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« on: September 25, 2021, 02:01:21 AM »
take any 3 digit number (as per original instruction, oh wait , some rules - (1) - it cant have any repeating number like 11 / 22 / 88 in it, (2) - must be dscending numbers like 654 or 643 or 841 - these do not always spply, but will always work if so)

so you take your number and subtract from it its reverse - like 654 - 456.
now take your answer and add to it its reverse.
the answer is supposedly always 1089!
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2021, 02:06:29 AM »
I know this might sound crazy but i think it might be some bad minded people into this stuff so investigate with caution IF AT ALL - probably a lot of people don't want you to know about this if it is a useful secret which i think it might be... not sure.

Edit - I may have been irational in saying this, sorry if I offended.
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2021, 12:53:45 PM »
Quote from: faded mike on September 25, 2021, 02:06:29 AM
I know this might sound crazy but i think it might be some bad minded people into this stuff so investigate with caution IF AT ALL - probably a lot of people don't want you to know about this if it is a useful secret which i think it might be... not sure.

Yes, it does sound crazy - Bad-minded? Who are the people that don't want you to know about this "useful secret"? Magicians?

Apparently the secret is out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1089_(number)

There's nothing secret about it. I mean there's a wikipedia page about it for god's sake...
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2021, 08:13:18 PM »
They probably aint telling us have the strory like usual.
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2021, 11:34:27 AM »
Quote from: faded mike on September 26, 2021, 08:13:18 PM
They probably aint telling us have the strory like usual.

What might be the other half? And who is "they"?
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2021, 08:29:12 PM »
The only question whose answer is guarded more secretly then the answer to your second question.
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2021, 08:50:32 PM »
Quote from: faded mike on September 27, 2021, 08:29:12 PM
The only question whose answer is guarded more secretly then the answer to your second question.

You're not making any sense. What is this "secret" that doesn't seem to exist you keep thinking does exist. Like I wrote, there's no hidden "mystery".

1089 is a Reverse divisible number and there are many others:

In number theory, reversing the digits of a number n sometimes produces another number m that is divisible by n. This happens trivially when n is a palindromic number; the nontrivial reverse divisors are

1089, 2178, 10989, 21978, 109989, 219978, 1099989, 2199978, ... (sequence A008919 in the OEIS).
For instance, 1089 ื 9 = 9801, the reversal of 1089, and 2178 ื 4 = 8712, the reversal of 2178.[1][2][3][4] The multiples produced by reversing these numbers, such as 9801 or 8712, are sometimes called palintiples.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_divisible_number

Does everything you don't understand have to be some conspiratorial endeavor?
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2021, 01:43:06 PM »
Thanks for posting that info Stash.
 
To be honest i dont really know and was kindof joking, but
 I am going to have to look at that, as i  think I heard the mayans counted in 9's ( ? instead of 10's ? )  and i always thought they used it to predict the celestial calendar which described most if not all celestial events for something like 400 thousand years (ending 2012) with uncanny accuracy.
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2021, 01:48:08 PM »
Quote from: faded mike on September 30, 2021, 01:43:06 PM
I am going to have to look at that, as i  think I heard the mayans counted in 9's ( ? instead of 10's ? )
It was base 20, not 9.
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2021, 06:25:58 PM »
Oh yeah...
i think they had a thing with counting with nines too.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2021, 11:37:05 AM »
Quote from: faded mike on October 01, 2021, 06:25:58 PM
Oh yeah...
i think they had a thing with counting with nines too.

Maya numerals
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2021, 07:38:13 PM »
Thanks stash.
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2021, 07:56:14 PM »
Quote from: Stash on September 27, 2021, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: faded mike on September 27, 2021, 08:29:12 PM
The only question whose answer is guarded more secretly then the answer to your second question.

You're not making any sense. What is this "secret" that doesn't seem to exist you keep thinking does exist. Like I wrote, there's no hidden "mystery".

