Why does flat earth equate no space travel by man?

I typically get an A or B in most classes.

This video of a shuttle taking off is bogus, and you guys know it.

but when you have to explain yourself to God after you die

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on July 27, 2023, 08:57:59 AM

but when you have to explain yourself to God after you die

But have you considered that maybe you will need to explain yourself to it?
Why are you here continually lying to us?

I typically get an A or B in most classes.

Film class was not an exception. 12 pages of analysis, the only reason he had me redo the analysis was because he had trouble understanding the scene because it was too damned complicated. When I analyze a video, I analyze a video. Btw, this was the clip I analyzed. Though actually it was about 3 minutes before this.



This video of a shuttle taking off is bogus, and you guys know it. I dunno why you are so eager to defend its validity, but when you have to explain yourself to God after you die, I'm sure you can come up with a good excuse. "I was defending the great Masonic secret."

And he tells you, "Who the fuck cares about that?!? You could have stood up for truth, instead you doubled down on defending secrets."

I typically get an A or B in most classes.

Quote from: JackBlack on July 27, 2023, 02:14:51 PM

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on July 27, 2023, 08:57:59 AM

but when you have to explain yourself to God after you die

But have you considered that maybe you will need to explain yourself to it?
Why are you here continually lying to us?

Funny how bulmabriefs144 limits their god to a fishbowl?

It's clear that you are capable of attending class and passing a test, but your postings here show that your ability to retain, understand, and apply that knowledge properly beyond those classes is abysmal.

God isn't limited to a fishbowl.

"It is better to question a 'fact' than be fooled by it."

The Ukrainian Flight that Crashed in Iran WAS shot down by a missile!

https://web.archive.org/web/20200110223518/http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1254115/pg1

Ukrainian 737 down in Iran
https://web.archive.org/web/20200111160807/http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1254025/pg1

God isn't limited to a fishbowl. This "reality" is a fishbowl you've been living in, and it's time to break the glass.

As for you, it is pretty clear that you are actively trying to cover for something that in your heart you do not believe.

because they believed what they were taught instead of understanding that knowledge is only as good as your ability to interpret it.

So, when you look at something that is a composite, and you can tell it is a composite

If you believe that it is NOT plummeting downward towards Earth,

You would prefer that Earth is a ball, speeding through endless space, which may be destroyed at any moment by a huge meteor, or unknown hazards 'out there', right?

I prefer to be safe, and not in a fear they made up for that purpose, to scare us of the great unseen dangers 'out in space', where they will 'protect us from harm', if anyone can, they will save Earth and all life on Earth, for sure!

Again..

Quote from: turbonium2 on July 23, 2023, 02:57:29 AM

If you believe that it is NOT plummeting downward towards Earth,

Hmm.

Is the sun “plummeting” to the earth?



From some commercial online..

You would prefer that Earth is a ball, speeding through endless space, which may be destroyed at any moment by a huge meteor, or unknown hazards 'out there', right?

The rocket isn't like this

it plummets straight downward

at the same distance away from them

remains the same size

If it was in a flight, even at a LEVEL flight, it would look like the Sun does here, getting smaller and lower along the way, in a constant path outward.

Perspective would show that rocket getting smaller and smaller, lower and lower to the surface, at a steady rate, like the Sun does in your clip.

The rocket isn't like this, it plummets straight downward,

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on July 28, 2023, 09:16:04 AM

God isn't limited to a fishbowl.

You’re the one boxing your god into a fishbowl.

Now stop changing the subject.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on July 27, 2023, 08:57:59 AM

Where is the great sky gradient in this picture of a slightly zoomed sky?




Where there is going to be even less sky gradient in an even smaller sample size of sky from the extreme zoom view of a rocket 300,000 pulse miles above the camera.


And still see you’re pushing those stupid wrong debunked videos at the end of your posts.

To answer your question, what proof do I have that this is the sky?

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on July 24, 2023, 03:46:42 PM

If I went out and took a picture, I know the sky has natural gradient.

I’ll save you some trouble.  Do the same test for this video of mine.  It can be a control for your “test”.



Just a real launch of a model rocket with real sky.

Info of the video on my phone.





Info after it was loaded on YouTube
 

To answer your question, what proof do I have that this is the sky?

