What do you think about gun control laws?

What if the marauders come bearing coconuts to enjoy with the limes?

Throw in some tequila and perhaps it would be a peaceful and joyous encounter. However, too many coconut margaritas, gunplay may ensue.

Too many coconut margaritas and they'll be too busy on the toilet with the squits for gunplay.

I have never had a coconut margarita, it sound delicious. Now I'm gonna need some palm tree stickers for people trying to take my margarita.

Don't worry, my AR is too heavy for me to hold it long enough to mow down more than 5 or 6 people.

That's why you spring for the bipod.

It would seem that the reason we do not need beautifully decorated firearms in the UK is that we do not have cocktail trees that need defending, the answer to America’s gun problem may lie in this direction.

A sane methodology would be cocktail trees for all, but as this smacks of socialism I doubt it would fly.

I do have a hazelnut tree, but not being a cocktail expert am unaware of any that contain hazelnuts, in any case the bastard squirrels eat them all before they are ripe, an AR15 would sort that I suppose but there is a children’s football pitch at the back that may collect the overspill and the young parents around here can be sooo precious over their little ones, having complained vociferously about my current anti-squirrel  system of colourful invective and thrown rocks.
I am sure the bastard squirrels time their raids to coincide with half time oranges in order to garner allies and make me appear irrational, I may have to rustle a Pine-Martin.   

Perhaps there are cocktails that contain hazelnut spread.

OH, there is such a thing as a Nutella martini!

nut drink.


too far?

It would seem that the reason we do not need beautifully decorated firearms in the UK is that we do not have cocktail trees that need defending, the answer to America’s gun problem may lie in this direction.

A sane methodology would be cocktail trees for all, but as this smacks of socialism I doubt it would fly.

I do have a hazelnut tree, but not being a cocktail expert am unaware of any that contain hazelnuts, in any case the bastard squirrels eat them all before they are ripe, an AR15 would sort that I suppose but there is a children’s football pitch at the back that may collect the overspill and the young parents around here can be sooo precious over their little ones, having complained vociferously about my current anti-squirrel  system of colourful invective and thrown rocks.
I am sure the bastard squirrels time their raids to coincide with half time oranges in order to garner allies and make me appear irrational, I may have to rustle a Pine-Martin.

Frangelico is made from hazelnuts.

Have you considered buttering your tree?

Quote from: FlatAssembler on March 18, 2021, 04:00:40 AM

So, what do you guys here think, is it reasonable to believe that guns exist? I am not sure. People around me are telling me guns exist, but that I cannot get one myself to check that because the police in Croatia, where I live, somehow prevents the civilians from owning guns, for some reason that escapes me. So, there is either a conspiracy of American movie-makers making people thing guns exist, or there is a conspiracy of the police somehow preventing people from getting guns to see for themselves that they exist. What do you think is more likely?

Well, I changed my mind on a lot of things since then.

Then it should be banned. There is no reason for anyone to use a automatic gun other than in military. Automatic guns are only for mass murder. It has no more use than pistols in terms of self defence.

Have you read the opening post? I have written this at the beginning of the opening post:

But automatic and semi-automatic weapons are precisely those weapons that can come useful in self-defence, when every second counts. Criminals generally do not use automatic or semi-automatic weapons. Why would they? An attacker has all the time in the world to set up his or her weapon for the attack. It is the defender that needs to respond immediately, for whom automatic weapons may come useful.

The speed of the 2nd shot doesnt matter if you dont live to get out the 1st.
And as an innocent, you have to added onus to not shoot bystanders with your spray and pray.

Also
How much slower do you think firing a semi is vs an auto?
Accuracy?

If youre afraid of ambush - get a bullet proof vest, not an automatic weapon.

The speed of the 2nd shot doesnt matter if you dont live to get out the 1st.
And as an innocent, you have to added onus to not shoot bystanders with your spray and pray.

Also
How much slower do you think firing a semi is vs an auto?
Accuracy?

If youre afraid of ambush - get a bullet proof vest, not an automatic weapon.

If you're afraid of ambush, maybe you need to call the police.  Or hire a private security force.

I'm pretty sure that if I was afraid some group was trying to 'ambush' and murder me, I wouldn't be trying decide between a new vest or a new gun on Amazon.

you address to me?

If you're afraid of ambush, maybe you need to call the police.  Or hire a private security force.

I'm pretty sure that if I was afraid some group was trying to 'ambush' and murder me, I wouldn't be trying decide between a new vest or a new gun on Amazon.

