Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #360 on: February 19, 2023, 09:44:54 PM »
I have no idea where you're going with all of this but the first image is of a prenatal deformity referred to as 'Body-stalk anomaly'...100% fatal...Look it up...

Body-stalk anomaly is a severe abdominal wall defect that results from abnormalities in the development of the cephalic, caudal, and lateral embryonic body folds. This maldevelopment results in the absence or shortening of the umbilical cord with the abdominal organs lying outside the abdominal cavity and directly attached to the placenta (Shalev et al., 1995; Smrcek et al., 2003). Body-stalk anomaly was first described by Kermauner in 1906 in a newborn with an abdominal wall defect consisting of an amniotic sac that contained viscera; the anterior wall of the sac was directly attached to the placenta and there was no umbilical cord. Other than the references given in textbooks of pathology, body-stalk anomaly was not appreciated in the general obstetric literature until the report of Lockwood et al. in 1986.

The last image is from a museum in Amsterdam...

The Museum Vrolik is known for being a weird place. It contains a collection once donated by one Gerardus Vrolik. He was both a professor of botany and of anatomy, who lived from 1775-1859.

And has zero relevance to your fabricated and out-and-out lie of a claim, "Meanwhile this happens when the mom gets raped and blames the child. Child parts in a jar."

Try not to be a blatant prevaricator going forward.


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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #361 on: February 19, 2023, 11:09:45 PM »
Yes, I'm gonna make you look at him.
Why me?
You are the one worshipping and idolising a baby killer, not a foetus or zygote, but actual babies and children.

And with how many spontaneous abortions or miscarriages occur, your god clearly doesn't give a damn about the unborn, or born.

Or the firstborn of the Egyptians who...
  • Killed the firstborn of the Jews merely because there were too many of them (making it God taking revenge, not to be cruel).
  • Enslaved their people for centuries.
  • Ground their elderly and injured into the dust building temples and monuments.
  • Refused them any holidays, even a three day march to worship at a mountain (not exactly a pleasure trip)
Just when did the firstborn of the slave at the well do any of that?

Your evil piece of shit had no justifiable reason to do it.
The sole reason it had was to show off.

So don't come here complaining about abortion when the evil piece of shit you worship is willing to murder countless people.

You tell me honestly, which of these is more justified? Rhetorical. #2 obviously.
Only for those that lack any sense of morality, like those who worship an evil tyrant that lacks any sense of morality.
#2 is entirely unjustified.
In that pathetic scenario of yours, YOU are the criminal, YOU are the one who deserves to be punished.
Punishing your children for your crimes is morally bankrupt.
So anyone who does that is NOT justified.

#1 is far more justified. It is removing something from your body which you do not consent to be in there.

Even in your messed up, immoral fantasy, it would still be more justified that #2, as you would "punishing" the child of the rapist.

Your argument makes no sense at all and just shows how abhorrent you are, how severely you lack morals.
And with such lack of morals, it isn't surprising that you happily lie to everyone, repeatedly, including saying things about the RE you know are blatant lies; where you pretend there is a problem with the RE, even though you know that isn't a problem and know why it isn't.

So great job showing how abhorrent you are.

 Because you can give the child up for adoption in case #1. Maybe it's not ideal. Maybe the system is overburdened. But in the case of adoption, this happens...



and if they're lucky and don't age out, this too...



Meanwhile this happens when the mom gets raped and blames the child. Child parts in a jar.



Look at it!!!  >:(
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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #362 on: February 20, 2023, 03:12:44 AM »

your god clearly doesn't give a damn about the unborn, or born.



Shrugs.

Governments around the world don’t seem to either. And have no hesitancy sending the poor as canon fodder into war the makes arms companies rich. 

Bet you still pay your taxes though…

I guess that doesn’t matter as the government’s deficit spend.  What’s your share of debt for your government? 

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #363 on: February 20, 2023, 12:46:43 PM »
Bulma's-shit-stained-briefs,

So, this is what happens to people who join the FE cult.........manically obsess over random photos of dead babies......

Some people with fantasy prone personalities such as yours should steer clear of all conspiracies........this is proof you just can't handle them.

Nobody sane brings photos of dead babies to a debate about FE and gravity.
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For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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« Reply #364 on: February 20, 2023, 07:13:44 PM »
What do you mean by dishonest?


COVID: "Buy these masks." "Also, take these shots here." CDC at one point or another has admitted that neither work, and other people have found they may be dangerous. The vaccines cause health side-effects. So do the masks (respiratory ailments). Vaccines may be free, but it's a racket. You pay and pay for the side-effects.

You have read these things in your anti-vax sites, you-tubes, and blog and twitter posts.  Propaganda sites written by people who believe the same as you, therefore you believe they are all credible.
Yes, there have been cases of people having side effects from COVID.  During the height of the pandemic, the side effect of not being vaccinated was extensive hospitalization and death.  "A sore arm" or "four weeks with a vent tube down my throat - and then I die".  Hmm, what to do, what to do?  For rational people, our choice was easy - follow the science.  For people like you, I imagine the choice was also easy - do the opposite of what science tells you.

