Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")

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Mikey T.

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #180 on: November 04, 2021, 02:17:52 PM »
What i am saying is that the sun setting is not like this.
That was not meant to represent the sun setting. It was an example of curvature (of the bridge).

The sun is very large, very far away, a huge (do we know how big?) broad spectrum light source.
Yes, it is many times the size of Earth, at a distance many times the size of Earth away.

This means it isn't simply setting because it is going far away.
It is setting because Earth blocks the view, because Earth is round.

And yes, we do know how big.

But yet again, you have shown your colours by running from the previous argument and trying to go elsewhere.

Why can't you find a single issue and stick to it? Why do you need to keep jumping around?
Yes, but when you check for the curvature in real life, it is not their it seems to me. And I am not prepared to believe what could just be some naysayer on the fes.
The fact that the Sun sets, is evidence of curvature.  Happens every day.  Why do you say you can't check curvature in real life?  Are you actually looking for it?  I could say that baby pigeons do not exist because there are none in my back yard.  But if I never go and actually look for them where they are then I am just wrong.  If you think that the tiny spec of a human, when compared to the size of the Earth, can just look out your mom's basement window and see the curvature then you are doing the same thing and are just as wrong.  It has been explained ad nauseum that the size of the Earth compared to a human is so large that the actual degrees of arc that you can observe less than what the human eye can resolve. 

Let me dumb it down for you..  Earth big, you small and too close to big ball Earth to see enough to notice curve. 

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #181 on: November 05, 2021, 04:23:04 PM »
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Yes, but when you check for the curvature in real life, it is not their it seems to me.
You can't see curvature 'in real life'. At least not from ground level. So I don't see it either. But that doesn't lead me to conclude that the Earth is flat because I know it isn't and I also know the reason why I don't see any curvature.  You on the other hand seem to think that because you can't see any curvature, that proves the Earth is flat. Which of course it doesn't.

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there is the cold moonlight phenomenon which I believe to be true
Really. Why do you believe that to be true? What data have you collected that shows you that Moonlight has any effect on temperature? What fraction of the solar energy that the Moon receives does it reflect? Or do you believe it just because it sounds good?


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faded mike

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #182 on: November 09, 2021, 11:12:24 PM »
I want some one to demonstrate that as of 2015 2016 when this thing boomed... may not be absolutely correct in saying that, show how before any kindof organized response may have started, there were more pix showing the correct curvature than showing flat.
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
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theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

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faded mike

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #183 on: November 09, 2021, 11:13:29 PM »
Or something along these lines.
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
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theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

kids: say no to drugs

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faded mike

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #184 on: November 10, 2021, 12:17:19 AM »
Back to this in a bit probably.
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
           -them

theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

kids: say no to drugs

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faded mike

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« Reply #185 on: November 10, 2021, 12:36:35 AM »
in my light but particular research of alternative science

Your research of "alternative science" -- I've never heard of such a thing. Is it like "alternative facts"?
back in the day, you probably werent born yet, or maybe your too old - around 2000 when protestors of th g7 wto world bank , and all the multinational global corporations were buying water rights from villagrers and worse attrocities - back when these protestors were being illegally brutalized by the armed guard on hand - they started "indy media", also there was alternative media. This alternative facts you speak of I would suggest is some political thing I am not familiar with - sounds cool though.
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
           -them

theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

kids: say no to drugs

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JackBlack

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #186 on: November 10, 2021, 02:18:24 AM »
I want some one to demonstrate that as of 2015 2016 when this thing boomed... may not be absolutely correct in saying that, show how before any kindof organized response may have started, there were more pix showing the correct curvature than showing flat.
Or, why don't you try demonstrating that as of that time, there were more pictures showing Earth to be flat, rather than curved, and rather than flat or curved?

Again, you seem to just want Earth to be flat and are looking for whatever excuse you can to pretend it is; rather than actually providing a reason to why anyone should think it is flat.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #187 on: November 10, 2021, 09:26:59 AM »
Back to this in a bit probably.

you're so bad faithed.
you have no intention of actually having a discussion or presenting anything.
be gone.

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Stash

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #188 on: November 10, 2021, 02:41:40 PM »
Back to this in a bit probably.

Back to what? Is it really that hard for you to be specific about something, stick to a point, and actually make a point? Why so perpetually obtuse and all over the place?