To be fair, the narrative is America is incredibly violent and dangerous. You can get blown away at any time on account of some bored teenagers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-19/australian-man-shot-dead-in-oklahoma/4895152?nw=0&r=HtmlFragment

Aussie guy going for a jog. A bunch of random thugs, bored and looking for something to do, decide to shoot him in the back for fun

Christopher Lane, 22, was jogging in the small town of Duncan on Friday when he was shot in the back in a drive-by.

Police have arrested three teenagers aged 15, 16 and 17.

They will be charged with first-degree murder and could potentially face the death penalty.

Lane was on a baseball scholarship at East Central University and was reportedly two weeks away from celebrating his 23rd birthday.

He had just returned to the US from a trip back to Australia with his girlfriend Sarah, and was believed to have only been staying at her residence for about three days before the incident.

Duncan Police Chief Danny Ford said the shooting appears to have been a random, unprovoked attack and he had not seen anything like it in 30 years of law enforcement.

"He apparently was jogging, he went by a residence where these three boys were, they picked him as a target, they went out and got in a vehicle and followed him," Chief Ford told the ABC's AM program.

"[They] came up from behind and basically shot him in the back with a small calibre weapon. Then sped away."

Welcome to America!

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 03:25:00 AM

If you're afraid of ambush, maybe you need to call the police.  Or hire a private security force.

I'm pretty sure that if I was afraid some group was trying to 'ambush' and murder me, I wouldn't be trying decide between a new vest or a new gun on Amazon.

To be fair, the narrative is America is incredibly violent and dangerous. You can get blown away at any time on account of some bored teenagers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-19/australian-man-shot-dead-in-oklahoma/4895152?nw=0&r=HtmlFragment

Aussie guy going for a jog. A bunch of random thugs, bored and looking for something to do, decide to shoot him in the back for fun

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Christopher Lane, 22, was jogging in the small town of Duncan on Friday when he was shot in the back in a drive-by.

Police have arrested three teenagers aged 15, 16 and 17.

They will be charged with first-degree murder and could potentially face the death penalty.

Lane was on a baseball scholarship at East Central University and was reportedly two weeks away from celebrating his 23rd birthday.

He had just returned to the US from a trip back to Australia with his girlfriend Sarah, and was believed to have only been staying at her residence for about three days before the incident.

Duncan Police Chief Danny Ford said the shooting appears to have been a random, unprovoked attack and he had not seen anything like it in 30 years of law enforcement.

"He apparently was jogging, he went by a residence where these three boys were, they picked him as a target, they went out and got in a vehicle and followed him," Chief Ford told the ABC's AM program.

"[They] came up from behind and basically shot him in the back with a small calibre weapon. Then sped away."

Welcome to America!

At least I don't have to worry about dingos eating my baby.

And unlike in America I don't think the dingos were ever caught and arrested.  Where is your sense of justice?

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 12, 2022, 06:16:42 AM

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 03:25:00 AM

If you're afraid of ambush, maybe you need to call the police.  Or hire a private security force.

I'm pretty sure that if I was afraid some group was trying to 'ambush' and murder me, I wouldn't be trying decide between a new vest or a new gun on Amazon.

To be fair, the narrative is America is incredibly violent and dangerous. You can get blown away at any time on account of some bored teenagers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-19/australian-man-shot-dead-in-oklahoma/4895152?nw=0&r=HtmlFragment

Aussie guy going for a jog. A bunch of random thugs, bored and looking for something to do, decide to shoot him in the back for fun

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Christopher Lane, 22, was jogging in the small town of Duncan on Friday when he was shot in the back in a drive-by.

Police have arrested three teenagers aged 15, 16 and 17.

They will be charged with first-degree murder and could potentially face the death penalty.

Lane was on a baseball scholarship at East Central University and was reportedly two weeks away from celebrating his 23rd birthday.

He had just returned to the US from a trip back to Australia with his girlfriend Sarah, and was believed to have only been staying at her residence for about three days before the incident.

Duncan Police Chief Danny Ford said the shooting appears to have been a random, unprovoked attack and he had not seen anything like it in 30 years of law enforcement.

"He apparently was jogging, he went by a residence where these three boys were, they picked him as a target, they went out and got in a vehicle and followed him," Chief Ford told the ABC's AM program.

"[They] came up from behind and basically shot him in the back with a small calibre weapon. Then sped away."

Welcome to America!

At least I don't have to worry about dingos eating my baby.

And unlike in America I don't think the dingos were ever caught and arrested.  Where is your sense of justice?