1089 is a Reverse divisible number and there are many others:

In number theory, reversing the digits of a number n sometimes produces another number m that is divisible by n. This happens trivially when n is a palindromic number; the nontrivial reverse divisors are

1089, 2178, 10989, 21978, 109989, 219978, 1099989, 2199978, ... (sequence A008919 in the OEIS).
For instance, 1089 ื 9 = 9801, the reversal of 1089, and 2178 ื 4 = 8712, the reversal of 2178.[1][2][3][4] The multiples produced by reversing these numbers, such as 9801 or 8712, are sometimes called palintiples.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_divisible_number

Does everything you don't understand have to be some conspiratorial endeavor?
It doesn't have to be a conspiracy but megalithic polygonal ancient construction - as is found in ancient mexican ruins and all over the world - it's pretty hard to sweep under the rug so to speak. Have you looked into that? Not that they are necessarily related, but like i said - I am under the impression that they may have come from the same time and place...Many yrs ago i read a 300 page book about the nayan calendar and i remeber distincly they talked about some aort of 9 based counting.
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2021, 09:27:04 PM »
Quote from: faded mike on October 05, 2021, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: Stash on September 27, 2021, 08:50:32 PM
Quote from: faded mike on September 27, 2021, 08:29:12 PM
The only question whose answer is guarded more secretly then the answer to your second question.

You're not making any sense. What is this "secret" that doesn't seem to exist you keep thinking does exist. Like I wrote, there's no hidden "mystery".

1089 is a Reverse divisible number and there are many others:

In number theory, reversing the digits of a number n sometimes produces another number m that is divisible by n. This happens trivially when n is a palindromic number; the nontrivial reverse divisors are

1089, 2178, 10989, 21978, 109989, 219978, 1099989, 2199978, ... (sequence A008919 in the OEIS).
For instance, 1089 ื 9 = 9801, the reversal of 1089, and 2178 ื 4 = 8712, the reversal of 2178.[1][2][3][4] The multiples produced by reversing these numbers, such as 9801 or 8712, are sometimes called palintiples.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_divisible_number

Does everything you don't understand have to be some conspiratorial endeavor?
It doesn't have to be a conspiracy but megalithic polygonal ancient construction - as is found in ancient mexican ruins and all over the world - it's pretty hard to sweep under the rug so to speak. Have you looked into that? Not that they are necessarily related, but like i said - I am under the impression that they may have come from the same time and place...Many yrs ago i read a 300 page book about the nayan calendar and i remeber distincly they talked about some aort of 9 based counting.

Do you mean this:

"Polygonal masonry is a technique of stone wall construction. True polygonal masonry is a technique wherein the visible surfaces of the stones are dressed with straight sides or joints, giving the block the appearance of a polygon.[1]
This technique is found throughout the world and sometimes corresponds to the less technical category of Cyclopean masonry."
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2021, 09:54:03 PM »
I'm not familiar with the "true polygonal masonry" designation. The point to me is that they  seem impossibly large and carved to fit together so randomly that I heard they would have had to have been put in place and removed over and over again to get them shaped right. I heard that every bump is met with an opposing indentation on their touching sides.

Is there a whole wikipedia page?

edit - i can see they wouldnt necessarily have to have been moved over and over - i heard they may have been fvibrated into shape though.
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2021, 11:18:48 PM »
Quote from: faded mike on October 05, 2021, 09:54:03 PM
I'm not familiar with the "true polygonal masonry" designation. The point to me is that they  seem impossibly large and carved to fit together so randomly that I heard they would have had to have been put in place and removed over and over again to get them shaped right.

Is there a whole wikipedia page?

Here’s an interesting and comprehensive starting point. About a 10 minute read:

Polygonal Masonry

Remember, measure twice, cut once.
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Re: 1089
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2021, 09:07:16 AM »
 721            754                      843                  421
-127           -457                     -348                 -124
-------          -------                     -------                -------
  598             297                       495                   297
+985         +792                    +594                +792
----------      --------                    --------                 --------
    1089       1089                     1089                  1089                           

Edit - first calculation should be 594 - , calculation is wrong.
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Re: 1089
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2021, 10:08:23 AM »
Quote from: faded mike on October 06, 2021, 09:07:16 AM
721            754                      843                  421
-127           -457                     -348                 -124
-------          -------                     -------                -------
  598             297                       495                   297
+985         +792                    +594                +792
----------      --------                    --------                 --------
    1089       1089                     1089                  1089                         

So what? You can add and subtract numbers. Well done.

And what does that have to do with masonry?
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2021, 04:14:07 AM »
Quote from: faded mike on October 05, 2021, 07:56:14 PM
Many yrs ago i read a 300 page book about the nayan calendar and i remeber distincly they talked about some aort of 9 based counting.
Well, that's convinced me.   ::)
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2021, 04:09:51 PM »
Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on October 07, 2021, 04:14:07 AM
Quote from: faded mike on October 05, 2021, 07:56:14 PM
Many yrs ago i read a 300 page book about the nayan calendar and i remeber distincly they talked about some aort of 9 based counting.
Well, that's convinced me.   ::)
Doesn't it look to youlike their might be something very interesting gong on with this (math)?
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2021, 04:24:28 PM »
Quote from: faded mike on October 08, 2021, 04:09:51 PM
Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on October 07, 2021, 04:14:07 AM
Quote from: faded mike on October 05, 2021, 07:56:14 PM
Many yrs ago i read a 300 page book about the nayan calendar and i remeber distincly they talked about some aort of 9 based counting.
Well, that's convinced me.   ::)
Doesn't it look to youlike their might be something very interesting gong on with this (math)?

