War

no, not that it's a false flag
it's that they knew it was coming, then did nothing about it because they wanted an excuse to invade.

no, not that it's a false flag
it's that they knew it was coming, then did nothing about it because they wanted an excuse to invade.

A strong accusation but it's hard to rule it out.

I don't understand how Netanyahu is still in power. (not because of Oct 7th)

bush hiding out and for some reason off to iraq!







no aircraft carriers were there

For the Pearl Harbor situation it's important to remember that no one knew how valuable aircraft carriers would be at the time.  This sort of vessel was very new and underappreciated at the time. 

If they were trying to move out the valuable stuff then at the time they probably would have decided to move the battleships.

I don't understand how Netanyahu is still in power. (not because of Oct 7th)

Well, that's one thing about Israel's sort of democracy.    It doesn't really matter who you vote for, you end up with that utterly corrupt bastard.

Is there actually any way of getting rid of him now anyway?

For the Pearl Harbor situation it's important to remember that no one knew how valuable aircraft carriers would be at the time.  This sort of vessel was very new and underappreciated at the time. 

If they were trying to move out the valuable stuff then at the time they probably would have decided to move the battleships.

but they knew how valuable air support was.
the luftwaffen and RAF were duking it out for a few years to begin with

any pacific war would require speed and stealth.

cruisers hold posistions

subs are stealth

air is speed



ah well anyway

it's highly plausible that "acceptable losses" for a sociopathic leader is be used to energize the peoples.

The US politely asks Israel to please stop killing civilians for 5 minutes.

Israel's immediate response;
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/health-ministry-gaza-says-israel-targeted-convoy-ambulances-leaving-al-shifa-2023-11-03/

I'm starting to wonder if this is some sort of game Netanyahu is playing where he's trying to make Biden look like a total ass.

The US politely asks Israel to please stop killing civilians for 5 minutes.

Israel's immediate response;
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/health-ministry-gaza-says-israel-targeted-convoy-ambulances-leaving-al-shifa-2023-11-03/

I'm starting to wonder if this is some sort of game Netanyahu is playing where he's trying to make Biden look like a total ass.

He's probably hoping Trump wins the next election.

Which he will at this rate.   Biden's recent poll numbers are in the toilet and even the majority of his voters think he's too old.

He really needs to stand aside and let someone else run.

On the other hand I don't think Netanyahu will be around for the next US election, he seems detested in Israel by about every faction.

https://fox59.com/news/indy-police-arrest-terrorist-for-purposely-driving-her-car-into-home-used-by-hate-group/

INDIANAPOLIS — IMPD officers arrested a woman, who they labeled a “terrorist,” after she drove her car into a building that she thought was a Jewish school.

However, the building is used by the Israelite School of Universal and Practical Knowledge which has been labeled and anti-semitic hate group.

Ruba Almaghtheh, 34, was arrested on a preliminary charge of criminal recklessness.

According to a police report obtained by FOX59/CBS4, police were called to the building around 11:30 Friday night to investigate a hate crime. Officers said Almaghtheh backed her car into the building while several adults and children were inside. 

Almaghtheh told officers she was watching news coverage of the Israel-Hamas war on television and decided to plan an attack on the building because she was offended by the “Hebrew Israelite” symbol on the front of the building. 

Police said Almaghtheh passed by the building a couple times and called it the “Israel school.”

IMPD said she made reference to “her people back in Palestine” and told officers, “Yes. I did it on purpose.”

People are losing their minds out there! Once again, attacking Jews (even if they've made a mistake lol) who do not live in Israel. I am beginning to think they just hate Jews.

Which he will at this rate.   Biden's recent poll numbers are in the toilet and even the majority of his voters think he's too old.

He really needs to stand aside and let someone else run.

On the other hand I don't think Netanyahu will be around for the next US election, he seems detested in Israel by about every faction.

Polling this far out from an election, historically, hasn't meant much.  It's something to be concerned about but it's not the disaster it looks like on paper.

I don't know if Biden should step aside honestly.  I'm kind of split on that.  Personally I think he's a much better president than his own party gives him credit.

Quote from: JimmyTheLobster on November 06, 2023, 03:31:37 AM

Which he will at this rate.   Biden's recent poll numbers are in the toilet and even the majority of his voters think he's too old.

He really needs to stand aside and let someone else run.

On the other hand I don't think Netanyahu will be around for the next US election, he seems detested in Israel by about every faction.

Polling this far out from an election, historically, hasn't meant much.  It's something to be concerned about but it's not the disaster it looks like on paper.

I don't know if Biden should step aside honestly.  I'm kind of split on that.  Personally I think he's a much better president than his own party gives him credit.

Probably and he's done good on Ukraine, which will always give put him in my good books.

However, he's fucking ancient and looks it.

