What would a flat earth engineering school look like?

Level flight measures for horizontal paths in the air, going in any direction above the Earth, or in multiple different directions in one same flight, depending on the conditions, of course.

Their flight paths are measured for being level and horizontal in any and every direction of all flights everywhere.

Flight paths only need to fly level and horizontal, because Earths surface is a two dimensional flat surface, not a 3 dimensional curved surface of a ball shaped Earth would be!

Level flight

Measures for altitude and is useless at determining the shape of Earth.
You have had this pathetic BS of yours refuted countless times.
The only thing you achieve by repeating is demonstrating to everyone how utterly pathetic your position is, that you need to repeatedly lie to pretend it is defensible.

So how about you stop lying to everyone?
And that include your pathetic lie that curvature should always be accounted for to make things as accurate as possible, when you have just admitted that you don't always go for as accurate as possible.

Hundreds or thousands of feet of curvature would be flown over by planes, so we’d certainly have to account for it on such flights, but we never do, and they all work perfectly without any curvature accounted for, because there is no curvature TO be accounted for on flights.

How do they manage to fly and land without accounting for your made up curved ball Earth?

Your made up force sends signals to all planes instruments and makes them
magically account for the curve and they never even realize what’s going on with their instruments being tweaked by gravity waves all the time!

That’s gotta be the funniest bs yet!

Laser levels measure for level with straight beams of fine light, and are used by surveyors and others because they’re very accurate instruments for measuring level.

No curve COULD be measured by laser levels, they don’t need to measure for a made up bs curve that’s not there at all!

And how are laser levels tested for their accuracy? Accurate to what?

To true level, true horizontal, measured with targets at a given distance from the laser levels position.

Their accuracy is within a fraction of mm tolerance around it, in a circular distance out from true level.

All because a curve is bs, and they know it is.

Laser levels measure for level with straight beams of fine light, and are used by surveyors and others because they’re very accurate instruments for measuring level.

No curve COULD be measured by laser levels, they don’t need to measure for a made up bs curve that’s not there at all!

Not a laser, but same general idea.

Hundreds or thousands of feet of curvature would be flown over by planes

Which don't fly by dead reckoning, so their natural adjustments during the flight to maintain their attitude and altitude would already account for it without any need for any specific correction.

Again, if you want to lie to everyone by claiming it needs specific accounting for, explaining why and how.

How do they manage to fly and land without accounting for your made up curved ball Earth?

The same way I can walk around a large round building without knowing the radius of curvature or anything like that.
By using a feedback loop, where I look at my position relative to the building and making adjustments to my path to maintain the relative position I want.

This is not hard to do, nor is hard to understand.

Do you think kids playing duck duck goose need to really think hard about the circle and how much they need to turn to the left to make sure they are going around the circle and don't run off away from the circle because they didn't turn enough or crash into the circle because they turn too much?

Where you just strapped to a bed your entire life so you have never experienced these trivial things?

Or are you just hoping everyone is just as stupid as you to be fooled by that pathetic BS?

Laser levels

Are not accurate enough for their range to measure the curve.
But theodolites are and can and do measure for the curve.
But you just want to ignore that.

And how are laser levels tested for their accuracy?

Beam divergence and accuracy of levelling.

Their accuracy is within a fraction of mm tolerance around it, in a circular distance out from true level.

You sure do love lying to everyone don't you?
Care to provide an example of such a highly tolerant system?

All because a curve is bs, and they know it is.

Then why does all the evidence show the curve is real?
Where are there countless things so easily explained by the curve which you can't explain at all?
Why do you need to lie to everyone to much, repeating the same refuted BS?

One would think if the curve was BS, people like you would be able to easily explain things which are currently explained by the curve, and show problems with the RE explanations of them.
One would think if the curve was BS, people like you would be able to defend their claims, rather than ignoring the refutations of it to just repeat the same BS.

Quote from: turbonium2 on July 26, 2025, 03:14:59 AM

Laser levels measure for level with straight beams of fine light, and are used by surveyors and others because they’re very accurate instruments for measuring level.

No curve COULD be measured by laser levels, they don’t need to measure for a made up bs curve that’s not there at all!

Not a laser, but same general idea.

He could have looked at how laser levels are tested for accuracy over twice or more that distance and they measure it within a few mm of error.