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Calen

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #189 on: November 11, 2021, 12:31:40 AM »
Back to this in a bit probably.

Back to what? Is it really that hard for you to be specific about something, stick to a point, and actually make a point? Why so perpetually obtuse and all over the place?

Obfuscation.

They know that if they allow us to look too deeply into their theories, it immediately becomes apparent that they are little more than a disparate collection of ideas held together with fantasy and delusion.
S'ils te font de la peine, je les tuerai sans gêne.

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #190 on: November 11, 2021, 02:23:21 AM »
What i am saying is that the sun setting is not like this.
That was not meant to represent the sun setting. It was an example of curvature (of the bridge).

The sun is very large, very far away, a huge (do we know how big?) broad spectrum light source.
Yes, it is many times the size of Earth, at a distance many times the size of Earth away.

This means it isn't simply setting because it is going far away.
It is setting because Earth blocks the view, because Earth is round.

And yes, we do know how big.

But yet again, you have shown your colours by running from the previous argument and trying to go elsewhere.

Why can't you find a single issue and stick to it? Why do you need to keep jumping around?
Yes, but when you check for the curvature in real life, it is not their it seems to me. And I am not prepared to believe what could just be some naysayer on the fes.
The fact that the Sun sets, is evidence of curvature.  Happens every day.  Why do you say you can't check curvature in real life?  Are you actually looking for it?  I could say that baby pigeons do not exist because there are none in my back yard.  But if I never go and actually look for them where they are then I am just wrong.  If you think that the tiny spec of a human, when compared to the size of the Earth, can just look out your mom's basement window and see the curvature then you are doing the same thing and are just as wrong.  It has been explained ad nauseum that the size of the Earth compared to a human is so large that the actual degrees of arc that you can observe less than what the human eye can resolve. 

Let me dumb it down for you..  Earth big, you small and too close to big ball Earth to see enough to notice curve.
You do know the Sun can just leave our point of view by the Earth rotating and the face of it facing away from the Sun right?

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JackBlack

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #191 on: November 11, 2021, 02:27:31 AM »
You do know the Sun can just leave our point of view by the Earth rotating and the face of it facing away from the Sun right?
Yes, we know that the round Earth rotating can cause the sun to set and disappear from our FOV as Earth obstructs the view.

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ChineseHobo123

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #192 on: November 11, 2021, 02:37:22 AM »
You do know the Sun can just leave our point of view by the Earth rotating and the face of it facing away from the Sun right?
Yes, we know that the round Earth rotating can cause the sun to set and disappear from our FOV as Earth obstructs the view.
I should've been clearer: Yes if the earth was round then it rotating would cause a sunset but, with the flat Earth, sunsets are caused by the Earth rotating to the point where the face of the earth (the top side) is facing away from the Sun.

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JackBlack

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #193 on: November 11, 2021, 02:39:59 AM »
You do know the Sun can just leave our point of view by the Earth rotating and the face of it facing away from the Sun right?
Yes, we know that the round Earth rotating can cause the sun to set and disappear from our FOV as Earth obstructs the view.
I should've been clearer: Yes if the earth was round then it rotating would cause a sunset but, with the flat Earth, sunsets are caused by the Earth rotating to the point where the face of the earth (the top side) is facing away from the Sun.
Great we can do away with time zones, with the sun rising and setting for everyone at once. They are so annoying.

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ChineseHobo123

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #194 on: November 11, 2021, 03:03:22 AM »
You do know the Sun can just leave our point of view by the Earth rotating and the face of it facing away from the Sun right?
Yes, we know that the round Earth rotating can cause the sun to set and disappear from our FOV as Earth obstructs the view.
I should've been clearer: Yes if the earth was round then it rotating would cause a sunset but, with the flat Earth, sunsets are caused by the Earth rotating to the point where the face of the earth (the top side) is facing away from the Sun.
Great we can do away with time zones, with the sun rising and setting for everyone at once. They are so annoying.
Exactly, flat Earth supremacy

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #195 on: November 11, 2021, 05:24:18 AM »
I should've been clearer: Yes if the earth was round then it rotating would cause a sunset but, with the flat Earth, sunsets are caused by the Earth rotating to the point where the face of the earth (the top side) is facing away from the Sun.

