heads up to newcomers

I have been around here coming and going for a few years. if you are brand new, you should know that very few of these people, from my experience, are "flat earthers". Some of them maybe "fe", just playing global advocate for the "re" (round earth) side or something. But my experience, in posting on all types of nonconventional / non textbook ideas and topics, most of them seem to nay say anything other than what is in a text book, or leading edge NASA type  mainstream theories.

There are some who post on out of the box ideas and flat earth stuff, but most of the main posters, including most of the moderators from what i understand are not flat earth believers, nor post anything pro flat earth....you be the judge.

Edit april 22 - I don't hink there is anything wrong with this website and i wasn;t calling on anyone to judge the website (probably used the wrong word), I think the idea is great, it is just being overrun by globe believers in my opinion. Maybe should've been more clear on that.

Edit may 5 - you can see too far and the earth never  drops away like the "RE" theory states (sometimes drops a little bit due to refraction or something similar?/ theground simlpy ramps up to the  horizon alittle to obscure bottoms of distant objects but nowhere near the predicted curvature?)

I have been around here coming and going for a few years. if you are brand new, you should know that very few of these people, from my experience, are "flat earthers". Some of them maybe "fe", just playing global advocate for the "re" (round earth) side or something. But my experience, in posting on all types of nonconventional / non textbook ideas and topics, most of them seem to nay say anything other than what is in a text book, or leading edge NASA type  mainstream theories.

There are some who post on out of the box ideas and flat earth stuff, but most of themainposters, includiong most of the moderators from what i understand arenot flat earth believers, nor post anything pro flat earth....you be the judge.

And there are others that answer flat earther questions in earnest only to have the flat earther say 'yeah, nah'

So it works both ways

Do you want an ideological echo chamber where everyone just agrees with whatever nonsense is spouted, or do you want to determine the truth?

The truth is that Earth is flat. Many people here are just tired of explaining to round earthers that how Earth is being flat, as many questions has been asked many times.

The truth is that Earth is flat. Many people here are just tired of explaining to round earthers that how Earth is being flat, as many questions has been asked many times.

What are your thoughts on the DET?

What is DET?

The truth is that Earth is flat.

The truth is that all the available evidence indicates Earth is round, with FEers needing to reject so much it isn't funny.

The roundest thing on this board are the arguments.

The truth is that Earth is flat. Many people here are just tired of explaining to round earthers that how Earth is being flat,

OK just present me with some compelling evidence that I have been mistaken all my life. And I mean something a bit more substantial than just what it says in the bible.

How is it that there is a north and south celestial pole where the stars rotate anti-clockwise around the NCP and clockwise around the SCP?  How could you even achieve both an NCP and an SCP if we lived on a flat Earth. What is that curved shadow that I always observe going across the Moons disk during a lunar eclipse? Because if the Earth were flat then it surely couldn't be the Earth. If so then what else could it possibly be?

I have never seen the South celestial pole. How many people have actually seen it?
As for the lunar eclipse, people suggest that it could be a shadow object located between the sun and the moon. And it’s occurrence is predicted extrapolating their motions and observing patterns in the past.

I have never seen the South celestial pole. How many people have actually seen it?
As for the lunar eclipse, people suggest that it could be a shadow object located between the sun and the moon. And it’s occurrence is predicted extrapolating their motions and observing patterns in the past.

Everyone in the southern hemisphere.

People also suggest that leprechauns hide gold at the end of a rainbows. 

I have never seen the South celestial pole. How many people have actually seen it?
As for the lunar eclipse, people suggest that it could be a shadow object located between the sun and the moon. And it’s occurrence is predicted extrapolating their motions and observing patterns in the past.

Australia is starting to relax its border controls.  You could go there and stay up one night watching the stars go round the other way. 

Just don’t touch anything with 8 legs or no legs.

Quote from: Flatearthreign on February 12, 2022, 06:47:42 AM

I have never seen the South celestial pole. How many people have actually seen it?
As for the lunar eclipse, people suggest that it could be a shadow object located between the sun and the moon. And it’s occurrence is predicted extrapolating their motions and observing patterns in the past.

Australia is starting to relax its border controls.  You could go there and stay up one night watching the stars go round the other way. 

Just don’t touch anything with 8 legs or no legs.

Don't forget about the dingoes.

I have been around here coming and going for a few years. if you are brand new, you should know that very few of these people, from my experience, are "flat earthers". Some of them maybe "fe", just playing global advocate for the "re" (round earth) side or something. But my experience, in posting on all types of nonconventional / non textbook ideas and topics, most of them seem to nay say anything other than what is in a text book, or leading edge NASA type  mainstream theories.

There are some who post on out of the box ideas and flat earth stuff, but most of themainposters, includiong most of the moderators from what i understand arenot flat earth believers, nor post anything pro flat earth....you be the judge.

You must only be talking about the general board? As has been stated, here you will find very well rounded arguments that tend to naturally flatten, nonsensical arguments. The problem for any excitable new flat earther is, these arguments are evidence based.

