Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #150 on: November 06, 2022, 10:14:40 PM »
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I have no god, with no actions to discuss.
You telling you have not god does not magically make your God not exist.
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It is your god that we are discussing, and so it is its actions which YOU need to defend.
What we're discussing is your God. In order for what we were discussing to be my God, we should have been talking about my God. But we're talking about your dream God. You're the one who should be defending his issues, not me.
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You cannot defend them by just baselessly your evil POS is good.
The good God has no action that needs defense. The actions that must be defended belong to your evil God, and that is none of my business.
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I did.
Back here:

You haven't referenced the verse here, and you're describing your own pathetic misunderstanding. Clearly, the verse does not mention that God is a bad boy and acts accordingly. Then you are lying. Your Lying does not constitute proof. Clearly, God has never stated that he is doing evil anywhere. You're making it up, or it is your own God who makes evil.
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It is NOT my choice. If it was my choice, I choose to not get tormented.
It is your choice to do evil others, by not telling them they have to not vaccinated. It's your choice to tell others the world isn't flat. Thousands of people die every day because of both of your choices. But you claim that God is magically evil when you have to pay for it. No, you are the bad one and choised to be an evil.
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I have done nothing to deserve torment.
Again, again and again; It is your choice to do evil others, by not telling them they have to not vaccinated. It's your choice to tell others the world isn't flat. Thousands of people die every day because of both of your choices. But you claim that God is magically evil when you have to pay for it. No, you are the bad one, but not the God.
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And even if I had, it would still be whoever is delivering that "punishment" that is making the choice to do so.
I'm glad you admit your guilt for not telling the others not to get vaccinated. Now face the fact that you have to be punished, regardless God has free will.
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Good thing I am, unlike you, using whatever dishonest BS you can to pretend your god isn't an evil POS.
You claim that you did the good things that happened to you, but when God punishes you for not telling others not to get vaccinated, immediately God turns bad and you claim to be mine. No, he is one God and just, whether or not you agree it, regardless your BS claims.
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If my explanation was actually wrong, and you knew that, you would be able to demonstrate why it is wrong, instead of fleeing from it and repeatedly asserting the same pathetic refuted claims.
Everyone can see that I'm not running anywhere here. You are the one who ran away. Dozens of where is the evidence? The evolutionary evidence you have presented so far: zero.Evolutionary questions in the middle that I stand of but you avoid answering: 1, where are the middle forms?
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I haven't claimed your god wronged me.
Because there is no such God, she is your God, your God, who will punish you for not warning other people not to get vaccinated.
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I provided them, and you just ignored it.
Is there any evidence here right now? Zero proof. Claiming to provide them doesn't magically make them exist, but your imagination does. I don't have to accept the BSs you create with your imagination, neither nobody.
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The links have been provided above.
The above links prove how far you are from understanding the verses. There is clearly nothing here that proves evolution.
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Yes, because the actions of God in the Bible are those of a childish evil tyrant, not a good being.
This is your BS thoughts have nothing with Bible. It is your God who you are describing, but not the God of the bible.
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You mean they are Muslim like you.
I mean they are globalist like you. It is clearly religious tyranny to classify people by religion and to claim that they are alike.
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A terrorist group accepting the reality that Earth is round makes no difference to me.
A terrorist group claiming they are islamic makes no difference to me.
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The one who should be ashamed is you, for sharing a religion, something with no evidence to support it, with them.
Are you embarrassed that you share the same world-shape view as them? No. This proves your hypocritical double standard. You are someone who feeds off the false beliefs of terrorists.
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Lets count the evidence I need to put forward to support evolution: ABSOLUTELY NONE!
Because you failed to prove evolution, you pitifully deny that you should. Your denial of this necessity does not magically remove it.There is a pathetic theory of evolution still waiting to be proven by you, how pity.
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I am under no obligation to provide you with any evidence to support evolution.
Because you know, you can't. How pathetic.
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You are trying to use your ignorance of evolution to pretend a god must exist.
You're the one who claims to know a lot about evolution and can't provide a single piece of evidence, not me. I presented counter-evidence and you couldn't even convincingly disprove it. This issue has nothing essentially to do with God, you're the one who said it. You're citing evolution as a justification for your pathetic belief as an atheist, and the amount of evidence you have for that is: zero.
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If you want to claim evolution is impossible the burden is on you to prove it.
We are not discussing whether something is possible here. When there is an unproven theory, there is no need to discuss the possibility of it happening. Everything has a probability, but the fact that something has a probability or that its probability cannot be proven otherwise does not make it exist or not. You are the one who claims that evolution exists, and you have to prove it. Avoiding the burden of proof does not remove it. But we're used to you avoiding responsibility. Just like you're avoiding responsibility for the thousands of people who died because you didn't tell them not to get vaccinated. Are we surprised? Absolutely no.
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I don't need to prove evolution is real to have a justification to not believe in your fantasy.
You're looking for a place to escape to something you know you can't prove.  You are the one who said that evolution exists and that there is evidence, but you failed to reveal a single one. What a hearth touching scene.
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Absolutely none.
Closing your eyes to the facts won't magically make them go away. Just like the objection to evolution. I told you where the intermediate forms were and you came up with a ridiculous, pathetic, BS excuse that, they died. Frankly, this childish excuse of yours was not enough to dispel the objection. You still have a fire in your house waiting to be put out.
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Yes, such as how you repeatedly run away from simple questions.
Like what? You are talking about yourself.
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The god you worship is an evil POS which leads to creation of groups like ISIS.
No, the reason for the formation of that terrorist formation is the people defending the globe model. Every rocket supposedly going to Mars helps a terrorist organization like ISIS kill one more person. On the other hand, when they claim to be Muslims, you are on the same side in claiming the same thing. However, I do not accept that they believe in God. This is their and your joint claim. In this respect, you are on the same side. They and you say that the earth is a sphere. In this respect, you are still on the same side. They killed my friends, but if they followed their religious beliefs, wouldn't it make more sense for them to kill atheists? No, they have nothing to do with Islam or their belief in God. They are an attic terrorist organization and like you they are fed by lies of NASA.  This organization could not find a base here. Because there is no one who believes like them, only you and atheists like you claim that they are Muslims. Avicenna, Mimar Sinan, Farabi, Mevlana (tells come whoever you are), Birunni, Mehmet Öz, Uğur Şahin, Malcolmx, and many are also Muslims, but that doesn't seem to interest you much. Because they can't feed you.
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You have clearly described your god as creating me.
God created you to be inherently evil, I mean your soul, but your own God is the one who incarnated you as an NPC3 and sent you to earth to cause problems and represent the antichrist.
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Which again would mean that you are claiming your god created me.
He is your God created you. Whatever way you talk about God, from the moment you talk about her, she is your God.
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No, it isn't.
Yes it is.
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I am not the fool who foolishly believes in a god when there is no reason at all to believe in such a being.
You are simply wrong knowing about yourself. Quite opposite.
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As such, it CANNOT be my god we are talking about.
We've been talking about your God all along. Your God, ordering you not to say that people should not be vaccinated, ordering you to defend that the earth is a sphere with ISIS, and ordering you to argue that God does not exist, has been the main theme of this correspondence from the beginning.
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As you are the one who believes in this evil POS (even though you refuse to admit it is evil), it is YOUR god we are talking about.
When you talk about God, you either need to accept him as I accept him, or need to accept him as everyone else accepts, or you may accept as you wish. But when you define it as you want then it turns to be your God, neither mine nor anyone else's. Is there anything left that you don't understand here?
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #151 on: November 06, 2022, 10:28:13 PM »
You have made it a point to make one thing first, so everything else is irrelevant, until you accept that.
You are simply wrong knowing about yourself. Quite opposite.
You sure do love your pathetic double standards.
Any delusional BS you say must be taken as the truth, and anyone who disagrees must be wrong.

