Jwst launches in less than 3 hours

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1230 on: April 19, 2022, 11:06:45 PM »

All you have there is a bunch of unsupported claims, with no evidence for them.
The Twin towers were the tallest buildings in the city. There's going to be large numbers of people observing them at any time, Especially after a terrorist attack against one of them is reported.
If the Towers collapsed without planes, there would be videos that support that, there would be videos of of the south tower going from fine to damaged without anything hitting it.

Tens of thousands of people work in each tower, the attacks happened during the work day. There were tens of thousands of people who escaped the tower.
If you want to claim they were prevented from entering, there there absolutely WOULD be evidence of this.
Not really. Many people watched the complete WTC at New York being destroyed live on TV and it was a nice show ... but it was a show. I had earlier visited the office of the American Bureau of Shipping in one of the towers and it looked deserted already then. ABS moved out to the suburbs and nobody died. Like the JWST that took off from Earth in December and moved to space  and which is now cooling down at L2 ready to send pictures of the end of the Universe billions of light years away. People think it is fantastic. I think it is a hoax.

And thousands of people watched it in real life. In fact, there were likely thousands who’s offices were situated in such a way that they would have the towers in their field of vew while they were working.
Yes I know. I visited ABS in one of the WTC towers 1998 to discuss the Coulombi Egg tanker design (see other thread) and they were relocating and moving out to New Jersey. It seemed the tower was empty when I was there but do not tell FBI that. The two towers were structurally just like a bird cage with floors and full of air, top of which could not crush down the bottom as suggested by various structural engineers afterwards. I have myself written a scientific, peer reviewed paper about progressive structural collapses at the request of Northwestern University, Chicagb. But when I was going to present it 2013, it seemed FBI called the university and stopped my presentation - EMI - Evanston, 8/2013. Since then I do not visit USA any longer. It is not safe.
Are you real? Where was the paper reviewed? Where  can it be accessed?
Could you not provide a link?
http://heiwaco.com/emi2013.htm

Stop linking to your shitty site, link to the paper.

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« Reply #1231 on: April 19, 2022, 11:39:26 PM »

All you have there is a bunch of unsupported claims, with no evidence for them.
The Twin towers were the tallest buildings in the city. There's going to be large numbers of people observing them at any time, Especially after a terrorist attack against one of them is reported.
If the Towers collapsed without planes, there would be videos that support that, there would be videos of of the south tower going from fine to damaged without anything hitting it.

Tens of thousands of people work in each tower, the attacks happened during the work day. There were tens of thousands of people who escaped the tower.
If you want to claim they were prevented from entering, there there absolutely WOULD be evidence of this.
Not really. Many people watched the complete WTC at New York being destroyed live on TV and it was a nice show ... but it was a show. I had earlier visited the office of the American Bureau of Shipping in one of the towers and it looked deserted already then. ABS moved out to the suburbs and nobody died. Like the JWST that took off from Earth in December and moved to space  and which is now cooling down at L2 ready to send pictures of the end of the Universe billions of light years away. People think it is fantastic. I think it is a hoax.

And thousands of people watched it in real life. In fact, there were likely thousands who’s offices were situated in such a way that they would have the towers in their field of vew while they were working.
Yes I know. I visited ABS in one of the WTC towers 1998 to discuss the Coulombi Egg tanker design (see other thread) and they were relocating and moving out to New Jersey. It seemed the tower was empty when I was there but do not tell FBI that. The two towers were structurally just like a bird cage with floors and full of air, top of which could not crush down the bottom as suggested by various structural engineers afterwards. I have myself written a scientific, peer reviewed paper about progressive structural collapses at the request of Northwestern University, Chicago. But when I was going to present it 2013, it seemed FBI called the university and stopped my presentation - EMI - Evanston, 8/2013. Since then I do not visit USA any longer. It is not safe.
Are you real? Where was the paper reviewed? Where  can it be accessed?
Could you not provide a link?
http://heiwaco.com/emi2013.htm

Stop linking to your shitty site, link to the paper.
Well, I sent the paper to the EMI c/o Northwestern University, Chicago, and it was approved and published on their website but then suddenly all info/website/EMI disappeared and I had to cancel my trip ... and you have to read about it at my site. The paper is there. And I wrote it much earlier. Richard Gage, A&E 911 Truth, got an early copy, etc, etc.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1232 on: April 19, 2022, 11:58:38 PM »
From your site:

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Mr. Bjorkman:

We regret to inform you that, after further technical evaluation, the EMI 2013 conference organization found your abstract not meeting the standards of the conference. Hence, we withdraw acceptance of your abstract which will not be featured in the conference program and book of abstracts. We apologize for this very late notice due to an oversight on our side and we will process full reimbursement of your registration.