CDC has one set of statistics.  "Other People" have alternative facts.  Do you know these "other people"?  Do you know their education, training, and qualifications?  Do you care? No and No and NO.  All you care about is that the CDC is scientific.  That is enough for your indoctrinated brain to immediately disqualify them.  On the other hand, your "other people" are just like you - Jesus-believing Creationists who think prayer will keep them healthy!  Look up Marcus Lamb, Danny Reeves, and Gerald O. Glenn.  All anti-vaxers, all dead and gone.


Moon Landing: If the moon landing is real, then NASA and other groups are vindicated in the funding they gain in order to do new space missions. However, if it is a lie, this is tax money that is embezzled away from the taxpayer.
Pretty much copy-pasted from above...
NASA has one set of statistics.  "Other People" have alternative facts.  Do you know these "other people"?  Do you know their education, training, and qualifications?  Do you care? No and No and NO.  All you care about is that NASA is scientific.  That is enough for your indoctrinated brain to immediately disqualify them.  On the other hand, your "other people" are just like you - Jesus-believing Creationists who think There is a massive conspiracy where tens of thousands of people are out to fool a few hundred gullible Creationists.

A liar has something to gain. Both of these above, there is a benefiting party.
Nobody lies when they have no self-interest. So why am I lying?

I'm waiting!
Lying benefiting parties about COVID?  Easy-Peasy.  Mike Lindel:
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The chief executive of My Pillow, a Trump donor, claims oleandrin is a miracle cure for Covid-19.
Mike conned people into buying very overpriced pillows.  Mike conned a lot of into buying oleandrin.  He made a lot of money from both.


Lying benefiting parties about Flat Earth?  Easy-Peasy. 
"Authors": Mark Sargent, William Carpenter,Godawa, Hendrie, Sarginson (You probably know them all).
The youtube flat earth money makers (You probably know them all).

I don't think YOU are lying.  I think you are delusional and easily misled by anyone who agrees with your deeply embedded creationist indoctrination.

The fact that you are an anti-vaxxer and a flat-earther is evidence of that.

This is not a political site but I'm willing to give 5 to 1 odds that you think Trump won the 2019 election.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #365 on: February 21, 2023, 02:13:52 PM »

https://wonderworksweb.com/page34.html

I found the website, moving around a 502 Bad Gateway.  Wonder Works is a theme park. WonderWorks, Inc. is a  design and production company exactly as described. And look!
 


So, you found a company that produces equipment and stories about spaceflight.  This convinces you that NASA is all lying BS.


Well, either you are lying or you live an extremely double-standard life.

There is this place...https://arkencounter.com/

Does that prove to you that the Ark is all lying BS?  No?  Why the double standard? 

I'll answer my own question, you believe what's convenient for you to believe. 

There are movie sets that depict ancient Rome.  Since there are movie sets, I guess Rome never existed.

There were movie sets to replicate the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.  Since there were movie sets, we must assume, by your logic, that there never really was a 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

Your logic is truly incomprehensible.


 

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #366 on: February 21, 2023, 02:20:27 PM »

I'm a game programmer.   


Which game have you programmed?  Does it run on PCs or Consoles? 

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #367 on: February 21, 2023, 02:29:35 PM »
   

Game programmers seem to have a weakness for conspiracies like flat earth. Is it because they spend so much time creating realities in the gaming world, that they have trouble distinguishing between game reality and actual reality? 

People who write gaming software understand the difference between reality and BS.  I asked @bulmabriefs144 which games she has written.  I don't anticipate getting an answer.  People who write flying or space games or racing games must understand the laws of physics, including gravity.

If she did write any games, they are probably about Adam & Eve petting dinosaurs.  Let's see.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #368 on: February 23, 2023, 08:33:30 AM »

I'm a game programmer.   


Which game have you programmed?  Does it run on PCs or Consoles?

I make amateur games. RpgMaker. I don't have the chops to code entirely using programming language but I did have enough coding to make a highly customized RPG. And no, it's not on Steam or any major platforms. Fuck Steam.

https://rpgmaker.net/users/bulmabriefs144/games/

There is one game that's very Katamari Damacy. You are an alpaca escaping a shearing farm in order to be turned into sausage. A meat-eating alpaca. You have to eat progressively larger animals to reach market weight while avoiding animals that want to eat you. If you make it to the end of the game, but aren't heavy enough to be turned into alpaca sausage this is the "bad ending."

There's another game where you are trying to rebuild a house for your girlfriend because the two of you love each other but can't live together (she's a piece of work).

I think I made a game based on Shinto legend.

There's a game where you play as three Reapers who have slice-of-life adventures.  Each chapter is a separate story.

There was a game that was designed to be a sequel to my main game. That one was basically an absurd parody. It's also a huge file, not because there is massive amount of game there (there isn't) but because I have 8 minute video inserted from Ice Castles in it.

My main game is called Oracle of Tao. It features a street urchin who get tasked with acquiring mystical tattoos to fight a demon. You can also play a second story, if you unlock it by completing the game with a certain party (I think you need to complete a romance sidequest if memory serves, or the party member leaves). The rest are kinda spinoffs.

I think that's about five working games. Not bad for an amateur, no? The only reason I'm not a pro is that I have no connections, and no team. And because my ideas are such that most people don't like them (as you can see from the let's play).

