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Re: War
« Reply #1800 on: September 27, 2022, 10:25:19 PM »
Okay.  Maybe this isn't a health urge.  But I really wish they would have somehow ignited the natural gas coming out of that hole.  It would look really cool.
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Re: War
« Reply #1801 on: September 27, 2022, 10:30:38 PM »

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Re: War
« Reply #1802 on: September 27, 2022, 10:50:33 PM »
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Re: War
« Reply #1803 on: September 28, 2022, 05:24:09 AM »


Apparantly Ruskis making a beeline for the border to escape. Don't think Putin is making a great legacy for himself. What kind of leadership is this?

Then what of the Ruskis that got conscripted? What is their morale going to be like? If they can't have faith or believe in what they are fighting for, they aren't going to try so hard

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Re: War
« Reply #1804 on: September 28, 2022, 06:44:53 AM »
There's something strange about this reaction.  We've all assumed that Russians generally believe Putin's propaganda.  But apparently they don't or else they wouldn't have this panicked reaction.  I mean getting the hell out of Russia right now is the sort of thing a well informed person would do.

So if they don't really believe their own propaganda that would mean that the Russian population has been generally apathetic to their own country killing hundreds of thousands of civilians.  Maybe even supportive of it.
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Re: War
« Reply #1805 on: September 28, 2022, 07:26:39 AM »
There's something strange about this reaction.  We've all assumed that Russians generally believe Putin's propaganda.  But apparently they don't or else they wouldn't have this panicked reaction.  I mean getting the hell out of Russia right now is the sort of thing a well informed person would do.
These are generally the younger middle classes (otherwise they would not be able to afford to flee, let alone to somewhere like Finland).  Many of them will have much more sceptical views (as well being able to get round the censors) on Russian government information.  Certainly much sceptical than some babushka living in the provinces.

Propaganda isn't all encompassing, it's not China.  Like everything else in Russia it is "just good enough" - it's crude, but they hit you over the head with it pretty hard.  As long as you don't try and challenge  anyone powerful (especially Putin), the state will generally stay out of your life and let you get on with things.  There are no social credit scores, "great firewalls" or a million online spies tracking your every move.

For the older generation this crude propaganda works just fine - Putin will always be remembered as the guy who saved them from anarchy and total humiliation.   Younger people increasingly don't remember the dark days of the 90s, so don't have this emotional attachment.  They also tend to be much more sophisticated consumers of media, and don't just sit there watching TV, cheering on the deranged talking heads.  Talking of deranged talking heads, Tucker Carlson is very popular on Russian propaganda channels, for some reason   ::)

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So if they don't really believe their own propaganda that would mean that the Russian population has been generally apathetic to their own country killing hundreds of thousands of civilians. 
Indeed.  You live in Moscow, or one of the nicer cities, and enjoy yourself while the government does it's thing.  You don't ask too many questions, don't protest and they will leave you to your own ends.  It was an unwritten social contract.  Which Putin has now just broken with mobilisation. 

Watch these two young Russians try to explain to a local why they ran to Kazakhstan
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Re: War
« Reply #1806 on: September 28, 2022, 08:31:36 AM »
There's something strange about this reaction.  We've all assumed that Russians generally believe Putin's propaganda.  But apparently they don't or else they wouldn't have this panicked reaction.  I mean getting the hell out of Russia right now is the sort of thing a well informed person would do.

So if they don't really believe their own propaganda that would mean that the Russian population has been generally apathetic to their own country killing hundreds of thousands of civilians.  Maybe even supportive of it.
Or could just be draft dodgers like during vietnam.
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Re: War
« Reply #1808 on: September 28, 2022, 10:47:54 AM »
stop watching fox news

Re: War
« Reply #1809 on: September 28, 2022, 11:56:17 AM »
This has some great content:

https://twitter.com/wartranslated
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« Reply #1810 on: September 28, 2022, 12:01:26 PM »
I'm putting together this list for the benefit of disputeone because apparently he gets his news on this war
Is this the same d1 that used to berate us to "turn off our TV" and stop "believing mainstream media" almost constantly?

Looks like Carlson is now is now his father figure.  I suppose it was going to be Tucker or Jordan Peterson.  Maybe it is both.  Does anyone remember the sitcom My Two Dads?