That might be the worst explanation ever for  sunset on a flat earth.  IF that were true (which it obviously isn't), the sun would have to set at the same moment everywhere. It could not set at one location and still be visible elsewhere.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #196 on: November 11, 2021, 05:58:40 AM »
Thanks for expkaining jackBs joke.
Clearly china dodnt get it.
Haha

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Mikey T.

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #197 on: November 11, 2021, 05:58:51 AM »
I should've been clearer: Yes if the earth was round then it rotating would cause a sunset but, with the flat Earth, sunsets are caused by the Earth rotating to the point where the face of the earth (the top side) is facing away from the Sun.

That might be the worst explanation ever for  sunset on a flat earth.  IF that were true (which it obviously isn't), the sun would have to set at the same moment everywhere. It could not set at one location and still be visible elsewhere.
It's just a troll, Plat.  Don't feed it too much.

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faded mike

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #198 on: November 12, 2021, 05:31:36 PM »
Hey, no trollin, mikey t.. and kabool... wtwf dup
« Last Edit: November 12, 2021, 06:24:55 PM by faded mike »
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
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theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

kids: say no to drugs

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faded mike

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #199 on: November 12, 2021, 05:37:40 PM »
Back to this in a bit probably.

you're so bad faithed.
you have no intention of actually having a discussion or presenting anything.
be gone.
I am trying to figure out the truth. You sound like a know it all.
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
           -them

theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

kids: say no to drugs

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JackBlack

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #200 on: November 12, 2021, 06:08:15 PM »
Hey, no trollin, mikey t.. and kabool... wtf
I am trying to figure out the truth. You sound like a know it all.
You come here, spout a bunch of crap, and then flee from it when it is shown that it doesn't support your claims, only to thing bring it up later.
You spout loads and loads of separate claims, jumping around between them rather than trying to stick to one claim and deal with it in full.
You refuse to put in the time and effort to defend your claims.
You claim you don't have time, but then you spend plenty of time spamming loads of nonsense.
And you look for whatever excuse you can to try to pretend Earth is flat.

That is not someone looking for the truth.
They are the actions of a troll pretending to know the truth and that everyone else must be wrong.

If you were actually trying to figure out the truth, you wouldn't just be looking for whatever crap you think might support a FE and spamming it.
Instead you would examine the evidence, piece by piece, and try to conclude if it supports a RE, a FE, or neither.
You wouldn't act like Earth MUST be flat and look for excuses. Instead you would accept the evidence that indicates Earth is round does indicate Earth is round.

If you want people to revaluate you, then start putting in some good faith effort.
Wait until you actually have time to discuss the issue, then present a single issue which you think supports the FE, as a reason for why you believe, and then deal directly with that until you can either show that it does actually support a FE, or you admit that it doesn't and that either it supports the RE, or doesn't preferentially support either.

Definitely don't just drop in, spout some nonsense, and say you will get to it later.

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Themightykabool

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #201 on: November 12, 2021, 11:10:04 PM »
maybe faded can stop with the pleading and answer simple questions

when the cars go over the peak of the bridge, does the viewer at ground level see a distinct edge?
are the cars disappearing bottom-top or top-bottom or just getting smaller?
why are the cars disappearing?
can you see the curvature of the bridge from this angle?

pause at 1:04 and once again pause at 1:13


What i am saying is that the sun setting is not like this. The sun is very large, very far away, a huge (do we know how big?) broad spectrum light source. I believe their are many unkowns that you cant answer for.
can you imagine a scenario where 2 lazer next to each other would affect each others transmission through space? I think something like this could be a factor too.

Ok non-troll man.
Lets see your true colours then because youve avoided this 3times and twice deferrring to the sun.


What im saying is dont use the sun.

A distant boat.
A distant building across a lake.
A distant volcano island on the sea.

Is the same geometric phenomina of bottom-up not observed?

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faded mike

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #202 on: November 16, 2021, 05:20:26 PM »
Just a correction - I forgot i knew roughly what zetetic means, it was a feeling of being categorized whcich seemed incorrect. I am not anti zetetic but i think in a normal circumstance working together is important
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
           -them

theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

kids: say no to drugs

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #203 on: November 16, 2021, 06:28:31 PM »
Just a correction - I forgot i knew roughly what zetetic means, it was a feeling of being categorized whcich seemed incorrect. I am not anti zetetic but i think in a normal circumstance working together is important

What does this have to do with anything?