But, for the aspiring new flat earther, the believers only section contains no such factual concerns or naysayers. There, the true flat earthers can settle in and indulge in  topics surrounded by confirmation bias and ignorant bliss, to their heart's content. They can mingle with other like minded true flat earthers, in a safe space.

Why is the flat earth believers only section, not your happy place, faded Mike?

I have never seen the South celestial pole. How many people have actually seen it?

A very large number of people.

You may as well reject the existence of the entire southern hemisphere.
If you need to reject so much, then your nonsense can't be true.

If you want to claim it is fake, in a rational manner, you can go to the south and then film the sky. Show that the sky in the south doesn't appear to rotate around a point due south.

For bonus points, get a mount for the camera and point it due south, and at an angle equal to the latitude.

But we also see the effects with the sun during the southern summer, where the sun rises south of east and sets south of west, and you get more daylight hours the further south you go.
Those points make no sense at all with the common NP centred FE "model".

As for the lunar eclipse, people suggest that it could be a shadow object located between the sun and the moon.

A shadow object that is never observed. How strange.
And which just causes more problems as it means that the moon needs to be illuminated by the sun.
While that works fine for the RE model, it doesn't for the FE model which claims the sun and moon are both above Earth.

Why don't you try drawing the configuration of the Sun-Earth-Moon-SHADOW system, showing the location of each and how everywhere on Earth sees the same face of the moon, where it is a full moon just before and after the eclipse, with the shadow object managing to block out the entire face of the moon, with the possibility of a partial and total lunar eclipse.

OP is right.  I looked for the website 'mission statement', nothing. 
 
This is a Protect the Globe Earth Society here. 

What kind of mission statement do you think a forum needs?

I have never seen the South celestial pole. How many people have actually seen it?

Nor have I directly because I have never been south of the equator. And nor have you if you have never seen it. But I have family in Australia and S Africa and both have sent me photos of the SCP.  Are we really going to play the game of you need to actually see it to accept that it exists?

Here is a kink to the manual for setting up the popular HEQ5 and EQ6 mounts from Skywatcher. Sold the world over.  Page 14 covers polar alignment and includes mention of the procedure to follow for the setting up in the southern hemisphere at the bottom of the page. Why would they need to include that if there was no such thing as a south celestial pole?

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/654887/Sky-Watcher-Eq6.html?page=14#manual

As for the lunar eclipse, people suggest that it could be a shadow object located between the sun and the moon. And it’s occurrence is predicted extrapolating their motions and observing patterns in the past.

Who exactly do you mean by 'people'?  The only people who would suggest anything like that is those who believe the Earth is flat so have to make up an alternative explanation for something which is otherwise perfectly explained. It's the Earth casting a shadow on the Moon. And amazingly that shadow happens to be curved! Could that possibly be evidence that the Earth is actually round!?!

OP is right.  I looked for the website 'mission statement', nothing. 
 
This is a Protect the Globe Earth Society here.

You didn't look very well then.
Took me all of 5 seconds:

The mission of the Flat Earth Society is to promote and initiate discussion of Flat Earth theory as well as archive Flat Earth literature. Our forums act as a venue to encourage free thinking and debate.

https://theflatearthsociety.org/home/index.php/about-the-society

Note: free thinking and discussion of FE "theory" also includes discussion of why it is wrong.

I found this on the 'About' page of the Website...

Come join us in our forums and get started learning about the greatest lie ever told.

What exactly is the 'lie' here given that all the evidence points to the Earth not being flat?

I found this on the 'About' page of the Website...

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Come join us in our forums and get started learning about the greatest lie ever told.

What exactly is the 'lie' here given that all the evidence points to the Earth not being flat?

The greatest lie ever told?  I have a few canidates.

"We care about our customers."

"The check is in the mail."

"I'll still respect you in the morning."

"I swear this has never happened to me before."

"That's not lipstick."

The start of what could be quite an extensive list of lies I fear!  I notice you haven't included the Earth being round anywhere there?  Is that really a lie???

The start of what could be quite an extensive list of lies I fear!  I notice you haven't included the Earth being round anywhere there?  Is that really a lie???

Scientists saying the Earth is a sphere is a dirty, filthy, unclean, seditious, blasphemous, immoral lie. They know it's really an oblate spheroid. 

Quote from: Unconvinced on February 12, 2022, 11:43:37 AM

Quote from: Flatearthreign on February 12, 2022, 06:47:42 AM

I have never seen the South celestial pole. How many people have actually seen it?
As for the lunar eclipse, people suggest that it could be a shadow object located between the sun and the moon. And it’s occurrence is predicted extrapolating their motions and observing patterns in the past.

Australia is starting to relax its border controls.  You could go there and stay up one night watching the stars go round the other way. 

Just don’t touch anything with 8 legs or no legs.

Don't forget about the dingoes.

And the Roos, they can get ornery.  So nothing with 8, 4 2, or zero legs.  Oh and careful of some of the plantlife there too.