When you cannot prove the sky actually is the sky, people can call your entire video into question. Or photo in this case.

If the rocket is “plummeting straight down” it’s not traveling farther from the viewer.  It’s not getting father away.  So, how is the rocket staying the same distance from the viewer while “plummeting straight down”, but appearing to get smaller when it’s not getting father away in distance.  If anything the rocket should get slightly larger as it gets closer to the ocean.

The same distance away over the surface, like a plane is 50 miles away, while in the sky, 50 miles above the surface, that's what I'm saying here.

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https://www.weather.gov/fgz/CloudsContrails

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Still doesn’t explain why human machines can’t orbit the earth in the same paths as the sun and moon.  Or be launched to crash into the dome.  Or all the objects humankind as added the night sky visible from earth. 

The same distance away over the surface, like a plane is 50 miles away, while in the sky, 50 miles above the surface, that's what I'm saying here. That's how we refer to how far away planes are from us

But yes, the ACTUAL distance would be closer when it's going downward, and it IS closer, but it's hard to see, because by that point, there's only a small, dim light to be seen of the rocket, so it's hard to even SEE it by then, let alone see it larger than before, obviously.

It's seen as larger just before that

Did this jet(s) crash?

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No, this isn't at all what we see with that rocket, those are normally seen flight paths, which appear lower due to perspective. That's NOT what is happening with that rocket, whatsoever.

Look again at it's path, before it's last seen on the video, below the bridge rail he's next to on the ground. It plummets straight downward, towards the surface.

Notice that it's going faster as it plummets downward, as the camera must be moved quickly downward to follow it? That's because it is in a FREE FALL towards the surface, it starts to gain more speed in it's free fall, straight down through the air.

This is NEVER seen with planes that fly out in the distance, like in your images. They appear to go lower and lower WHILE going further out, and looking smaller and smaller.

Not the rocket, though. Watch how it first appears, flying slightly upward, going across the sky. And then, as it has just passed to the left, it blasts out fuel, and starts going at a DOWNWARD angle, until it has no fuel at all, where we see just a tiny, dim light of it, as it plummets straight downward, to the surface, and GAINS MORE SPEED along the way down, and never goes further and further away from them, at all. This is clearly a free fall plummet going on, and goes lower and lower until out of sight, when the bridge comes into view, at ground level.

No, this isn't at all what we see with that rocket

It plummets straight downward, towards the surface.

Notice that it's going faster as it plummets downward, as the camera must be moved quickly downward to follow it?

This is NEVER seen with planes that fly out in the distance, like in your images. They appear to go lower and lower WHILE going further out, and looking smaller and smaller.

And then, as it has just passed to the left, it blasts out fuel, and starts going at a DOWNWARD angle, until it has no fuel at all, where we see just a tiny, dim light of it

it plummets straight downward

never goes further and further away from them, at all.

This is clearly a free fall plummet going on

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022 on July 28, 2023, 11:05:03 AM

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on July 28, 2023, 09:16:04 AM

God isn't limited to a fishbowl.

You’re the one boxing your god into a fishbowl.

Now stop changing the subject.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on July 27, 2023, 08:57:59 AM

Where is the great sky gradient in this picture of a slightly zoomed sky?




Where there is going to be even less sky gradient in an even smaller sample size of sky from the extreme zoom view of a rocket 300,000 pulse miles above the camera.


And still see you’re pushing those stupid wrong debunked videos at the end of your posts.

To answer your question, what proof do I have that this is the sky?

Zazzle, a purveyor of cheap junk, has a blue poster.



It's a little darker, but again, no gradient.

When you cannot prove the sky actually is the sky, people can call your entire video into question. Or photo in this case.

Because if space travel were possible, you could easily disprove the flat earth. That's why.

Quote from: ItzZanty on July 30, 2023, 05:48:50 PM

Because if space travel were possible, you could easily disprove the flat earth. That's why.

Oh, that's why. Well, thanks for wading into this thread with such a profound insight that hasn't crossed anybody's mind who has posted here. If only the satellite which enables me to post this reply, were possible too, ay brainiac?