 I'd keep making games but well I got banned from that site, then I got bored with it, and started writing novels instead.
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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #369 on: February 23, 2023, 09:08:11 AM »

https://wonderworksweb.com/page34.html

I found the website, moving around a 502 Bad Gateway.  Wonder Works is a theme park. WonderWorks, Inc. is a  design and production company exactly as described. And look!
 


So, you found a company that produces equipment and stories about spaceflight.  This convinces you that NASA is all lying BS.

Well, either you are lying or you live an extremely double-standard life.

There is this place...https://arkencounter.com/

Does that prove to you that the Ark is all lying BS?  No?  Why the double standard? 

I'll answer my own question, you believe what's convenient for you to believe. 

There are movie sets that depict ancient Rome.  Since there are movie sets, I guess Rome never existed.

There were movie sets to replicate the 1906 San Francisco earthquake.  Since there were movie sets, we must assume, by your logic, that there never really was a 1906 San Francisco earthquake.

Your logic is truly incomprehensible.

Mr Ecco the Dolphin, there is a difference between making movies about things that are already part of settled history (Rome, for example) or mythology (Noah's Ark, for example), vs making movies specifically to push a narrative that "space is real." I'm pretty sure that you can go to Italy, and see ruined ancient structures.

Can you just go into space? No, it's a bit like being told that we've explored everywhere underwater and mermaids don't exist, but oh, I'm sorry only the military and people with $2.7 million to throw around can go visit underwater. And I don't think most of the private submarines can stand up to the bottom of the ocean. Is it unlikely real mermaids exist? Yes, it is unlikely. But do we know that no mermaids exist because we private citizens have widely explored the bottom of the sea? No, no we do not.

As a side note, if you're gonna twist my words outta context and talk about how movies make things real or not (not what I said, I said that a film company is deliberately hoaxing things that are supposed to be "real"), then I suppose these movies need to be talked about. All of them are real. Because you saw it happen.
https://www.cracked.com/article_21776_5-insane-christian-movies-you-wont-believe-arent-parodies.html

Jesus demands you see this film.
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« Reply #370 on: February 23, 2023, 10:41:11 AM »

I'm a game programmer.   


Which game have you programmed?  Does it run on PCs or Consoles?

I make amateur games. RpgMaker. I don't have the chops to code entirely using programming language but I did have enough coding to make a highly customized RPG. And no, it's not on Steam or any major platforms. Fuck Steam.

https://rpgmaker.net/users/bulmabriefs144/games/


Your Tao game features...
Features
-Day/night system.
-A weather system.
-Seasons system, complete with a calendar.

Did you program a rising/setting sun and a calendar using flat earth concepts or readily available spherical gravity earth?



 
My main game is called Oracle of Tao. 
I think that's about five working games. Not bad for an amateur, no?
 

With all due respect making games with RPG Maker is not programming games.  It is more akin to creating basic scenarios in Minecraft.

The only reason I'm not a pro is that I have no connections, and no team. And because my ideas are such that most people don't like them (as you can see from the let's play).

The Magic Man in the sky doesn't give you connections, you have to make connections.

Perhaps people didn't like your games because they were overly simplistic and had graphics from the 80's. 

So you were a "programmer" who cobbled together some coding blocks and an author with no books on Amazon.   

Are you the author of these Bulma books...
...or did you just misappropriate "Bulma"?

 

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #371 on: February 23, 2023, 12:06:42 PM »

Your Tao game features...
Features
-Day/night system.
-A weather system.
-Seasons system, complete with a calendar.

Did you program a rising/setting sun and a calendar using flat earth concepts or readily available spherical gravity earth?

Well, typically in an Rpg, you don't have to think about the physics. You just do tinting. But to answer your question, the model of the sunrise and sunset would be like so.



The sun moves south to north in this game (and back again). There is an equatorial bridge, and going near the rim of the New Earth in a ship causes the ship to turn. You can fly off the New Earth (and immediately die). You can also sail off the New Earth at the equatorial bridge (that should say W and E at the center part). Basically, the New Earth is shaped like a waffle iron. You can't sail off the circular parts, but you can sail off the bridge.

My main game is called Oracle of Tao. 
I think that's about five working games. Not bad for an amateur, no?
 

With all due respect making games with RPG Maker is not programming games.  It is more akin to creating basic scenarios in Minecraft.

It has a full plot, a prologue, gameplay, and an ending. Scenarios in Minecraft will ultimately never use graphics other than, well, this.



With all due respect, I've moved a little past a simple scenario. I seriously doubt you can even create scripted cutscenes in Minecraft. I went past that within the first 20 minutes of gameplay. Not that it's a "good game" but it most definitely is not a "Minecraft scenario." With all due respect (and by that, I mean none), people who compare games that people spent time programming to Minecraft scenarios eat their mom's carnal juices.

The only reason I'm not a pro is that I have no connections, and no team. And because my ideas are such that most people don't like them (as you can see from the let's play).

The Magic Man in the sky doesn't give you connections, you have to make connections.

Blasphemy. The idea of actually meeting people, and talking to them. And being like "Send my game to Squaresoft." That's a heretical idea there.

Perhaps people didn't like your games because they were overly simplistic and had graphics from the 80's. 

Actually, this is par for the course with RpgMaker games. But it's entirely possible to make games that sell on RpgMaker. Check out AraFell for an example. They managed to merch their game on the Nintendo Switch. It's an RpgMaker 2003 game, if I remember correctly. There's also To The Moon, Rise of the Third Power, Savior of the Abyss, and others.

