Flat earth directions

I posted a map of flat Earth directions from reddit.  The map was moved by an admin to complete nonsense.  I agree that it is complete nonsense in the sense that I believe  a flat Earth is complete nonsense. But, the map itself is entirely accurate as far as directions that would have to be if you believe in the standard North Pole centered flat Earth map.  If you head due East or due West, you are actually heading South and eventually hit the so called "ice wall". 
For some reason posting the map itself will get this post removed.  So, I'll just ask the question.  On a flat Earth don't all straight roads (except those heading due North) eventually hit the Southern ice wall?  Even going due North, you will go through the North Pole and wind up going South to the ice wall.

I posted a map of flat Earth directions from reddit.  The map was moved by an admin to complete nonsense.  I agree that it is complete nonsense in the sense that I believe  a flat Earth is complete nonsense. But, the map itself is entirely accurate as far as directions that would have to be if you believe in the standard North Pole centered flat Earth map.  If you head due East or due West, you are actually heading South and eventually hit the so called "ice wall". 
For some reason posting the map itself will get this post removed.  So, I'll just ask the question.  On a flat Earth don't all straight roads (except those heading due North) eventually hit the Southern ice wall?  Even going due North, you will go through the North Pole and wind up going South to the ice wall.

Flat Earth General is not the right place for memes presented without commentary or analysis.  Apologies for not clarifying this.  I got distracted.

While I didn't move that thread, it was very much the right thing to do. You posted an image, and that was it. The very definition of a low content post. And your argument here is one that doesn't really work, as has been discussed before a few times (I don't think you were part of those discussions though, so you may not have seen it).

If you want to talk about how directions would work on a map like the North Pole-centered monopole map, compasses would still work basically the same in terms of telling you the 4 cardinal directions. A lot like a radial magnet with north in the middle, north is always pointed toward the center. South is just the other end of the needle, so it will point directly away from north - that means it points along the path with the shortest distance to the southern edge. East and west are always offset by 90 degrees from the north/south line. East/west paths just trace a circle (not too very different than on a globe, except on a globe technically you can go directly east or west without having to "turn" if you find yourself traveling along one very specific line of latitude).

While I didn't move that thread, it was very much the right thing to do. You posted an image, and that was it. The very definition of a low content post. And your argument here is one that doesn't really work, as has been discussed before a few times (I don't think you were part of those discussions though, so you may not have seen it).

If you want to talk about how directions would work on a map like the North Pole-centered monopole map, compasses would still work basically the same in terms of telling you the 4 cardinal directions. A lot like a radial magnet with north in the middle, north is always pointed toward the center. South is just the other end of the needle, so it will point directly away from north - that means it points along the path with the shortest distance to the southern edge. East and west are always offset by 90 degrees from the north/south line. East/west paths just trace a circle (not too very different than on a globe, except on a globe technically you can go directly east or west without having to "turn" if you find yourself traveling along one very specific line of latitude).

So, on the flat Earth, to go East and West (or really any direction other than due North or South) you have to continually make turns.  This is not how things work in reality.  Using a compass, you can go any heading and not make any turns, and never wind up at the "ice wall".

Now I understand why the map was moved.  There has been appropriate commentary, so I am posting the map that shows how all directions point to the "ice wall".

Quote from: boydster on January 03, 2022, 09:03:49 AM

While I didn't move that thread, it was very much the right thing to do. You posted an image, and that was it. The very definition of a low content post. And your argument here is one that doesn't really work, as has been discussed before a few times (I don't think you were part of those discussions though, so you may not have seen it).

If you want to talk about how directions would work on a map like the North Pole-centered monopole map, compasses would still work basically the same in terms of telling you the 4 cardinal directions. A lot like a radial magnet with north in the middle, north is always pointed toward the center. South is just the other end of the needle, so it will point directly away from north - that means it points along the path with the shortest distance to the southern edge. East and west are always offset by 90 degrees from the north/south line. East/west paths just trace a circle (not too very different than on a globe, except on a globe technically you can go directly east or west without having to "turn" if you find yourself traveling along one very specific line of latitude).

So, on the flat Earth, to go East and West (or really any direction other than due North or South) you have to continually make turns.  This is not how things work in reality.  Using a compass, you can go any heading and not make any turns, and never wind up at the "ice wall".

You continually make turns when you go East and West on a globe too, unless you are EXACTLY on the Equator. This is a silly argument. Local variables like wind or water currents and land features will have more of an effect on how "straight" you travel than the amount you need to turn, unless you find yourself very very VERY close to a pole. And as demonstrated in your post, when you try and head directly east or west today, you don't exactly notice you're having to constantly turn to maintain your heading.

In your meme map that you like so much, all southwards trajectories lead to the ice wall. I'm not sure how else to explain to you why your argument is silly. Think about the size of the Earth and how much you're actually turning to maintain a constant eastward heading at, say, the 45 degree latitude line.

