War

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on March 01, 2026, 07:09:22 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/01/world/middleeast/iran-attacks-dubai-persian-gulf-countries-retaliation.html

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Iran’s Attacks on Persian Gulf Countries Crack Their Safe Haven Image

Iran responded to an American and Israeli assault by attacking Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Qatar and Bahrain, threatening those states’ reputations for security and openness.

Iran might wake up the rest of the ME if they attack the money.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/02/gulf-states-iran-strikes-response

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Gulf states, encouraged by Donald Trump, are on the verge of ending their neutrality in the war against Iran in reprisal for Tehran’s repeated “reckless and indiscriminate attacks” on their territory and infrastructure.

The calls, led by the United Arab Emirates from inside the six-country Gulf Cooperation Council, are for the Arab states to act in self-defence against Iran, but it would be a huge step for Gulf leaders in effect to side with Israel in a war that will determine the future shape of the Middle East, probably to the advantage of Israel.

A video meeting of GCC foreign ministers on Sunday made no explicit reference to such a plan but stated the “option to respond to Iranian attacks” to protect regional security and stability remained on the table.

So it goes.

Well, if the rich arseholes are coming home, and especially if evacuated by our governments they can all start paying their fucking taxes.  I’d suggest a bit of bonus tax for a few years to make up for their time away.

Most of these aren’t even real states. If they knew they wouldn’t get support from the West, Iran could crush them in a week.

Thinking about what they might feel toward Iran is pure high-level fantasy.

As I wrote above, for these countries, suffering a little damage or some casualties from Iranian attacks is actually a far less painful prescription compared to the possibility of Iran completely annihilating them in a short time.

Frankly, these countries are the underlings, while Iran is part of the “masters” team. They simply don’t have the power to act against it — doing so would be suicidal. In that scenario, the U.S. would face the risk of completely losing these allies.

Right now, the U.S. is doing the right thing by removing all of its personnel from these countries. The U.S. has accepted the situation. But the CENTCOM personnel on this forum are still living in a world of fantasy.

Oh god...

Please make it stop being funny.



Q: How many Experts does it take to elect a supreme leader?

A: Rubble.

There it is:

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9:05 AM: U.S. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said on Monday that Operation Epic Fury in Iran is not a “democracy-building exercise”.

“No stupid rules of engagement, no nation-building quagmire, no democracy-building exercise, no politically correct wars. We fight to win and we don’t waste time or lives,” he said.

The brown people are responsible for their own destiny. No white people eternal sin.

Jew.

Jews are brown justlike Arabs. Theyr relative. They just come from different tribes.

How dumb are these people? Don't they understand by now that Israel knows their every move? They think they can convene above ground?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15608845/US-Iran-live-Israel-launches-fresh-dawn-strikes-Tehran-Beirut-Trump-warns-hardest-hits-come.html

They aren't that dumb, that's why they weren't there. You just have bad news sources.

Iran is actually targeting military objectives. In other countries, the accuracy rate is very high. However, in Israel, the air defense system is very strong and many of the rockets are intercepted. And when the debris from these intercepted rockets falls onto the city, it causes major destruction.

Israel deliberately shows only this destruction. The media is prohibited from entering military areas.

However, it did not even apologize for why it targeted a school and directly killed 200 students. And This situation didn't interest Toryahu at all.

Another thing to consider is that there’s 40 odd years of government infrastructure and bureaucracy involved, almost certainly very loyal to the current regime.

It's much worse than that. The Revolutionary Guard controls literally half the country

It’s composed of military units that run parallel to, but outside of, Iran’s conventional forces. Over the years, the IRGC also developed a diversified business empire that helps finance the regime as well as its own military and ideological agenda. That empire includes core industrial sectors like oil and transportation as well as banking, telecommunications, agriculture, medicine, and real estate.

The IRGC uses affiliates to engage in business activities. For example, the Khatam al-Anbiya engineering firm has built refineries, a railway line, a dam, and a natural gas pipeline. It also controls Tehran’s international airport.

Another pillar of the IRGC’s business empire is its network of “foundations” that essentially form semiprivate monopolies, though they began as organizations to advance religious and revolutionary goals.

“However, over time, wealth accumulation in the service of a wider range of ruling elite objectives, such as self-enrichment, political control, regime survival, and social engineering, became an end in itself,” the Clingendael think tank said in an October report. “What began as vehicles for social justice evolved into corporate-style conglomerates that were shielded from oversight and yet central to the power base of the revolutionary state.”