They know and have built targets that measure as TRUE LEVEL, at a given height above the surface, which is at sea level or 0 feet altitude.

They use these targets to test accuracy of laser levels over various distances, and the only way they CAN know their accuracy is with targets at true, exact level to the laser levels at a distance away.

Who gives a s$(;t about videos like this? They’re worthless propaganda of the ball Earth toadies.

He could have looked at how laser levels are tested for accuracy over twice or more that distance and they measure it within a few mm of error.

So he could have looked at your pathetic you cannot justify at all?

Again, what laser level are you talking about?
Can you provide a model number, or a link to a datasheet?
Or can you just repeat the same pathetic crap again and again?

Again, if you want accurate measurements, use a theodolite, something which regularly measures the curve.

Who gives a s$(;t about videos like this?

Anyone who is interested in FE arguments and is honest. So I guess that rules out dishonest subhuman scum like you.

They use these targets to test accuracy of laser levels over various distances, and the only way they CAN know their accuracy is with targets at true, exact level to the laser levels at a distance away.

Yes, like the 4km long, perfectly straight and level arms of LIGO.

Who gives a s$(;t about videos like this? They’re worthless propaganda of the ball Earth toadies.

That experiment was conducted by flat earthers.

Which don't fly by dead reckoning, so their natural adjustments during the flight to maintain their attitude and altitude would already account for it without any need for any specific correction.

Again, if you want to lie to everyone by claiming it needs specific accounting for, explaining why and how.

Quote from: turbonium2 on July 26, 2025, 02:53:55 AM

How do they manage to fly and land without accounting for your made up curved ball Earth?

The same way I can walk around a large round building without knowing the radius of curvature or anything like that.
By using a feedback loop, where I look at my position relative to the building and making adjustments to my path to maintain the relative position I want.

This is not hard to do, nor is hard to understand.

Harder to understand why you’re comparing flight navigation at 30000 feet above the Earths surface to someone walking around a building, which is about the worst comparisons I’ve ever seen, so you take the prize for that stunning achievement.

Everything you can’t account for is ‘just done’, planes ‘all adjust in flights normally to the curved surface of Earth below them’, that’s a fine excuse!

They have never adjusted in any flights to your imaginary curved surface, it doesn’t magically adjust for your curve by adjustments during flights, what adjustments are for, when and if they have to adjust during a flight, is due to weather or air turbulence or whatever made them change the path of flight, to later ADJUST in flight to a new path or the original path it was on.

If the surface was actually curved, they’d always adjust for it the same way, for all flights, because it is not like suddenly flying into air turbulence or storms, such things that they didn’t know would happen until later during the flight, that they adjusted for, and may adjust back for again, or so on…

They also KNOW what they need to adjust for during flights, they don’t adjust in flights for no reason, it has to be known to adjust for it, whatever it may be….

It certainly doesn’t adjust for your phantom curvature, and if it did exist, they wouldn’t need to make any sudden adjustments for it during flights, it would be accounted for all the time before flights, and adjusted for as a curved surface below the planes…

They know what they adjust for during flights, you really think they make adjustments but have no idea what they’re adjusting their flights for?

Tell me you’re not that stupid to think pilots are all morons who adjust their flights without knowing why they did!! I guess you are, to argue they make adjustments to a curved surface

Harder to understand why you’re comparing flight navigation at 30000 feet above the Earths surface to someone walking around a building, which is about the worst comparisons I’ve ever seen, so you take the prize for that stunning achievement.

Because it is the same principle.
You adjust based upon your position.

If you want to say there needs to be some specific correction, then explain it, don't just assert crap.

They also KNOW what they need to adjust for during flights

Because unlike you they are not morons and realise that staying at the same altitude is quite similar to staying the same distance away from a circle.
So it would already be adjusted for.

it has to be known to adjust for it

Only if you are trying to make a specific adjustments, primarily based upon using dead reckoning rather than a feedback loop.

Tell me you’re not that stupid

Tell me you're not that stupid to think that pilots fly with dead reckoning, using absolutely no instruments and not even their eyes to tell them about their altitude and attitude, so they need to exactly what is happening both in the plane including all movements of people around the plane, and what is happening outside the plane, to know exactly how to change the controls to get their destination.

Tell me you're not so incredibly stupid that you think a pilot would just continue gaining altitude flying in a straight line, rather than maintaining their altitude to follow the curvature of Earth?