It's just that I have never approached anyone ever with any intention of commercializing my game. That and that I intentionally made the text capable of making people's eyes bleed.


So you were a "programmer" who cobbled together some coding blocks and an author with no books on Amazon.   

Are you the author of these Bulma books...
...or did you just misappropriate "Bulma"?

Actually, I have about seven books (not including different versions) on Amazon. They don't sell because I singularly lack any ambition to advertise. Nor did I get Tor, Doubleday, or any commercial publisher to approve them, go on Oprah, or any of the other typical bullshit that people like James Patterson put up with. Wrote it myself, sent it to Amazon KDP, got it published. No fanfare, so if it sells or not, most people have to search for it.

https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3ASamantha+Rinne+Hooker&s=relevancerank&text=Samantha+Rinne+Hooker&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1

I also have three of them on ScribbleHub (under Series)
https://www.scribblehub.com/profile/55589/bulmabriefs144/

Or the short version, I have no advertising sense.  I cannot be bothered to go to a publisher, and while some small-scale publishers call me (like today) from China or India, I'm more concerned about protecting credit information than making my book big.

I took the name bulmabriefs144 when I was about 13 or so, it's my username.
The person who did Dragon Ball Z is known as Akira Toriyama. I'm sure he likes you criticizing his work as much as any serious writer or programmer hates their work being criticized.


Too bad I am not a serious writer or programmer. I just made this game allow for colorblind tones and added a menu screen that has a sea lion on it.

Though I do object to it being called Minecraft.
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« Reply #372 on: February 23, 2023, 12:21:07 PM »
I'd keep making games but well I got banned from that site, then I got bored with it, and started writing novels instead.

How did you manage to get banned from a game making forum?

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #373 on: February 23, 2023, 01:00:51 PM »
Mr Ecco the Dolphin, there is a difference between making movies about things that are already part of settled history (Rome, for example) or mythology (Noah's Ark, for example), vs making movies specifically to push a narrative that "space is real."
No one is making movies to specifically push a narrative that space is real.
That is just your pathetic to try to dismiss reality.

Can you just go into space?
If you have the money, YES!
Your inability to get there has no impact on its existence.

Otherwise, you may as well just ask a poor, starving kid in a third world country if they can just go to Rome, or anywhere in the western world.
They cant afford to go.
Does that mean they should dismiss Rome as fake?

Because that is really what it's like.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #374 on: February 23, 2023, 02:28:03 PM »
 
Mr Ecco the Dolphin,

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there is a difference between making movies about things that are already part of settled history (Rome, for example) or mythology (Noah's Ark, for example), vs making movies specifically to push a narrative that "space is real." I'm pretty sure that you can go to Italy, and see ruined ancient structures.

I suppose Jules Verne's 1865 book From the Earth to the Moon was to begin the indoctrination of mankind into future NASA conspiracies.

There was a Saturday morning show about a character called Flash Gordon.  I guess in your conspiratorial mind, that show was created to condition wee little kids to the future wherein NASA continues exploiting mankind.


Can you just go into space? No, it's a bit like being told that we've explored everywhere underwater and mermaids don't exist, but oh, I'm sorry only the military and people with $2.7 million to throw around can go visit underwater. And I don't think most of the private submarines can stand up to the bottom of the ocean.

Your ignorance is showing again.  The deepest depths have been reached by private submersibles.

But your chances of going into space or deep underwater are slim to none.  Why would anyone waste precious time and space on someone with no education or training in the subject?  You wouldn't get an audience with the Pope or the Prime Minister of Italy.  Is that indicative of a conspiracy or indicative of your insignificance?  You wouldn't be allowed to drive a Formula 1 car or even fly in an older F16.  Is that indicative of a conspiracy or indicative of your insignificance? 
You wouldn't be allowed time on a high-tech telescope.  Is that indicative of a conspiracy or indicative of your insignificance?  You don't get to do these things because you aren't qualified.  If NASA or one of the private companies decided to take a Flat Earther on a trip, they wouldn't pick you because, even within that small group, you are insignificant.

Is it unlikely real mermaids exist? Yes, it is unlikely. But do we know that no mermaids exist because we private citizens have widely explored the bottom of the sea? No, no we do not.
What a nonsensical argument.  If they did find mermaids deep in the Marianas Trench, you would deny it and convince yourself they just want to hide them from you.


https://www.cracked.com/article_21776_5-insane-christian-movies-you-wont-believe-arent-parodies.html
 
Without looking at your link, I agree that Christian movies are insane.

Jesus demands you see this film.

 

I watched just long enough to see it was a 1 1/2 hour clip.  Not gonna waste my time.


Bottom line, you have given no evidence that any film studio exists for the purpose of fooling people about the realities of spaceflight.  You haven't been able to make a cogent argument for it.  All you have done, as always, is rant about your conspiracy theories.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #375 on: February 23, 2023, 02:43:57 PM »

Well, typically in an Rpg, you don't have to think about the physics. You just do tinting. But to answer your question, the model of the sunrise and sunset would be like so.



