Anchorage to Stockholm via Seattle??? Goodbye Globe, Goodbye Conventional FE

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frenat

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Has also repeatedly failed, with your claims being refuted time and time again; with you unable to offer anything to support your nonsense, and plenty to show your nonsense is wrong.
Can you explain the flight from New York to Stockholm?
A fairly short flight, and a direct one, which leaves and goes north from New York and arrives from the north in Stockholm.


New York - Vienna - Stockholm
10 hours to 12 hours for +/- 6,319 km, that's still under 800kph. :o

Try again. Fix the actual distance.

I don't know what Vienna has to do with this. But NYC to Stockholm, Finnair:

6,310 KM
6:55
500 KTS


Danang likes to troll with flights that have stopovers and hopes that people don't notice. He also doesn't understand that airplanes don't fly the entire time at max speed no matter how many times it has been pointed out.

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Calen

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Danang likes to be contrary for attention.
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JackBlack

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New York - Vienna - Stockholm
10 hours to 12 hours for +/- 6,319 km, that's still under 800kph. :o
No, roughly 7 hours to 7.5 hours.
So over 840 kph.

And that is including taxi time as well.
If you just focus on the flight time, then you are down to 6.5 to 7 hours. That gives a speed of at least 900 kph.

Quite reasonable given the planes cruise speed and that a portion of the flight will be at a much lower speed.

This is perfectly fine on a round Earth, but is impossible in your fantasy.

So no, YOU try again.
Explain how this flight works in your fantasy.

As for your false claims regarding mirages, you already have a thread for that. No need to spam this thread with that nonsense.


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Danang

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What matters is reality in the real flight, not map.

Does the flight go with straight path? Or curved path? Why going straightly to the east/west will gradually shift the latitude position to the north?

Only Phew gives the logical answer~
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Danang

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In this modern era, in intercontinental flight, if the plane's average speed is under 800 kph, that's unforgiven, even a lie.
An airplane in present day even can compete the sun. 
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Danang

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Danang likes to be contrary for attention.

Danang likes to be contrary for the truth.
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Stash

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Phew sometimes gives pics for conveniences, but it gives real links.  8)

Via Portugal??? Not "shortcut" through the north???

1. They might have found the accurate route as presented by phew before.
2. They are already for phew.

Oops both are the same! ;D

Via Portugal? That's the route this particular flight takes, decided upon by the airline TAP Air. TAP is the Portuguese Airline. So, umm, yeah, Lisbon is their hub. So what? You've already been shown a Finnair flight that is direct from JFK to Stockholm. Different airline different route. Are Airlines not allowed to non-direct flights?

And you left out the details. There's a 3 hour+ layover in Lisbon:

10:00pm - New York
John F. Kennedy Intl. (JFK)

6h 30m flight
TAP Portugal 210
Airbus A330-200
Economy/Coach (L)
Arrival9:30am - Lisbon
Humberto Delgado (LIS)

Arrives Mon, Jan 24
Layover: 3h 15m in Lisbon
Departure12:45pm - Lisbon
Humberto Delgado (LIS)

4h 25m flight
TAP Portugal 788
Economy/Coach (L)
Arrival6:10pm - Stockholm
Arlanda (ARN)

Here's a Finnair non-stop, as you said, a real link:

Departure 8:35pm - New York
John F. Kennedy Intl. (JFK)

7h 15m flight
Finnair 30
AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A350-900
Economy/Coach (H)
Arrival 9:50am - Stockholm
Arlanda (ARN)

Are you high?

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frenat

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Phew sometimes gives pics for conveniences, but it gives real links.  8)

https://www.expedia.com/Flight-Information?journeyContinuationId=AQqkAwrlAnY1LXNvcy0wOTJhMWMyOWJiY2FkODM2MzRhNjI1NTUzNGZlYThkNy0wLTAtMX4yLlN-QVFvQ0NBRVNCd2pVQkJBQkdBRW9BbGdDY0FBfkFRcFlDaW9JMUtBQkVnTXlNVEFZcVZFZ2k1SUJLTlRzZ2dJdzJ1LUNBamhNUUFCWUFXb0lSRWxUUTA5VlRsUUtLZ2pVb0FFU0F6YzRPQmlMa2dFZ29Hd29uZkdDQWpDbTg0SUNPRXhBQVZnQmFnaEVTVk5EVDFWT1ZBcFlDaW9JMUtBQkVnTTNPRE1Zb0d3Z2k1SUJLTmp6Z2dJdzRmV0NBamhNUUFCWUFXb0lSRWxUUTA5VlRsUUtLZ2pVb0FFU0F6SXdPUmlMa2dFZ3FWRW92UDZDQWpDY2dvTUNPRXhBQVZnQmFnaEVTVk5EVDFWT1ZCSUtDQUVRQVJnQktnSlVVQmdCSWdRSUFSQUJLQUlvQXlnRU1BRRHD9Shcj2iIQBoSCAESDgoHUFQzSDE1TRIDTElTGhMIAhIPCghQVDE4SDM1TRIDTElTIgEBKgUSAwoBMRI_ChYKCjIwMjItMDEtMjMSA0pGSxoDQVJOChYKCjIwMjItMDEtMjQSA0FSThoDSkZLEgcSBUNPQUNIGgIQASACIAE%3D


Via Portugal??? Not "shortcut" through the north???