Just consider 3 simply hypothetical scenarios:
1 - flying over a perfectly flat Earth.
2 - Flying over the real round Earth.
3 - Flying inside a hollow spherical Earth.

In all three the pilot somehow manages to have the plane flying perfectly straight, powered by pure magic so they don't need to worry about things like angle of attack and pitch.
In scenario 1, they take off, then level out, and then assuming the pilot is flying level, they stay there. But if they doesn't get it perfect, after some time they have gained altitude or lost it. Does the pilot decide they are flying so they don't need to make any adjustments and continue to go up and up and up until they crash into your dome? Or until they crash into Earth?

In scenario 2, lets say they do manage to level off perfectly. But now, flying straight they are getting higher and higher because they aren't adjusting for the curvature. They see their altitude increasing more and more, but they don't care and keep flying off into space.
In scenario 3, again, they level off perfectly. But now, flying straight they are getting lower and lower, because they aren't adjusting for the curve. They see their altitude decreasing more and more, but they don't care and crash right into this hypothetically hollow Earth.

Or the alternative - The pilot is not the complete imbecile you wish to pretend they are.
Now in all three scenarios, they see their altitude is deviating from what is expected, and make adjustments to correct that.
This means in all three cases, they maintain altitude, following the curve (or flat).

Again, stop playing dumb. It shows how utterly pathetic you are.

Now again, care to provide this laser that is accurate to fractions of a mm at a distance of what I assume is over 3 miles?
If not, care to admit you were making up pure BS?

No, if a plane is flying level, the altitude doesn’t change if the surface curves downward, or upward, or is flat.

Altitude is not actually measured at all, nor could it measure the true altitudes in air, or on ground.

On ground, the altitude is already known, it’s not measured by the altimeters in planes at all.

If it did measure the altitude, the ground would be easiest for it to measure for with altimeters, but it cannot and does not measure for it.

So why would you think we measure the altitude above the ground if we can’t measure for it right ON the ground?

We can’t use air pressure on the ground to measure for altitude, not accurately anyway.

Air pressure varies over the Earth at different altitudes, and even then they are over a general range of altitude levels called gradients. One gradient covers over hundreds of miles in altitudes, so air pressure measurements can’t even work for that one very good reason.

Planes that fly level are in a horizontal straight across path of flight, not measuring an ascent or a descent, is a level and horizontal and straight path of flight.

Any deviation from level and horizontal and straight across flight paths are immediately measured by the VSI as a descent or an ascent in feet per minute, the surface below isn’t measured nor could it be measured in planes above it, except with long distance lasers which hit the ground at whatever altitude it is below the plane, which could be atop a mountain or in a valley or gorge, so wouldn’t help measure the true altitude anyway.

Altimeters are passive instruments, they are set on ground to the known altitude there, and the VSI measures the ascent in feet per minute in distance flown at any given speed of the plane in flight, which goes to the altimeter which adds that altitude to that on the ground, and continues that way over the whole flight.

No, if a plane is flying level, the altitude doesn’t change if the surface curves downward, or upward, or is flat.

Yes, if flying LEVEL!
But if flying straight, then it could go up or down, both on a flat surface from that straight flight not being perfectly level, or even with a straight path where the start of it is level on a curved surface.
Remember, that is the basic claim of stupid/dishonest FEers, that on a round Earth, planes should fly off into space if they are flying straight.

But the point they keep ignoring (you included) is that path off into space results in them getting higher above Earth, in their instruments a greater altitude.
So your absolutely stupidity requires pilots to entirely ignore their instruments and decide to continue flying straight even as their altitude and pitch increase.
Sane pilots instead monitor their altitude and make adjustments to keep it there.

Altitude is not actually measured at all

That depends.
They can use GPS to determine it directly. But more primitive instruments use air pressure as a proxy.
There are also radar altimeters which measure the height above the ground, so if you know the altitude of the ground you can easily work out your altitude.

even then they are over a general range of altitude levels called gradients. One gradient covers over hundreds of miles in altitudes

You sure do love spouting complete and utter crap as if it makes any sense.

But notice what you leave out, how the altimeter works at all.
The altimeter works based upon air pressure.
And that pressure does relate to altitude, but not perfectly.
Which is why they call it an indicated altitude, and one reason why there are safety margins built in to terrain avoidance.