They should reboot that and the two dads could be Tucker Carlson and Jordon Peterson with D1 as the teenage kid.  Hilarity ensues.
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Re: War
« Reply #1811 on: September 28, 2022, 12:04:02 PM »
Don't worry, Jimmy (who I assume is Jimmy's cousin). They'll eventually do something with dipshitone.

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Re: War
« Reply #1812 on: September 28, 2022, 12:52:11 PM »
I'm putting together this list for the benefit of disputeone because apparently he gets his news on this war
Is this the same d1 that used to berate us to "turn off our TV" and stop "believing mainstream media" almost constantly?

Looks like Carlson is now is now his father figure.  I suppose it was going to be Tucker or Jordan Peterson.  Maybe it is both.  Does anyone remember the sitcom My Two Dads?

They should reboot that and the two dads could be Tucker Carlson and Jordon Peterson with D1 as the teenage kid.  Hilarity ensues.

Yes. 

It's just that Tucker Carlson's accusation doesn't really rise to the level of propaganda.  It's the sort of thing someone would say if they really don't know what's going on in this war.  It sounds about as preposterous as claiming that the CIA is trying to agitate Mongolia to declare war on Russia and we should really be worried about this because modern militaries still can't counter Mongolian horse archers and Ukhnaagiin Khürelsükh is determined to fulfill Genghis Khan's vision of a worldwide khanate.
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Re: War
« Reply #1813 on: September 28, 2022, 06:27:55 PM »
This is pretty funny. 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1574865224108220423

Yes I know it's fake subtitles, but it's still hilarious.
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Re: War
« Reply #1814 on: September 29, 2022, 03:16:51 AM »
This is pretty funny. 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1574865224108220423

Yes I know it's fake subtitles, but it's still hilarious.
Though that guy does have a fighting age child.  Who is currently living and studying in....London.
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« Reply #1815 on: September 29, 2022, 09:01:50 AM »

Fall out from Nukes is not a real concern. A perfect nuke uses all its radioactive material in the blast. A bad nuke, like in Hiroshima does not, and disperses a lot of the material. Hiroshima's radioactive aftermath was really not bad at all.




You keep saying this and I know we’ve argued before and you haven’t done the decent thing and realised that I am right yet.
Watch “The Coming War on China” by John Pilger apart from being a good documentary it starts with the USA’s bomb testing in the Marshal Islands and shows the physical effects both on those that lived there but also on children that were born afterwards, then tell me that fall out isn’t a problem.

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Re: War
« Reply #1816 on: September 29, 2022, 02:35:02 PM »
It's just that Tucker Carlson's accusation doesn't really rise to the level of propaganda.
It does in Russia, where they have his waxy talking head on heavy rotation.

They have to, their own chief propagandist is having some kind of slow breakdown:

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1575550915855392768
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Re: War
« Reply #1817 on: September 29, 2022, 02:52:46 PM »
I've seen that guy pop up a lot.  Usually in their form of a political roundtable.  They have a curious aesthetic.  It looks like they're contests in a gameshow in Hell.

I kind of wish we weren't so effective at suppressing Russian disinformation.  It's sometimes entertaining to watch them.
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Re: War
« Reply #1818 on: September 29, 2022, 11:54:11 PM »

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Re: War
« Reply #1819 on: September 30, 2022, 01:06:45 AM »
I've seen that guy pop up a lot.  Usually in their form of a political roundtable.
Yeah, he's the host - Vladimir Solovyov.  Lived in Italy half the time before the war - place on Lake Como.  Has a fighting age son who, like a good patriot, studies in London.



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I kind of wish we weren't so effective at suppressing Russian disinformation.  It's sometimes entertaining to watch them.
That Julia Davis channel I linked curates clips with translations.
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Re: War
« Reply #1820 on: September 30, 2022, 01:47:07 AM »
stop watching fox news

Hahahahaha  . . . . . .   fukin tard
OMG, you stupid twat.Do you actually believe that your asshole idiot beliefs are just the only way to think?
You butt fucking tard. 









Re: War
« Reply #1821 on: September 30, 2022, 03:16:59 AM »
stop watching fox news

Hahahahaha  . . . . . .   fukin tard
OMG, you stupid twat.Do you actually believe that your asshole idiot beliefs are just the only way to think?
You butt fucking tard.

Are Fox still paying someone to spread the war criminal’s propaganda?

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Re: War
« Reply #1822 on: September 30, 2022, 03:33:46 AM »
stop watching fox news

Hahahahaha  . . . . . .   fukin tard
OMG, you stupid twat.Do you actually believe that your asshole idiot beliefs are just the only way to think?
You butt fucking tard.

