Help with den pressure part two, molecular weight H2O vs N2 and O2

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sceptimatic

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Re: Help with den pressure part two, molecular weight H2O vs N2 and O2
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2023, 11:36:35 PM »
Water is liquid because it's under a lot of vibration /friction and frequencies.
Basically, as long as there's enough pressure and energy (agitation) of molecules then your water stays a liquid.
Increase it and it becomes a steam/gas.
Slow the molecular vibration down and it becomes a porous solid.
Why only water?
Why not all the other molecules?
Why not hydrogen? Why not oxygen?


Molecular breakdown, as I said.


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At any given temperature they are all under the same vibrations/friction/frequencies/agitation.
No they aren't.

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So why are some liquid and some gas?
Because they are not under the same pressures or vibrations or frequencies.

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Bonds are fine because they don't involve attractive/pulling forces because they don't exist.
Bonds DO involve attractive forces.
No they don't.

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You need such attractive forces to bond things together.
No you don't.
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Otherwise they are just pushed together.
That's all they are.
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So in your fantasy, bonds don't exist.
Bonds are fine as long as molecules are pushed together to create a bond.

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Re: Help with den pressure part two, molecular weight H2O vs N2 and O2
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2023, 11:38:22 PM »
Bonds are fine because they don't involve attractive/pulling forces because they don't exist.
It's all expansion to force compression. It's all push and resistance to push. That's basically it.



Hmmm…

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Detailed Description
Cohesion: Hydrogen Bonds Make Water Sticky
Water has an amazing ability to adhere (stick) to itself and to other substances. The property of cohesion describes the ability of water molecules to be attracted to other water molecules, which allows water to be a "sticky" liquid.
Hydrogen bonds are attractions of electrostatic force caused by the difference in charge between slightly positive hydrogen ions and other, slightly negative ions. In the case of water, hydrogen bonds form between neighboring hydrogen and oxygen atoms of adjacent water molecules. The attraction between individual water molecules creates a bond known as a hydrogen bond.

https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/strong-polar-bond-between-water-molecules-creates-water-cohesion#:~:text=In%20the%20case%20of%20water,known%20as%20a%20hydrogen%20bond.


Water stuck on a window?  Not running down?

Water stuck to the ceiling not dripping?

Water can stick to windows and overhangs and not fall because of “Hydrogen bonds are attractions of electrostatic force”.


Let’s take a water drop on a ceiling.  The hydrogen bond that makes water “sticky” allows it to hold on and not drip. The forces of cohesion and adhesion with the water drop and the ceiling is greater than the force of gravity on the water droplet.

  If the water drop continues to accumulate mass through say condensation, gravity
will finally have enough force to overcome the water droplet’s cohesion and adhesion with the ceiling, and the water drop will fall.

So.  In den pressure.  How can a water droplet stick to the underside of a ceiling.  Then when the water droplet is massive enough, what in den pressure overcomes the forces of cohesion and adhesion with the water droplet and ceiling to make it fall?  There is no atmosphere between the water droplet and ceiling.
Best get rid of this topic and stick to just one because this is all the same stuff.



Re: Help with den pressure part two, molecular weight H2O vs N2 and O2
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2023, 02:56:27 AM »

Best get rid of this topic and stick to just one because this is all the same stuff.

You’re a joke.

In the den pressure delusion.  Why would water molecules have adhesive and cohesive properties that allows a water drop to stick to a vertical window or hand from a ceiling without falling?  Until the water droplet accumulates enough mass to fall? 


Re: Help with den pressure part two, molecular weight H2O vs N2 and O2
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2023, 03:44:50 AM »

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To refuel the reactor, holes had to be cut in the hull.  It requires the submarine to be in dry dock for over a year.
Yes, I can read up on this stuff too.
 

How would a ballistic sub stay on patrol for six months without refueling. 

What fuel are ballistics subs using as they stay underwater for four or six months at a time? 

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sceptimatic

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Re: Help with den pressure part two, molecular weight H2O vs N2 and O2
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2023, 05:43:01 AM »

Best get rid of this topic and stick to just one because this is all the same stuff.

You’re a joke.

In the den pressure delusion.  Why would water molecules have adhesive and cohesive properties that allows a water drop to stick to a vertical window or hand from a ceiling without falling?  Until the water droplet accumulates enough mass to fall?
All this stuff is being answered in the other topic so I'm going to leave this one and I suggest you do too, unless you want to talk to yourself.

Pick one of the other topics and stick to that and it saves 3 topics being used all pertaining to the same thing.


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Re: Help with den pressure part two, molecular weight H2O vs N2 and O2
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2023, 05:44:00 AM »

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To refuel the reactor, holes had to be cut in the hull.  It requires the submarine to be in dry dock for over a year.
Yes, I can read up on this stuff too.
 

How would a ballistic sub stay on patrol for six months without refueling. 

What fuel are ballistics subs using as they stay underwater for four or six months at a time?
Ask this in the other topic.

This is my last post on this topic.

Re: Help with den pressure part two, molecular weight H2O vs N2 and O2
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2023, 06:19:04 AM »

All this stuff is being answered in the other topic so I'm going to leave this one and I suggest you do too, unless you want to talk to yourself.



What is your problem.

Can you address..

You’re a joke.

In the den pressure delusion.  Why would water molecules have adhesive and cohesive properties that allows a water drop to stick to a vertical window or hand from a ceiling without falling?  Until the water droplet accumulates enough mass to fall? 

Re: Help with den pressure part two, molecular weight H2O vs N2 and O2
« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2023, 12:58:52 PM »

 Go back to the gobstopper analogy

Got it.  The earth is spherical like a gobstopper. 

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I know the earth couldn’t be flat even in your delusion.  There wouldn’t be enough altitude to produce your imaginary helium skin where the dome meets the earth plane.

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