I know what I believe, and I do not believe in a god.
So if you claim we are talking about my god, you are lying.

We've been talking about your God all along.
No, we haven't.
This discussion started with genesis, with you wanting to claim that represents your god, which you want to pretend is everyone's god.
As I have no god, it is impossible to be talking about my god.
This means we have been talking about your god.

When you talk about God, you either need to accept him as I accept him
No, I don't.
I can expose the contradictions between what your claim your god is and what your god would actually be based upon the actions it has allegedly performed.
I don't need to accept your baseless BS that it is good, when its actions make it evil.

If you want to claim that isn't your god, you need to claim that they are not the actions of your god.
You need to say Genesis is not describing your god.
While you claim Genesis is describing your god, that makes your god evil due to the actions it commits in Genesis.

So what is it going to be? Your god is not the god of Genesis? Or your god is evil?

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #152 on: November 06, 2022, 10:52:25 PM »
Above are three dozen questions still waiting to be answered. Since you can't respond, it means you pitifully admit that you can't. Just because you say you don't believe in God doesn't change the fact that you believe in God. You have to prove it. But your actions reveal that you believe in his existence.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #153 on: November 06, 2022, 11:56:32 PM »
Above are three dozen questions still waiting to be answered.
Because you said this:
Firstly, it is your God you are talking about.
As you want to keep lying by falsely claiming it is my non-existent god you are talking about, all your questions are moot, until this particular line of BS of yours is dealt with.
Especially as the vast majority of your "questions" amount to nothing more than your pathetic claim that it is my non-existent god we are talking about, and pathetic deflection from your refusal to admit your god is evil.

So until you can agree it is your god we are talking about further discussion is pointless.

So are you going to agree it is your god we are talking about?
Or will you keep up with your pathetic lies that I have a god?

Just because you say you don't believe in God doesn't change the fact that you believe in God. You have to prove it. But your actions reveal that you believe in his existence.
As I have explained to you before, none of my actions indicate I believe in a god.
I am free to talk about fictional characters without believing they exist.

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #154 on: November 07, 2022, 12:24:46 AM »
As you want to keep lying by falsely claiming it is my non-existent god you are talking about, all your questions are moot, until this particular line of BS of yours is dealt with.
Especially as the vast majority of your "questions" amount to nothing more than your pathetic claim that it is my non-existent god we are talking about, and pathetic deflection from your refusal to admit your god is evil.