Are Fox still paying someone to spread the war criminal’s propaganda?

Can you expound on that?

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Re: War
« Reply #1823 on: September 30, 2022, 03:44:16 AM »
stop watching fox news

Hahahahaha  . . . . . .   fukin tard
OMG, you stupid twat.Do you actually believe that your asshole idiot beliefs are just the only way to think?
You butt fucking tard.

Are Fox still paying someone to spread the war criminal’s propaganda?

I guess if Cucker is on FOX's payroll, then yes.

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What animal relates to your wife?

Know your place

Re: War
« Reply #1824 on: September 30, 2022, 03:58:27 AM »
stop watching fox news

Hahahahaha  . . . . . .   fukin tard
OMG, you stupid twat.Do you actually believe that your asshole idiot beliefs are just the only way to think?
You butt fucking tard.


No
But fox is provably liars.
So believe liars that activirly harm society is a good thing or a bad thing?

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Re: War
« Reply #1825 on: September 30, 2022, 05:41:11 AM »
stop watching fox news

Hahahahaha  . . . . . .   fukin tard
OMG, you stupid twat.Do you actually believe that your asshole idiot beliefs are just the only way to think?
You butt fucking tard.


No
But fox is provably liars.
So believe liars that activirly harm society is a good thing or a bad thing?

PROVE FOX LIES. Should be easy for you.  Go ahead.  Haha, we both know you can't.



Hahahahaha,  I just went to get my passport renewed.  I'm sitting in the 'wait your turn' area.
There is a TV on the wall.  Blasting CNN.  I turned the TV off.

The ferocious bitch behind the window who believed she was the arbiter of everything, yelled at me to turn the TV back on.
I axtd if that was the official government position on media displayed in a government office?

She was fatter than fuck with 3" claws.  Caked on makeup.  Looked like a cheap whore. 


After some bitching, she acquiesced. They have no right to have left wing socialist bull shit screaming from the walls.

If you don't stand up for your rights, you give up your rights.
 





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Re: War
« Reply #1826 on: September 30, 2022, 06:20:38 AM »
stop watching fox news

Hahahahaha  . . . . . .   fukin tard
OMG, you stupid twat.Do you actually believe that your asshole idiot beliefs are just the only way to think?
You butt fucking tard.


No
But fox is provably liars.
So believe liars that activirly harm society is a good thing or a bad thing?

Eh... Yes and no.
Fox News is biased but not liars.
Fox opinion (which is most of their programming) are hypocrticak fuckers.

Basically imagine the New York Times decided to have 1 page of news and 50 pages of editorial.
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Re: War
« Reply #1827 on: September 30, 2022, 06:31:15 AM »
Fox "news" is the first lie.
Tucker barrowly escaped a suit.




After that - yes very easily to find montage on youtube for the lies.

To equate cnn (center right big corp propaganda machine) who wants status quo shadow govt stealing peoples money.

Vs fox news (alt right squareropot of i) who wants infighting at the bottom to distract lower classes from uprising against thw uppers.

Lets compare the lies?
This wont end in your favour.

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Re: War
« Reply #1828 on: September 30, 2022, 06:33:53 AM »
Fox "news" is the first lie.
Tucker barrowly escaped a suit.




After that - yes very easily to find montage on youtube for the lies.

To equate cnn (center right big corp propaganda machine) who wants status quo shadow govt stealing peoples money.

Vs fox news (alt right squareropot of i) who wants infighting at the bottom to distract lower classes from uprising against thw uppers.

Lets compare the lies?
This wont end in your favour.

Tucker is part of the opinion bit.  He isn't official news.
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Re: War
« Reply #1829 on: September 30, 2022, 06:55:04 AM »
Fox "news" is the first lie.
Tucker barrowly escaped a suit.




After that - yes very easily to find montage on youtube for the lies.

To equate cnn (center right big corp propaganda machine) who wants status quo shadow govt stealing peoples money.

Vs fox news (alt right squareropot of i) who wants infighting at the bottom to distract lower classes from uprising against thw uppers.

Lets compare the lies?
This wont end in your favour.

Tucker is part of the opinion bit.  He isn't official news.

Most folks are too stupid to comprehend and / or distinguish between NEWS and Commentary.
Who's fucking fault is that?


That's a real question.