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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #60 on: January 02, 2022, 09:10:06 AM »
I look forward to the JWST look at the Betelguese star - http://heiwaco.com/moontravelb.htm#B - even if I can see it from my window.


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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #61 on: January 02, 2022, 01:36:07 PM »
No wonder you can see it, it's the 10th brightest star out there. With JWST (and Hubble) we can image stars you can't really see. That's kinda the point.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #62 on: January 02, 2022, 10:24:35 PM »
No wonder you can see it, it's the 10th brightest star out there. With JWST (and Hubble) we can image stars you can't really see. That's kinda the point.
So JWST can image something I cannot really see. Thanks for the information.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2022, 09:16:38 AM »
No wonder you can see it, it's the 10th brightest star out there. With JWST (and Hubble) we can image stars you can't really see. That's kinda the point.
So JWST can image something I cannot really see. Thanks for the information.

JWST can image something with much greater resolution and detail than you can see from looking out your window.
Do you wear glasses? Have you ever used binoculars or a telescope? Those are all things to help you see something you might not be able to see at all, or at least with greater clarity. It's not a difficult concept yet you are having difficulty with it.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2022, 11:02:24 PM »
No wonder you can see it, it's the 10th brightest star out there. With JWST (and Hubble) we can image stars you can't really see. That's kinda the point.
So JWST can image something I cannot really see. Thanks for the information.

JWST can image something with much greater resolution and detail than you can see from looking out your window.
Do you wear glasses? Have you ever used binoculars or a telescope? Those are all things to help you see something you might not be able to see at all, or at least with greater clarity. It's not a difficult concept yet you are having difficulty with it.
I happen to have a great view of the Mediterranean Sea from my windows so of course I have binoculars handy to watch the ships passing out there and the sunrise at the horizon each morning in good weather. From that I have concluded that planet Earth is the center of our Solar system and the complete Universe. To send the JWST to the Earth/Moon Lagrange point 2 at 150 million kilometers away in space doesn't change anything. The JWST still orbits the Earth and everything else that orbits the Earth in the Universe. Better to remain on Earth and watch the show from there.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2022, 01:59:07 AM »
I happen to have a great view of the Mediterranean Sea from my windows so of course I have binoculars handy to watch the ships passing out there and the sunrise at the horizon each morning in good weather. From that I have concluded that planet Earth is the center of our Solar system and the complete Universe.
Who needs astronomers wed you have Anders looking at ships with his binoculars?
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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2022, 06:10:57 AM »
I happen to have a great view of the Mediterranean Sea from my windows so of course I have binoculars handy to watch the ships passing out there and the sunrise at the horizon each morning in good weather. From that I have concluded that planet Earth is the center of our Solar system and the complete Universe.
Who needs astronomers wed you have Anders looking at ships with his binoculars?
Topic is the James Webb telescope at Lagrange point 2 orbiting Earth and the Moon to observe the end of the Universe from there. I just do the same thing from my window at home.

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« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2022, 06:21:58 AM »
Of course you do.   :-*
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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2022, 10:34:17 AM »
I happen to have a great view of the Mediterranean Sea from my windows so of course I have binoculars handy to watch the ships passing out there and the sunrise at the horizon each morning in good weather. From that I have concluded that planet Earth is the center of our Solar system and the complete Universe.
Who needs astronomers wed you have Anders looking at ships with his binoculars?
Topic is the James Webb telescope at Lagrange point 2 orbiting Earth and the Moon to observe the end of the Universe from there. I just do the same thing from my window at home.

Got any pictures from your window that show the end of the universe?

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2022, 05:38:42 PM »
Topic is the James Webb telescope at Lagrange point 2 orbiting Earth and the Moon to observe the end of the Universe from there.
L2 does not orbit the earth or moon.  It orbits the sun.

I just do the same thing from my window at home.
No, you don't.
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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2022, 11:05:32 PM »
Topic is the James Webb telescope at Lagrange point 2 orbiting Earth and the Moon to observe the end of the Universe from there.
L2 does not orbit the earth or moon.  It orbits the sun.

I just do the same thing from my window at home.
No, you don't.

In this case the Earth/Moon L2 point orbits planet Earth. Just look out of your window. The Sun/Earth L2 point is much further away as it orbits the Sun. Question remains, if it the Earth that orbits the Sun or vice versa? From my point of view it is the Sun that orbits the Earth.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2022, 11:12:22 PM »
Topic is the James Webb telescope at Lagrange point 2 orbiting Earth and the Moon to observe the end of the Universe from there.
L2 does not orbit the earth or moon.  It orbits the sun.