1. They might have found the accurate route as presented by phew before.
2. They are already for phew.

Oops both are the same! ;D
AGAIN with a flight that is NOT nonstop. In this case YOU chose one with an airline based in Portugal. For them they would usually not be able to do a direct flight between two other countries without stopping in their own first. In the freedoms of the air, the higher numbered ones are rarer to have the right to do.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air  Plus there is the reality of hub and spoke traffic. Just because YOU are ignorant of this doesn't mean everyone else is.

YOU are dishonest in choosing a flight with a stop.
« Last Edit: January 08, 2022, 03:45:20 PM by frenat »

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JackBlack

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Phew sometimes gives pics for conveniences
You mean to pretend there is a problem and make it hard to find just what the picture actually means?
Here is a link for you:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/FIN30/history/20220108/0135Z/KJFK/ESSA
The total travel time was 7 hr 15 minutes, with 26 minutes of taxiing before takeoff and 6 after landing.

Here is another:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/FIN30/history/20220102/0135Z/KJFK/ESSA
The total travel time was 7 hr 20 minutes, and that included 21 minutes of taxi time on departure and 7 minutes on arrival.

Providing dishonest garbage where you intentionally add a stopover where you just wait for 3 hours doesn't help justify your case as it does nothing to refute the non-stop flight.

Here is another link for you:
https://www.expedia.com/Flight-Information?journeyContinuationId=AQq-AQqrAXY1LXNvcy00NmFmNDkzNzA3OWJiZWJhMzM4NWM1NTE3MmEzNmUxMC0wLTF-Mi5TfkFRb0NDQUVTQndqVUJCQUJHQUVvQWxnQmNBQX5BUW9vQ2lZSXdiSUJFZ0l6TUJpcFVTQ2diQ2lfZ29NQ01QS0Znd0k0VEVBQVdBRnFCa1ZNU1VkSVZCSUtDQUVRQVJnQktnSkJXUmdCSWdRSUFSQUJLQUlvQXlnRU1BRRHNzMzMzCx8QCoFEgMKATESKQoWCgoyMDIyLTAxLTI1EgNKRksaA0FSThIJEgVDT0FDSBgBGgIQASABIAE%3D

I provided a direct flight.
That direct flight shows your claims are pure garbage.

But even looking at your garbage, we see there is a flight from New York to Lisbon.
According to your link, that takes 6 hours and 30 minutes. Far too little for your phew nonsense.

Via Portugal??? Not "shortcut" through the north???
Yes, because you told it to. That just shows your dishonesty.

What matters is reality in the real flight, not map.
No, both matter.
But what is important is the real direct flight.

Does the flight go with straight path? Or curved path?
It follows a curved path along the surface of the globe.
It starts heading north east, and then eventually ends up heading south east, without requiring a significant turn.

Why going straightly to the east/west will gradually shift the latitude position to the north?
If you mean you start going due east and continue in a straight line following the curvature of Earth, that only happens in the south. If you try it in the north you end up going south.

This shows Earth isn't flat.
Only a RE provides a logical answer.
Only a RE explains why flights in the northern hemisphere go to the north for a shorter path while those in the southern hemisphere go south for a shorter path.

In this modern era, in intercontinental flight, if the plane's average speed is under 800 kph, that's unforgiven, even a lie.
An airplane in present day even can compete the sun.
That is only if you include taxi time. The flight I provided had an average speed above 900 kph.

As for "compete the sun" that depends on your latitude.
If you are far enough north or south, you can race the sun by walking.

Danang likes to be contrary for the truth.
You mean contrary to the truth.

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Danang

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Again:
Start from basic.

IF undoubedtly earth is flat, you have to dismiss a globe, whatever flight seem to be "coherent" with your delusional fantasy. (Gee I used Jack's line)  ;D

The next step, you have to pick between conventional FE or Phew FE.
The survey says... conventional FE is already disqualified.

As to phew, it explores actual reality as I said before: the shifting latitude, the huge broadness of Northern hemiplane, zero northwards flight at northernmost of the earth.
Not to mention speed math is strange compared to the real super speed of MODERN airplane. Under 800 kph is a joke.  :o

Case closed. Please go phew 👌
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Danang

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"Einstein might be wrong" ~ Michio Kaku

Is the modern physics that chaotic so far?
"Sensationalist celebrity physicist says sensational-sounding thing to draw attention to himself" ~ Danang, thinking he's being clever.

Einstein was definitely wrong, in that GR is obviously incomplete. Just like QM is incomplete. And Newtonian mechanics was incomplete. The list goes on. Will we have a Theory of Everything one day? Maybe, maybe not. But rest assured, if there is a ToE that's uncovered at some point, your "phew" won't be a part of it.