The sun moves south to north in this game (and back again). There is an equatorial bridge, and going near the rim of the New Earth in a ship causes the ship to turn. You can fly off the New Earth (and immediately die). You can also sail off the New Earth at the equatorial bridge (that should say W and E at the center part). Basically, the New Earth is shaped like a waffle iron. You can't sail off the circular parts, but you can sail off the bridge.

That's beyond nonsensical.


 
The only reason I'm not a pro is that I have no connections, and no team. And because my ideas are such that most people don't like them (as you can see from the let's play).


Uh huh.
 
Actually, I have about seven books (not including different versions) on Amazon. They don't sell because I singularly lack any ambition to advertise. Nor did I get Tor, Doubleday, or any commercial publisher to approve them, go on Oprah, or any of the other typical bullshit that people like James Patterson put up with. Wrote it myself, sent it to Amazon KDP, got it published. No fanfare, so if it sells or not, most people have to search for it.
So, basically, you paid Amazon to list your book and had no sales.  Not surprising.


Or the short version, I have no advertising sense.  I cannot be bothered to go to a publisher, and while some small-scale publishers call me (like today) from China or India, I'm more concerned about protecting credit information than making my book big.
Uh huh.
I took the name bulmabriefs144 when I was about 13 or so, it's my username.
The person who did Dragon Ball Z is known as Akira Toriyama. I'm sure he likes you criticizing his work as much as any serious writer or programmer hates their work being criticized.
I made no derogatory remarks about Akira Toriyama, so why go there?  My criticisms were all directed toward you.

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« Reply #376 on: February 24, 2023, 01:29:15 PM »
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« Reply #377 on: February 27, 2023, 10:53:08 AM »
I'd keep making games but well I got banned from that site, then I got bored with it, and started writing novels instead.

How did you manage to get banned from a game making forum?

They were woke. They banned me after pointing out that there were stuffing mail-in ballots in a poll center in Florida (this was before 2020 for a Congress thing or something, before they tried it again for real). It didn't take for some reason. And I was still able to post a week or two later.
I participated in a "Rainbow of Positivity" game making contest. I dared to say in the comments when they were being "positive" about complaining that 2016 was a terrible year for LGBT, that I actually was able to come out and everything (under Biden, the whole COVID thing kinda forced me back indoors  >:( ), that no it actually was not a terrible year for LGBT ppl, and reports of intolerance were greatly exaggerated.

This is what wokeness does. Punishes people who actually make decent games, rewards people who just pay others to make games for them, and eventually bans people for reasons that have nothing to do with game construction.
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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #378 on: February 27, 2023, 11:08:01 AM »
I'd keep making games but well I got banned from that site, then I got bored with it, and started writing novels instead.

How did you manage to get banned from a game making forum?

They were woke. They banned me after pointing out that there were stuffing mail-in ballots in a poll center in Florida (this was before 2020 for a Congress thing or something, before they tried it again for real). It didn't take for some reason. And I was still able to post a week or two later.

Is talk of ballot stuffing relevant to game coding?

I participated in a "Rainbow of Positivity" game making contest. I dared to say in the comments when they were being "positive" about complaining that 2016 was a terrible year for LGBT, that I actually was able to come out and everything (under Biden, the whole COVID thing kinda forced me back indoors  >:( ), that no it actually was not a terrible year for LGBT ppl, and reports of intolerance were greatly exaggerated.

Maybe during a contest about making games, you should just make games? And let other people have their non-game making opinions.

This is what wokeness does. Punishes people who actually make decent games, rewards people who just pay others to make games for them, and eventually bans people for reasons that have nothing to do with game construction.

I don't think "wokeness" has to do with quality games that will sell. Or maybe "wokeness" does, in fact, sell games. I mean that's generally what games are created for, to sell. Kinda like your whole, "Science and medical research should only exist if it's for profit..." thing. Seems like the same should apply to games.

As for being banned for nothing to do with game construction, that's my point. Perhaps don't engage when it has nothing to do with game construction and let other folks wallow in such off-topic realms. In other words, your opinion does not have to be made known - Just make games.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #379 on: February 27, 2023, 11:28:37 AM »
I'd keep making games but well I got banned from that site, then I got bored with it, and started writing novels instead.

How did you manage to get banned from a game making forum?

They were woke. They banned me after pointing out that there were stuffing mail-in ballots in a poll center in Florida (this was before 2020 for a Congress thing or something, before they tried it again for real). It didn't take for some reason. And I was still able to post a week or two later.

Is talk of ballot stuffing relevant to game coding?

It wasn't a game-only chatroom. They had topics. People in the forum participated in said topics, or they didn't. As with here, it was entirely possible to just bury a post. Instead folks called me names that aren't worth repeating, nobody got reported for bullying or harrassment. I got reported for "spreading falsehood" or some crap like that.


I participated in a "Rainbow of Positivity" game making contest. I dared to say in the comments when they were being "positive" about complaining that 2016 was a terrible year for LGBT, that I actually was able to come out and everything (under Biden, the whole COVID thing kinda forced me back indoors  >:( ), that no it actually was not a terrible year for LGBT ppl, and reports of intolerance were greatly exaggerated.

Maybe during a contest about making games, you should just make games? And let other people have their non-game making opinions.

Maybe during a contest about making positive games, people shouldn't preface it with an incredibly negative assumption that everyone suffered under Trump. Yes, but I didn't.



