Jwst launches in less than 3 hours

Quote from: Heiwa on January 31, 2022, 05:02:41 PM

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Quote from: Curiouser and Curiouser on January 31, 2022, 11:29:32 AM

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Quote from: Curiouser and Curiouser on January 30, 2022, 09:56:16 PM

A simple explanation with some force diagrams.

Awesome video! What a great explainer of some mind-blowing, super complex engineering.

Complete rubbish. The L2 point is moving all the time at high speed and can never be reached however you try to aim for it.

Show us why you have such an opinion.

Easy!
Planet Earth is moving in one direction at a certain spreed in 3D space and the Lagrange point L2 is also moving in same direction at another speed in 3D space. Both orbit the Sun at different distances. The distance between Earth and L2  is therefore fixed all the time.
It seems you just have to fly straight away from Planet Earth with the Sun behind you to reach L2, but then you are slowed down all the time due to Sun and Earth gravity forces, while always orbiting Earth.

Speed relative the Sun must be zero at arrival L2 in your orbit around Earth, but then you drop back to Earth again due to gravity. You cannot stop and orbit around L2. Only complete idiots believe so.

“It can’t be done because I say so.”

Yawn.

You’re not very good at this.

More precisely, it can't be done because he doesn't understand it and refuses to learn.

Plenty people say they can fly to the Moon that we see in the sky moving about at high speed. The Moon orbits Earth that orbits the Sun. It takes only five days one way, but nobody can say how it is done. Same with the invisible L2 point in space. Plenty people have sent spacecrafts to L2 but cannot really explain how it is done.

Oh? So you agree now that plenty people HAVE sent spacecrafts to L2. Glad to see you’ve conceded that point. Since you still claim that nobody knows how this works, you’ll have to present evidence of how many people you’ve interviewed. Are you close to the requisite 7.9 billion?

“It can’t be done because I say so.”

Yawn.

You’re not very good at this.

No, plenty people just say they have sent spacecrafts to L2, like the JWST hoax now orbiting L2. It is religious! They believe their nonsense.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 31, 2022, 09:41:29 PM

No, plenty people just say they have sent spacecrafts to L2, like the JWST hoax now orbiting L2. It is religious! They believe their nonsense.

Unlike you, they have evidence to justify their belief.

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Quote from: Heiwa on January 31, 2022, 09:41:29 PM

No, plenty people just say they have sent spacecrafts to L2, like the JWST hoax now orbiting L2. It is religious! They believe their nonsense.

Unlike you, they have evidence to justify their belief.

They have no evidence of their fantasies.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 31, 2022, 11:25:21 PM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on January 31, 2022, 10:34:15 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 31, 2022, 09:41:29 PM

No, plenty people just say they have sent spacecrafts to L2, like the JWST hoax now orbiting L2. It is religious! They believe their nonsense.

Unlike you, they have evidence to justify their belief.

They have no evidence of their fantasies.

My goodness, the delusions never cease to amaze me.

Independent corroboration all over the globe of sightings, imaging, video, tracking, communications, telemetry, etc. all evidence. Plus 1000s of articles, papers, books, calculations from people with actual knowledge from all around the world. All evidence of feasibility, design, engineering, and execution.

And what do you have for evidence? Literally nothing. Zero.

The only thing you have is just you saying so. As C&C said, yawn. You’re not very good at this.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 31, 2022, 11:25:21 PM

Quote from: Masalang the Torpedo on January 31, 2022, 10:34:15 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on January 31, 2022, 09:41:29 PM

No, plenty people just say they have sent spacecrafts to L2, like the JWST hoax now orbiting L2. It is religious! They believe their nonsense.

Unlike you, they have evidence to justify their belief.

They have no evidence of their fantasies.

My goodness, the delusions never cease to amaze me.

Independent corroboration all over the globe of sightings, imaging, video, tracking, communications, telemetry, etc. all evidence. Plus 1000s of articles, papers, books, calculations from people with actual knowledge from all around the world. All evidence of feasibility, design, engineering, and execution.

And what do you have for evidence? Literally nothing. Zero.

The only thing you have is just you saying so. As C&C said, yawn. You’re not very good at this.

No, I am just not aware of any independent corroboration of JWST arriving at L2 and starting orbiting it. Just plenty people suggesting it happened.

Quote from: Heiwa on February 01, 2022, 04:55:46 AM

No, I am just not aware of any independent corroboration of JWST arriving at L2 and starting orbiting it. Just plenty people suggesting it happened.

You realize that just because you are not aware of something, that other people might be aware of that something, right? Or do you think you are the center of the universe and your beliefs/opinions/POV are the only things that matter to all of humanity?




