Do coconuts cause heart disease?

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Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« on: April 24, 2022, 05:06:58 PM »
On the other forum, I got into a discussion whether coconuts cause heart disease: https://atheistforums.org/thread-64001.html

To me it seems obvious it is reasonable to believe they do. While the lauric acid in them does indeed raise HDL, there is little reason to believe HDL protects against heart disease, much less that it protects so much that it counter-acts the increase in LDL that coconuts do. Nevertheless, people on that forum seem to be convinced it is not reasonable to believe coconuts cause heart disease. What do you think?
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2022, 05:14:56 PM »
I'll do some research and get back to you.

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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2022, 05:37:37 PM »
Indonesia and the Philippines consume the most coconut. Do they have higher heart disease rates than other places? 
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2022, 07:48:30 PM »
The Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Americans.
The Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Americans.
The Japanese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Americans.
The French drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Americans.
The Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Americans.
CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2022, 08:49:37 PM »
Coconuts donít exist.
"Corn grows without tossing a girl down the well?"
"Oh, that makes sense." . . . . .
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2022, 01:34:29 AM »
Coconuts donít exist.
Then what is the thing named coconut that you can buy in a supermarket? I assume you are just trolling here.
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2022, 02:38:45 AM »
In the dropping dead from heart attack stakes it would seem living in the band from North Africa, through the middle East to the former USSR, gives you the greatest chance of not seeing grandchildren, with having lived under the hammer and sickle the most likely to see you expire face down in your porridge.

The US is surprisingly low on the danger list (139th), a shock considering how many Yanks qualify for their own zip-code.

The two coconut guzzlers are Sri-Lanka and Papua New Guinea (94 & 65 respectively for heart attacks) mid table where most of the nations fond of them reside.

So, heart disease and coconuts donít seem to corollate, as to what does, fewer hours of TV watched is a strange contender, amount of world heritage sites in your country (contra-indicator) or the more perceived corruption and fear of your government, all are.
I would imagine that a good quality sitcom, a visit to a nice castle or garden and not considering that the knock on the door could be the thought police coming for your fingernails would all lower the stress on your heart, but I suspect there is probably more to it than that.
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2022, 02:53:12 AM »
Then what is the thing named coconut that you can buy in a supermarket?

The stuff in cans?  Yeah, I've seen that.

Are you talking about this?



Or if you want the organic version I think this is better.


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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2022, 03:24:47 AM »
Then what is the thing named coconut that you can buy in a supermarket?

The stuff in cans?  Yeah, I've seen that.

Are you talking about this?



Or if you want the organic version I think this is better.


I was referring to both. Why would organic be healthier?
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2022, 03:26:47 AM »
Then what is the thing named coconut that you can buy in a supermarket?

The stuff in cans?  Yeah, I've seen that.

Are you talking about this?



Or if you want the organic version I think this is better.


I was referring to both. Why would organic be healthier?

Less metal.

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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2022, 03:37:35 AM »
Coconuts are not correlated with heart disease but they are responsible for more fatalities than sharks and drinking enough coconut water can cause hyperkalemia and cause a heart attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_coconut

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Following a 1984 study on "Injuries Due to Falling Coconuts", exaggerated claims spread concerning the number of deaths by falling coconuts. Falling coconuts, according to urban legend, kill a few people a year. This legend gained momentum after the 2002 work of a noted expert on shark attacks was characterized as saying that falling coconuts kill 150 people each year worldwide. This statistic has often been contrasted with the number of shark-caused deaths per year, which is around five.[2]

Concern about the risk of fatality due to falling coconuts led local officials in Queensland, Australia, to remove coconut trees from beaches in 2002. One newspaper dubbed coconuts "the killer fruit".[3] Historical reports of actual death by coconut nonetheless date back to the 1770s.[4]

Another way to "die by coconut" is to suffer sudden cardiac death as a result of hyperkalemia, after consuming moderate to large quantities of coconut water, due to the high levels of potassium in coconut water.[5]

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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2022, 11:43:19 AM »
Coconuts donít exist.
Then what is the thing named coconut that you can buy in a supermarket? I assume you are just trolling here.

What is the thing called "gun" that you can buy at a gun store?
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2022, 12:48:48 PM »
Coconuts donít exist.
Then what is the thing named coconut that you can buy in a supermarket? I assume you are just trolling here.

What is the thing called "gun" that you can buy at a gun store?

Probably one of these.



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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2022, 09:17:26 PM »

Probably one of these.

       
How many realize how awesome that is?


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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2022, 09:50:40 PM »

Probably one of these.

       
How many realize how awesome that is?

I'm not one of them  :'(

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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2022, 10:25:41 PM »

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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2022, 02:40:04 AM »

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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2022, 05:15:27 AM »

Probably one of these.

       
How many realize how awesome that is?

It's my favorite gun. ;D

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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2022, 12:22:15 PM »
John Conway gave the world an incredible gift with Game of Life. Also, I had no idea coconuts were deadlier to people than sharks!

Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2022, 12:30:18 PM »
Coconuts donít exist.
Then what is the thing named coconut that you can buy in a supermarket? I assume you are just trolling here.

What is the thing called "gun" that you can buy at a gun store?


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because i'm too wussy for a big gun
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2022, 12:34:11 PM »

Probably one of these.

       
How many realize how awesome that is?

It's my favorite gun. ;D

is this an infinite loop that looks like two guys shooting into each other and their ejactions collide and fall down and to the right?
that's why it's awesome?

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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2022, 01:04:15 PM »
He's already got a gun thread you guys, let's keep this focused on the noble, incredible, edible, deadly, possibly disease-causing coconut.

Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2022, 02:11:07 PM »
yes boss

back on topic

if the linking idea to heart disease is cholesterol, its not real
it's BS from a BS study and easy money by big pharma.

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being fat


https://www.tvo.org/video/documentaries/cholesterol-the-great-bluff


ohooo
looks liek big pharma took it odwn.


https://vimeo.com/256841424

https://www.icarusfilms.com/if-chole#:~:text=CHOLESTEROL%2C%20THE%20GREAT%20BLUFF%20convincingly,entrenched%20interests%2C%20and%20pharmaceutical%20profits.

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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2022, 11:45:08 PM »

Probably one of these.

       
How many realize how awesome that is?

It's my favorite gun. ;D

is this an infinite loop that looks like two guys shooting into each other and their ejactions collide and fall down and to the right?
that's why it's awesome?
Once again clueless.   
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2022, 02:14:11 AM »
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Re: Do coconuts cause heart disease?
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2022, 02:18:58 AM »
I made the cross-idamond repeater my first try

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