Sample Of Satellite Majority Shareholders:

United Technologies, Intel Sat, DirecTV via ATT, Loral Space and Communications, Northrup Grumman, Raytheon, Ball Aerospace and Technology Corp., Lockheed Martin, General Electric

Don’t forget as in Part 1 the same institutional majority shareholders of major Hollywood companies and subsidiaries such as Disney, Comcast, MGM, Time Warner, Dreamworks, Sony Entertaiment are Khazarian owned. Again, go to invest.morningstar.com and look-up these companies. Look for Vanguard Group, Fidelity, BlackRock LLC and State Street Corp. as majority shareholders, and thus Hollywood and The Controlled Major Mass Media become defacto propaganda machines for NASA. With the aquisition of Pixar by Disney in 2006 and Disney as a proven co-conspirator, we already have been subject to Pixar fakery as well.

If there are no satellites than how does GPS, Global Communications and other supposed space-based platforms really work?

LORAN tower station on Sand-Johnston
Island, 1963


APN-4 installed in a Royal Canadian
Air Force Canso (PBY) aircraft

The first is Land-based technologies. Land-based communications have been around along time and are still used today. Loran (long range navigation) was developed during World War Two with a range up to 1,500 miles. Towers like these were positioned to provide relatively seamless coverage for navigation. Towers positioned on islands would provide the necessary contact points for propagation at sea. The signal bounces off the ionosphere and creates a “Sky Wave” which in turn   creates the “Skip Distance” to the next tower. Remember, this technology is about 70 years old and incremental improvements in power, range and efficiency have been made since.
Sky Wave & Skip Distance

Thiis is a simple video on land-based communications and the capabilities of microwave transmission. Global Positioning Systems are based on cel-tower triangulation as Google kindly explains here and this accompanying video explains how it’s done.

(Video unavailable. Hmmmm, almost like it was removed...)

Underwater High-Speed Cables

The next mode of propagating data is through undersea cable. As you can see on the map below, cables connect all the continents with redundancy. There’s an excellent website here that explains how undersea cable is laid and it also lists the advantages of cable versus satellites below.

Why don’t we use satellite communication instead:

1. Satellites aren’t used because they can’t carry terabytes of data for less than a billion dollars per communication line.

2. The bandwidth available using a single fiber optic cable and a laser beam is much much greater than you can get from a single satellite radio channel. This is due to the higher frequency and shorter wavelength of light compared to microwaves. The higher the frequency, the greater the bandwidth.

3. An undersea cable is a bundle many fiber optic cables. Consider each fiber cable as a channel. You can have more channels, each with a higher capacity, than you can build radio channels into a satellite.

4. The uplinks and downlinks cost  and putting the satellite in space is a huge huge ask and far more risky.

5.  The delay for satellite communications would be around 255ms both uplink and downlink. For continuous traffic this not to a bad price to pay. But for burst traffic (like voice) you pay for the delay at each pause. The Rule of Thumb is 10MS per 1000 miles so Rule of Thumb to Europe on say TAT-8 would be about 75MS vs 510MS for satellite.

6. Finally, you can fix a broken cable. Once you launch the satellite you don’t get a chance to fix it if it gets broke.

More Nails In “The Satellites Exist” Coffin

Besides land-based technologies, the real pig-in-the-poke that creates the illusion of Satellite utility are Light-Than-Air-Vehicles (LAV), High Altitude Airships (HAA) and High Altitude Platforms (HAP).

This updated concept of a proven technology takes lighter-than-air vehicles into a realm that gives users capabilities on par with satellites at a fraction of the cost (1 to 2 orders of magnitude less). The HAA will also integrate reconfigurable, multi-mission payload suites. HAA is significantly less costly to deploy and operate than other airborne platforms, and supports critical missions for defense, homeland security, and other civil applications. Its operational persistence eliminates the need for in-theater logistic support. In position, an airship would survey a 600-mile diameter area and millions of cubic miles of airspace.

-Lockheed Martin

Lockheed Martin has built more than 8,000 lighter-than-air platforms which is a pretty significant number for that fact alone. They also have a nifty brochure about LTA’s. Lighter Than Air Brochure

(Also deleted. But I saw it earlier. Someone's covering their tracks. Nevermind, here's a brochure)

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on July 29, 2023, 05:55:29 AM

To answer your question, what proof do I have that this is the sky?

Because it’s the sky.  And all you have left is false accusations of lies.


It’s a zoomed screenshot of this video.