If the earth is flat?

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If the earth is flat?
« on: January 30, 2007, 01:04:46 PM »
Why do all the other planets look round when I have seen them through a telescope?

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GeoGuy

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2007, 01:05:32 PM »
Because the other planets are round.

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2007, 01:07:43 PM »
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Why do all the other planets look round when I have seen them through a telescope?


Really?  I thought a telescope was only capable of two-dimensional representations ...

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2007, 01:07:54 PM »
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Because the other planets are round.


Why would the other planets be round and the earth be flat.

Makes no sense to me.

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GeoGuy

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 01:08:22 PM »
Earth is not a planet.

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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 04:12:12 PM »
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Earth is not a planet.


So, what is it? A cow? An umbrella? A big ball of life floating about?
f there were an ice wall, Chuck Norris would've roundhouse kicked it by now, so there goes that theory.

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GeoGuy

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2007, 04:14:49 PM »
It is the center of the universe. And the only place we know of that supports life.

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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2007, 04:14:57 PM »
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Earth is not a planet.


So, what is it? A cow? An umbrella? A big ball of life floating about?


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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2007, 02:54:20 PM »
Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "confroom"
Why do all the other planets look round when I have seen them through a telescope?


Really?  I thought a telescope was only capable of two-dimensional representations ...


No...a telescope creates a magnified picture of what we are seeing.

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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2007, 02:55:25 PM »
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Quote from: "BOGWarrior89"
Quote from: "confroom"
Why do all the other planets look round when I have seen them through a telescope?


Really?  I thought a telescope was only capable of two-dimensional representations ...


No...a telescope creates a magnified picture of what we are seeing.


Which is still a 2D representation.

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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2007, 03:41:17 PM »
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Which is still a 2D representation.


Wrong.

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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2007, 03:50:25 PM »
Why don't you start making your posts more useful instead of just being vague, Tom?

How am I wrong? I'm using your arguments.

When I look into a telescope, because of it fitting one eyepiece, I only have one vantage point of the object. Therefore it's a 2D representation, depite a slight curved shadow.

Plus, I only see two dimensions: Height and Width. I see no "depth" with the exception of said shadow, but even you FE's have made it seem like an illusion.

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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2007, 03:54:26 PM »
Using just your eyes, without a telescope, light is being projected onto the back of your retina. Wouldn't you consider that to be a "2D image" too? The image your retina sees only has a hight and width after all.

By using your logic it's impossible to see in three dimensions.

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2007, 03:55:39 PM »
Quote from: "Tom Bishop"
Using just your eyes, without a telescope, light is being projected onto the back of your retina. Wouldn't you consider that to be a "2D image" too? The image your retina sees only has a hight and width after all.

By using your logic it's impossible to see in three dimensions.


Uh, it is ...

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2007, 03:58:54 PM »
I agree with BOG, it is impossible to see 3 dimensions.

But he forgot to add a vital point.

We have two eyes, which helps see depth.

Thats why in my telescope model, I clearly mentioned a single, not dual, eye piece.

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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2007, 03:59:05 PM »
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Uh, it is ...


Are you telling me that it's impossible to see in three dimensions?

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I agree with BOG, it is impossible to see 3 dimensions.

But he forgot to add a vita point.

We have two eyes, which helps see depth.

Thats why in my telescope model, I clearly mentioned a single, not dual, eye piece.


That's funny. I'm still able to see objects in three dimensions with one eye closed.

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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2007, 04:01:47 PM »
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Uh, it is ...


Are you telling me that it's impossible to see in three dimensions?


Somewhat; it is impossible to see a three-dimensional object via a two-dimensional representation.

Draw a cube on a piece of paper.  Does it have three dimensions or two dimensions?

Three-dimensional sight is all about perspective and light.  I once "ran down" a hallway that didn't exist.  It was a painting, and I was all on the floor.

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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2007, 04:02:50 PM »
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Uh, it is ...


Are you telling me that it's impossible to see in three dimensions?

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I agree with BOG, it is impossible to see 3 dimensions.

But he forgot to add a vita point.

We have two eyes, which helps see depth.

Thats why in my telescope model, I clearly mentioned a single, not dual, eye piece.