So until you can agree it is your god we are talking about further discussion is pointless.

So are you going to agree it is your god we are talking about?
Or will you keep up with your pathetic lies that I have a god?
I explained the situation to you, but you would rather run away than admit it. If we're going to talk about biblical God, we should do it as described in the Bible and with biblical assumptions.

If we're talking about a God as you understand it, and that God isn't like the God described in the bible, then that God is your God, not the biblical God. Telling you the truth isn't pathetic, it's honesty and your rejection of them is the pathetic and dishonesty thing.

The pathetic thing here is that you think your pathetic and unbiblical beliefs are biblical.
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As I have explained to you before, none of my actions indicate I believe in a god.
Your statements clearly show that you believe in a God. Then you pathetically claim that you don't believe it. Hypocrisy is not a type of explanation, but this is your way.
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I am free to talk about fictional characters without believing they exist.
Of course you are free, everyone is free to talk about anything. But you avoid taking responsibility for what you say. You are responsible for everything you say and don't say. God punishing you for failing to fulfill your responsibilities does not become a bad God; on the contrary, punishing you for being wicked makes him a just God.

Thousands of people died because you clearly had the opportunity to prevent other people from getting vaccinated but you did not; Thousands of people died because you supported the lie that the world is a globe in coordination with terrorist organizations, and there must be a price for this. But when God demands that price from you, he becomes an evil God for you.

You don't believe in the God we believe in, that's for sure, but you do have a God, and he's a God who lets you do everything wrong, doesn't hold you accountable, just exists to serve you. Because you cannot accept any other kind of God. This makes it your God and cannot be found anywhere else but in your dreams.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #155 on: November 07, 2022, 12:34:25 AM »
Your statements clearly show that you believe in a God. Then you pathetically claim that you don't believe it. Hypocrisy is not a type of explanation, but this is your way.

What is wrong with you? Someone repeatedly says they don’t believe, worship, follow or even have a god and you’re like, “yes, you do believe, worship, follow a god…” Who are you to tell someone else they have a god when they have clearly said they don’t?

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #156 on: November 07, 2022, 12:38:09 AM »
Your statements clearly show that you believe in a God. Then you pathetically claim that you don't believe it. Hypocrisy is not a type of explanation, but this is your way.

What is wrong with you? Someone repeatedly says they don’t believe, worship, follow or even have a god and you’re like, “yes, you do believe, worship, follow a god…” Who are you to tell someone else they have a god when they have clearly said they don’t?

Oh, your reply shows that jackblack is having a trouble answering me. Are you her lawyer? Or has he become too pathetic to answer me? If I know your general thoughts on the matter, we can talk about them. I'm currently working on the problem of jackblack's disbelief and it's none of your business. Are you in the same category as him religiously? Do you believe in God? Why does this subject interest you?

I did not say that he should worship him. You obviously don't understand the subject. Speak the way you understand and let's talk about your belief. Come one by one.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #157 on: November 07, 2022, 12:49:42 AM »
Your statements clearly show that you believe in a God. Then you pathetically claim that you don't believe it. Hypocrisy is not a type of explanation, but this is your way.

What is wrong with you? Someone repeatedly says they don’t believe, worship, follow or even have a god and you’re like, “yes, you do believe, worship, follow a god…” Who are you to tell someone else they have a god when they have clearly said they don’t?

Oh, your reply shows that jackblack is having a trouble answering me. Are you her lawyer? Or has he become too pathetic to answer me? If I know your general thoughts on the matter, we can talk about them. I'm currently working on the problem of jackblack's disbelief and it's none of your business. Are you in the same category as him religiously? Do you believe in God? Why does this subject interest you?

I did not say that he should worship him. You obviously don't understand the subject. Speak the way you understand and let's talk about your belief. Come one by one.

I’m just a concerned citizen who tires of your bizarre ego-maniacal statements.

I mean, is this not clear:
“Or will you keep up with your pathetic lies that I have a god?”

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« Reply #158 on: November 07, 2022, 12:57:28 AM »
I explained the situation to you
No, you didn't.
You asserted your delusional BS and just demanded I accept it.
You demand I think your god is good purely because you want it to be good, even though you can't defend its actions.
When I call it out on its evil actions, you then lie and say I am talking about my god.

If we're going to talk about biblical God, we should do it as described in the Bible and with biblical assumptions.
And then means judging it based upon the actions it has done in the Bible.
It does not mean baselessly accepting it is good just because the Bible says it is good.
Especially as it is allegedly God's word. Why should we trust it if it says it is good?

Your statements clearly show that you believe in a God.
Stop just asserting pathetic BS.
None of my statements indicate I believe in a god.
The closest you get to that is when I am discussing a being I think is fictional.
That does not mean I believe in a god.

If you want to falsely claim this BS then at least have the decency to provide a direct quote of what you claim indicates this.

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #159 on: November 07, 2022, 12:58:18 AM »
I’m just a concerned citizen who tires of your bizarre ego-maniacal statements.