Quote from: Crouton on November 06, 2023, 08:46:26 AM

Quote from: JimmyTheLobster on November 06, 2023, 03:31:37 AM

Which he will at this rate.   Biden's recent poll numbers are in the toilet and even the majority of his voters think he's too old.

He really needs to stand aside and let someone else run.

On the other hand I don't think Netanyahu will be around for the next US election, he seems detested in Israel by about every faction.

Polling this far out from an election, historically, hasn't meant much.  It's something to be concerned about but it's not the disaster it looks like on paper.

I don't know if Biden should step aside honestly.  I'm kind of split on that.  Personally I think he's a much better president than his own party gives him credit.

Probably and he's done good on Ukraine, which will always give put him in my good books.

However, he's fucking ancient and looks it.

No doubt.  I actually avoid his speeches because I panic a little every time he pauses just a little too long.

No doubt.  I actually avoid his speeches because I panic a little every time he pauses just a little too long.

When he was talking to Netanyahu it was too much for me. I had to look away.

Am I the only one who notices that world opinion is slowly turning against Israel?

History is completely fabricated, and one of the few things that is true is the constant genocide of the Jews. And it is the descendants of the Pharaoh who did this, especially Netanyahu, Biden and the highest-ranking officials in Turkey and Israel. The Israeli army has successfully demonized itself so the world will not care if they have got commit genocide.

I feel sad for them and then I feel sad for being sad for them. And then I'm sad because I'm sad that I'm sad.

Oh man, now I'm sad because you're sad that you're said.

No, you're not the only one who noticed the world turning on the Jews. The people out there shouting their support of Hamas are very happy to take their anger out on local Jewish people. It makes no sense to attack Jewish people living outside Israel, unless they just want an excuse to profess their hatred of Jews.

Am I the only one who notices that world opinion is slowly turning against Israel?

History is completely fabricated, and one of the few things that is true is the constant genocide of the Jews. And it is the descendants of the Pharaoh who did this, especially Netanyahu, Biden and the highest-ranking officials in Turkey and Israel. The Israeli army has successfully demonized itself so the world will not care if they have got commit genocide.

I feel sad for them and then I feel sad for being sad for them. And then I'm sad because I'm sad that I'm sad.

If history is fabricated how do you know what is true?

Also, if they have been genocided this whole time... Alot of people have lost their touch at genocide.

Attempted genocide, I mean, what is that?  Do they give Nobel prizes for attempted chemistry?

They arrested trump on attempted insurrection.

But at same time he aquitted of titfrtat attempted in russia gate/ ukraine gate

Oh man, now I'm sad because you're sad that you're said.

Now I'm sad that you misspelt sad 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/15/politics/dnc-headquarters-violent-protest-democrats-evacuated/index.html

CNN  —

Law enforcement clashed with protesters calling for a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war outside of the Washington headquarters of the Democratic National Committee Wednesday night after authorities said the demonstration turned violent and lawmakers were evacuated from the building.

“Tonight 6 officers were treated for injuries – ranging from minor cuts to being pepper sprayed to being punched. One person has been arrested for assault on an officer. We appreciate our officers who kept these illegal & violent protesters back & protected everyone in the area,” US Capitol Police, who responded with DC Metropolitan Police, said in a statement on X.

Officers, according to USCP, had worked “to keep back approximately 150 people who are illegally and violently protesting” in the area – a characterization activist groups later disputed – and escorted members of Congress from the area. Top House Democrats were among those evacuated.

It's getting spicy out there.

Well they had to use violence.  Hamas had setup a headquarters inside that building.

It's getting spicy out there.

Pepper spray will do that.

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213579692/israel-gaza-evacuation-south-attacks

I mean, if I wanted to commit genocide.. I'd definitely tell people to evacuate to X then bomb the shit out of X.

I'm not sure if it's genocide though it's hard to argue with that.  It could be just bloodlust.  Just wanting to murder a massive amount of civilians to make themselves feel better about Oct 7.

To be fair statistically they must have nailed a few terrorists in this bombardment.

So yeah, our tax dollars at work.  In Biden's defense he has politely asked them to not commit mass murder but then Israel told us to go fuck ourselves.  And we are of course going to continue to send them weapons.

They want the property.





Oh.

 And genocidal racism.

But.. but the command complex they built under the hospital!
You know the one they proved with a few rusty guns and some boots, I mean it’s not like the doctors would have had to treat at least some fighters if they’d managed to clear a space cluttered with all the maimed kids.

The IDF explains this one.



He brings up a very good point.  Neither of us are doctors.  We don't know how those children died.  They could have died from natural causes immediately before being incinerated by bombing runs.  Gaza is oddly short of doctors and journalists at the moment so it's hard to say for sure.

Another explanation I think the IDF should explore is that there are no children in Gaza, just an exceptionally high percentage of people suffering from dwarfism.