Who the fuck is worried about Dingoes eating babies? The real problem is family pet dogs and babies/children. Anywhere in the world. One of the worst offenders, the AMERICAN Pit Bull. Who the fuck has one of those around a kid?!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

Fatal dog attacks in the United States cause the deaths of about 30 to 50 people in the US each year,[1] and the number of deaths from dog attacks appears to be increasing.[2] Around 4.5 million Americans are bitten by dogs every year, resulting in the hospitalization of 6,000 to 13,000 people each year in the United States (2005).

America has wolves, Australia has Dingoes. Same canidae family shit, different colour

99.9% of Australias population will probably never even see a Dingo in their life time


But try to minimise again the very real and disgusting gun violence and culture your country has. When a bunch of bored teenagers shoot some random person in the back minding his own business for a bit of fun, you know your society is all fucked up

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 06:20:43 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 12, 2022, 06:16:42 AM

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 03:25:00 AM

If you're afraid of ambush, maybe you need to call the police.  Or hire a private security force.

I'm pretty sure that if I was afraid some group was trying to 'ambush' and murder me, I wouldn't be trying decide between a new vest or a new gun on Amazon.

To be fair, the narrative is America is incredibly violent and dangerous. You can get blown away at any time on account of some bored teenagers

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-19/australian-man-shot-dead-in-oklahoma/4895152?nw=0&r=HtmlFragment

Aussie guy going for a jog. A bunch of random thugs, bored and looking for something to do, decide to shoot him in the back for fun

Quote

Christopher Lane, 22, was jogging in the small town of Duncan on Friday when he was shot in the back in a drive-by.

Police have arrested three teenagers aged 15, 16 and 17.

They will be charged with first-degree murder and could potentially face the death penalty.

Lane was on a baseball scholarship at East Central University and was reportedly two weeks away from celebrating his 23rd birthday.

He had just returned to the US from a trip back to Australia with his girlfriend Sarah, and was believed to have only been staying at her residence for about three days before the incident.

Duncan Police Chief Danny Ford said the shooting appears to have been a random, unprovoked attack and he had not seen anything like it in 30 years of law enforcement.

"He apparently was jogging, he went by a residence where these three boys were, they picked him as a target, they went out and got in a vehicle and followed him," Chief Ford told the ABC's AM program.

"[They] came up from behind and basically shot him in the back with a small calibre weapon. Then sped away."

Welcome to America!

At least I don't have to worry about dingos eating my baby.

And unlike in America I don't think the dingos were ever caught and arrested.  Where is your sense of justice?

Who the fuck is worried about Dingoes eating babies? The real problem is family pet dogs and babies/children. Anywhere in the world. One of the worst offenders, the AMERICAN Pit Bull. Who the fuck has one of those around a kid?!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

Quote

Fatal dog attacks in the United States cause the deaths of about 30 to 50 people in the US each year,[1] and the number of deaths from dog attacks appears to be increasing.[2] Around 4.5 million Americans are bitten by dogs every year, resulting in the hospitalization of 6,000 to 13,000 people each year in the United States (2005).

America has wolves, Australia has Dingoes. Same canidae family shit, different colour

99.9% of Australias population will probably never even see a Dingo in their life time


But try to minimise again the very real and disgusting gun violence and culture your country has. When a bunch of bored teenagers shoot some random person in the back minding his own business for a bit of fun, you know your society is all fucked up

The officer said he never saw anything like it in 30 years.

Compare that to  the "98 dangerous dingo attacks" that have been recorded since 2002.

I'm concerned if Australia doesn't get a handle on these dangerous dingoes, they might swim over here and get me.

I should buy a gun. Lots of guns.

You do that. If you get bored you can always shoot some random in the back for laughs

You do that. If you get bored you can always shoot some random in the back for laughs

Only once every 30 years.

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 12, 2022, 07:09:46 AM

You do that. If you get bored you can always shoot some random in the back for laughs

Only once every 30 years.

Hundreds of homicides every week. You could shoot someone every day and it wouldn't make a blip on gun related murders let alone total murders

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/27/us-murder-rate-increase-2020

The US has experienced its largest-ever recorded annual increase in murders, according to new statistics from the FBI, with the national murder rate rising nearly 30% in 2020 – the biggest jump in six decades.

You really want to continue this line of discussion? Go nuts. You're American. You'll lose every time

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 07:53:06 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 12, 2022, 07:09:46 AM

You do that. If you get bored you can always shoot some random in the back for laughs

Only once every 30 years.

Hundreds of homicides every week. You could shoot someone every day and it wouldn't make a blip on gun related murders let alone total murders

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/27/us-murder-rate-increase-2020

Quote

The US has experienced its largest-ever recorded annual increase in murders, according to new statistics from the FBI, with the national murder rate rising nearly 30% in 2020 – the biggest jump in six decades.