I mean, is this not clear:
“Or will you keep up with your pathetic lies that I have a god?”

Who do you think you are?
You're just another atheist who wants take lesson.

And so far you haven't been able to integrate into the issue between Jack and me. Your believing or not in God is a matter between you and him, and that's none of my business. My believing in God is a matter between me and God, and that is none of your business.

So what is your problem here? Your ordinary citizen comments don't interest me here. I am not a candidate in the election and I do not expect support or criticism from you. But you, as another atheist (or rather, you claim it) seem to be upset that your religious brother has fallen into pathetic. What a touching scene, haha.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #160 on: November 07, 2022, 01:06:23 AM »
So what is your problem here?

My problem is an insane statement like this:


Thousands of people died because you clearly had the opportunity to prevent other people from getting vaccinated but you did not; Thousands of people died because you supported the lie that the world is a globe in coordination with terrorist organizations, and there must be a price for this. But when God demands that price from you, he becomes an evil God for you.

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #161 on: November 07, 2022, 01:19:27 AM »
No, you didn't.
Yes I did, 30-odd questions shouting how pathetic you are still waiting to be answered by you.
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You demand I think your god is good purely because you want it to be good, even though you can't defend its actions.
I don't want you to believe in anything. God is good, whether accept it or not. The God you describe is evil and he is your God. What part of this do you still not understand?
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When I call it out on its evil actions, you then lie and say I am talking about my god.
Yes, because he has no bad work. When God says he is doing evil, he is not God in the common sense, but your own evil, tyrannical, childish God.
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And then means judging it based upon the actions it has done in the Bible.
To do this, you must be a fair judge. You are clearly not responsible, but hypocritical, by no means just and you have no right to judge God. But you have the right to judge a God, your own God. Because your God and you get along well, you look alike each other. I don't think he would mind if your God has been judged by you.
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It does not mean baselessly accepting it is good just because the Bible says it is good.
Yes, you don't have to accept it. But we don't have to accept your BSs in your dream as God in bible. Do we agree on this?
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Especially as it is allegedly God's word. Why should we trust it if it says it is good?
To trust or not to trust is your problem, not mine. It's a problem between you and God or your God, your problem in both cases.
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Stop just asserting pathetic BS.
They are not pathetic BS but denying your own belief is pathetic BS thing here.
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None of my statements indicate I believe in a god.
You're talking about a God who doesn't fit the biblical God, and that makes him your God. To you God is evil, the child is a Tyrant. This is your own belief in God and has nothing to do with the bible. Obviously you believe in God, but you believe wrongly. This child evil tyrant God doesn't hold you accountable either, because you yourself are irresponsible, you think God is like you. But this has nothing to do with the God in Bible, it is your God.
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The closest you get to that is when I am discussing a being I think is fictional.
That does not mean I believe in a god.
Unless you can refer to a source outside of yourself and reveal that the God in your BS is the God in that source, it will remain your God.
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If you want to falsely claim this BS then at least have the decency to provide a direct quote of what you claim indicates this.
If you're aware, I use the phrase "your God" and I also use the phrase "tyrant boy bad God". It is clear that, I wouldn't be able to do this if I thought that "your God" you were talking about was "God. But I have no problem with that, because the God you speak of has nothing to do with the God in the bible,  but he is your own child, evil, tyrant God, purely belongs on you, your BS imaginative.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #162 on: November 07, 2022, 01:51:23 AM »
You're just another atheist who wants take lesson.
Are you sure they aren't here to object to your BS?

Perhaps that is your issue? You think everyone who doesn't believe your delusional BS just wants to be taught by you.

I don't want you to believe in anything. God is good, whether accept it or not.
If you are so confident, why don't you skip all the BS, skip the pathetic deflection, admit we are talking about your god, and try defending its action.

The God you describe is evil
And it is your god, which means your god is evil.

and he is your God. What part of this do you still not understand?
It isn't that I don't understand, it is that you are spouting pure BS.
I have no god, so we cannot be talking about my god.
We are talking about your god, the evil POS you worship.

Yes, because he has no bad work.
Then justify the evil acts it has done in the fantasy world you believe in, rather than repeating the same pathetic lie that it is my god.


To do this, you must be a fair judge.
And that means you don't just repeatedly assert it is good and spout pure BS when its evil is exposed.

They are not pathetic BS but denying your own belief is pathetic BS thing here.
I'm not denying my own belief.
Instead your position is so utterly pathetic that you are reduced to repeating the same pathetic lie again and again, all to avoid the fact that the evil POS you worship is an evil POS.

You're talking about a God who doesn't fit the biblical God
You sure do love repeating this delusional BS don't you?
I am talking about the Biblical god, using the actions it commits in the Bible to show why it is evil.
So no, that does not mean I believe in a god or that I am talking about my non-existent god.

That is just your pathetic lie to pretend the evil POS you worship is good.

Obviously you believe in God
No, I don't.
The only obvious thing here regarding that is how pathetic your position is with you needing to repeat this pathetic lie because you can't defend the evil POS you worship.