That's a way to piss people off even before they start to think about making games.  To be clear, the forum was separate from the game zone, but they were asshats and banned me from the entire thing.
When there is a gaming zone, and a chat zone, the chat zone doesn't necessarily prevent games from being made, yes you are out of line banning people from the whole forum for having dumb opinions. To put this into perspective, even if I am offline, I can no longer enter the site to look at games, download things, or even search my own posts. This is less rights than I had before I signed up. Yes, that's bad.

Maybe you don't know what you are talking about?


This is what wokeness does. Punishes people who actually make decent games, rewards people who just pay others to make games for them, and eventually bans people for reasons that have nothing to do with game construction.

I don't think "wokeness" has to do with quality games that will sell. Or maybe "wokeness" does, in fact, sell games. I mean that's generally what games are created for, to sell. Kinda like your whole, "Science and medical research should only exist if it's for profit..." thing. Seems like the same should apply to games.

Not advertising has a huge amount to do with what games will or won't sell. That's on me.

So does not making the game commercial in the first place (a decision that had a great deal to do with the fact that I was using an engine that legally couldn't be sold commercially (it was a modded engine) and not bothering to remake it). That's also on me. I could have shelled out money and then remade some pro version.
But I was also of the mindset that most of the people who did that were sellouts. 

So does having one dick reviewer announce your game is rubbish, and not revising it after you have a version that is months of work later. Yeah, when you sweat and work to get a game to work, and someone won't give you a review and games are sorted by stars, and the game should now bump up to 3 stars (average), but you have several people whose games have no mistakes but actually better rate you at 1 or 2 stars, yes it's messed up. Especially if the reason they don't like it has nothing to do with bugs (bugs I can fix) but "this game is weird, so I don't like it." Yeah well your game is boring, and I don't like it either. And I don't like that people poorly rated other interesting games either.


As for being banned for nothing to do with game construction, that's my point. Perhaps don't engage when it has nothing to do with game construction and let other folks wallow in such off-topic realms. In other words, your opinion does not have to be made known - Just make games.

Dude, this was a forum that didn't tolerate opinions in Chat sections. That's my point. And I mostly did make games. The occasional political post was enough to get me banned.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #380 on: February 27, 2023, 11:57:19 AM »
I don't think "wokeness" has to do with quality games that will sell.
It can have some impact, especially with regards to marketing.
Just look at Battlefield 5: SJW.

But these days, quite a lot of "games" from publishers aren't really made to sell the game. Instead they are made as a thinly veiled way to extract as much money as possible by having you throw loads of money at the game.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #381 on: February 27, 2023, 12:07:07 PM »
I'd keep making games but well I got banned from that site, then I got bored with it, and started writing novels instead.

How did you manage to get banned from a game making forum?

They were woke. They banned me after pointing out that there were stuffing mail-in ballots in a poll center in Florida (this was before 2020 for a Congress thing or something, before they tried it again for real). It didn't take for some reason. And I was still able to post a week or two later.

Is talk of ballot stuffing relevant to game coding?

It wasn't a game-only chatroom. They had topics. People in the forum participated in said topics, or they didn't. As with here, it was entirely possible to just bury a post. Instead folks called me names that aren't worth repeating, nobody got reported for bullying or harrassment. I got reported for "spreading falsehood" or some crap like that.


Maybe don't spread falsehoods for a start. Maybe learn how to use the quote function as well. It's not hard and makes things easier for everyone else.

I participated in a "Rainbow of Positivity" game making contest. I dared to say in the comments when they were being "positive" about complaining that 2016 was a terrible year for LGBT, that I actually was able to come out and everything (under Biden, the whole COVID thing kinda forced me back indoors  >:( ), that no it actually was not a terrible year for LGBT ppl, and reports of intolerance were greatly exaggerated.

Maybe during a contest about making games, you should just make games? And let other people have their non-game making opinions.

Maybe during a contest about making positive games, people shouldn't preface it with an incredibly negative assumption that everyone suffered under Trump. Yes, but I didn't.

Seems reasonable. Personally, if I were annoyed by a presumptive preamble to a game construction contest or whatever, I simply wouldn't engage at all. Not even enter the contest.

That's a way to piss people off even before they start to think about making games.  To be clear, the forum was separate from the game zone, but they were asshats and banned me from the entire thing.
When there is a gaming zone, and a chat zone, the chat zone doesn't necessarily prevent games from being made, yes you are out of line banning people from the whole forum for having dumb opinions. To put this into perspective, even if I am offline, I can no longer enter the site to look at games, download things, or even search my own posts. This is less rights than I had before I signed up. Yes, that's bad.

Maybe just stick to the gaming and not the chat forums. I guess it's just like many forums, if you get flagged for something, one is usually banned/blocked from the whole thing.

And there are myriad ways around this. Just create a new account. If they are ip blocking, just use a VPN. Even icognito browser features may do the job, don't know.

Maybe you don't know what you are talking about?
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Conceivable.

This is what wokeness does. Punishes people who actually make decent games, rewards people who just pay others to make games for them, and eventually bans people for reasons that have nothing to do with game construction.

I don't think "wokeness" has to do with quality games that will sell. Or maybe "wokeness" does, in fact, sell games. I mean that's generally what games are created for, to sell. Kinda like your whole, "Science and medical research should only exist if it's for profit..." thing. Seems like the same should apply to games.