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 11:53:14 AM

Quote from: Unconvinced on February 12, 2022, 11:43:37 AM

Quote from: Flatearthreign on February 12, 2022, 06:47:42 AM

I have never seen the South celestial pole. How many people have actually seen it?
As for the lunar eclipse, people suggest that it could be a shadow object located between the sun and the moon. And it’s occurrence is predicted extrapolating their motions and observing patterns in the past.

Australia is starting to relax its border controls.  You could go there and stay up one night watching the stars go round the other way. 

Just don’t touch anything with 8 legs or no legs.

Don't forget about the dingoes.

And the Roos, they can get ornery.  So nothing with 8, 4 2, or zero legs.  Oh and careful of some of the plantlife there too.

What about animals with -1 legs?

Quote from: Mikey T. on February 13, 2022, 05:58:25 AM

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 11:53:14 AM

Quote from: Unconvinced on February 12, 2022, 11:43:37 AM

Quote from: Flatearthreign on February 12, 2022, 06:47:42 AM

I have never seen the South celestial pole. How many people have actually seen it?
As for the lunar eclipse, people suggest that it could be a shadow object located between the sun and the moon. And it’s occurrence is predicted extrapolating their motions and observing patterns in the past.

Australia is starting to relax its border controls.  You could go there and stay up one night watching the stars go round the other way. 

Just don’t touch anything with 8 legs or no legs.

Don't forget about the dingoes.

And the Roos, they can get ornery.  So nothing with 8, 4 2, or zero legs.  Oh and careful of some of the plantlife there too.

What about animals with -1 legs?

You may have to provide a photo of that so we can make a proper PSA for FE skeptics who want to test their ideas... wait sorry I forgot. 

I don't hink thereis anything wrong with this website and i wasn;t calling on anyone to judge the website (probably used the wrong word), I think the idea is great, it is just being overrun by globe believers in my opinion. Maybe should've been more clear on that.

It is my opinion that any lie, cover up , widespread misconception, or what ever of this caliber would obviously have a whole team of people on here covering it up, which i think i have seen evidence of that here. Just look up globe earth math proof. For me, using the videos search of duck duck go instead of youtube, i get all of the evidence based flat earth videos i couldn't find by searching for the words that spell flat earth evidence. I think  some thing is being hidden from our eyes....

I don't hink thereis anything wrong with this website and i wasn;t calling on anyone to judge the website (probably used the wrong word), I think the idea is great, it is just being overrun by globe believers in my opinion. Maybe should've been more clear on that.

It is my opinion that any lie, cover up , widespread misconception, or what ever of this caliber would obviously have a whole team of people on here covering it up, which i think i have seen evidence of that here. Just look up globe earth math proof. For me, using the videos search of duck duck go instead of youtube, i get all of the evidence based flat earth videos i couldn't find by searching for the words that spell flat earth evidence. I think  some thing is being hidden from our eyes....

If you think something is hidden from our eyes, why can your eyes find what you're looking for through a fairly common search engine?

Not to mention one of the recent videos you found with your eyes was a really detailed and comprehensive utter debunk of a flat earth video where the original poster claimed he could see a peak on the Baja peninsula and it was actually shown to be a much closer peak in Texas. Maybe you should be more discerning about what you find with your eyes rather than knee-jerk to a default narrative of, "...people are hiding things from me..."

Lastly, what evidence of a "cover-up" have you seen here? Kind of a high charge without providing evidence, wouldn't you say?

I don't hink thereis anything wrong with this website and i wasn;t calling on anyone to judge the website (probably used the wrong word), I think the idea is great, it is just being overrun by globe believers in my opinion. Maybe should've been more clear on that.

Saying it is being overrun implies that it is bad.

It is my opinion that any lie, cover up , widespread misconception, or what ever of this caliber would obviously have a whole team of people on here covering it up, which i think i have seen evidence of that here.

No, you haven't. Instead you have seen people calling out BS.
But because you want to believe that BS, you just accuse the REers of lying, and now of being part of a massive global conspiracy.

Just look up globe earth math proof. For me, using the videos search of duck duck go instead of youtube, i get all of the evidence based flat earth videos i couldn't find by searching for the words that spell flat earth evidence. I think  some thing is being hidden from our eyes....

Yet you can't provide a single video which actually supports a FE.

Instead among the crap you have provided there are outright lies to pretend FE is supported while an honest analysis refutes the FE, and you even provided a video which refutes the claims of a FE.
The latter shows you aren't even bothering to watch all the crap you provide which you think supports a FE.
Instead you are just looking for anything which you can cling to to pretend the FE is justified.

Nothing is being hidden from your eyes, you are just refusing to look because you don't like reality.

I think the idea is great, it is just being overrun by globe believers in my opinion.

Slight correction to that Faded. There is nothing to believe about it when it comes to Earth being a globe. For us it is more of a case of knowing it is a globe. That was established long before this or any other 'flat Earth' website, or indeed the Internet as a whole was set up.

Obviously there will always be groups of people on the planet who like to think differently about something or the other. I realise that. Those people tend also to overlook the evidence presented to them in favour of maintaining their beliefs based on whatever their own mindset tells them.

Anyway that's all I will say about it. Good luck with your own personal battle to find out or decide whatever you believe to be the truth.