In addition, we would like to clarify that the EMI 2013 conference organization does not support and does not endorse any of the opinions you express in your website http://heiwaco.tripod.com/emi2013.htm . Hence, please, refrain yourself from using the EMI 2013 logo which is copyrighted material from our EMI 2013 conference website.

Finally, it is important to point out that, contrarily to what is stated in your website, the EMI 2013 conference organization

(1) did not peer review any full paper containing the material discussed in the aforementioned website (the EMI 2013 conference does not feature full-paper proceedings) ;

(2) your abstract was not submitted upon our invitation but rather it was one of the several hundreds of unsolicited submissions we received.

Gianluca Cusatis

EMI 2013 Conference Chair


So, essentially, you sent them an unsolicited "paper" that was so bad that they didn't even make it past the abstract. It wasn’t even rejected due technical deficiencies - the introduction was bad enough.

Also note that they specifically state, contrary to your claim, your paper has not been peer reviewed.

They wanted nothing to do with your bull. 

What an amazing fail!  ::)
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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1233 on: April 20, 2022, 02:17:01 AM »

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« Reply #1234 on: April 20, 2022, 03:01:01 AM »
From your site:

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Mr. Bjorkman:

We regret to inform you that, after further technical evaluation, the EMI 2013 conference organization found your abstract not meeting the standards of the conference. Hence, we withdraw acceptance of your abstract which will not be featured in the conference program and book of abstracts. We apologize for this very late notice due to an oversight on our side and we will process full reimbursement of your registration.

In addition, we would like to clarify that the EMI 2013 conference organization does not support and does not endorse any of the opinions you express in your website http://heiwaco.tripod.com/emi2013.htm . Hence, please, refrain yourself from using the EMI 2013 logo which is copyrighted material from our EMI 2013 conference website.

Finally, it is important to point out that, contrarily to what is stated in your website, the EMI 2013 conference organization

(1) did not peer review any full paper containing the material discussed in the aforementioned website (the EMI 2013 conference does not feature full-paper proceedings) ;

(2) your abstract was not submitted upon our invitation but rather it was one of the several hundreds of unsolicited submissions we received.

Gianluca Cusatis

EMI 2013 Conference Chair


So, essentially, you sent them an unsolicited "paper" that was so bad that they didn't even make it past the abstract. It wasn’t even rejected due technical deficiencies - the introduction was bad enough.

Also note that they specifically state, contrary to your claim, your paper has not been peer reviewed.
approved
They wanted nothing to do with your bull. 

What an amazing fail!  ::)

Can't you read? EMI contacted me! My paper was approved by EMI and put on the EMI programme and website. I prepared  my trip to Evanstone/Chicago. And suddenly EMI cancelled the whole lot. My paper was and is brilliant.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1235 on: April 20, 2022, 03:07:24 AM »
https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.693.9326&rep=rep1&type=pdf
Heiwa, you might want to read this.
I have read it years ago. Complete nonsense by Greening, e.g. we (i.e. Greening) have shown in this report that because of the failure of just one floor, a sequential collapse of all remaining 109  floors were inevitable. ROTFL Try to show it in a laboratory.

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« Reply #1236 on: April 20, 2022, 03:46:47 AM »
https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.693.9326&rep=rep1&type=pdf
Heiwa, you might want to read this.
I have read it years ago. Complete nonsense by Greening, e.g. we (i.e. Greening) have shown in this report that because of the failure of just one floor, a sequential collapse of all remaining 109  floors were inevitable. ROTFL Try to show it in a laboratory.

The author did a whole lot of calculations to back the conclusion of the paper, you have nothing.
What exactly is nonsense about this paper?
What mistakes did they make?

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1237 on: April 20, 2022, 03:47:52 AM »
The JWST's communication systems are capable of transmitting 270 Gb a day.
Crazy to think we have a 10Mb/s out to a satellite in L2 when large sections of our own planet don't have that kind of speed.
Isn't 270 Gb a day 3,125 Mb/s?
Yes, you have managed to properly divide two numbers. Do you have a further point to make?

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« Reply #1238 on: April 20, 2022, 03:48:19 AM »
Lets me ask you this question Scepti.
We have a thin wooden beam capable of holding up 500kg. It is capable of bending by 10cm before breaking.
If we drop a 10kg obect from 3 meter on to it, will it break? What about 20kg?