But small air craft use air pressure to get their indicated altitude and fly based upon that.
Even with it not perfectly matching actual altitude, it still allows planes to follow the curve without making intentional adjustments to correct for the curve.
Again, pilots do not fly using dead reckoning, which is what your pathetic BS demands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_altimeter

Meanwhile, surveyors are educated about the curvature of Earth and how it might be important to make corrections for it (depending on the measurements and level of accuracy required) and instruments that can easily measure it.

Planes that fly level are in a horizontal straight

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat this same pathetic lie, it wont make it true.

Any deviation from level and horizontal and straight across flight paths are immediately measured by the VSI as a descent or an ascent in feet per minute

No, it isn't.
And you have already indicated one reason why, changes in air pressure.

the VSI measures the ascent in feet per minute in distance flown at any given speed of the plane in flight, which goes to the altimeter which adds that altitude to that on the ground, and continues that way over the whole flight.

No, it doesn't.
The VSI and altimeter operate independently.
But both use the same principle, pressure.
The VSI just has 2 inputs, one of which is delayed.


This is completely disconnected from the altimeter.

The only exception would be if you had a GPS altimeter, in which case the readings from this would feed into a digital VSI to see how that is changing.
But note that this is feeding the exact opposite way that you claim.

The VSI is not some magic device, set to some magic reference plane which magically measures changes to this magical reference.


So we have educated surveyors, being educated about the curve, and using instruments which can detect and measure the curve; vs your pathetic claims which require pilots to fly using magical instruments and fly via dead reckoning (which would result in most of their passengers ending up dead), and worthless, baseless claims about magical precise lasers, and pathetic semantic games.

Why would any sane person accept your pathetic BS?
Especially when it is so obvious to show it is wrong?

All you do with every post you make is show everyone how desperate and pathetic and dishonest you are.
You show everyone you are willing to spout pure BS which is trivial to refute to pretend your delusional fantasy is true; all while entirely ingoring the refutation of that BS of yours.
Truly pathetic.

I’m well aware of what straight means, what level means, and what horizontal means.

Level is horizontal, they mean the very same thing as paths of direction over a distance or length between two separate points. So of course they are also straight paths or lines, when horizontal, when level.

Level and horizontal are paths over a distance between two separate points, they must be straight lines or paths when they are level and horizontal.

The very essence of level or horizontal means it is a straight across path, curves have NOTHING to do with level or horizontal paths or lines. Completely opposite of level and horizontal straight paths and lines and flat level surfaces.

You cannot measure for level with one point in the middle of the level, because a single point isn’t a path or line over a distance between two separate points. That I what we are measuring for as level, the entire length of the instrument, the entire path is measured for level.

I’m well aware of what straight means, what level means, and what horizontal means.

So you are just intentionally lying to everyone?

Again, planes flying level works perfectly fine on a round Earth. Especially because of what it means.
If you wish to claim otherwise, you need more than pathetic semantic BS.

They don’t fly level over a curved surface, and levels are measured over a distance or length or span or path between two separate points, from one  point to the othet point.

A curved line or surface cannot be measured as straight or level or horizontal over them.

Look at curved line, as a part of a circle, and try to measure it as a level line, with one point above it pointed down to its center point in its middle. Do you think that your one point directly down to its center is measuring the curved line as level, to a curved line? 

No, they know that’s stupid and nonsensical to claim.

They know curves aren’t level at all, they cannot be level, because level is a path over a horizontal line or surface, and that curves are also a path over a distance too, and are not level or horizontal paths, and cannot be measured as level or horizontal paths.


You’re trying to argue that a curved line or surface isn’t a path over a distance, that they are single points on them, each one pointed down to its center, or imaginary center of a curved line, over and over each one point over it.

Its one of the stupidest arguments ever made, but they already know that, so they add their stupidest of all arguments onto it, their ridiculous force that solves all problems and failures of ball Earth lore and myth, which again comes in to the rescue stupid claims that don’t work at all.