I just do the same thing from my window at home.
No, you don't.

In this case the Earth/Moon L2 point orbits planet Earth. Just look out of your window. The Sun/Earth L2 point is much further away as it orbits the Sun. Question remains, if it the Earth that orbits the Sun or vice versa? From my point of view it is the Sun that orbits the Earth.

You're an idiot ::)

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2022, 11:48:09 PM »
Topic is the James Webb telescope at Lagrange point 2 orbiting Earth and the Moon to observe the end of the Universe from there.
L2 does not orbit the earth or moon.  It orbits the sun.

I just do the same thing from my window at home.
No, you don't.

In this case the Earth/Moon L2 point orbits planet Earth. Just look out of your window. The Sun/Earth L2 point is much further away as it orbits the Sun. Question remains, if it the Earth that orbits the Sun or vice versa? From my point of view it is the Sun that orbits the Earth.

You're an idiot ::)
No, fact remains that anything - a space ship - taking off from Earth to enter space orbits Earth all the time until it tries, e.g. to land on the Moon (which is not possible). Anything taking off from the Moon will first orbit the Moon and then drop down on Earth at increasing speed. The JWST has apparently taken off from Earth last month, which it still orbits. The JWST shall apparently arrive at the L2 point after some time and then remain there while  continuing orbiting the Earth.

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« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2022, 12:54:56 AM »
Topic is the James Webb telescope at Lagrange point 2 orbiting Earth and the Moon to observe the end of the Universe from there.
L2 does not orbit the earth or moon.  It orbits the sun.

I just do the same thing from my window at home.
No, you don't.

In this case the Earth/Moon L2 point orbits planet Earth. Just look out of your window. The Sun/Earth L2 point is much further away as it orbits the Sun. Question remains, if it the Earth that orbits the Sun or vice versa? From my point of view it is the Sun that orbits the Earth.

You're an idiot ::)
No, fact remains that anything - a space ship - taking off from Earth to enter space orbits Earth all the time until it tries, e.g. to land on the Moon (which is not possible). Anything taking off from the Moon will first orbit the Moon and then drop down on Earth at increasing speed. The JWST has apparently taken off from Earth last month, which it still orbits. The JWST shall apparently arrive at the L2 point after some time and then remain there while  continuing orbiting the Earth.

Case in point. You're an idiot ::)

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2022, 04:06:56 AM »
Topic is the James Webb telescope at Lagrange point 2 orbiting Earth and the Moon to observe the end of the Universe from there.
L2 does not orbit the earth or moon.  It orbits the sun.

I just do the same thing from my window at home.
No, you don't.

In this case the Earth/Moon L2 point orbits planet Earth. Just look out of your window. The Sun/Earth L2 point is much further away as it orbits the Sun. Question remains, if it the Earth that orbits the Sun or vice versa? From my point of view it is the Sun that orbits the Earth.

You're an idiot ::)
No, fact remains that anything - a space ship - taking off from Earth to enter space orbits Earth all the time until it tries, e.g. to land on the Moon (which is not possible). Anything taking off from the Moon will first orbit the Moon and then drop down on Earth at increasing speed. The JWST has apparently taken off from Earth last month, which it still orbits. The JWST shall apparently arrive at the L2 point after some time and then remain there while  continuing orbiting the Earth.

Case in point. You're an idiot ::)
You just repeat yourself, so I'll give you a chance. Explain!

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #75 on: January 05, 2022, 07:05:49 AM »
Topic is the James Webb telescope at Lagrange point 2 orbiting Earth and the Moon to observe the end of the Universe from there.
L2 does not orbit the earth or moon.  It orbits the sun.

I just do the same thing from my window at home.
No, you don't.

In this case the Earth/Moon L2 point orbits planet Earth. Just look out of your window. The Sun/Earth L2 point is much further away as it orbits the Sun. Question remains, if it the Earth that orbits the Sun or vice versa? From my point of view it is the Sun that orbits the Earth.

You're an idiot ::)
No, fact remains that anything - a space ship - taking off from Earth to enter space orbits Earth all the time until it tries, e.g. to land on the Moon (which is not possible). Anything taking off from the Moon will first orbit the Moon and then drop down on Earth at increasing speed. The JWST has apparently taken off from Earth last month, which it still orbits. The JWST shall apparently arrive at the L2 point after some time and then remain there while  continuing orbiting the Earth.

Case in point. You're an idiot ::)
You just repeat yourself, so I'll give you a chance. Explain!