JWST on New Year's Eve 2021.
Gianluca Masi/Virtual Telescope Project




NASA's James Webb Space Telescope is visible at L2 in this image, seen as a tiny white speck next to the arrow. (Image credit: Gianluca Masi/The Virtual Telescope Project)

Quote from: Stash on February 01, 2022, 09:43:28 AM

Quote from: Heiwa on February 01, 2022, 04:55:46 AM

No, I am just not aware of any independent corroboration of JWST arriving at L2 and starting orbiting it. Just plenty people suggesting it happened.

You realize that just because you are not aware of something, that other people might be aware of that something, right? Or do you think you are the center of the universe and your beliefs/opinions/POV are the only things that matter to all of humanity?




JWST on New Year's Eve 2021.
Gianluca Masi/Virtual Telescope Project




NASA's James Webb Space Telescope is visible at L2 in this image, seen as a tiny white speck next to the arrow. (Image credit: Gianluca Masi/The Virtual Telescope Project)

Yes, all fake pictures. Just a white dot moving towards L2. ROTFL.

No, plenty people just say they have sent spacecrafts to L2, like the JWST hoax now orbiting L2. It is religious! They believe their nonsense.

Quote from: Heiwa on January 31, 2022, 09:41:29 PM

No, plenty people just say they have sent spacecrafts to L2, like the JWST hoax now orbiting L2. It is religious! They believe their nonsense.

Actually, only a relative few spacecraft have been sent to L2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_objects_at_Lagrange_points#L2

But plenty people are behind those fake spacecrafts at L2. None of them can explain how to stop at L2 while orbiting Earth. Once in orbit always in orbit and if you stop in orbit, you drop back on what you orbited. It is basic astro-dynamics!

lol Heiwa is in way over his head. He already sounded like a dumbarse in the other thread he claimed, but at least he had his story somewhat straight. He cant do anything but trip over his own trolling here. Go back to your other thread Heiwa. We know you're only joking and deliberately saying stupid shit to give yourself a rise. It's embarrassing for you

Geez, if your going to argue about a subject at least get the facts right about the subject you are arguing about. You cant even do that!!

Here's what we've learned from Heiwa to date:

- The Moon orbits Earth that orbits the Sun. Yet somehow the Earth is the center of the universe, a universe that has no end, yet there is "center"
- Plenty of people have sent spacecrafts to L2 but they have no idea how they did it

Heiwa is presented with dozens of papers/articles/books/imagery/testing of how it's done from experts in the field(s) (He, obviously, is not an expert) from around the world, dependent and independent sources, and says, "It's all fake...I know it is because I can look out my window..."

And somehow he doesn't realize the idiocy of his statements. It's a remarkable level of hubris combined with patheticism I can't say I've ever encountered before.

Quote from: Stash on February 02, 2022, 11:55:27 AM

Here's what we've learned from Heiwa to date:

- The Moon orbits Earth that orbits the Sun. Yet somehow the Earth is the center of the universe, a universe that has no end, yet there is "center"
- Plenty of people have sent spacecrafts to L2 but they have no idea how they did it

Heiwa is presented with dozens of papers/articles/books/imagery/testing of how it's done from experts in the field(s) (He, obviously, is not an expert) from around the world, dependent and independent sources, and says, "It's all fake...I know it is because I can look out my window..."

And somehow he doesn't realize the idiocy of his statements. It's a remarkable level of hubris combined with patheticism I can't say I've ever encountered before.

Better to quote me from my website. I do everything in writing under my own name to avoid being misunderstood.

Quote from: Heiwa on February 02, 2022, 12:47:20 PM

Quote from: Stash on February 02, 2022, 11:55:27 AM

Here's what we've learned from Heiwa to date:

- The Moon orbits Earth that orbits the Sun. Yet somehow the Earth is the center of the universe, a universe that has no end, yet there is "center"
- Plenty of people have sent spacecrafts to L2 but they have no idea how they did it

Heiwa is presented with dozens of papers/articles/books/imagery/testing of how it's done from experts in the field(s) (He, obviously, is not an expert) from around the world, dependent and independent sources, and says, "It's all fake...I know it is because I can look out my window..."

And somehow he doesn't realize the idiocy of his statements. It's a remarkable level of hubris combined with patheticism I can't say I've ever encountered before.

Better to quote me from my website. I do everything in writing under my own name to avoid being misunderstood.

Doesn't matter. There's literally nothing on your website that can even remotely compete with people that actually study, publish, and execute this stuff for a living.

You might as well just delete all of the nonsense you have there and just write, "I know this to be true because I look out my window."

