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Why?
« on: January 22, 2022, 10:36:01 AM »
I think people could hide the fact the earth is round but why. What do they get out of paying people at NASA to do nothing? There are so many jobs you would have to bribe because they just would do nothing. And you might say they get control or power but how?

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Re: Why?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2022, 11:49:01 AM »
I think people could hide the fact the earth is round but why. What do they get out of paying people at NASA to do nothing? There are so many jobs you would have to bribe because they just would do nothing. And you might say they get control or power but how?

A lot of people working at NASA have nothing to do with science and space exploration. You think the bimbo working in HR processing peoples pay slips has to know everything going on?

Even the egg heads supposedly controlling the rover on Mars probably think they are doing honest work. Unbeknownst to them, they are really only playing a game with a super long lag time


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Re: Why?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2022, 05:29:10 PM »
I think people could hide the fact the earth is round but why. What do they get out of paying people at NASA to do nothing? There are so many jobs you would have to bribe because they just would do nothing. And you might say they get control or power but how?
My theory is that it may involve suppressed technology. ...gravitymakes earth spherical?
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theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2022, 05:32:28 PM »
Or maybe a corruption of the values of individuals - advanced tech is to be coveted? (may not be the right word)

I've personally valued the theory; that a lot of this high tech stuff is not necessary, for a large part of my life.
« Last Edit: January 22, 2022, 05:35:12 PM by faded mike »
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
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theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

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Re: Why?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2022, 08:13:32 PM »
My theory is that it may involve suppressed technology.
How would saying Earth is round help them to suppress technology?
Why couldn't they suppress it just as well if they said Earth is flat (in the fantasy where Earth is flat)?

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Re: Why?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2022, 11:23:22 AM »
I know they could do It but why?

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Re: Why?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2022, 01:13:21 PM »
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My theory is that it may involve suppressed technology. ...gravitymakes earth spherical?
Nothing to do with suppressed technology. Just the laws of physics. This link might help.

https://www.spaceanswers.com/deep-space/what-is-the-minimum-size-a-celestial-body-can-become-a-sphere/


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Re: Why?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2022, 02:56:29 PM »
This short video (just a clip from longer version) briefly describes how the theory of gravity forming the planets is wrong. And how it's not actually explained in scientific lttterature, or at least commonly described in the main body of litterature as not fully understood.



starting around 5:50, 7:20
« Last Edit: January 24, 2022, 03:07:54 PM by faded mike »
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
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theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2022, 04:22:46 PM »
This short video (just a clip from longer version) briefly describes how the theory of gravity forming the planets is wrong. And how it's not actually explained in scientific lttterature, or at least commonly described in the main body of litterature as not fully understood.



starting around 5:50, 7:20

Are you a creationist now? Do you now believe that a Biblical god created the heaven and earth 6000 years ago ala Genesis? That's what this video and guy are all about - He's a Christian Biblical Creationist.

And in his video he presents no evidence against the various models of the solar systems origins from mainstream astrophysics. He just says that the models don't know exactly how specific accretions occurred. We're not exactly sure how magnets work either, but they do.

Quoting a passage from a bible is not evidence of, well, anything.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2022, 09:20:29 PM »
An I a creationist? I will believe in the truth, and I like to believe the earth was indeed created inteligently, which if i remember correctly is what the Spike Psarris says in his videos.   He definitely isn't preaching in this video if that is your complaint, or anyones reason to not watch the video.

So are you referencing his larger series or this video. Check it out it is science based and not really about the bible - he used to be an atheist army space engineer. And actually, from memory i would say you are wrong, and the full legth video I saw, anyway, a while back is more what is wrong with the text book teachings than about the bible.

He points out where the  theory falls short in this video - a great "lead"!
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theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

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Re: Why?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2022, 09:41:14 PM »
I will believe in the truth

Great! When do you plan to start?