I've done some digging and I've uncovered substantial evidence that backs up Shifter's claim.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #76 on: January 06, 2022, 02:05:02 PM »
In this case the Earth/Moon L2 point orbits planet Earth. Just look out of your window. The Sun/Earth L2 point is much further away as it orbits the Sun.
Yes, the Webb telescope is going to a halo orbit around the Earth/Sun L2 point.



Question remains, if it the Earth that orbits the Sun or vice versa? From my point of view it is the Sun that orbits the Earth.
That depends on whether you take a geocentric or heliocentric view of the solar system.
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« Reply #77 on: January 06, 2022, 10:22:58 PM »
In this case the Earth/Moon L2 point orbits planet Earth. Just look out of your window. The Sun/Earth L2 point is much further away as it orbits the Sun.
Yes, the Webb telescope is going to a halo orbit around the Earth/Sun L2 point.



Question remains, if it the Earth that orbits the Sun or vice versa? From my point of view it is the Sun that orbits the Earth.
That depends on whether you take a geocentric or heliocentric view of the solar system.
Halo orbit at L2? You need a mass to orbit around and at L2 there is no mass to orbit around.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #78 on: January 07, 2022, 12:38:32 AM »
You need a mass to orbit around and at L2 there is no mass to orbit around.

Your ignorance and dumbarsery never cease to amaze us. Keep giving us laughs.

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« Reply #79 on: January 07, 2022, 05:16:24 AM »
You need a mass to orbit around and at L2 there is no mass to orbit around.

Your ignorance and dumbarsery never cease to amaze us. Keep giving us laughs.
Fact is that there is nothing to orbit around at L2.

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« Reply #80 on: January 07, 2022, 08:24:29 AM »
You need a mass to orbit around and at L2 there is no mass to orbit around.

Your ignorance and dumbarsery never cease to amaze us. Keep giving us laughs.

You're speaking to Heiwa, a man who thinks space toilets aren't a thing.

Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #81 on: January 07, 2022, 11:45:10 AM »
You need a mass to orbit around and at L2 there is no mass to orbit around.

Your ignorance and dumbarsery never cease to amaze us. Keep giving us laughs.
Fact is that there is nothing to orbit around at L2.

There is no mass at L2 that is the source of the gravitational well. The masses of the Sun and Earth balance to provide a gravitational null point around which a satellite can orbit, albeit with minor periodic corrections since it is unstable. So while your fact is correct, your conclusion is not.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #82 on: January 07, 2022, 06:11:24 PM »
It has nearly achieved its final form. Soon its true purpose will be clear!
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« Reply #83 on: January 07, 2022, 10:28:34 PM »
It has nearly achieved its final form. Soon its true purpose will be clear!

The pollywog is almost a frog?

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #84 on: January 07, 2022, 10:49:31 PM »
It has nearly achieved its final form. Soon its true purpose will be clear!

The pollywog is almost a frog?

Well if you want to rob it of it's drama then yes.
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« Reply #85 on: January 07, 2022, 10:52:17 PM »
It has nearly achieved its final form. Soon its true purpose will be clear!

The pollywog is almost a frog?

Well if you want to rob it of it's drama then yes.


Your description scared me.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #86 on: January 07, 2022, 11:14:18 PM »
You need a mass to orbit around and at L2 there is no mass to orbit around.

Your ignorance and dumbarsery never cease to amaze us. Keep giving us laughs.
Fact is that there is nothing to orbit around at L2.

There is no mass at L2 that is the source of the gravitational well. The masses of the Sun and Earth balance to provide a gravitational null point around which a satellite can orbit, albeit with minor periodic corrections since it is unstable. So while your fact is correct, your conclusion is not.
Thanks to agree that the space of the Universe/Solar system at the L2 point is empty. Question remains why anything should orbit around the emptiness at L2? Isn't it enough just to be there and moving with it? Because L2 is a fast moving point in 3D space ... and quite difficult to find.

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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #87 on: January 07, 2022, 11:16:07 PM »
It has nearly achieved its final form. Soon its true purpose will be clear!

The pollywog is almost a frog?

Well if you want to rob it of it's drama then yes.


Your description scared me.

Good!  You should be scared.  Science is not some disneyland Niel Degrasse Tyson bullshit.

It's Mary Shelley's Frankenstein creating a sex robot that ends up killing you!
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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #88 on: January 07, 2022, 11:44:23 PM »
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Re: Jwst launches in less than 3 hours
« Reply #89 on: January 08, 2022, 12:33:46 AM »
It's Mary Shelley's Frankenstein creating a sex robot that ends up killing you!

Well, as long as the sex is good then what the hell. We all gotta die someday. May as well be in the throws of passion

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