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« Reply #1239 on: April 20, 2022, 04:16:11 AM »

Can't you read? EMI contacted me! My paper was approved by EMI and put on the EMI programme and website. I prepared  my trip to Evanstone/Chicago. And suddenly EMI cancelled the whole lot. My paper was and is brilliant.

Yes, I can read, very well, thank you.  I am also adept at reading the meaning of things, not just the plain text.

Their letter to you says one thing to me: they had it checked by an actual engineer who reported back that it's garbage.

If your paper were brilliant they would not have later rejected it.  That they initially accepted is of no consequence, if that acceptance is later withdrawn.  This is not success. 

It is failure.

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« Reply #1240 on: April 20, 2022, 04:32:18 AM »

Can't you read? EMI contacted me! My paper was approved by EMI and put on the EMI programme and website. I prepared  my trip to Evanstone/Chicago. And suddenly EMI cancelled the whole lot. My paper was and is brilliant.

Yes, I can read, very well, thank you.  I am also adept at reading the meaning of things, not just the plain text.

Their letter to you says one thing to me: they had it checked by an actual engineer who reported back that it's garbage.

If your paper were brilliant they would not have later rejected it.  That they initially accepted is of no consequence, if that acceptance is later withdrawn.  This is not success. 

It is failure.
Read again the letter EMI sent to me. EMI contacted me earlier. I sent them my scientific paper . It was accepted and put on the EMI program and I was ready to go to the conference. And then all was cancelled and the EMI website disappeared, etc.

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« Reply #1241 on: April 20, 2022, 04:56:35 AM »
Read again the letter EMI sent to me. EMI contacted me earlier. I sent them my scientific paper . It was accepted and put on the EMI program and I was ready to go to the conference. And then all was cancelled and the EMI website disappeared, etc.

They did not contact you earlier, before you submitted your abstract.

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(2) your abstract was not submitted upon our invitation but rather it was one of the several hundreds of unsolicited submissions we received.

Such a simple lie to disprove, but OK, I'll read it again. Here is the pertinent section:

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We regret to inform you that, after further technical evaluation, the EMI 2013 conference organization found your abstract not meeting the standards of the conference. Hence, we withdraw acceptance of your abstract which will not be featured in the conference program and book of abstracts. We apologize for this very late notice due to an oversight on our side and we will process full reimbursement of your registration.

How else can one read this other than your abstract was initially accepted, but upon further inspection was deemed unacceptable?

They clearly reread your abstract, had a look at your website, and immediately realised you are a crank.

This can be evidenced by:

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In addition, we would like to clarify that the EMI 2013 conference organization does not support and does not endorse any of the opinions you express in your website http://heiwaco.tripod.com/emi2013.htm . Hence, please, refrain yourself from using the EMI 2013 logo which is copyrighted material from our EMI 2013 conference website.

So, not only did they reject your abstract, they explicitly rejected the very foundation of your abstract.

Not only is your abstract a failure; your website, in the eyes of EMI, is also a failure.
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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1242 on: April 20, 2022, 05:38:31 AM »
Read again the letter EMI sent to me. EMI contacted me earlier. I sent them my scientific paper . It was accepted and put on the EMI program and I was ready to go to the conference. And then all was cancelled and the EMI website disappeared, etc.

They did not contact you earlier, before you submitted your abstract.

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(2) your abstract was not submitted upon our invitation but rather it was one of the several hundreds of unsolicited submissions we received.

Such a simple lie to disprove, but OK, I'll read it again. Here is the pertinent section:

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We regret to inform you that, after further technical evaluation, the EMI 2013 conference organization found your abstract not meeting the standards of the conference. Hence, we withdraw acceptance of your abstract which will not be featured in the conference program and book of abstracts. We apologize for this very late notice due to an oversight on our side and we will process full reimbursement of your registration.

How else can one read this other than your abstract was initially accepted, but upon further inspection was deemed unacceptable?

They clearly reread your abstract, had a look at your website, and immediately realised you are a crank.

This can be evidenced by:

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In addition, we would like to clarify that the EMI 2013 conference organization does not support and does not endorse any of the opinions you express in your website http://heiwaco.tripod.com/emi2013.htm . Hence, please, refrain yourself from using the EMI 2013 logo which is copyrighted material from our EMI 2013 conference website.

So, not only did they reject your abstract, they explicitly rejected the very foundation of your abstract.

Not only is your abstract a failure; your website, in the eyes of EMI, is also a failure.
Here we discuss  JWST 2022 (a hoax)  and you start to discuss my invitation to the EMI 2013 conference about structural collapses by terrorists 2001. Why do you change the topic/subject?