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Themightykabool

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #204 on: November 17, 2021, 04:31:10 AM »
Just a correction - I forgot i knew roughly what zetetic means, it was a feeling of being categorized whcich seemed incorrect. I am not anti zetetic but i think in a normal circumstance working together is important

What does this have to do with anything?


Nothing
It avoids the very specific and easily answered question that was asked of him.
Hes the great avoider.

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Solarwind

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #205 on: November 17, 2021, 04:43:20 AM »
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Just a correction - I forgot i knew roughly what zetetic means
As I understand it, the term 'zetetic' basically means relying on ones own senses to gather evidence. So does that mean since the Sun and Moon look the same size in the sky, that must mean (to a zeteticist) the Sun and Moon are physically the same size?  Even though we know they are not? That would of course help some FE models where the Sun and Moon are circling above the flat sarface of the Earth.

Does zeteticism not take distance into account then?
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Themightykabool

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #206 on: November 17, 2021, 05:26:10 AM »
maybe faded can stop with the pleading and answer simple questions

when the cars go over the peak of the bridge, does the viewer at ground level see a distinct edge?
are the cars disappearing bottom-top or top-bottom or just getting smaller?
why are the cars disappearing?
can you see the curvature of the bridge from this angle?

pause at 1:04 and once again pause at 1:13


What i am saying is that the sun setting is not like this. The sun is very large, very far away, a huge (do we know how big?) broad spectrum light source. I believe their are many unkowns that you cant answer for.
can you imagine a scenario where 2 lazer next to each other would affect each others transmission through space? I think something like this could be a factor too.

Ok non-troll man.
Lets see your true colours then because youve avoided this 3times and twice deferrring to the sun.


What im saying is dont use the sun.

A distant boat.
A distant building across a lake.
A distant volcano island on the sea.

Is the same geometric phenomina of bottom-up not observed?

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faded mike

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« Reply #207 on: January 04, 2022, 11:55:04 PM »
in my light but particular research of alternative science

Your research of "alternative science" -- I've never heard of such a thing. Is it like "alternative facts"?
Explain alternative facts.
I think it's just like "alternative science," in that it's an alternative to seeking out the truth.
Do you think i am not justified to use the term alternative science on this website?
« Last Edit: January 04, 2022, 11:57:31 PM by faded mike »
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
           -them

theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

kids: say no to drugs

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faded mike

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #208 on: January 05, 2022, 12:08:27 AM »
Just a correction - I forgot i knew roughly what zetetic means, it was a feeling of being categorized whcich seemed incorrect. I am not anti zetetic but i think in a normal circumstance working together is important

What does this have to do with anything?


Nothing
It avoids the very specific and easily answered question that was asked of him.
Hes the great avoider.
i decided not to talk to you a long time ago. Why, because you are insulting to try to make people look stupid, and at best it seem to me you try to reiterate what your opostition says as "the old______ routine" and leave it at that. without offering much of relevance.
"Using our vast surveillance system, we've uncovered revolutionary new information..."
           -them

theoretical formula for Earths curvature = 8 inches multiplied by (miles squared) = inches drop from straight forward

kids: say no to drugs

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Themightykabool

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Re: Some reasons I believe FET (prev. "check my FET")
« Reply #209 on: January 05, 2022, 12:19:16 AM »
Just a correction - I forgot i knew roughly what zetetic means, it was a feeling of being categorized whcich seemed incorrect. I am not anti zetetic but i think in a normal circumstance working together is important

What does this have to do with anything?


Nothing
It avoids the very specific and easily answered question that was asked of him.
Hes the great avoider.
i decided not to talk to you a long time ago. Why, because you are insulting to try to make people look stupid, and at best it seem to me you try to reiterate what your opostition says as "the old______ routine" and leave it at that. without offering much of relevance.

i'll have a discussion with anyone.
pleasantries ended though long time ago when you showed you are bad faith discusser.
skipping from one topic to the next without addressing anything.

feel free to bring up something of relevance.
you not talking to me now isn't really a big deal becuase you werent then or before - you were having a conversation with yourself.
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