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2022, 01:11:49 AM »
This short video (just a clip from longer version) briefly describes how the theory of gravity forming the planets is wrong. And how it's not actually explained in scientific lttterature, or at least commonly described in the main body of litterature as not fully understood.
Yet it starts off stating it is some BS about creation, from "Truth of Genesis", and the first clip is of a shuttle launch.
So clearly it isn't.
Do you mean it is BS propaganda to try to pretend the creation account of Genesis is literal truth and tries to pretend God made Earth?
I'm not going to waste my time watching 10 minutes of BS creationist propaganda.

How about you try summarising the argument, without all the creationist BS?

Or better yet, how about you try addressing the question?

Are you trying to claim that people are lying about the Earth to lead people away from God?

I will believe in the truth
You have repeatedly shown that is not the case.
Instead you have shown you believe Earth is flat regardless of what the evidence indicates and make up whatever excuses you can to pretend Earth is flat, even when you yourself provide evidence that shows Earth is not flat.

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faded mike

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Re: Why?
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2022, 05:41:49 AM »
I've seen enough to definitely want to tak to flat earthers about there ideas, unfortunatley there is something else going on here.   globalist ...shit?
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
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theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2022, 06:26:27 AM »
I've seen enough to definitely want to tak to flat earthers about there ideas, unfortunatley there is something else going on here.   globalist ...shit?

That's probably because you live on a globalist world.

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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2022, 01:27:28 PM »
I've seen enough to definitely want to tak to flat earthers about there ideas, unfortunatley there is something else going on here.
Yes, you spouting pure nonsense, to avoid the simple question:
Why would people lie and claim Earth is round if Earth was actually flat?

And if you wanted to believe the truth, you would also want to talk to REers.

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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2022, 02:26:16 PM »
An I a creationist? I will believe in the truth, and I like to believe the earth was indeed created inteligently, which if i remember correctly is what the Spike Psarris says in his videos.   He definitely isn't preaching in this video if that is your complaint, or anyones reason to not watch the video.

So are you referencing his larger series or this video. Check it out it is science based and not really about the bible - he used to be an atheist army space engineer. And actually, from memory i would say you are wrong, and the full legth video I saw, anyway, a while back is more what is wrong with the text book teachings than about the bible.

No, I don't have to reference the larger series, but I will further down. The opening on the video you posted is presented by "Creation Astronomy Media"

On his website, right at the top:

The Bible says that God created the Universe.
Secular astronomers claim that the cosmos was formed in a Big Bang event.
The Bible 
is consistent with the Universe. Secular claims are not.
The planets, stars, and galaxies in our Universe all defy secular origins models in multiple ways.


If that's not preaching the bible, I don't know what is.

At 1:33 in the video you posted:

I entered that program as an atheist and an evolutionist. I left it as a creationist and a Christian. In this video you'll discover some of the evidences that have convinced me along with many others that the Bible is true and evolution is not.

If that's not preaching the bible, I don't know what is.

In his part II video, at 1:15:

Rather than supporting the secular model our solar system is consistent with the biblical account of creation instead.

If that's not preaching the bible, I don't know what is.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2022, 05:55:14 PM »
guys please stay on topic I want to know about the motivations behind people who hide the flatness of the earth

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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2022, 07:26:35 PM »
guys please stay on topic I want to know about the motivations behind people who hide the flatness of the earth

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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2022, 10:00:08 PM »
guys please stay on topic I want to know about the motivations behind people who hide the flatness of the earth

You can't even pretend to understand the minds of lizard people. They are on a whole different level

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2022, 12:25:30 PM »
guys please stay on topic I want to know about the motivations behind people who hide the flatness of the earth

You can't even pretend to understand the minds of lizard people. They are on a whole different level

Some of my best friends are lizard people.

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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2022, 12:31:24 PM »
guys please stay on topic I want to know about the motivations behind people who hide the flatness of the earth

You can't even pretend to understand the minds of lizard people. They are on a whole different level

Some of my best friends are lizard people.

That sounds like something only a lizard person could say.   

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2022, 12:33:39 PM »
guys please stay on topic I want to know about the motivations behind people who hide the flatness of the earth

You can't even pretend to understand the minds of lizard people. They are on a whole different level

Some of my best friends are lizard people.