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« Reply #1243 on: April 20, 2022, 10:01:20 PM »
Lets me ask you this question Heiwa
We have a thin wooden beam capable of holding up 500kg. It is capable of bending by 10cm before breaking.
If we drop a 10kg obect from 3 meter on to it, will it break? What about 20kg?

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« Reply #1244 on: April 21, 2022, 09:33:49 AM »
Lets me ask you this question Heiwa
We have a thin wooden beam capable of holding up 500kg. It is capable of bending by 10cm before breaking.
If we drop a 10kg obect from 3 meter on to it, will it break? What about 20kg?
You don't need to keep quoting yourself. He can't reply for a few more days. I forgot to update the ban list thread in AR, but that's why he isn't replying right now.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1245 on: April 29, 2022, 05:18:05 AM »
https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-alignment-complete

Looks like they finished aligning the mirrors and have finishes with the focusing stage.  Now we start getting the pretty pictures!

Mirrors are nearly cooled down to their planned operating levels as well.


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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1246 on: April 29, 2022, 06:17:34 AM »
Lets me ask you this question Heiwa
We have a thin wooden beam capable of holding up 500kg. It is capable of bending by 10cm before breaking.
If we drop a 10kg obect from 3 meter on to it, will it break? What about 20kg?
You don't need to keep quoting yourself. He can't reply for a few more days. I forgot to update the ban list thread in AR, but that's why he isn't replying right now.
Topic is the JWST taking pictures of the end of the Universe, where stars are born, etc. I have just updated http://heiwaco.com/moontravelb.htm recommending the JWST to take a picture of planet Pluto in our Solar system as a start.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1247 on: April 29, 2022, 09:35:11 AM »
All of this weeks space exploration updates including JWST's latest alignment:



A lot is going on up there.

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« Reply #1248 on: April 29, 2022, 10:37:19 AM »
Lets me ask you this question Heiwa
We have a thin wooden beam capable of holding up 500kg. It is capable of bending by 10cm before breaking.
If we drop a 10kg obect from 3 meter on to it, will it break? What about 20kg?
You don't need to keep quoting yourself. He can't reply for a few more days. I forgot to update the ban list thread in AR, but that's why he isn't replying right now.
Topic is the JWST taking pictures of the end of the Universe, where stars are born, etc. I have just updated http://heiwaco.com/moontravelb.htm recommending the JWST to take a picture of planet Pluto in our Solar system as a start.

New horizons already took pictures in more detail then the JWST did.

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« Reply #1249 on: April 29, 2022, 01:58:06 PM »
Lets me ask you this question Heiwa
We have a thin wooden beam capable of holding up 500kg. It is capable of bending by 10cm before breaking.
If we drop a 10kg obect from 3 meter on to it, will it break? What about 20kg?
You don't need to keep quoting yourself. He can't reply for a few more days. I forgot to update the ban list thread in AR, but that's why he isn't replying right now.
Topic is the JWST taking pictures of the end of the Universe, where stars are born, etc. I have just updated http://heiwaco.com/moontravelb.htm recommending the JWST to take a picture of planet Pluto in our Solar system as a start.

New horizons already took pictures in more detail then the JWST did.
Yes, it took New Horizons seven years to do it. JWST has still not managed it even if I asked NASA to do it as a test.

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« Reply #1250 on: April 29, 2022, 02:01:30 PM »
Lets me ask you this question Heiwa
We have a thin wooden beam capable of holding up 500kg. It is capable of bending by 10cm before breaking.
If we drop a 10kg obect from 3 meter on to it, will it break? What about 20kg?
You don't need to keep quoting yourself. He can't reply for a few more days. I forgot to update the ban list thread in AR, but that's why he isn't replying right now.
Topic is the JWST taking pictures of the end of the Universe, where stars are born, etc. I have just updated http://heiwaco.com/moontravelb.htm recommending the JWST to take a picture of planet Pluto in our Solar system as a start.

New horizons already took pictures in more detail then the JWST did.
Yes, it took New Horizons seven years to do it. JWST has still not managed it even if I asked NASA to do it as a test.
You didn't ask NASA. You made a post on a website that only bots visit. NASA isn't paying attention. Why don't you just sit back and wait to see the great images JWST shares?

