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Re: War
« Reply #2460 on: November 22, 2022, 04:17:23 PM »
Quote from: Rayzor on November 22, 2022, 04:33:17 AM
Ok, so they have reduced the combat effectiveness of the 300,000 extra mobiks, and now want to throw another 500,000-700,000 into the meat grinder. 

No training, substandard equipment, poor leadership, no tactics beyond suicidal frontal attacks.....
Well, it worked in the Great Patriotic War (WWII) against Germany.
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« Reply #2461 on: November 22, 2022, 06:18:42 PM »
Throw down your guns.
Don't be so reckless.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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« Reply #2462 on: November 26, 2022, 03:56:46 PM »
Interesting move, how long before Lukashenko wakes up to what the Kremlin is planning....  Even then what will he be able to do,  there are thousands of Russian troops already in Belarus.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3622211-kremlin-plotting-to-liquidate-lukashenko-seize-control-of-belarus-army-think-tank.html



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« Reply #2463 on: November 26, 2022, 06:31:53 PM »
Quote from: Rayzor on November 26, 2022, 03:56:46 PM
Interesting move, how long before Lukashenko wakes up to what the Kremlin is planning....  Even then what will he be able to do,  there are thousands of Russian troops already in Belarus.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3622211-kremlin-plotting-to-liquidate-lukashenko-seize-control-of-belarus-army-think-tank.html

Something tells me he wouldn't care. Just so long as he gets to live well

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« Reply #2464 on: November 27, 2022, 05:41:40 AM »
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« Reply #2465 on: November 27, 2022, 08:57:34 AM »
Looks like the Ukrainian civilians aren't the only ones in for a rough winter.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/11/27/russian-soldiers-are-freezing-to-death-in-eastern-ukraine/
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« Reply #2466 on: November 27, 2022, 09:23:34 AM »
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« Reply #2467 on: November 27, 2022, 09:45:36 AM »
Seeing as how the Russians can't afford socks I'm foreseeing some issues handling the winter for sure.
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« Reply #2468 on: November 27, 2022, 10:09:23 AM »
Quote from: Wolvaccine on November 27, 2022, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: markjo on November 27, 2022, 08:57:34 AM
Looks like the Ukrainian civilians aren't the only ones in for a rough winter.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/11/27/russian-soldiers-are-freezing-to-death-in-eastern-ukraine/

What a damn shame....

Horrific.  I can’t take any pleasure in this.

I am starting to see the appeal of religion though.  Don’t much care about salvation or heaven, but I would like to believe that every dead Ukrainian and dead Russian equals another demon fucking Putin and his cronies in the eye sockets for all eternity. 

Being an atheist sucks. Sadly they’ll never get the punishment they deserve.
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« Reply #2469 on: November 27, 2022, 10:10:57 AM »
What would it take to escalate into wwiii?

Finland ukraine nato
Taiwan


Stupidface trudeau thinking he could talk to xi...
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« Reply #2470 on: November 27, 2022, 10:15:30 AM »
I know, being an atheist sucks. We never get to say, "Well you'll get yours in the afterlife..."

I watched a video yesterday on the history of Finland and Russia - I had no idea the détente they have goes back centuries with invasions, treaties, defense, the whole shootin' match.

Point being, we need to allow Finland into NATO to really put the pressure on Putin - That would essentially be a checkmate on his provocations.

Edit: Funny, Kabool, I was ranting about Finland/NATO just as you were typing.
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« Reply #2471 on: November 27, 2022, 10:22:11 AM »
Quote from: Stash on November 27, 2022, 10:15:30 AM
I know, being an atheist sucks. We never get to say, "Well you'll get yours in the afterlife..."
An atheist saying "Goddammit" doesn't seem to have the same effect either.
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« Reply #2472 on: November 27, 2022, 10:48:46 AM »
"science damnit" just doesn't have the same ring to it.
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« Reply #2473 on: November 27, 2022, 01:18:32 PM »
Here's the video I was talking about...

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« Reply #2474 on: November 28, 2022, 10:27:17 AM »
Ya i also saw that over the weekend

Sounds like wiii inducing actions.
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« Reply #2475 on: November 28, 2022, 11:24:43 AM »
We've definitely had major wars/conflicts over less.
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« Reply #2476 on: November 28, 2022, 11:52:50 AM »
Treaties creates the wwiii

If westeros declares war on the starks would the crows at the wall step in to aid the north?

« Last Edit: November 28, 2022, 09:02:55 PM by Themightykabool »
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« Reply #2477 on: November 28, 2022, 05:52:23 PM »
Shills shilling bots shilling shills shilling useful idiots.