That sounds like something only a lizard person could say.   

You wouldn't say that if you got to know them better. :(

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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2022, 04:10:58 PM »
I have recently found myself falling into the many rabbit holes that is YouTube, only to be disappointed, amused, saddened and curious. My greatest curiosity might just be, the flat earther. Motivation, psychological state, and without being hyperbolic, intelligence/education level. Now, these are nothing more than the observations of a laymen, undergrad level science and psych liberal artist.
The first thing that strikes me is the cock sureness of those making claims showing a less than high school understanding of the basic sciences, scientific principles, or even trying to. I had a teacher in HS on who's favorite t-shirt was written, "Science doesn't care what you believe". And it doesn't, because science has facts, provable facts to substantiate its claims. Through the literally hundreds of videos making claims of a flat earth, not one presented a verifiable fact. The vast majority were observations based on an inability to understand the scale of the world around them. Not seeing the arc of the planet, not grasping the distances in space etc. Others, dismiss that which they simply can't, don't, or won't understand. Ican relate to that part, I'm no mathematician, physicist, or astronomer, but I can think, for myself. When presented with factual evidence, I don't seek to make it fit my beliefs, I adjust my beliefs to fit the evidence. Perhaps flat earthers are prone to conspiracies, there is much evidence to support that, but if you are capable of functioning in society as a whole, you also possess the capacity to see beyond the irrational and just follow the facts, regardless of what it does to your beliefs. Science, true science, is not about the answer, it's about seeking knowledge and understanding. It's constantly evolving as more is learned. Bing 500 years behind something that evolves by the minute means you are missing so much about the understanding of the wonders around us.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2022, 01:41:53 AM »


Very well put, from a swamp cabal NWO shill, I mean not really but your educated well-balanced thoughts about this will bounce straight off the forcefield of paranoia and YouTube schooled mania that is sweeping through those who like their answers simple.

Fuck, haven’t you seen the Georgia guide stones, wake up!
Life is meaningless and everything dies.

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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2022, 07:49:15 AM »
I think people could hide the fact the earth is round but why. What do they get out of paying people at NASA to do nothing? There are so many jobs you would have to bribe because they just would do nothing. And you might say they get control or power but how?
My theory is that it may involve suppressed technology. ...gravitymakes earth spherical?
That and they dont want us moving themountains so all their army men fall out.
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
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theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

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Re: Why?
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2022, 02:10:28 PM »
I think people could hide the fact the earth is round but why. What do they get out of paying people at NASA to do nothing? There are so many jobs you would have to bribe because they just would do nothing. And you might say they get control or power but how?
Someone just enjoy having the power to control everyone and they feel like they are powerful.
Earth is flat. Everyone should know that Earth is flat. If you do not know Earth is flat, you should learn about the Earth.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2022, 02:14:33 PM »
Someone just enjoy having the power to control everyone and they feel like they are powerful.
Lying about the shape of Earth doesn't let them control you.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2022, 02:35:23 PM »
if earth is flat there is more land area then normals know. any land truly hidden is power. and if there is resources in that land it is more power. and it is easy to control an big organisation if youre at the top just look at enron or many others
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Re: Why?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2022, 03:06:48 PM »
if earth is flat there is more land area then normals know.
What leads you to this conclusion?
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any land truly hidden is power. and if there is resources in that land it is more power.
That depends on the nature of the land and whether or not you can exploit the resources. And on what you can do with both.
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and it is easy to control an big organisation if youre at the top just look at enron or many others
Big organizations are easy to control? What leads you to this conclusion?
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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2022, 03:35:11 PM »
if earth is flat there is more land area then normals know. any land truly hidden is power. and if there is resources in that land it is more power. and it is easy to control an big organisation if youre at the top just look at enron or many others

Enron? What does getting busted and going bankrupt due to cooking the books have to do with earth's shape? If you want to use it as an example, then it would be an example of 'hidden power' being exposed, not still hidden.