Unless you can refer to a source outside of yourself
You mean like the Bible that I have already appealed to, to show your god is an evil POS?

It is clear that, I wouldn't be able to do this if I thought that "your God" you were talking about was "God.
This in no way supports your delusional BS that I believe in a god.
So again, if you think I do, provide a direct quote which supports that delusional BS of yours.
If you can't, then stop repeating the same pathetic lie, and instead accept the fact that we are talking about YOUR god, the evil POS you worship.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #163 on: November 07, 2022, 01:53:53 AM »
So what is your problem here?

My problem is an insane statement like this:


Thousands of people died because you clearly had the opportunity to prevent other people from getting vaccinated but you did not; Thousands of people died because you supported the lie that the world is a globe in coordination with terrorist organizations, and there must be a price for this. But when God demands that price from you, he becomes an evil God for you.
This phrase denotes an issue between God, me and jackblak and has nothing to do with you. Jackblack knows what is being said here, Because you don't know how the conversation got to that point, you cannot understand it, Devil's advocate.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #164 on: November 07, 2022, 01:57:15 AM »
This phrase denotes an issue between God, me and jackblak and has nothing to do with you.
You said it on a public forum.
Everyone is free to object to such delusional BS.
Everyone is free to call you out on it.

If you don't like that, perhaps you should stop spouting such ignorant spiteful garbage?

Everyone can understand how it got to that point.
You are throwing a little tantrum because you didn't get your way, and because someone is calling your idol evil, you need to do whatever you can to pretend that person is evil to pretend what they say doesn't matter, because you know you have no chance of actually defending the evil POS you worship.
Just like how you have repeatedly tried (in multiple threads) to pretend all REers are terrorists because ISIS uses a projection of the RE (while ignoring the fact that FEers do as well, and ignoring the vastly more obvious links).
Just like you pretended that Qantas is murdering countless people just to pretend that your FE map could actually work.

When you can't handle being wrong, you falsely accuse others of being evil, using whatever dishonest BS you can, to try and prop up your failed fantasy.
It is pathetic, and everyone is free to object to it.

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #165 on: November 07, 2022, 02:09:06 AM »
you falsely accuse others of being evil
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #166 on: November 07, 2022, 02:28:43 AM »
Are you sure they aren't here to object to your BS?
Yes. The two of you are worth only one man. He saw that you were about to lose, he took pity on you and supported you. Oh, you pitifully need his support. you are somebody hope for help from even a terrorist organization, of course, you will proudly accept that someone else helps you. Are we surprised? Of course no. But you didn't even prevent him from dying in the next 5 years with the vaccine. What a responsibility! What a love of friendship! They are devoted to you and in return they get: zero. Sure, as long as they support you, they're fine. If they die, it's fine on your part.
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You think everyone who doesn't believe your delusional BS just wants to be taught by you.
Quite opposite. After I stated my opinion on the subject, you were the one who started to write the characteristics of your dream BS God by stating that the things I wrote by quoting were not true.

You have to grow up and face the facts. Thousands of people die every day as a result of your mistakes and will continue to die. As you write these lines, you are still causing many deaths.
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And it is your god, which means your god is evil.
Nope. The opposite is true. I believe the God is good, and you believe a God, whether or not related with me bad, it means he is your God and bad, evil, tyrant; just like your own. Is it God who wants people to be vaccinated and die, or is it your God? Be honest and admit the truth to yourself. I have already know, but you need just admit it yourself.
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It isn't that I don't understand, it is that I am spouting pure BS.
Then you should stop squirting pure BS. With a truckload of neat, lonely, Christian girlfriends, you have to give up the squirt things you do alone at home.
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I have no god, so we cannot be talking about my god.
We've been talking about your God all along. Just because you think your dream God is mine or someone else's doesn't make your tyrannical, childish God someone else's God. Face the truth.
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We are talking about your god, the evil POS you worship.
So far we've always talked about your God. How true God is and how you think he is in your BS mind.
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Then justify the evil acts it has done in the fantasy world you believe in, rather than repeating the same pathetic lie that it is my god.
First you need to prove your "bad deed" slander. Unless you can prove it, it means you're talking about your own God.
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I'm not denying my own belief.
Yes you are denying your own belief. You clearly believe in a demonic childish tyrant God, but when somebody asked you say  about your belief you say "I don't believe in God" because the God you believe in is also an irresponsible God who doesn't hold you accountable for denial, just like yourself. But we'll see if this belief is true.
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Instead your position is so utterly pathetic that you are reduced to repeating the same pathetic lie again and again, all to avoid the fact that the evil POS you worship is an evil POS.
I don't think there's anything wrong with dictating the truth to you. As someone who denies it even though you believe it, you are the utterly pathetic side.
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I am talking about the Biblical god, using the actions it commits in the Bible to show why it is evil.
For example? Zero example. Your baselessly claim they are exist does not magically make your BS claims exist. Before you can demonstrate that your claims exist, you must first state them. You haven't even made a real claim yet, just BS delusions.
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So no, that does not mean I believe in a god or that I am talking about my non-existent god.
Yes it does mean you believe in God.
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That is just your pathetic lie to pretend the evil POS you worship is good.
This is not a claim, this is a fact. Because it is a "belief". I believe it is "right, good, fair". There's no way this isn't true, because it's faith, so to speak. For me not to believe it this way, I must not understand what it means to believe. Oh, you might be, but I'm not. Guess you have a brick short of a load.
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No, I don't.
Yes you do.
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The only obvious thing here regarding that is how pathetic your position is with you needing to repeat this pathetic lie because you can't defend the evil POS you worship.
The only obvious thing here regarding that is how pathetic your position is with you needing to repeat this pathetic lie because you can't defend the evil POS you worship.
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You mean like the Bible that I have already appealed to, to show your god is an evil POS?
I'm talking about the Bible, which says the exact opposite of what you're saying. The bible that denies you, the bible that defeats you. The bible where we can understand that you should be punished for not stopping other people from getting vaccinated.
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This in no way supports your delusional BS that I believe in a god.
This shows that the Gods we are talking about are not the same. But you can't even understand it. Perhaps you are unable to understand it.
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So again, if you think I do, provide a direct quote which supports that delusional BS of yours.
About what?
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If you can't, then stop repeating the same pathetic lie, and instead accept the fact that we are talking about YOUR god, the evil POS you worship.
There is no need to prove that they are different, since there is no mention of a God as you mentioned in the Bible. First you need to prove that your BS dream God is the biblical God. Not every God in your imagination has to be a biblical God, you need to understand this first. But you can't understand it. Because if you understood, you would know that you have to warn people when they get vaccinated and will die, otherwise the biblical God will punish you.