So what about 9 based counting? Why don't you describe what it is, what it does, and why it's interesting.
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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2021, 02:57:20 AM »
Quote from: faded mike on October 08, 2021, 04:09:51 PM
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Quote from: faded mike on October 05, 2021, 07:56:14 PM
Many yrs ago i read a 300 page book about the nayan calendar and i remeber distincly they talked about some aort of 9 based counting.
Well, that's convinced me.   ::)
Doesn't it look to youlike their might be something very interesting gong on with this (math)?
Maths is interesting.  What is your point?
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Re: 1089
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2021, 03:53:27 PM »
This is making the rounds of Twitter today. I think it is very interesting http://calculusmadeeasy.org/

You can get the ebook here https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/33283 
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2021, 12:36:22 AM »
Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on October 09, 2021, 02:57:20 AM
Quote from: faded mike on October 08, 2021, 04:09:51 PM
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Many yrs ago i read a 300 page book about the nayan calendar and i remeber distincly they talked about some aort of 9 based counting.
Well, that's convinced me.   ::)
Doesn't it look to youlike their might be something very interesting gong on with this (math)?
Maths is interesting.  What is your point?
Can you explain the sentiment of your question?
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Re: 1089 the number with a hundred factors.
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2021, 01:41:42 AM »
Quote from: faded mike on October 12, 2021, 12:36:22 AM
Quote from: JimmyTheCrab on October 09, 2021, 02:57:20 AM
Quote from: faded mike on October 08, 2021, 04:09:51 PM
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Quote from: faded mike on October 05, 2021, 07:56:14 PM
Many yrs ago i read a 300 page book about the nayan calendar and i remeber distincly they talked about some aort of 9 based counting.
Well, that's convinced me.   ::)
Doesn't it look to youlike their might be something very interesting gong on with this (math)?
Maths is interesting.  What is your point?
Can you explain the sentiment of your question?

Not to speak for jimmy, but all you are saying is that something interests you. So, what’s your point other than telling us you are interested in something? Get it?
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Re: 1089
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2021, 11:32:27 PM »
I get it - you don't really find it too interesting! Why dont you tell me something you find interesting or tell me why this is nothing special.
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Re: 1089
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2021, 11:38:38 PM »
Thanks Space cowgirl - I'm gonna look at that.
Their must be some crazy stuff beyond what one can imagine in the study of mathematcis.
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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2021, 11:40:42 PM »

heres a bit of a breakdown of the trick
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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2021, 09:01:14 AM »
6174 is known as Kaprekar's constant after the Indian mathematician D. R. Kaprekar. This number is notable for the following rule:

- Take any four-digit number, using at least two different digits (leading zeros are allowed).
- Arrange the digits in descending and then in ascending order to get two four-digit numbers, adding leading zeros if necessary.
- Subtract the smaller number from the bigger number.
- Go back to step 2 and repeat.
The above process, known as Kaprekar's routine, will always reach its fixed point, 6174, in at most 7 iterations. Once 6174 is reached, the process will continue yielding 7641 – 1467 = 6174. For example, choose 1495:

9541 – 1459 = 8082
8820 – 0288 = 8532
8532 – 2358 = 6174
7641 – 1467 = 6174
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Re: 1089
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2021, 12:59:03 AM »
Quote from: Stash on October 22, 2021, 09:01:14 AM
6174 is known as Kaprekar's constant after the Indian mathematician D. R. Kaprekar. This number is notable for the following rule:

- Take any four-digit number, using at least two different digits (leading zeros are allowed).
- Arrange the digits in descending and then in ascending order to get two four-digit numbers, adding leading zeros if necessary.
- Subtract the smaller number from the bigger number.
- Go back to step 2 and repeat.
The above process, known as Kaprekar's routine, will always reach its fixed point, 6174, in at most 7 iterations. Once 6174 is reached, the process will continue yielding 7641 – 1467 = 6174. For example, choose 1495:

9541 – 1459 = 8082
8820 – 0288 = 8532
8532 – 2358 = 6174
7641 – 1467 = 6174
Is the principal understood?
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