PM »

 Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.

Like taxes? Or countries have the “right” to war.  Pretty crappy for a poor person in the Ukraine at this time wanting peace.

I don't know what you mean.

We can also debate about being forced to wear a face covering during covid. It didn’t mater if it was just a cut up T-shirt, and had no way of forming a seal.

Even the paper masks were useless.  If it didn’t seal.  If the person wasn’t trained on how to don, wear, remove, and how often to change them out.  Not having a proper waste stream.  Masks weren’t going to do crap.

I “cherish” the times my car was splattered by sludge and cast off from garbage trucks during covid.

I still don't understand. What do covid and facemasks have to do with the sole explanation that god manages the moon phases?

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« Reply #298 on: April 10, 2023, 01:31:59 PM »
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I still don't understand. What do covid and facemasks have to do with the sole explanation that god manages the moon phases?
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Quote where I said it did.

I was referencing this exchange.



So all I have to do is not realize god and I can stay in reality. Cool, thanks for the tip.

Yes, but that's boring!

Not in the least. Pretty exciting, really. Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming. I choose freedom of reality. Not the jail that is illusion.


Where does that exchange have anything to do with “ sole explanation that god manages the moon phases”?

Especially in the context l’m targeting “Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.“



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I still don't understand. What do covid and facemasks have to do with the sole explanation that god manages the moon phases?


Quote where I said it did.

I was referencing this exchange.



So all I have to do is not realize god and I can stay in reality. Cool, thanks for the tip.

Yes, but that's boring!

Not in the least. Pretty exciting, really. Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming. I choose freedom of reality. Not the jail that is illusion.


Where does that exchange have anything to do with “ sole explanation that god manages the moon phases”?

Especially in the context l’m targeting “Very freeing not to have a manmade dogma constantly looming.“


As far as the meme. Once you see people have a soul, and there is also a spiritual side to existence, people become more valued.  And the illusion of what is important slips away.  Such a s taxing communities for a billion to build a new stadium for a tax exempt company like the NFL that makes billions and falls outside normal antitrust laws.


Wonder how free people of the Ukraine feel right now? 
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