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« Reply #1251 on: April 29, 2022, 06:00:48 PM »
Yes, it took New Horizons seven years to do it. JWST has still not managed it even if I asked NASA to do it as a test.
NASA takes imaging requests from professional astronomers who submit their requests through proper channels, not from random internet conspiracy theory nutters like you.
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« Reply #1252 on: April 29, 2022, 08:24:52 PM »
Yes, it took New Horizons seven years to do it. JWST has still not managed it even if I asked NASA to do it as a test.
NASA takes imaging requests from professional astronomers who submit their requests through proper channels, not from random internet conspiracy theory nutters like you.
I doubt it. Planet Pluto is flying around only 5.5 light minutes away from JWST and and a photo of it is a must as a test. The closest star is light years away in the Milky Way galaxy. But the purpose of the JWST is to check the dark end of Universe billions of light years away, which I wonder how JWST can see. It is really far away. BTW I am not a conspiracy nutter. I simply don't believe in people having watched/witnessed/survived nuclear bombs exploding above them in Japan 1945, or US heroes saying that they have been in space and pissed on the Moon. I know they are liars. 

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1253 on: April 29, 2022, 10:52:46 PM »
It seems we have to wait another two months for some real data from JWST:
Alignment of NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope is now complete. After full review, the observatory has been confirmed to be capable of capturing crisp, well-focused images with each of its four powerful onboard and science instruments. Upon completing the seventh and final stage of telescope alignment, the team held a set of key decision meetings and unanimously agreed that Webb is ready to move forward into its next and final series of preparations, known as science instrument commissioning. This process will take about two months before scientific operations begin in the summer.
https://blogs.nasa.gov/webb/2022/04/28/nasas-webb-in-full-focus-ready-for-instrument-commissioning/

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« Reply #1254 on: April 30, 2022, 01:05:13 AM »
Yes, it took New Horizons seven years to do it. JWST has still not managed it even if I asked NASA to do it as a test.
NASA takes imaging requests from professional astronomers who submit their requests through proper channels, not from random internet conspiracy theory nutters like you.
I doubt it. Planet Pluto is flying around only 5.5 light minutes away from JWST and and a photo of it is a must as a test.

Says who? I think we'll leave the decision regarding tests to the professionals, not a conspiracy nutter such as yourself.

I am not a conspiracy nutter.

Yes you are.

I know they are liars.

No you don't.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1255 on: April 30, 2022, 01:16:55 AM »
Yes, it took New Horizons seven years to do it. JWST has still not managed it even if I asked NASA to do it as a test.
NASA takes imaging requests from professional astronomers who submit their requests through proper channels, not from random internet conspiracy theory nutters like you.
I doubt it. Planet Pluto is flying around only 5.5 light minutes away from JWST and and a photo of it is a must as a test.

Says who? I think we'll leave the decision regarding tests to the professionals, not a conspiracy nutter such as yourself.

I am not a conspiracy nutter.

Yes you are.

I know they are liars.

No you don't.

Some years back I met some US asstronuts (?) at the Monaco Yacht Club that told us that they had visited the International Space Station 400 kms above us. I asked them why they never filmed their visits to the toilet up there. They had no answers. It was obvious they had never been there. Paid actors.

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« Reply #1256 on: April 30, 2022, 04:04:14 AM »
Says who? I think we'll leave the decision regarding tests to the professionals, not a conspiracy nutter such as yourself.

They do sometimes open them up to non-professionals which is cool.  NASA and other large telescopes sometimes hold open house events where they ask for suggestions from the audience and in real time point some of the big telescopes at them.  I've been to one of them and it's very cool to get to see how things function as well as actually get to direct it.

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« Reply #1257 on: April 30, 2022, 07:14:18 AM »
Says who? I think we'll leave the decision regarding tests to the professionals, not a conspiracy nutter such as yourself.

They do sometimes open them up to non-professionals which is cool.  NASA and other large telescopes sometimes hold open house events where they ask for suggestions from the audience and in real time point some of the big telescopes at them.  I've been to one of them and it's very cool to get to see how things function as well as actually get to direct it.
Yes, it is cool to look into a telescope 20 billion light years back to the end of the Universe. But there is nothing there.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1258 on: April 30, 2022, 09:33:50 AM »
I doubt it. Planet Pluto is flying around only 5.5 light minutes away from JWST and and a photo of it is a must as a test. The closest star is light years away in the Milky Way galaxy. But the purpose of the JWST is to check the dark end of Universe billions of light years away, which I wonder how JWST can see. It is really far away.
If you can see the ends of the universe from your window, then why shouldn't JWST be able to see it from space? ???

BTW I am not a conspiracy nutter. I simply don't believe in people having watched/witnessed/survived nuclear bombs exploding above them in Japan 1945, or US heroes saying that they have been in space and pissed on the Moon. I know they are liars.
That's pretty much the definition of a conspiracy nutter.
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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #1259 on: May 03, 2022, 01:32:17 PM »
https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/james-webb-space-telescope-expectations/

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