That's funny. I'm still able to see objects in three dimensions with one eye closed.


If someone throws a ball at you when you have your eye closed, it'll hit you, for you have minute depth perception.  Trust me, it hit me (ironically) in the eye.

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« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2007, 07:04:14 PM »
all matter is 3d.... alllllllll of it lol

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« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2007, 07:19:52 PM »
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Uh, it is ...


Are you telling me that it's impossible to see in three dimensions?


Somewhat; it is impossible to see a three-dimensional object via a two-dimensional representation.

Draw a cube on a piece of paper.  Does it have three dimensions or two dimensions?

Three-dimensional sight is all about perspective and light.  I once "ran down" a hallway that didn't exist.  It was a painting, and I was all on the floor.


Wow, I'm going to have to actually AGREE with BOG on this.
wow...

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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2007, 08:23:19 PM »
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Uh, it is ...


Are you telling me that it's impossible to see in three dimensions?


Somewhat; it is impossible to see a three-dimensional object via a two-dimensional representation.

Draw a cube on a piece of paper.  Does it have three dimensions or two dimensions?

Three-dimensional sight is all about perspective and light.  I once "ran down" a hallway that didn't exist.  It was a painting, and I was all on the floor.


Wow, I'm going to have to actually AGREE with BOG on this.
wow...


And I still have no idea why my high school has a "fake" hallway anyway.  Maybe they wanted it to look expensive .

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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2007, 08:30:53 PM »
And I am even more surprised that you fell for it.

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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2007, 08:33:37 PM »
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And I am even more surprised that you fell for it.


Well, I was running away from someone ... it was the time for quick, irrational decisions.

Plus, I'm the only person that ever did it, too ... and people found that to be ironic, considering a) how often they told me that, and b) how much more intelligent they think I am.

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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2007, 08:35:28 PM »
Reason "B" was why I was surprised.

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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2007, 08:36:37 PM »
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Reason "B" was why I was surprised.


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« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2007, 09:00:16 PM »
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Uh, it is ...


Are you telling me that it's impossible to see in three dimensions?

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I agree with BOG, it is impossible to see 3 dimensions.

But he forgot to add a vita point.

We have two eyes, which helps see depth.

Thats why in my telescope model, I clearly mentioned a single, not dual, eye piece.


That's funny. I'm still able to see objects in three dimensions with one eye closed.


That's impossible, and I can absolutely prove it, if you take the time to run 1 of 2 tests.  test 1, get color glasses and look at one of those 3-d images.  test 2, look at a good, professional hologram.  with artificial 3-d objects, closing one eye ruins the image.  In the real world, you have 2 eyes open most of the time, so when yo close one eye, your brain more or less makes up the rest.  This is coming, of course, from me, who, ironically, can't see in 3-d anyhow...

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il0vepez

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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2007, 08:39:11 PM »
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Uh, it is ...


Are you telling me that it's impossible to see in three dimensions?

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I agree with BOG, it is impossible to see 3 dimensions.

But he forgot to add a vita point.

We have two eyes, which helps see depth.

Thats why in my telescope model, I clearly mentioned a single, not dual, eye piece.


That's funny. I'm still able to see objects in three dimensions with one eye closed.


Seeing in three dimensions is not possible over about ten feet.  After that, the left eye and the right eye percieve the same image, and the brain sees a 2D world.  You can demonstrate this easily, sit in a rolling chair and stair at a nearby object.  Now, start alternating closing of the left and right eye.  You will see the image of the nearby object shift, from left to right.  Now, start rolling backwards.  After a certain distance, the object will appear the same with both eyes.

Dual eyepieces will help depth perception.  To quantify this, perform the same experiment.  You may need a rolling car and a friend instead of a chair.

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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2007, 03:34:49 PM »
Okay, so the planets look 2 dimensional through a telescope but we can observe them rotating on an axis. Logical conclusion is that they are spherical.

My question is this: If the Sun really worked the way you say it does here, then how can we even see the other planets?  :roll:

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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2007, 05:15:52 PM »
Has anyone else noticed that RE'ers and FE'ers seem to have switched sides for a second?

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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2007, 05:18:31 PM »
Shhhhh...