You don't care what happens to other people, what other people think. You are a selfish person who only thinks of himself. You are unvaccinated and healthy, defends the globe and earn well. But on the other hand, you don't care if other people get vaccinated and die or if terrorists who feed on the globe lie kill them. Because your God is a God who won't hold you accountable for it.

You obviously believe in God, but you believe in a selfish, tyrannical, evil, irresponsible God like yourself. This has nothing to do with the biblical God at all.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #167 on: November 07, 2022, 03:15:19 AM »

If you can't, then stop repeating the same pathetic lie, and instead accept the fact that we are talking about YOUR god, the evil POS you worship.


I believe and and saved by the blood of Jesus Christ.

One.  Where in the New Testament did Jesus preach salvation is dependent on the shape of the earth.

Two.  Your acting like a Sadducees and /or Pharisees

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Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208&version=KJV

2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.

3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.


Three.   The earth is spherical.  Your pride has made you blind and stupid in a manner that does not glorify my God or God’s creation.

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Why do you box your little g god in a fishbowl


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++++ By all all means quote the Bible you have the authority to claim I’m going to hell.  And please quote the Bible why I’m going to hell for demonstrable proof God made the earth spherical, and a universe so vast it is only exceeded by God’s mind and imagination.++++



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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #168 on: November 07, 2022, 03:19:46 AM »
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If you can't, then stop repeating the same pathetic lie, and instead accept the fact that we are talking about YOUR god, the evil POS you worship.
There is no need to prove that they are different, since there is no mention of a God as you mentioned in the Bible. First you need to prove that your BS dream God is the biblical God. Not every God in your imagination has to be a biblical God, you need to understand this first. But you can't understand it. Because if you understood, you would know that you have to warn people when they get vaccinated and will die, otherwise the biblical God will punish you.

You don't care what happens to other people, what other people think. You are a selfish person who only thinks of himself. You are unvaccinated and healthy, defends the globe and earn well. But on the other hand, you don't care if other people get vaccinated and die or if terrorists who feed on the globe lie kill them. Because your God is a God who won't hold you accountable for it.

You obviously believe in God, but you believe in a selfish, tyrannical, evil, irresponsible God like yourself. This has nothing to do with the biblical God at all.
Did you notice what you just went through?
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #169 on: November 07, 2022, 03:49:05 AM »
I don't think you understand what just happened. But hey!

Three.   The earth is spherical.  Your pride has made you blind and stupid in a manner that does not glorify my God or God’s creation.
Where in the Bible does this expression belong? You do realize that this has nothing to do with the Bible, right? When you talk about pride you meant jackblack I guess. I am calm, analytical thinker, I believe in God. Shouldn't you first try to persuade people like jackblack, an atheist, who don't believe in God? Instead to play childish games with me about the shape of the earth.

Could it be because you're blind and stupid because of your hatred? Your fake bible game is end here. Because you are not even sincere at all.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #170 on: November 07, 2022, 03:57:19 AM »
Yes. The two of you are worth only one man.
Then you shouldn't have any need to object to what he says, but there you are doing so.
You sure do love showing your own claims are false.

Quite opposite.
Then why did you falsely claim they want to take a lesson?

After I stated my opinion on the subject, you were the one who started to write the characteristics of your dream BS God by stating that the things I wrote by quoting were not true.
And again you spout pure BS.
This started with you trying to ask about vaccination in a place where it does not belong, which resulted in you claiming that I think I believe in creation.
That isn't merely you stating an opinion on the subject. That is you falsely claiming something about me.