When measurements of level became conclusively proven for Earths surface as flat, with measurements over long distances of Earths surface by airplanes and their instruments which measured for level flight, but they first called it horizontal flight as well, not only called level flight, because both words are synonymous and mean the same thing in terms of path or trajectory or direction or length of distance or a span over a distance…

This was going to soon destroy their ball Earth lie, and they knew it would. So they have tried to entirely change the meaning of level as the same as horizontal means, and called it only level, and then they claimed that level is not horizontal or straight or a path at all, it is a single point on a curved surface, but only one very special curved surface, of the Earth, because it has a force within its center, called gravity, and this great force is what we measure as level, with one single point above the surface, directed straight downward to the center point of Earth, where the force exists, and sends out its signals or waves of energy, to that one point directed down to the middle of Earth, or sends the force of energy up to the one point, but either way, the force changes level from a path over two separate points linked together, which is done by all instruments which measure for level.

There’s nothing gravity cannot do, cannot answer for, it even makes our instruments that measure for level, because they stopped calling it horizontal earlier on, made it easier for them to say one word instead of two words that are synonymous.

Level was better than horizontal. Everyone knows horizontal is a path over a distance, and is a straight and level line or path.  They chose level, but it still has problems selling it for only one curved surface, of the ball Earth.

That’s where gravity came to the rescue! It detects all our instruments that measure for level now, which is great news to hear! 

This force sends out its energy to all instruments, measuring for level between two points over them, for a level path or surface of some type, and they now claim that levels measure only one point along them, in the exact center, not over the whole instrument measuring for a path of being level, anymore.

One point is measured with levels, not the entire distance of the instruments are measuring for level!!


Gravity says so, and who argues with the greatest force of the entire universe that it can’t do anything it wants to do!!!

They don’t fly level over a curved surface

Well Earth is a curved surface, and they fly level over that, so they are clearly flying level over a curved surface.

Again, your pathetic lies don't change that.

A curved line or surface cannot be measured as ... level or horizontal over them.

Again, repeatedly lying to everyone wont make it true.

Look at curved line, as a part of a circle, and try to measure it as a level line

Try and understand what level means.
Then you will see how it is easy to do it.

with one point above it pointed down to its center point in its middle.

Now try it with every point on the circumference having the tangent be perpendicular to a line going straight down to the centre point.

No, they know that’s stupid and nonsensical to claim.

Who is "they"?
Engineers and surveyors?
If so, they would think your semantic BS is stupid and nonsensical.
They fully accept curves can be level.

When measurements of level became conclusively proven for Earths surface as flat

You mean in your pathetic delusional fantasy?
Because that has never happened in reality.

Again, so far all your attempts have been nothing more than pathetic lies.

Again, stop with all the pathetic BS. It just shows how utterly pathetic and dishonest you are.

Engineers and surveyors know the difference between level and curved and sloped and all the other types of surfaces or features on surfaces.

How do you measure for level?

Level is a path over a distance, so is a curve.

You don’t know a curve from one point on an unknown surface, measured downward to the center of a ball Earth.

Making up a bs force cannot make a curved surface measure as a level surface either.

Laser levels emit straight beams of light, directed out horizontally over the surface, above a floor in a house, along beams in a house, and many other things are measured with laser levels.

Those straight beams of light do not measure at one point along their light beams, and point to down to a ball Earth center or core, so there goes your bs claim for that nonsense 

How accurate laser levels are, that they’re not able to measure your bs curvature, is that they aren’t trying to measure for curvature, so why do we use laser levels is to measure for horizontal paths and lines, because they know there is no curvature on Earth to BE measured or accounted for with laser levels of a straight beam of light.

Laser levels today are the most accurate instruments that measure for level, and they don’t need a made up force in a ball Earth to make them measure level to curvature of a ball Earth, so maybe your bs force doesn’t make any other instruments measure level to a curvature either!

Engineers and surveyors know the difference between level

And straight.

They know what it means to be level.

How do you measure for level?

This depends on many factors.
But the only time it is done in the manner of a straight line, is when the uncertainty or tolerance would allow the curve of Earth.
We have been over this.

Laser levels

You are yet to provide a single example of a laser level which is precise enough to measure the curvature of Earth.
Bringing them up again just shows you are a lying POS.

Again, if you want it more accurate, you use a theodolite, like surveyors do, which can measure for the curve, where they have to make corrections if the specific requirements for the surveying job require it; and as discussed in the textbooks you needed to ignore repeatedly.

Laser levels today are the most accurate instruments that measure for level

Again, lying will not save you.
It just shows how truly pathetic, desperate and dishonest you are.

They don’t fly level over a curved surface, and levels are measured over a distance or length or span or path between two separate points, from one  point to the othet point.