These IRGC-affiliated foundations are so vast that Clingendael estimated they accounted for more than half of Iran’s GDP in 2013.

https://fortune.com/2026/03/02/iran-islamic-revolutionary-guard-irgc-business-empire-economy-us-israel-bombing/

Now they run half the economy incompetently using it for self-enrichment and patronage networks, but they still run it.   If they are somehow destroyed then it won't be just government infrastructure and bureaucracy that falls apart.  And many of people who work for those industries will support the regime, as they know without those patronage networks they are screwed.

I say it best when I say nothing at all, because I'm the Best!

But I do want to say something about all the shit show of Islamist Devil worshipping monkeys in the Middle East.

They deserve all that's happening to them right now, and all that will happen to them! They took advantage of all the sickness, Liberal mental illness, of suicidal White Western countries! And sent all their garbage, complete monkeys to destabilise and destroy the West! It is by design! Not coincidence or normal in any way! The so called leaders of these Middle Eastern countries did nothing to stop it or said anything, in fact they encouraged it!

Including Islamist Devil worshipper Erdogan! Never forget about his threats to Europe about letting loose all the monkeys to Europe! I feel bad for westernised people in Turkey because same thing is going to happen in Turkey. Because Turkey have been supporting Islamist Devil worshippers for decades and they have shown their true face after what happened in Israel!

I also want to say something about whats happening with the British Royal Family. Fak em ! That witch Elizabeth was the Queen for decades and said absolutely nothing about the state in which the country (company) is in. Not one word! I hope she is burning in Hell right now!

Now, who are the real protectors of Western Civilisation right now? It certainly doesn't look like its the British Monarchy! Nor is it castrated Europeans! It absolutely is Christian Evangelicals in America! And yes, ISRAEL! Not so called Jews, or Judaism, but ISREAL!

Make what you want from what I said, I don't give a flying fak!

Quote from: markjo on March 02, 2026, 12:31:29 PM

Another thing to consider is that there’s 40 odd years of government infrastructure and bureaucracy involved, almost certainly very loyal to the current regime.

It's much worse than that. The Revolutionary Guard controls literally half the country

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It’s composed of military units that run parallel to, but outside of, Iran’s conventional forces. Over the years, the IRGC also developed a diversified business empire that helps finance the regime as well as its own military and ideological agenda. That empire includes core industrial sectors like oil and transportation as well as banking, telecommunications, agriculture, medicine, and real estate.

The IRGC uses affiliates to engage in business activities. For example, the Khatam al-Anbiya engineering firm has built refineries, a railway line, a dam, and a natural gas pipeline. It also controls Tehran’s international airport.

Another pillar of the IRGC’s business empire is its network of “foundations” that essentially form semiprivate monopolies, though they began as organizations to advance religious and revolutionary goals.

“However, over time, wealth accumulation in the service of a wider range of ruling elite objectives, such as self-enrichment, political control, regime survival, and social engineering, became an end in itself,” the Clingendael think tank said in an October report. “What began as vehicles for social justice evolved into corporate-style conglomerates that were shielded from oversight and yet central to the power base of the revolutionary state.”

These IRGC-affiliated foundations are so vast that Clingendael estimated they accounted for more than half of Iran’s GDP in 2013.

https://fortune.com/2026/03/02/iran-islamic-revolutionary-guard-irgc-business-empire-economy-us-israel-bombing/

Now they run half the economy incompetently using it for self-enrichment and patronage networks, but they still run it.   If they are somehow destroyed then it won't be just government infrastructure and bureaucracy that falls apart.  And many of people who work for those industries will support the regime, as they know without those patronage networks they are screwed.

The communist parties of Europe ran 100% of the economy. And yes, incompetently.

Torve saying nothing as usual. I’ll give him one thing, you can’t really say one thing that he truly believes in because he’s too much of a coward, but from what he does say, you know it’s stupid.
LIE, on the other hand, even if he’s just trolling (it’s in the name), flouts his brainlessness wears it like a MAGA hat.

These guys,

Are our saviours? Jesus fucking christ!
Pass me the drugs and book me a ticket to hades.

Torve saying nothing as usual.

There are always some that need everything spelled out for them.

The communist parties of Europe ran 100% of the economy. And yes, incompetently.