Quote from: stankann on January 03, 2022, 10:29:34 AM

Quote from: boydster on January 03, 2022, 09:03:49 AM

While I didn't move that thread, it was very much the right thing to do. You posted an image, and that was it. The very definition of a low content post. And your argument here is one that doesn't really work, as has been discussed before a few times (I don't think you were part of those discussions though, so you may not have seen it).

If you want to talk about how directions would work on a map like the North Pole-centered monopole map, compasses would still work basically the same in terms of telling you the 4 cardinal directions. A lot like a radial magnet with north in the middle, north is always pointed toward the center. South is just the other end of the needle, so it will point directly away from north - that means it points along the path with the shortest distance to the southern edge. East and west are always offset by 90 degrees from the north/south line. East/west paths just trace a circle (not too very different than on a globe, except on a globe technically you can go directly east or west without having to "turn" if you find yourself traveling along one very specific line of latitude).

So, on the flat Earth, to go East and West (or really any direction other than due North or South) you have to continually make turns.  This is not how things work in reality.  Using a compass, you can go any heading and not make any turns, and never wind up at the "ice wall".

You continually make turns when you go East and West on a globe too, unless you are EXACTLY on the Equator. This is a silly argument. Local variables like wind or water currents and land features will have more of an effect on how "straight" you travel than the amount you need to turn, unless you find yourself very very VERY close to a pole. And as demonstrated in your post, when you try and head directly east or west today, you don't exactly notice you're having to constantly turn to maintain your heading.

In your meme map that you like so much, all southwards trajectories lead to the ice wall. I'm not sure how else to explain to you why your argument is silly. Think about the size of the Earth and how much you're actually turning to maintain a constant eastward heading at, say, the 45 degree latitude line.

Why do you have to "continually make turns" on a globe??  East is always east West is always West. 

If you started heading due east or due west, and went in a straight line you would eventually be heading south.
If instead you continued heading due east or west, you would travel in a circle
At a radius of 6371 km from the north pole, this would amount to turning 1 degree per ~111 km.
You would not be able to notice this.
You would need extremely precise tools to detect this.

Likewise, on the RE, if you were to travel due east anywhere other than the equator, you will be going in a circle turning in 2 directions. You would be turning down to stay on the surface of the round Earth rather than going off into space, and turning left or right to stay heading due east.

Why do you have to "continually make turns" on a globe??  East is always east West is always West.

While east is always east, the direction of east is not always the same.
If you were just following the surface, if you were north of the equator you would end up heading towards the south, crossing the equator and then heading east again and then heading north and so on.

For a simple example, consider an area near the pole, where it works just like a hypothetical flat Earth.

Quote from: boydster on January 03, 2022, 11:15:45 AM

Quote from: stankann on January 03, 2022, 10:29:34 AM

Quote from: boydster on January 03, 2022, 09:03:49 AM

While I didn't move that thread, it was very much the right thing to do. You posted an image, and that was it. The very definition of a low content post. And your argument here is one that doesn't really work, as has been discussed before a few times (I don't think you were part of those discussions though, so you may not have seen it).

If you want to talk about how directions would work on a map like the North Pole-centered monopole map, compasses would still work basically the same in terms of telling you the 4 cardinal directions. A lot like a radial magnet with north in the middle, north is always pointed toward the center. South is just the other end of the needle, so it will point directly away from north - that means it points along the path with the shortest distance to the southern edge. East and west are always offset by 90 degrees from the north/south line. East/west paths just trace a circle (not too very different than on a globe, except on a globe technically you can go directly east or west without having to "turn" if you find yourself traveling along one very specific line of latitude).

So, on the flat Earth, to go East and West (or really any direction other than due North or South) you have to continually make turns.  This is not how things work in reality.  Using a compass, you can go any heading and not make any turns, and never wind up at the "ice wall".

You continually make turns when you go East and West on a globe too, unless you are EXACTLY on the Equator. This is a silly argument. Local variables like wind or water currents and land features will have more of an effect on how "straight" you travel than the amount you need to turn, unless you find yourself very very VERY close to a pole. And as demonstrated in your post, when you try and head directly east or west today, you don't exactly notice you're having to constantly turn to maintain your heading.

In your meme map that you like so much, all southwards trajectories lead to the ice wall. I'm not sure how else to explain to you why your argument is silly. Think about the size of the Earth and how much you're actually turning to maintain a constant eastward heading at, say, the 45 degree latitude line.

Why do you have to "continually make turns" on a globe??  East is always east West is always West.

Just imagine being on the northern hemisphere on the round Earth. When you move East, you are actually turning left slowly. An easy way to think is to imagine yourself being 10meters away from the North Pole. When you move east, you are moving in a circle of 20meters in diameter. The effect decreases when you are farther away from the North Pole, but it still exist. If you keep moving straight you will eventually reach the equator.