Please stop insisting that level  can only ever mean one thing.  It can have a number of different meanings depending on the context.  Fore example, when air traffic control tells a pilot to proceed to flight level 350, that means that the pilot should go to and maintain an elevation of 35,000 feet, regardless of the shape of the earth.

What would it mean if we can’t measure for curvature at all?

We don’t ever measure for curvature, and you claim we can’t measure for curvature at all, so when a plane flies over hundreds or thousands of feet curvature downward on the surface, the made up force must have done it somehow of course. Bs at its finest once again!

Level is a horizontal path over a distance.

There is no horizontal path over a curved surface or curved path.

We cannot measure for level to a curve, level is a horizontal path over a distance, the entire path is level, not one point in its middle to a point on a curved path. It’s complete bs.

We cannot measure for level to a curve, level is a horizontal path over a distance, the entire path is level, not one point in its middle to a point on a curved path.

Sure you can.  Just measure every point along the curved path and maintain a constant distance above each of those points along the way.  Presto!  A level path along a curved surface.

What would it mean if we can’t measure for curvature at all?

That you are living in a delusional fantasy.
We can and have, countless times.
A fact supported by the surveying textbooks you repeatedly lied about.

We measure for curvature when it is appropriate.
For plenty of times, it isn't needed at all.

Level is a horizontal path over a distance.

Yes, HORIZONTAL, not straight.

So if you follow a path around a sphere, making sure the path is horizontal at all points, you trace a circle.
That is a level circle.
A horizontal path over a curved surface.

Lying about this just shows your desperation.

Again, try dealing with the RE model, including what you have already stated about it, that at any time you are at the top.

Try drawing what you think a level path in this RE model would look like.
Because you have already been given plenty of examples by REers, showing a simple circle, one you cannot show any fault with at all.

Quote from: turbonium2 on August 09, 2025, 07:25:37 AM

What would it mean if we can’t measure for curvature at all?

That you are living in a delusional fantasy.
We can and have, countless times.
A fact supported by the surveying textbooks you repeatedly lied about.

We measure for curvature when it is appropriate.
For plenty of times, it isn't needed at all.

Quote from: turbonium2 on August 09, 2025, 07:38:09 AM

Level is a horizontal path over a distance.

Yes, HORIZONTAL, not straight.

So if you follow a path around a sphere, making sure the path is horizontal at all points, you trace a circle.
That is a level circle.
A horizontal path over a curved surface.

Lying about this just shows your desperation.

Again, try dealing with the RE model, including what you have already stated about it, that at any time you are at the top.

Try drawing what you think a level path in this RE model would look like.
Because you have already been given plenty of examples by REers, showing a simple circle, one you cannot show any fault with at all.

No, we cannot measure a point on a curved line or curved surface as horizontal, or level, which mean the same thing in this regard.

Exactly what do you think you’re measuring as horizontal with one point on ANY line or surface?  There’s nothing to measure a point TO, so what do you think you’re doing?

Again, horizontal and level is over a path or a span of distance, same as curves are paths or lines of a distance.

A single point cannot be measured for a curve or for level or horizontal, which are paths or spans of a distance, BETWEEN TWO SEPARATE POINTS OR ANY LENGTH OF DISTANCE.

Time you stopped believing this bs and used your own brain for once.

So if you follow a path around a sphere, making sure the path is horizontal at all points, you trace a circle.
That is a level circle.
A horizontal path over a curved surface.

Again, one single point ANYWHERE on ANY line or surface, cannot be measured for horizontal or level or curved or straight or anything at all.

Let’s go over this new bs they’ve spewed out..

They say and you believe them that a single point on a curve can be measured as level or horizontal. And how is that supposedly measured as horizontal? By the one point aimed straight downward to a ball Earth core or center point, that is the first thing done. How it is possibly done, how anyone possibly knows any core exists, when we’ve only gone a few hundred feet below the surface, speaks about how unbelievably arrogant and ignorant they are at the same time. So eff off about your bs core in the middle of a bs ball Earth, because it’s completely made up.  Si don’t bleat on about a core, it’s idiotic and stupid.

Uh oh, you kinda needed that made up core for your made up bs argument!

Your one point on a curved surface is a very unique and amazing point. Other points are simply points on a line or graph, they just sit there as a point, never making more of themselves!

