Cool Mission?

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Re: Cool Mission?
« Reply #570 on: February 17, 2023, 06:02:34 AM »
I hear a drum beat. I get closer, then I start to hear the guitar, flute, or bagpipes.

I always here the bagpipes first before I hear the drums.

You do not.

Not unless you're Scottish. Scottish ppl can nae hear the drums first, for they are always listening to the wee bagpipes in their soul.

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Why don't you concentrate on the speed issue?

I am. I just gave you a good example of a situation where things of different speeds nonetheless intersect. It's not even the only one. When the snail, the cat, the dog, the skateboarder are starting out, they are all of different speeds but we can say that they are also in proximity. It lasts more moments the you think for a snail to move away from a car, as we do not care about perfect alignment but that the snail is within the proximity of the car. If the snail moves past the car (it has trouble starting for example), the snail wins even if the car's total speed is greater.

Proximity effect is why we can hear sounds of different speed as music. They register at the speed of sound, and it takes awhile for them to disperse. Less like a car and snail, and more like a cat and dog.

Cats are sprinters, dogs are endurance runners. Both start out as roughly 30 mph. But wilder breeds of cats can reach up to 70 mph. So that's it, cat wins? You've obviously not read the tortoise and the hare. The dog may be able to only run 30 mph but they can run for longer and can catch up, and possibly pass a wild cat like a cheetah. Especially if that dog is also wild (wolves have impressive endurance).

The same is true of sound waves. Slower frequencies carry for longer. Or in layman's terms, slow and steady wins the race.

I dunno about bagpipes as they do have a kinda drone (I don't happen to live where bagpipes are played), but western music, even when the guitar is loud, the drum still carries better. Different speeds don't necessarily mean that the music breaks apart instantly.

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Re: Cool Mission?
« Reply #571 on: February 17, 2023, 08:33:46 AM »
I hear a drum beat. I get closer, then I start to hear the guitar, flute, or bagpipes.

I always here the bagpipes first before I hear the drums.

You do not.

Yes I do. And I'm not even Scottish. Who are you to tell me what I hear and don't hear?

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Re: Cool Mission?
« Reply #572 on: February 17, 2023, 12:05:26 PM »
I am. I just gave you a good example of a situation where things of different speeds nonetheless intersect.
No you didn't.
You even admitted that the speed is the same.

If your delusional BS was true, we would hear music completely out of sync. Instead we just hear it fade out, with different frequencies being attenuated differently.
Speed doesn't dictate how far it can go.

We never hear sound getting out of sync due to distance, even when we hear things quite a distance away.
This shows your claims are BS.

And sound waves travelling are nothing like a sprinter.

You have nothing at all to support your BS of sound waves travelling at different speeds.
And you have already contradicted yourself by claiming higher frequencies should be clearer at a greater distance.

Re: Cool Mission?
« Reply #573 on: February 17, 2023, 01:35:32 PM »
I hear a drum beat. I get closer, then I start to hear the guitar, flute, or bagpipes.

I always here the bagpipes first before I hear the drums.

You do not.

Not unless you're Scottish. Scottish ppl can nae hear the drums first, for they are always listening to the wee bagpipes in their soul.

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Why don't you concentrate on the speed issue?

I am. I just gave you a good example of a situation where things of different speeds nonetheless intersect. It's not even the only one. When the snail, the cat, the dog, the skateboarder are starting out, they are all of different speeds but we can say that they are also in proximity. It lasts more moments the you think for a snail to move away from a car, as we do not care about perfect alignment but that the snail is within the proximity of the car. If the snail moves past the car (it has trouble starting for example), the snail wins even if the car's total speed is greater.

Proximity effect is why we can hear sounds of different speed as music. They register at the speed of sound, and it takes awhile for them to disperse. Less like a car and snail, and more like a cat and dog.

Cats are sprinters, dogs are endurance runners. Both start out as roughly 30 mph. But wilder breeds of cats can reach up to 70 mph. So that's it, cat wins? You've obviously not read the tortoise and the hare. The dog may be able to only run 30 mph but they can run for longer and can catch up, and possibly pass a wild cat like a cheetah. Especially if that dog is also wild (wolves have impressive endurance).

The same is true of sound waves. Slower frequencies carry for longer. Or in layman's terms, slow and steady wins the race.

I dunno about bagpipes as they do have a kinda drone (I don't happen to live where bagpipes are played), but western music, even when the guitar is loud, the drum still carries better. Different speeds don't necessarily mean that the music breaks apart instantly.

LOW frequencies carry for longer.

There’s no evidence at all to suggest sounds at different frequencies travel at different speeds. Just like there’s no evidence to suggest different parts of the EM spectrum travel at different speeds.

If you are aware of any, please let us know. It’s pretty easy to test, and prove the speed of sound in different media by experimentation, is it not?

We are talking about speed of propagation, not how far each frequency travels.

I’ll ask again, if we don’t know the speed at which radio waves travel, how does radar work?

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Re: Cool Mission?
« Reply #574 on: February 17, 2023, 04:52:56 PM »
I hear a drum beat. I get closer, then I start to hear the guitar, flute, or bagpipes.

I always here the bagpipes first before I hear the drums.

You do not.

Yes I do. And I'm not even Scottish. Who are you to tell me what I hear and don't hear?

Have you gone to Ancestry.com? Maybe you're mostly Scottish.

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Re: Cool Mission?
« Reply #575 on: February 17, 2023, 05:10:46 PM »
I hear a drum beat. I get closer, then I start to hear the guitar, flute, or bagpipes.

I always here the bagpipes first before I hear the drums.

You do not.

Yes I do. And I'm not even Scottish. Who are you to tell me what I hear and don't hear?

Have you gone to Ancestry.com? Maybe you're mostly Scottish.

My Great grandmother was a Fife so there may be some tartan in me. At least a sliver.

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Re: Cool Mission?
« Reply #577 on: February 17, 2023, 09:18:58 PM »