What do you think about gun control laws?

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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #600 on: January 06, 2025, 03:27:50 PM »
What do you guys think about the protests in Podgorica, after the recent mass shooting in near-by Cetinje? I am not sure what those protesters want. What could have the Montenegrian government done to prevent the mass shooting? The gun control laws in Montenegro are already draconic, aren't they?

By the way, guys, what do you think the name "Cetinje" means? I advocate the theory that Cetinje and Cetina and similar toponyms come from the Illyrian word for horse, *kent.

And what do you think, what does Birziminium, the ancient name for Podgorica, mean? Mainstream linguistics thinks that it comes from *bhergjh (hill), but, if my theories about the Illyrian language are correct (and Illyrian is a centum language), then that etymology is impossible.
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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #601 on: January 06, 2025, 04:39:56 PM »
Whats your point to change subject?




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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #602 on: January 07, 2025, 03:07:21 AM »
Whats your point to change subject?





Because this whole discussion is getting ridiculous. You guys aren't giving me a good explanation as to how can all the Gary-Kleck-like studies give results that are of the wrong order of magnitude. A good explanation would be something along the lines of: "Here is a study that shows that telescoping can increase the apparent incidence of stressful events, such as DGUs, by 800%.". What you are giving me is so far from that, that it's not even worth discussing.

And, similarly, a good explanation of how my paper Etimologija Karašica can be wrong would be something along the lines of: "Here is a study showing that nouns in the Croatian language have a significantly lower collision entropy than the rest of the words in the Aspell word-list.", not the word-salads people usually give.
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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #603 on: January 07, 2025, 06:42:48 AM »



the title says it all:  extreme overestimates

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Maybe you missed it.
This guy gives you the why in detail.

You being very flatearthy here in msgically wsving away dixvussion you dont want to address.



Simply , and for the 3rd time now- as per survey guideline - they cherry picked respindents from lower economic areas and males that were more biased towards tough on crime (aka batman mentality).

And you somehow dont think the big gun is immune to big corp practices is luaghable.
They who gave us great lines like
- harden schools
- good guys
- hammers kill more peiole
- blocking of studies
- and trump within 24hrs of srating nra isnt in his pokcet, flips.



Youre right
At this point youve shown youreself to be completely dishonest incapable of discusssion.
The only thing left to do is insult your intelligence openly and loudly.

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FlatAssembler

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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #604 on: January 07, 2025, 10:16:50 AM »



the title says it all:  extreme overestimates

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Maybe you missed it.
This guy gives you the why in detail.

You being very flatearthy here in msgically wsving away dixvussion you dont want to address.



Simply , and for the 3rd time now- as per survey guideline - they cherry picked respindents from lower economic areas and males that were more biased towards tough on crime (aka batman mentality).

And you somehow dont think the big gun is immune to big corp practices is luaghable.
They who gave us great lines like
- harden schools
- good guys
- hammers kill more peiole
- blocking of studies
- and trump within 24hrs of srating nra isnt in his pokcet, flips.



Youre right
At this point youve shown youreself to be completely dishonest incapable of discusssion.
The only thing left to do is insult your intelligence openly and loudly.

From my perspective, you sound like creationists when they point to some cases where fraud in the fossils was discovered or like global warming deniers when they point to some cases where temperature measuring station turned out to be low-quality.

Maybe you can dismiss the Gary Kleck study with the evidence of intentional oversampling (I don't think you can, but let's say you can.), you don't get to dismiss the dozens of other Gary-Kleck-like studies that use a slightly different methodology with that evidence.
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Themightykabool

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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #605 on: January 07, 2025, 11:33:56 AM »
spectacular
i am definitely NOT doing that.
this isn't some cases, it's the entire method of finding a sample.

why do you think the concern about sampling method, as mentioned 4th time now, is not wrong.
1 call only poor people.
2 talk to mostly men.
3 talk to those who show propensity to react with a firearm without dicerning warrant for reaction or overreaction ("i feared for my life").



so why wouldn't all klecks or surveys that follow such a formula generate the same results?
are you stupid?
you sound stupid.
say another stupid thing.




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Themightykabool

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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #606 on: April 03, 2025, 06:58:17 AM »
Oh look

Kleck surveyee filmed in action.