Is this meant to have some kind of relevance to the discussion?

Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on March 04, 2026, 05:26:47 AM

Torve saying nothing as usual.

There are always some that need everything spelled out for them.

he says with such confidence.



oh look.
torvo having a "but why male models" zoolander moment not 2days ago:

Quote from: JimmyTheLobster on March 02, 2026, 08:53:04 AM

Quote from: Torve on March 02, 2026, 07:38:12 AM

Quote from: markjo on March 02, 2026, 07:33:23 AM

Quote from: Torve on March 02, 2026, 06:40:05 AM

What was bombed in Libya?

Serious question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya

A serious question requires a serious answer.

Ohhh, you require serious answers now do you?

Well, the answer to your serious question is very well detailed in that wiki, dickhead.

Answer the question.

You claimed that bombing that happened a decade ago is preventing a stable government to be formed.

What was bombed? I mean that thing that completely broke the country beyond repair. What was that?

Quote from: Torve on March 04, 2026, 04:59:12 AM

The communist parties of Europe ran 100% of the economy. And yes, incompetently.

Is this meant to have some kind of relevance to the discussion?

Yes Jimmy.

If you know your history, then you are aware that the communists' control of the economy helped them not one iota holding on to their power, which casts doubt over your thesis that the 50% embeddedness of the IRGC in the Iranian economy would help them retain power.

Clear enough?

Make what you want from what I said, I don't give a flying fak!

Just wondering how much froth dripped from your mouth onto the keyboard as you typed this.

Yep.

“We used to have what [former Secretary of State] Colin Powell called the ‘Pottery Barn Rule.’ If you break it, you own it. If you go in and invade a country, you need to rebuild it,” Schweizer says. “Well, guess what? Donald Trump walked into Pottery Barn, knocked a bunch of things over and said, ‘I’m not paying for anything.’”

The “Trump Doctrine” is to say, “we do not have an obligation to try to rebuild that country. We are eliminating the threat. We’re going to encourage the right people in Iran to win, but whether they step up and do that or not is their own internal business,” Schweizer says.

Shouldn’t the rest of the world demand hundreds of billions of dollars in compensation from the United States and Israel for the economic damage caused by the 20% increase in oil prices and the 30% increase in natural gas prices, resulting from the Iran war they started for their own interests?

Shouldn’t the rest of the world demand hundreds of billions of dollars in compensation from the United States and Israel for the economic damage caused by the 20% increase in oil prices and the 30% increase in natural gas prices, resulting from the Iran war they started for their own interests?

Yes.

Immediately after the sellers of oil and gas compensate the US and IS for their services.

Yep.

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“We used to have what [former Secretary of State] Colin Powell called the ‘Pottery Barn Rule.’ If you break it, you own it. If you go in and invade a country, you need to rebuild it,” Schweizer says. “Well, guess what? Donald Trump walked into Pottery Barn, knocked a bunch of things over and said, ‘I’m not paying for anything.’”

The “Trump Doctrine” is to say, “we do not have an obligation to try to rebuild that country. We are eliminating the threat. We’re going to encourage the right people in Iran to win, but whether they step up and do that or not is their own internal business,” Schweizer says.

yes
no obligation is his MO.
imagine praising a man you know who only cares about hismself, getting what he wants, and leaving mess for others to clean up, then electing that man thinking he'll lead the country to a shared success.

3marraiges all cheated on.
11bankruptices no vendors paid.
rallies unpaid for
countless meals thrown at walls
and 1 very sad umbrella



imagine thinking hes a man for the people...


imagine...










According to testimony from former White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson during the January 6 committee hearings, Donald Trump threw a plate of food against a wall, leaving ketchup dripping down it, in an angry outburst.
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Key details regarding this incident include:
The Incident: The event occurred in the Oval Office dining room after then-Attorney General William Barr told the Associated Press in December 2020 that there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud to change the outcome of the election.
The Aftermath: Hutchinson testified that she helped clean up the ketchup from the wall following the incident.
Pattern of Behavior: The report mentioned that Trump, who famously eats well-done steak with ketchup, has a reputation for throwing food when upset.
Reaction: The imagery of "ketchup dripping down the wall" became a widely cited, emblematic moment from the hearings regarding the atmosphere in the White House during that period.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2024/10/21/trump-us-rallies-leave-behind-unpaid-dues-again-and-again
















then let's take the momumentally ignorant stance of thinking "so what?"

iraq - disruption and evacuation lead to isis.
afghanistan - disruption and evacuation lead to taliban
philipenes -
syria
iran - that's right!  USA installed the theocratic ruler

so many


but who cares, fuk'm all, because "odoyle rules" right?