Nope. The opposite is true. I believe the God is good
And you believing your god is good does not make it good.
Me pointing your god is evil, including explaining why doesn't make it my god.

This is not a difficult concept to understand.
But the only way you can pretend your god isn't an evil POS is by pretending anyone who says it is is actually describing their god.
Truly pathetic.

We've been talking about your God all along.
Stop repeating the same delusional BS.
I have no god, so we can't be talking about my god.
P.S. if you aren't using it as a name, god should be treated as a regular noun and not capitalised in English.

First you need to prove your "bad deed" slander.
What slander?
Pointing out the truth is not slander.
I have already justified it, and before I do so again, you need to admit we are talking about your god.
As otherwise, further discussion is pointless.

So are you willing to admit we are talking about your god, and that showing the acts of your god are evil can demonstrate your god is evil even if you believe it is good?
If not, it is pointless as you will just yet again lie and claim we are talking about my god.

You clearly believe in
Stop spouting the same pathetic BS. Like I said, prove it with a quote.

I don't think there's anything wrong with dictating the truth to you.
The problem is you spouting pure BS, with not even attempting to justify the delusional BS you spout.


This is not a claim, this is a fact.
No, it is a lie, because it is not true, you have been corrected on this lie, yet you keep on repeating it.

And it seems you trying to split up my posts to annoy me is just confusing you, unless you are using it for your own dishonesty to lie about what I have said even more.

I believe it is "right, good, fair".
And you believing it is good does not make it good.
You are like someone believing Voldemort is good, claiming to believe in the Voldemort described in the Harry Potter series, and then claiming that when someone uses Harry Potter to show Voldemort is evil that they are really describing their Voldemort, not yours.
Like I said, it is pathetic.

You believing your god is good does not make it so.

I'm talking about the Bible, which says the exact opposite of what you're saying.
The Bible supports what I am saying. It can easily be used to demonstrate the god you worship is an evil POS.

This shows that the Gods we are talking about are not the same.
No, it doesn't.
It shows that you don't want to accept the truth about the evil POS you worship.
It does not show we are talking about different gods, nor that I believe in any god.

First you need to prove that your BS dream God is the biblical God.
No, first you need to accept that we are talking about your god, the god of the bible, and then we can discuss why the bible clearly demonstrates it is an evil POS.
Until you are willing to do that it is pointless for me to show your god is evil.

So going to admit it yet?

You don't care what happens to other people
I do care what happens to other people, just not pathetic liars who promote evil tyrants and repeatedly lie about what others say.


You obviously believe in God
You are obviously trapped in a pathetic lie, because you can't handle the fact your god is an evil POS.

I am calm, analytical thinker
Then why are you acting like a pathetic child, throwing a tantrum?
Where instead of being calm and analytical and discussing the actions of your evil tyrant, you instead need to continually lie and claim I am not talking about your god.

If you were calm and analytical, you wouldn't be pulling this childish BS.
Instead, when I brought up genesis you would focus directly on that, and either admit it makes your god evil, justify how it doesn't make your god evil, or denounce genesis, claiming it is false and does not describe your god.
Instead you entirely ignore it and then just repeatedly lie about me.

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #171 on: November 07, 2022, 04:35:09 AM »
Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything.
So I'm just meant to not breathe when criminal scum is smoking and blowing it all around making it so if I breath I inhale it?

How long can you hold your breath?

Judging by your posts and how long winded they are, I'd say you talk the way you type, so yes, you may have a problem.

Smoking is legal, so a smoker is not automatically criminal scum as you put it.

How about you keep away from designated smoking areas if your sensitive little nostrils can't handle a whiff of cigarette smoke?
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #172 on: November 07, 2022, 04:50:24 AM »
Your fake bible game is end here. Because you are not even sincere at all.

I can read the Bible just fine..

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"Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
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For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
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"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
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How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
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You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
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"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces.


And very comfortable with freedom of religion and allowing people to make personal faith decisions out of respect and not judging in a way the should and is only reserved for God.

I’m not the one throwing around terms like evil.  Am I.

Lots better to give spiritual grace in the matter of spiritual matters, huh. 

Please quote and cite how your spreading the peace and grace of God.

And I have provided repeated demonstrable proofs the earth is spherical.  I’m no the one lying about my God’s creation.  Am I. 
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #173 on: November 07, 2022, 04:52:05 AM »
Then you shouldn't have any need to object to what he says, but there you are doing so.
I  write to him thinking that he also is you or your complement. There is no difference for me between him and you, or like your lawyer, I mean devil's advocate. Only I can decide what to write here. Where and from whom do you get the power to decide for me? Is that childish tyrant from the evil and also spoiled your God?
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You sure do love showing your own claims are false.
What I'm showing here is that your claims are empty, fictitious BSs.
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Then why did you falsely claim they want to take a lesson?
Cut making word salad. You want to take lessons and that's what we're doing right now. Anyone else also can come, no problem. My name is wise, I'm good enough for all of you, it's okay, just come one by one.
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This started with you trying to ask about vaccination in a place where it does not belong, which resulted in you claiming that I think I believe in creation.
Let's see what you do when you get hit in the face of a lie? This is the first post I sent here:

I hope your thinking has change after you faced your false beliefs. There are atheists among us, even there are muslims among us, like me. Flat Earth is an ideal system of thought for Christians, Muslims, jews, atheists and deists. I think the globe model is more appropriate in terms of Satanism and Magusism (the religion of sun worshipers). NASA is forcing the people of the world to worship the sun. No, why? If there's a scripture on sun worship, we can listen NASA, no problem.