Not advertising has a huge amount to do with what games will or won't sell. That's on me.

Yep.

So does not making the game commercial in the first place (a decision that had a great deal to do with the fact that I was using an engine that legally couldn't be sold commercially (it was a modded engine) and not bothering to remake it). That's also on me. I could have shelled out money and then remade some pro version.
But I was also of the mindset that most of the people who did that were sellouts. 

So does having one dick reviewer announce your game is rubbish, and not revising it after you have a version that is months of work later. Yeah, when you sweat and work to get a game to work, and someone won't give you a review and games are sorted by stars, and the game should now bump up to 3 stars (average), but you have several people whose games have no mistakes but actually better rate you at 1 or 2 stars, yes it's messed up. Especially if the reason they don't like it has nothing to do with bugs (bugs I can fix) but "this game is weird, so I don't like it." Yeah well your game is boring, and I don't like it either. And I don't like that people poorly rated other interesting games either.
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That's the way the world works. Some people may not like your game because it's weird or whatever. Some people may like it, even because of its weirdness. And if you think someone's game is boring, others may not agree. That's just how it is.

As for being banned for nothing to do with game construction, that's my point. Perhaps don't engage when it has nothing to do with game construction and let other folks wallow in such off-topic realms. In other words, your opinion does not have to be made known - Just make games.

Dude, this was a forum that didn't tolerate opinions in Chat sections. That's my point. And I mostly did make games. The occasional political post was enough to get me banned.

Yep, that's all it takes and well within the rights of the forum owners. Being right or wrong is neither here nor there.

Maybe start your own gaming forum and then you can call the shots.

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« Reply #382 on: February 27, 2023, 12:12:30 PM »
Why are we talking about video games instead of the question stated in the OP's title?

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #383 on: February 27, 2023, 12:14:52 PM »
I don't think "wokeness" has to do with quality games that will sell.
It can have some impact, especially with regards to marketing.
Just look at Battlefield 5: SJW.

Yeah, agreed. That's what I meant by "Or maybe "wokeness" does, in fact, sell games."

But these days, quite a lot of "games" from publishers aren't really made to sell the game. Instead they are made as a thinly veiled way to extract as much money as possible by having you throw loads of money at the game.

For sure. The app store is a perfect example. It's chock full of "free" games. Then you have to pay to get rid of ads every 5 seconds or for DLC's and other add-ons, etc., just to make it actually playable.

I miss the plain and simple, "buy the cartridge or CD, load, and play" days.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #384 on: February 27, 2023, 12:15:55 PM »
Why are we talking about video games instead of the question stated in the OP's title?

Dunno.

But go ahead, talk about the question stated in the OP's title.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #385 on: February 28, 2023, 01:57:26 AM »


Yeah, agreed. That's what I meant by "Or maybe "wokeness" does, in fact, sell games."



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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #386 on: February 28, 2023, 12:46:05 PM »
They were woke.   ...They banned me after pointing out that there were stuffing mail-in ballots in a poll center in Florida (this was before 2020 for a Congress thing or something, before they tried it again for real). 

Two completely different things.   What does you reporting illegal actions in an election have to do with "woke" people banning you from writing games?  From your previous posts, and a little research, it seems you stopped "writing games" because you were unsuccessful at it. 

In a similar vein, you are unsuccessful at being able to present a decent summary of FE.

This is what wokeness does. Punishes people who actually make decent games, rewards people who just pay others to make games for them, and eventually bans people for reasons that have nothing to do with game construction.

Woke is awareness.  Woke is open-mindedness.   Is that a problem for you?  It sounds like you believe that the big bad woke people punished you for making "decent" white-washed games.   Maybe the game-playing public just doesn't want to play "decent" games and are much more likely to pay for GTA and Red Dead Redemption than a story about people washing Jesus's feet.


Also, it's time to get off the pity potty and recognize that the whole world isn't against you, just your worthless ideas.

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« Reply #387 on: March 02, 2023, 07:18:58 AM »
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Woke is awareness.  Woke is open-mindedness.   Is that a problem for you?  It sounds like you believe that the big bad woke people punished you for making "decent" white-washed games.   Maybe the game-playing public just doesn't want to play "decent" games and are much more likely to pay for GTA and Red Dead Redemption than a story about people washing Jesus's feet.

(Facepalming so hard my forehead just bled open)

Wokeness is a delusion of open-mindedness.

In the 80s, 90s, and 2000s, they wanted equality. For men and women to be treated equally. For people to be colorblind. I lived through this period. I pretty much agree. I went to school with blacks and a few Indians, and we invited over to a house once for curry.
The woke like to pretend nobody thought of equality or better society before them. Uhhh yeah, I worked alongside blacks and Hispanics. Went to China and South Africa, mission trip for South Africa and did teaching in China. The 90s were not a horrible racist period, for the most part it was part of progress toward equality. It wasn't perfect equality, but when you erase the past, things don't get better, they get worse.
Then woke culture tried to erase the past, because it showed a slow crawl towards equality. They'd prefer you believe that even as late as the 90s, ppl were sooooo racist, and then out of nowhere, our enlightened saviors told us about critical race theory, and all of a sudden everything was great. Not at all streets filled with violent squabbling like in CHAZ.