You really want to continue this line of discussion? Go nuts. You're American. You'll lose every time

Dingoes aren't eating AMERICAN babies.  Bring it on.

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 12, 2022, 08:05:16 AM

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 07:53:06 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 12, 2022, 07:09:46 AM

You do that. If you get bored you can always shoot some random in the back for laughs

Only once every 30 years.

Hundreds of homicides every week. You could shoot someone every day and it wouldn't make a blip on gun related murders let alone total murders

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/27/us-murder-rate-increase-2020

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The US has experienced its largest-ever recorded annual increase in murders, according to new statistics from the FBI, with the national murder rate rising nearly 30% in 2020 – the biggest jump in six decades.

You really want to continue this line of discussion? Go nuts. You're American. You'll lose every time

Dingoes aren't eating AMERICAN babies.  Bring it on.

1 reported case ever. Somehow you making light of a mother losing her baby to an animal attack is your form of entertainment. Repugnant but must be American humour I guess. At least your not shooting up random people for shits and giggles. Well not yet anyway

You're clearly not in favour of any kind of gun control or reform. According to you, dingoes are the bigger threat. Even half a world away. Ameritard logic

Calm down, we know evil poison spiders are more likely to eat your babies.

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 08:44:11 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 12, 2022, 08:05:16 AM

Quote from: JJA on February 12, 2022, 07:53:06 AM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on February 12, 2022, 07:09:46 AM

You do that. If you get bored you can always shoot some random in the back for laughs

Only once every 30 years.

Hundreds of homicides every week. You could shoot someone every day and it wouldn't make a blip on gun related murders let alone total murders

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/27/us-murder-rate-increase-2020

Quote

The US has experienced its largest-ever recorded annual increase in murders, according to new statistics from the FBI, with the national murder rate rising nearly 30% in 2020 – the biggest jump in six decades.

You really want to continue this line of discussion? Go nuts. You're American. You'll lose every time

Dingoes aren't eating AMERICAN babies.  Bring it on.

1 reported case ever. Somehow you making light of a mother losing her baby to an animal attack is your form of entertainment. Repugnant but must be American humour I guess. At least your not shooting up random people for shits and giggles. Well not yet anyway

You're clearly not in favour of any kind of gun control or reform. According to you, dingoes are the bigger threat. Even half a world away. Ameritard logic

Everyone in America was running around yelling "A dingo ate mah ba-bah!" and laughing for months after that happened.  So yes, that's certainly an example of our humor, I won't deny it.

If you think posting a picture with a gun stuck in a baby's diapers is my attempt to seriously articulate my views on gun control then I don't know what to tell you. 

Finally, a gun for nerds.

I almost posted that the other day.

It's very quiet.  It would be nice for a relaxed round of target practice.

Finally, a gun for nerds.

Aaahaha

Youtube gave that to me 2days ago.
Our algorithms are merging.
Dont tell my wife

The speed of the 2nd shot doesnt matter if you dont live to get out the 1st.
And as an innocent, you have to added onus to not shoot bystanders with your spray and pray.

Also
How much slower do you think firing a semi is vs an auto?
Accuracy?

If youre afraid of ambush - get a bullet proof vest, not an automatic weapon.

There is no such thing as a bullet-proof vest. There are only bullet-resistant vests, and they are a hell to wear for longer periods of time (heavy and hot). Even if there were bullet-proof vests, and you are wearing one in a mass shooting, a bullet-proof vest can at best help you, whereas shooting the shooter with a gun can also save people around you.

In context, that reply was to a comment regarding automatic weappn as a good self defesne weapon.

Semantics.
Fine.
Bullet resistant vest.
Having a gun but not surviving the ambush will not get shots on target.

There is no such thing as a bullet-proof vest. There are only bullet-resistant vests, and they are a hell to wear for longer periods of time (heavy and hot). Even if there were bullet-proof vests, and you are wearing one in a mass shooting, a bullet-proof vest can at best help you, whereas shooting the shooter with a gun can also save people around you.

A bullet proof vest will give you some protection, and harm nobody else.

You running around with a gun during a mass shooting might help if you hit the right person, or you might just kill more people by missing and hitting others. Or worse, you might run into a situation with people being shot, and shoot another person with a gun who was also looking for the real shooter.

Even trained police officers miss most of their shots and cause a lot of collateral damage.  A bunch of untrained civilians in a confused situation with guns?  No thanks.

https://www.cnn.com/2012/08/25/justice/new-york-empire-state-shooting/index.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/police-officers-who-shot-two-innocent-women-103-times-wont-be-fired/357771/