There is nothing about the vaccine here. You're blatantly spitting out your lies around like a teenager boy at home alone.

This is my second post and still there is nothing about vaccines:

You believe that you revolve around the sun, don't you? Oh, worship is a symbolic thing here anyway. Isn't such a symbolic link also meaningful since the title is based on symbolic ideas about faith?

And you are going to start to licking your lies ground now:

You believe that you revolve around the sun, don't you?
Accepting reality is not worshipping the sun.

The FE isn't an ideal belief for anyone, because it isn't true.

This is how you started. Does it have anything to do with the vaccine? No. But of course, for someone like you who has no moral value in the name of principle, shamesly lying must be a moral virtue!

Everyone clearly saw who was spraying pure BS. Do you feel ashamed when the lie is hit in the face, or are you happy that you've been proven immoral?

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That isn't merely you stating an opinion on the subject. That is you falsely claiming something about me.
It's clear that the first two posts above are not about you, but that you're targeting me by taking charge of the situation. Stop shamelessly lying! I don't even count you as a human being, why should I try to address you here?


No.
For starters there is wise, who at least initially appeared to be a Muslim, not a Christian.

It's about who is targeting the other. Your first post in the thread. You are talking directly about me. You are a hypocritical liar. You must be in the head of some of the most liars in the world or something. I didn't refer to you before, and even after that I didn't refer to you. So that the saliva doesn't get on me. But you have to target me to propagate that your immoral irreligious opinion, right?

I'm still wondering with what face you're still writing after you've been so clearly proven to be lying.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #174 on: November 07, 2022, 04:53:31 AM »
Am I.
If you want to play cheap troll games, play a distance away.
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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #175 on: November 07, 2022, 05:18:12 AM »
Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything.
So I'm just meant to not breathe when criminal scum is smoking and blowing it all around making it so if I breath I inhale it?

How long can you hold your breath?

Judging by your posts and how long winded they are, I'd say you talk the way you type, so yes, you may have a problem.

Smoking is legal, so a smoker is not automatically criminal scum as you put it.

How about you keep away from designated smoking areas if your sensitive little nostrils can't handle a whiff of cigarette smoke?

Checks name.
Checks out.

Smokers are nearly as oppressed as gamers.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #176 on: November 07, 2022, 05:29:25 AM »
Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything.
So I'm just meant to not breathe when criminal scum is smoking and blowing it all around making it so if I breath I inhale it?

How long can you hold your breath?

Judging by your posts and how long winded they are, I'd say you talk the way you type, so yes, you may have a problem.

Smoking is legal, so a smoker is not automatically criminal scum as you put it.

How about you keep away from designated smoking areas if your sensitive little nostrils can't handle a whiff of cigarette smoke?

Checks name.
Checks out.

Smokers are nearly as oppressed as gamers.
It were told us that smoking prevents covid. I increased smoking during the covid process, purely for my health.

It made sense to me, as smoke suffocates viruses trying to pass through the throat as it passes through the throat. How can the virus breathe when even I can hardly breathe? Here's why Jackblack and others cursed smokers. The more we smoke, the less likely I am to die of covid, and JB and his teammates must be upset about that.
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« Reply #177 on: November 07, 2022, 05:36:31 AM »

If you want to play cheap troll games, play a distance away.

So my personal salvation through my faith in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice as the son of God is , “I’m a troll”?



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Re: Are all flat earthers also Genesis believers?
« Reply #178 on: November 07, 2022, 05:43:39 AM »
Am I.
If you want to play cheap troll games, play a distance away.

So my personal salvation through my faith in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice as the son of God is , “I’m a troll”?
No, something else. While there are plenty of atheists out there and Jesus expects you to work on it first (which makes sense), it's completely useless to write to someone like me who isn't an atheist and The mission to study and spread a knowledge the shape of the earth is nowhere in the bible., and that's what makes you a troll.

You either don't understand the bible at all or you are one of the other atheists who wrote it to mock the biblical belief. I don't know which of these are valid, but it is obvious that both are ugly behavior. Oh sure, for you to behave well, your parents and teachers must have taught you good manners. Otherwise you can not truly evalue my talkings and high possible missunderstand them.
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« Reply #179 on: November 07, 2022, 05:44:56 AM »

 it's completely useless to write to someone like me who isn't an atheist and set a mission about the shape of the world that is nowhere in the bible, and that's what makes you a troll.

Did I post the Bible doesn’t have a statement concerning the shape of the world?

Please quote and cite where I posted such a thing.

The Bible mentions and details owning slaves?  Is that false?  Does my salvation hinge on owning a slave or two?