Here's what's really going on with illegal immigration. We aren't getting talented ppl who help our country prosper. We get mooches and crimina at best. At worst? Illegal immigration helps human trafficking (slavery) go on.
The woke like to shame ppl who never had any problem with legal immigrants, while the woke participate in enabling slave trade, sex trade, drug trade, and the promotion of crime. Their answer to racism is to point out how ppl are different through identity politics and tokenism (instead of working to be colorblind, and thus truly equal). That has undone strides made against racism, in favor of instead highlighting race. And it's made women, who used to be subject to men and after that equal to men, now homeless on the streets because no man wants them and they want no man. They are a walking mass of insecurities, and wind up collecting food stamps. So progressive!

Wokeism only puts people into a hole where they're stuck and can't figure a way out.

Take an honest look at the women in 90s feminist movies. They are hard-working, they fight, they manage to be tough but still feminine. Now take a look at films like Captain Marvel. The characters don't develop, because they aren't allowed to be vulnerable. They're born awesome. But men can tell women exactly how that worked for them. Unable to cry, to feel, constantly told "be a man", and constantly out of touch with their real self. Macho culture is a disease, and toxic feminism is just as much about macho culture. Men need to be tough and sensitive. But ultimately, men and women are made as complementary. Equality is fine, but the two are supposed to have different roles. This doesn't mean inequality . Or do you secretly think a housewife (or househusband) is less VALUABLE than a full-time working man or woman?
Race is not a thing, so we should stop using it to define our culture. Remove race, and yes there will be male, female, and intersex. But divide genders in 70 or 80 categories is just divisive. No. Just do away with gendered dress codes and expectations. Do away with racial profiling and everyone gets an equal shot. But you don't want that, you want "equity", taking away what little ppl have because you assume they have privilege. A white boy born in rural Alabama is worse off than a black upper middle-class city girl. But equity tells the white kid he has "privilege" and tries to take away what little he's managed to earn.
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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #388 on: March 02, 2023, 09:45:57 AM »
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Woke is awareness.  Woke is open-mindedness.   Is that a problem for you?  It sounds like you believe that the big bad woke people punished you for making "decent" white-washed games.   Maybe the game-playing public just doesn't want to play "decent" games and are much more likely to pay for GTA and Red Dead Redemption than a story about people washing Jesus's feet.

The woke like to pretend nobody thought of equality or better society before them.

Zero people are trying to erase the past. It's called progress.

Slavery, not so great. Emancipation proclamation, great. Enter Jim Crowe laws, not so great. Get rid of those, great. Still school segregation, not so great. Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, great. Segregated transpo, bathrooms, water fountains, restaurant seating, not so great. Rosa parks, Browder v. Gayle, great. Interracial marriages illegal, not so great. Loving v. Virginia, 1967, great. And so on.

Suffrage, not so great. 19th amendment in 1920 passes, great. Inequality in pay, not so great. Equal Pay Act of 1963, great. Federally funded schools sex discrimination, not so great. 1971 Title IX, great. No choice, not so great. Roe v Wade 1973, great. And so on.

Laws prohibiting homosexual activity, not so great. Laws prohibiting homosexual activity being struck down, ongoing, great. Raids on "sexual deviants", not so great. Stonewall, great. DSM lists homosexuality as a mental illnesses, not so great.The board of the American Psychiatric Association votes to remove homosexuality from its list of mental illnesses, great. States discriminate based upon sexual orientation, not so great. 1982, Wisconsin becomes the first U.S. state to outlaw discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, great. And so on.

You see, it's a progression. Each step forward rests on the shoulders of those who came before. There's no such thing as everything all at once. Hence, progression. And sometimes, to proceed, one must ask for more than they know they will get in order to get something. It's called negotiation. And sometimes we're not ready for what we are granted so we need to take a step back to rebalance. The world is not B&W, binary. It's nuanced and the full color spectrum of ideas and how to actually achieve, "All men (humans) are created equal". It's a long road. But we'll get there eventually.

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Re: Three different FE’s, three different butchered versions of gravity.
« Reply #389 on: March 02, 2023, 12:46:22 PM »
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Zero people are trying to erase the past. It's called progress.

Oh really.



So when you tear down Civil War statues, it's not (as you suspect) about "combating racism", it's about erasing the causes of these events. Erasing the causes means that future generations don't understand that slavery happened. Not understanding slavery happened, means that white or black ppl might enslave the other later on. Wanting to get rid of history you don't like actually ensures that  future.  When you don't understand history, you are doomed to repeat it. Btw, that's Abraham Lincoln. You know, they white guy who helped free the slaves? You see, it isn't really about combating racism at all. It's about destroying a narrative and replacing it with your own.

It's nothing to do with progress. For an object lesson on the what this looks like, we have the attacks of the Islamic State on history.
https://theconversation.com/erasing-history-why-islamic-state-is-blowing-up-ancient-artefacts-78667
These acts of violence toward statues are typically followed by genuine violence with the goal of wiping out people. Replacement of one culture with another. That's what happens. Statues of Jacob are destroyed, temples are destroyed, people are killed, then they tell future generations that there was never a temple here.

Progress? No. The worst sort of thugs smash history.

 In fact, the UN classifies such vandalism as a war crime (though they do nothing to stop it).
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