Take note the comment section


https://youtube.com/shorts/Yp28G3sHdbg?si=Nz68G1l3lloxiJme

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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #607 on: September 19, 2025, 04:48:05 AM »
1. A civil society without excess numbers of guns is better than one with, all things being equal.

2. Guns generally last a reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally long time, 100 years is well possible.

3. The US is a special case, many unusual factors come together.
3a. The US is already flooded with both legally and illegally owned guns.
3b. The US is a multicultural and thus low-trust society.
3c. The US is founded on the principle of suspicion of government, unlike e.g. Europe where the corresponding principle is arguably obedience to government. Therefore the public feel they need guns to protect themselves from gov, and gov remains corrupt bc it is almost in the title.
3d. The casual use of guns in US crime is already a well-established principle, including in home invasions.
3e. The mentally ill are 'kept' on the street in the US as opposed to in institutions. A generalization, fight me.

4. Effective gun confiscation in the US is an impossibility. The best that could be hoped for is to take away all legally owned guns, leaving criminals with all the guns and law abiding citizens defenceless. Not a satisfactory outcome.

5. Tightening gun legislation in the US is mostly pointless bc as it is, any malcontent who wants a gun is going to be able to get a gun, laws or no laws.

Am I missing something?

Some problems are without solution.

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Themightykabool

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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #608 on: September 19, 2025, 09:53:37 AM »
old NRA talking points taste best when shat out by young podcasters.

you are missing things.
a lot of things.


1. A civil society without excess numbers of guns is better than one with, all things being equal.


2. Guns generally last a reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally long time, 100 years is well possible.
bullets.
BULLETS.
guns without bullets aren't very useful.
just like a mind without critical thinking skills...


3. The US is a special case, many unusual factors come together.
3a. The US is already flooded with both legally and illegally owned guns.
flooded by who?
who makes the guns?
who makes the guns and who makes the loopholes?
are you stupid? - yes. yes you are.


3b. The US is a multicultural and thus low-trust society.
that lowtrust perpetuated by fearstoked media and leadership.


3c. The US is founded on the principle of suspicion of government, unlike e.g. Europe where the corresponding principle is arguably obedience to government. Therefore the public feel they need guns to protect themselves from gov, and gov remains corrupt bc it is almost in the title.
it IS in the "title"
"security of the State" against the Fed.
not the 2008 version.


3d. The casual use of guns in US crime is already a well-established principle, including in home invasions.
that is irrelevant.
if you want to plead for real stats, use grocery store hold ups


3e. The mentally ill are 'kept' on the street in the US as opposed to in institutions. A generalization, fight me.
that is irrelevant to guns unless you need a gun to shoot the mentally ill.

what is relevant is why it's not on the gun application.
and has been kept off the application.
and redflag are being fought against.
and vouching is not on the application.

so you're wrong - twice.
congrats on making a double wrong statement.





4. Effective gun confiscation in the US is an impossibility. The best that could be hoped for is to take away all legally owned guns, leaving criminals with all the guns and law abiding citizens defenceless. Not a satisfactory outcome.
kirk could've had 2guns on each hip.
without a plated vest it does nothing.
you walk around vested?

also, BULLLETS.

alos also, the outcome is only in your opinion.
if the State wants you to have defense, it's the State's rights, not the Fed.



5. Tightening gun legislation in the US is mostly pointless bc as it is, any malcontent who wants a gun is going to be able to get a gun, laws or no laws.
this is just repetition of #2, #3abcde, #4.

"it's pointless so do nothing."
so's abortion.
so's illegal immigration.
so's drug use.
so's speech.
so's transwashroom.
so's pedo's.
so's trump grabbing pussy.





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Themightykabool

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Re: What do you think about gun control laws?
« Reply #609 on: September 19, 2025, 09:54:47 AM »
spectacular
i am definitely NOT doing that.
this isn't some cases, it's the entire method of finding a sample.

why do you think the concern about sampling method, as mentioned 4th time now, is not wrong.
1 call only poor people.
2 talk to mostly men.
3 talk to those who show propensity to react with a firearm without dicerning warrant for reaction or overreaction ("i feared for my life").



so why wouldn't all klecks or surveys that follow such a formula generate the same results?
are you stupid?
you sound stupid.
say another stupid thing.







oh look
kleck-method-dumb was ignored.
how convenient.

pos.