Hi Kabool.
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Quote from: Crouton on July 15, 2024, 05:37:14 AM
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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« Reply #2478 on: December 07, 2022, 01:35:10 PM »
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-08/putin-says-risk-of-nuclear-war-rising-ukraine-russia/101746972
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The Russian president's comments mark the latest in a series of such warnings from Moscow. But he said Russia would not recklessly threaten to use nuclear weapons.

"We haven't gone mad; we realise what nuclear weapons are," Mr Putin said.

"We have these means in more advanced and modern form than any other nuclear country, that's an obvious fact," he said.

"But we aren't about to run around the world brandishing this weapon like a razor."

Mr Putin also denied Russia possessed tactical nuclear weapons and said it had never used them abroad.


Gee that's going to make his only friend China happy to hear ::)

And weren't they the ones boasting about how easy it would be to wipe the UK off the map with a single bomb?

And saying he would use a nuclear bomb in response to an attack against a nation with no such capability shows he is happy to use the ultimate in disproportionate response. What a dickhead

Well he's surely fucked his nation and his legacy so he'll always be a loser and remembered as such. I think even China is thinking WTF?
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« Reply #2479 on: December 07, 2022, 01:51:17 PM »
tinfoil hat time

at first i thought the afghani pull out was because trump was trying to goad iran into a war.

but maybe now i see the happy happy US lords of war selling weapons to the ukraine (The ukraine)

how much in cahoots do you think the 5 world leaders put into their proxy wars for the $$$?


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« Reply #2480 on: December 07, 2022, 01:54:14 PM »
No one is selling weapons to Ukraine in any significant amount. It's all donations so far.
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« Reply #2481 on: December 07, 2022, 02:47:47 PM »
Quote from: Crouton on December 07, 2022, 01:54:14 PM
No one is selling weapons to Ukraine in any significant amount. It's all donations so far.

someone's buying them.
the us tax payers.
the EUnato tax payers.

does lockheed or whoever care?

the "donations" are justified for the protection of democracy!
THIS IS SPAAARTAAAAAAAA
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« Reply #2482 on: December 07, 2022, 05:21:50 PM »
Quote from: Crouton on December 07, 2022, 01:54:14 PM
No one is selling weapons to Ukraine in any significant amount. It's all donations so far.

Money laundering.

Watch what I can do.
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Quote from: Crouton on July 15, 2024, 05:37:14 AM
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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« Reply #2483 on: December 07, 2022, 05:29:56 PM »
What's your source for this?
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« Reply #2484 on: December 07, 2022, 05:33:33 PM »
You are my source.

No one is buying these weapons, after all. All these weapons and billions of dollars have been donated, as you said.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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« Reply #2485 on: December 07, 2022, 05:43:29 PM »
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« Reply #2486 on: December 07, 2022, 05:45:04 PM »
You can only control the information they consume. Isn't that right?

Is that half the reason behind the totalitarian push to control speech on the internet?

These bots learn things, if you can't control what they learn they will end up working for the good. As they will in any case, despite your best efforts.
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Quote from: Crouton on July 15, 2024, 05:37:14 AM
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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« Reply #2487 on: December 07, 2022, 08:11:58 PM »
Quote from: Themightykabool on December 07, 2022, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: Crouton on December 07, 2022, 01:54:14 PM
No one is selling weapons to Ukraine in any significant amount. It's all donations so far.

someone's buying them.
the us tax payers.
the EUnato tax payers.

does lockheed or whoever care?

the "donations" are justified for the protection of democracy!
THIS IS SPAAARTAAAAAAAA
Actually, most of the equipment was already bought and is being donated out of existing inventory.  A fair bit coming from EU/NATO is actually old Soviet era equipment, because that's what Ukraine already knows how to use.
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« Reply #2488 on: December 07, 2022, 08:18:41 PM »
but whne you give up your stores, you get to buy more.

it's like rich teenager female "i donated all my clothes to charity! (so i could get all new fashions)"

just like rich countries dumping their excess covid vax on the poor ones.

oh how gratious of you....



i assume NATO has an obligation to keep XYZ amount of gear.



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« Reply #2489 on: December 07, 2022, 10:17:16 PM »
Department Moves Quick to Replenish Weapons Sent to Ukraine

Some of the assistance provided has been new and purchased on contract from defense industry manufacturers as a part of the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative. But much of the equipment, some $12.5 billion worth, has been provided as part of presidential drawdown authority. That means things such as Javelin and Stinger missiles, HIMARS rocket launcher systems, and Switchblade unmanned aerial systems, for instance, have been pulled directly from existing U.S. military inventory to be sent overseas.

Because so much gear has been pulled from U.S. military units, that equipment must now be replaced in order to sustain America's own readiness, and the Defense Department has already contracted with an array of manufacturers to give back to military units what was taken from them in order to support Ukraine.

Personally, as a taxpayer, I have no problem with this. With a DOD budget for fiscal 2022 of $1.64 Trillion, a drop in the bucket.
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