But not YOUR one point on a curved surface! It shoots a straight line down through the curved surface and hits the ‘core’ they made up in the middle of a made up ball Earth.

Oh, I forgot to ask you…How does this little point on a curve shoot down a straight line, and how could it know it’s a straight line, and that it hits the made up core?

Another problem- what exactly are you trying to measure for? The surface, right? Or measure for level or horizontal?

Ok, if I can recall, you claimed this one point on a curved surface which somehow shoots out a line straight down to the core, and that is where you believe this first line is VERTICAL, is that right?

So how would you ever measure for this imaginary line that shoots down from the single point on a curved surface to a fictional core?

Then how can you measure that one point as horizontal or level? You can’t measure for it. Because they are paths or spans over a distance, that is the only way to measure for horizontal and level.

A point on a curved surface that shoots down a straight line to a made up core is a great piece of fiction, but not any sort of actual measurement at all. You know that don’t you?

It’s your imaginary vertical line, is it not? Right, wtf!

And this imaginary unmeasurable vertical line going from a point to the imaginary curve in the made up ball Earth, are then used to measure for horizontal at that little point?

So how is this done? Do you put a level atop the little point at its center, and wiggle it up and down until it reads level?

I’m wondering just how you can measure this one paint as level or horizontal.

The imaginary unmeasurable vertical line going out to a phantom core in ball Earth middle, cannot be referred to as actually vertical, the point can’t be measured for horizontal either.

The only thing I know for certain about all this garbage, is that they needed some story about how level and horizontsal are measured over a curved ball Earth, and this is the pile of crap they came up with for it!!

Plop in fictional forces within a fictional core in the fictional ball Earth. Put a dot on the curved surface, say it shoots down the longest straight line ever made up to the bs core that doesn’t exist either.

Somehow, all of this bs can become a vertical line. Sure it is, and also a hirizontal line, right?

Except your horizontal can’t be a line, only the vertical one is a line!

Your vertical line is a path over a very long distance from the point on the curve to the core in the center, right?

You have two separate points over a distance, between them, in a line over that distance, which measures nothing but would measure for vertical if it did!

And you see how that vertical phantom line or path goes out a long distance to your core? And it would also extend out from the one point into air.

Same as a horizontal line, is over a line of distance, stretching out over the whole Earth on each side of it.

So you cannot measure for horizontal on one little point,?because horizontal and vertical are measured over a distance or path or line.

When you say the one point is measured for horizontal, it cannot be anything horizontal at all.

To measure for horizontal, it must extend outward as horizontal over to infinity both ways out.


What a complete mess your story is, start to finish. It needs to be finished and trashed.

They’re really getting desperate and worried about the truth being revealed to the world, more and more all the time.


When they go to changing and twisting the very meaning and definition of level, claim that level is measured over a curved surface, with their ridiculous bs story, who knows what they’ll try next?

The funny part of all this is that we or at least I know exactly why they’re doing all this. Level flight proves Earth is flat, measured flat with our instruments, without that intent of course, but they certainly did measure for it as flat.

This new bs is not going to work, it cannot work. But they know it doesn’t matter if it works, because people like you will buy this garbage as true and never know it’s pure crap.

Have fun with crap in future, it’ll get even worse I’m sure.

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Such a simple task, yet you can't even do it.

Why don't you stop all the pathetic BS, and try doing that task?
i.e. using your brain for once.

Again, try drawing what you think a level path in this RE model would look like.

Because we most certainly can determine if the line is level at any given point on the line.
And for a RE, that level line is a circle.
You lying about it wont change it.

If you want to disagree, then draw what you think this level, horizontal path should look like.

Uh oh, you kinda needed that made up core for your made up bs argument!

Now try that honestly.
You need to wilfully reject a key part of the RE model (one supported by mountains of evidence) to pretend there is a problem with the RE model.

All you are demonstrating a problem with is yourself.

Again, stop with all the pathetic BS and try completing this trivial task.
Try drawing what you think a level path in the RE model would look like.

They’re really getting desperate and worried about the truth being revealed to the world, more and more all the time.

There you go projecting yet again.

Given such a simple task, and yet one you know will utterly destroy your pathetic BS.
So you do whatever you can to avoid it.

Again, stop with all the BS.


Try drawing what you think a level path in the RE model would look like.