Einstein only built an assumption, and in his last days he regretted what he wrote/preached about physics.

When Einstein got wrong, the modern physics accordingly got doomsday.
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Danang

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As for "compete the sun" that depends on your latitude.
If you are far enough north or south, you can race the sun by walking

And modern airplane can go faster than Concorde.
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Stash

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As for "compete the sun" that depends on your latitude.
If you are far enough north or south, you can race the sun by walking

And modern airplane can go faster than Concorde.

Evidence?

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Danang

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JackBlack

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Again:
Start from basic.
IF undoubedtly earth is flat
It isn't.
All the available evidence, including flights, points to Earth being round.

As such, we have no reason to dismiss the globe.

You falsely claimed flights refute the globe, yet at every attempt you have failed to demonstrate that.
These flights refute your garbage and support the globe.

So no, we don't need to pick any delusional FE model.
We can stick to the globe. If you want us to reject it, you need to demonstrate an actual problem with the globe, not just repeatedly claiming there is one.

As to phew, it explores actual reality as I said before: the shifting latitude, the huge broadness of Northern hemiplane, zero northwards flight at northernmost of the earth.
You mean it repeatedly rejects reality and tries to substitute in pure fantasy.
There is no northern hemiplane, and the northern hemisphere is the same size as the southern.
Flights in the north do go north, just like the one I provided you still ignore.
If you were at the northern most point on Earth you would be at the north pole, and every direction is south.

Your wilful ignorance of reality will not change it.


Not to mention speed math is strange compared to the real super speed of MODERN airplane. Under 800 kph is a joke.  :o
Your inability to comprehend basic maths is not a problem for the RE, it is a problem for you.
As I demonstrated the speed is over 900 kph.
Repeating the same lie doesn't demonstrate any problem with the globe. It just demonstrates your dishonesty.

And modern airplane can go faster than Concorde.
Modern fighter jets can, commercial planes for commerical passenger transport cannot.

https://airportcodes.io/en/blog/top-10-fastest-passenger-airplanes-in-the-world/
Which show 2 faster than the Concorde.
The first was retired long ago, before the Concorde.
The second is a dream which hasn't even flown yet.

So once again, you are shown to be spouting pure garbage.

Going to the rest of the list and using large aircraft you are down at ~1100 km/hr as the MAXIMUM speed.
That is different to the cruising speed.
For example, the Airbus A380 is rated to a maximum speed of Mach 0.96.
That is the maximum speed it can tolerate and still be deemed safe.
But it's cruising speed is Mach 0.85

So the speed of the flight I provided is quite reasonable.


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Danang

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How to Say "Earth is Flat" Without Saying a Word? ^_^

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Danang

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JackBlack

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How to Say "Earth is Flat" Without Saying a Word?
Huff some glue?

Now care to address the flight I provided which has the plane go over 900 km/hr in the RE model, and which would require an insane speed for your nonsense?

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Danang

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Phew doesn't get affected by multi interpretations. Let's go to reality:



Crossing the Pacific ocean by ship on northern hemiplane around June.
Suppose you are at rest, the sun will go rightwards, but if you are sailing, and you see the sun position is seen relatively steady, as shown at 4:55 that means you are going RIGHTWARDS.

The earth is obviously PHEW  8)
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JackBlack

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Phew doesn't get affected by multi interpretations
Yes, it is quite simple to interpret and see it is pure BS.

Again, address the flight.
Stop deflecting.

Let's go to reality:
So the RE, rather than your nonsense?

Suppose you are at rest, the sun will go rightwards
No, the apparent direction of the sun will depend on where you are, and what time of year it is.
All your video shows is the sun rising from behind the horizon, showing once again that the FE is pure nonsense.

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Danang

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The path is curved going rightwards.
Okay, please dump your maps~

« Last Edit: January 13, 2022, 05:31:05 PM by Danang »
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Danang

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Northern midnight sun is just a reflection of the actual sun on the dome. 👌
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Stash

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Northern midnight sun is just a reflection of the actual sun on the dome. 👌

What dome?

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Danang

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Northern midnight sun is just a reflection of the actual sun on the dome. 👌

What dome?

The 2nd dome. Two suns phenomenon is also caused by the 2nd dome.
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Calen

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Two suns?

Any evidence of a second Sun, or of either dome?
S'ils te font de la peine, je les tuerai sans gκne.

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Stash

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Now two domes? Why not three?

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The 2nd dome. Two suns phenomenon is also caused by the 2nd dome.
Love this... you never know what he's going to come up with next.. Danang certainly provides proof of one thing; the human imagination really does have no limits.

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JackBlack

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The path is curved going rightwards.
What path?

Again, can you address how the plan manages to get there in time?
It has an average speed of over 900 km/hr on the RE.

Stop running away from this simple issue that shows your claim is nonsense.