Quote from: Stash on February 02, 2022, 12:58:29 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on February 02, 2022, 12:47:20 PM

Quote from: Stash on February 02, 2022, 11:55:27 AM

Here's what we've learned from Heiwa to date:

- The Moon orbits Earth that orbits the Sun. Yet somehow the Earth is the center of the universe, a universe that has no end, yet there is "center"
- Plenty of people have sent spacecrafts to L2 but they have no idea how they did it

Heiwa is presented with dozens of papers/articles/books/imagery/testing of how it's done from experts in the field(s) (He, obviously, is not an expert) from around the world, dependent and independent sources, and says, "It's all fake...I know it is because I can look out my window..."

And somehow he doesn't realize the idiocy of his statements. It's a remarkable level of hubris combined with patheticism I can't say I've ever encountered before.

Better to quote me from my website. I do everything in writing under my own name to avoid being misunderstood.

Doesn't matter. There's literally nothing on your website that can even remotely compete with people that actually study, publish, and execute this stuff for a living.

You might as well just delete all of the nonsense you have there and just write, "I know this to be true because I look out my window."

It is just your opinion.  i have a popular website where I present my findings. What do you have?

Quote from: Heiwa on February 02, 2022, 01:00:24 PM

Quote from: Stash on February 02, 2022, 12:58:29 PM

Quote from: Heiwa on February 02, 2022, 12:47:20 PM

Quote from: Stash on February 02, 2022, 11:55:27 AM

Here's what we've learned from Heiwa to date:

- The Moon orbits Earth that orbits the Sun. Yet somehow the Earth is the center of the universe, a universe that has no end, yet there is "center"
- Plenty of people have sent spacecrafts to L2 but they have no idea how they did it

Heiwa is presented with dozens of papers/articles/books/imagery/testing of how it's done from experts in the field(s) (He, obviously, is not an expert) from around the world, dependent and independent sources, and says, "It's all fake...I know it is because I can look out my window..."

And somehow he doesn't realize the idiocy of his statements. It's a remarkable level of hubris combined with patheticism I can't say I've ever encountered before.

Better to quote me from my website. I do everything in writing under my own name to avoid being misunderstood.

Doesn't matter. There's literally nothing on your website that can even remotely compete with people that actually study, publish, and execute this stuff for a living.

You might as well just delete all of the nonsense you have there and just write, "I know this to be true because I look out my window."

It is just your opinion.  i have a popular website where I present my findings. What do you have?

Hilarious. My opinion? You're one to talk. Ye of zero evidence and all opinion based upon your "findings" by just looking out your window.

More hilarity...I don't even have a website but it's just as popular than yours...

We all know that it is suggested that the L2 spot (A) orbits the Sun at one altitude/distance/direction/velocity and (B) orbits Earth at another altitude/distance/direction/velocity  but (C) that an object cannot orbit two objects at the same time. Reason is that L2 is not an object.

Quote from: Heiwa on February 02, 2022, 07:09:06 PM

We all know that it is suggested that the L2 spot (A) orbits the Sun at one altitude/distance/direction/velocity and (B) orbits Earth at another altitude/distance/direction/velocity  but (C) that an object cannot orbit two objects at the same time. Reason is that L2 is not an object.

“An object cannot orbit two objects at the same time.”

Moon orbit Earth.
Moon orbits Sun.

Heiwa has stopped even trying.

Only planets orbit the Sun.

I know that NASA says that the Moon orbits the Sun, but NASA says so because it is taught by schools and universities in the USA.

And today the JWST orbits not only the Sun and the Earth but also L2.

Only planets orbit the Sun.

Quote from: Heiwa on February 02, 2022, 10:22:24 PM

Only planets orbit the Sun.

What about asteroids and comets? Dont they orbit the sun too?

Also, the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter is orbiting the moon which is orbiting the Earth which is orbiting the Sun which is orbiting Sagittarius A* which itself is moving towards 'The Great Attractor'

You are right. But the JWST doesn't orbit anything. It doesn't even fly in space and is just a hoax on Earth with plenty participants. People just see a rocket taking off and think that it 200 days later lands on planet Mars because they are told so, etc, etc.

Quote from: Heiwa on February 03, 2022, 03:04:03 AM

You are right. But the JWST doesn't orbit anything. It doesn't even fly in space and is just a hoax on Earth with plenty participants. People just see a rocket taking off and think that it 200 days later lands on planet Mars because they are told so, etc, etc.

As I said before, this is why it's impossible to have a productive discussion with you.  You keep asking for explanations for things that you either don't understand or will simply dismiss as fake.  Why should anyone bother explaining anything to you?