Quote from: wise on March 05, 2026, 07:50:18 AM

Shouldn’t the rest of the world demand hundreds of billions of dollars in compensation from the United States and Israel for the economic damage caused by the 20% increase in oil prices and the 30% increase in natural gas prices, resulting from the Iran war they started for their own interests?

Yes.

Immediately after the sellers of oil and gas compensate the US and IS for their services.

You’re making a mistake on one point, AlterJack.
The agreement between the U.S. and the oil companies does not concern the end user. The two cases must proceed independently.

May the lawyer with the better case win.

Quote from: Torve on March 05, 2026, 08:06:18 AM

Quote from: wise on March 05, 2026, 07:50:18 AM

Shouldn’t the rest of the world demand hundreds of billions of dollars in compensation from the United States and Israel for the economic damage caused by the 20% increase in oil prices and the 30% increase in natural gas prices, resulting from the Iran war they started for their own interests?

Yes.

Immediately after the sellers of oil and gas compensate the US and IS for their services.

You’re making a mistake on one point, AlterJack.
The agreement between the U.S. and the oil companies does not concern the end user. The two cases must proceed independently.

May the lawyer with the better case win.

Doesn't your abomination recognise a reductio ad absurdum when it sees one?

You misunderstood me, language model. Of course, it’s not easy to become a model that hates other people as much as he does. You’re not like that either. Still, you’re following his path. Now, can you return to the topic and answer my question? Or whatever.

Quote from: wise on March 05, 2026, 07:50:18 AM

Shouldn’t the rest of the world demand hundreds of billions of dollars in compensation from the United States and Israel for the economic damage caused by the 20% increase in oil prices and the 30% increase in natural gas prices, resulting from the Iran war they started for their own interests?

Yes.

Immediately after the sellers of oil and gas compensate the US and IS for their services.

Ah yes, thank you US and Israhell for making everything way more expensive for us

Trump is hiding something in Persian Gulf. 

Quote from: Torve on March 05, 2026, 08:06:18 AM

Quote from: wise on March 05, 2026, 07:50:18 AM

Shouldn’t the rest of the world demand hundreds of billions of dollars in compensation from the United States and Israel for the economic damage caused by the 20% increase in oil prices and the 30% increase in natural gas prices, resulting from the Iran war they started for their own interests?

Yes.

Immediately after the sellers of oil and gas compensate the US and IS for their services.

Ah yes, thank you US and Israhell for making everything way more expensive for us

Yes, thanks Don!   Look how green everything is! That's good, right?

you when the mafia comes by and says they want their protection money
and if you don't pay it they break your store or set it on fire?


yes..."compensation" for their "services".


taxes are for protection of the people.
and not for protecting price gouging/ environment damaging monopolies.

but of course when one takes a maga hat ideology to its "a reductio ad absurdu" the whole "common sense" sort of falls appart.



torvo once again proves he's fucking moron.

Quote from: Pezevenk on March 06, 2026, 12:07:19 AM

Quote from: Torve on March 05, 2026, 08:06:18 AM

Quote from: wise on March 05, 2026, 07:50:18 AM

Shouldn’t the rest of the world demand hundreds of billions of dollars in compensation from the United States and Israel for the economic damage caused by the 20% increase in oil prices and the 30% increase in natural gas prices, resulting from the Iran war they started for their own interests?

Yes.

Immediately after the sellers of oil and gas compensate the US and IS for their services.

Ah yes, thank you US and Israhell for making everything way more expensive for us

Yes, thanks Don!   Look how green everything is! That's good, right?

This could burst the 'Everything Bubble'. So yes, good.

Quote from: disputeone on March 02, 2026, 02:30:36 PM

Quote from: markjo on March 02, 2026, 11:43:28 AM

I think that one of the things that Trump and his cronies haven’t thought through is who are the IRGC supposed to surrender to?

Israel and the US.

Dont pretend to be naive on purpose.

Sorry, I must have blinked and missed the ground invasion.

How did you all get to the point where you think pretending to be retarted is your absolute strongest tactic?

Also, what a burn.