Vaccine Mandates in Communist New York and other cities

So now the mayor of New York mandates prove of vaccine when entering restaurants, theaters, entertainment venues and basically most places in general. Other cities like New Orleans and Los Angeles followed. I'm honestly ashamed that these people live in the same country as I do. These commie dictators have no place in America and our supreme court is once again asleep at the wheel. This is the most unconstitutional mandate ever made and people still do not protest. Although some attorneys are suing the government for this it is not enough. We should all be on the streets right now asking for our rights to be restored. This is a damn shame.

I actually hope that when they refuse service to unvaxed black people they would file massive law suits against New York and other communist cities that require this. This is George Orwell 2021 not 1984 LOL

This is worse then Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, people need to wake the fuck up.

Nazi Germany? No. Obviously this is nazi Germany crossed with the handmaids tale multiplied by communist Russia.

To be honest, I find it a little suspicious that you're under playing what is inarguably the worst thing to happen in the history of the universe.

They're literally sending the unvaxxed to the gulag!

This is unacceptable!

If I want to kill people via disease, I should have EVER RIGHT TO!
I should also have the freedom to drive drunk.
Fire weapons into the air wildly in celebration.
And carry around radioactive materials without shielding because FREEDOM!  YEAH!

And you know what else?  I should be allowed to go anywhere BAREFOOT! Fuck you and your "No shoes, no shirts, no service" crap!  This is AMERICA!

#DicksOutForCovid!!!

Go communism!  Go Biden!  #StoleTheElectrionFromYouSuckas

I'm confused, don't you like Nazis? Didn't Trump say they were good people? Are you saying Trump was wrong to praise Nazis?

Trump never said anything good about Nazis, Trump made all his money side by side with Jewish investors, Trump is practically a Jew. Only retards think that Trump is for Nazis, fucking ridiculous. Vaccine is medical records and medical records are subject to privacy laws. Why do you think doctors only talk to patients when they find something wrong with them. Why do you think Medical records are not released even to your relatives without your permission. Your health and your body should be a matter of personal choice not government mandates. Refusal of service because you are not vaccinated violates civil rights act of 1964 along with every civil liberties act ever signed. Liberals yell from rooftops that abortion is woman's choice cause its her body, well in the same way I have the right not to be vaccinated cause its my body.

Trump never said anything good about Nazis

Trump said there were "very fine people on both sides" of the Charlottesville riot, and your side contained skinheads, Nazis, White Supremacists and Proud Boys. Such fine people.

He praised Hitler and said he “did a lot of good things,” according to John Kelly.

You should be asking yourself why such fine people would be marching in a Unite the Right parade and how come it was only the leftists who had a problem with them.

It's so sad how hard you fight for the right to be a ignorant dirty nasty disease spreading COVID victim. You folks have totally lost the plot.

Go take your shot just like your Lord Emperor Trump told you to, or he might become enraged that you are not properly worshiping him and following his commandments. Or go live on a commune free of all vaccines and modern medicine. Good riddance.

And you know what else?  I should be allowed to go anywhere BAREFOOT! Fuck you and your "No shoes, no shirts, no service" crap!  This is AMERICA!

Actually, except for OSHA and other work safety equipment regulations, there are no local, state or federal laws requiring shirts or shoes.  It's more in the local establishment dress code category.

Quote from: New Earth on August 24, 2021, 04:44:03 PM

Trump never said anything good about Nazis

Trump said there were "very fine people on both sides" of the Charlottesville riot, and your side contained skinheads, Nazis, White Supremacists and Proud Boys. Such fine people.

He praised Hitler and said he “did a lot of good things,” according to John Kelly.

You should be asking yourself why such fine people would be marching in a Unite the Right parade and how come it was only the leftists who had a problem with them.

It's so sad how hard you fight for the right to be a ignorant dirty nasty disease spreading COVID victim. You folks have totally lost the plot.

Go take your shot just like your Lord Emperor Trump told you to, or he might become enraged that you are not properly worshiping him and following his commandments. Or go live on a commune free of all vaccines and modern medicine. Good riddance.

I don't have any sides JJA so let's get this very clear. Trump basically said that not everyone in that riot was white supermacist or a skinhead, but liberals twisted Trump's words. But even if so called "my side" contained Nazis and white nationalists, your side JJA likewise contained Black supremacists, white haters and radicals. But no liberals cannot possibly condemn black racism, as a matter of fact liberals claim that a Black person cannot be a racist. LOL

Listen dude, the vaccine mandates are not coming from Trump, he is not in power, it is coming from Communist Democratic leaders of major cities. And for the last time, I do not spread Covid, the Chinese did.

I don't have any sides JJA so let's get this very clear. Trump basically said that not everyone in that riot was white supermacist or a skinhead, but liberals twisted Trump's words. But even if so called "my side" contained Nazis and white nationalists, your side JJA likewise contained Black supremacists, white haters and radicals. But no liberals cannot possibly condemn black racism, as a matter of fact liberals claim that a Black person cannot be a racist. LOL

Listen dude, the vaccine mandates are not coming from Trump, he is not in power, it is coming from Communist Democratic leaders of major cities. And for the last time, I do not spread Covid, the Chinese did.

You have demonstrated your disdain for masks and your inability to understand basic hygiene and how diseases work. You were a dumbass spreading COVID all over when you had it based on your inability to function like a human being with a working sense of empathy and total ignorance on how viruses work.

Trump told you to take it so why won't you take it? I thought you loved that strong powerful man that protects you from scary immigrants. Even he was strong enough to endure a tiny little prick in the arm, but was too scared to do it on TV because he didn't want everyone seeing him crying and sucking on his lollypop for comfort.

Oh wait... he's going to die now, isn't he. You think the vaccine is fatal. So sad. Who will protect you from the Irish now? 

I'm all for vaccine mandates. We did it with Polio and other terrible diseases that you now don't have to deal with because other people did the right thing. We wouldn't need mandates if there weren't stupid morons who refused to take it.

I have the right not to be vaccinated cause its my body.

Ok, I'm sure you've thought this through.....

Typically overblown reaction, but I’m not sure that widespread use of vaccine passports is a great thing.  For international travel and high risk environments like nightclubs is probably OK, but for day to day stuff, I think it might be a step too far.

Quote from: New Earth on August 24, 2021, 04:44:03 PM

I have the right not to be vaccinated cause its my body.

Ok, I'm sure you've thought this through.....

Interesting examination on the "My body, my choice", "Freedom" position:



Even near respirator patients cling to the notion.

Typically overblown reaction, but I’m not sure that widespread use of vaccine passports is a great thing.  For international travel and high risk environments like nightclubs is probably OK, but for day to day stuff, I think it might be a step too far.

I think you have to compare it to smoking, and don't forget about employees.

We don't allow smoking in restaurants anymore because the freedom to smoke is outweighed by everyone elses freedom to not have to inhale cancerous second hand smoke. Especially employees who can't simply 'go somewhere else' as easily as a customer.

Now we have the freedom to not take a vaccine vs the freedom to not be exposed to a deadly virus. Employees shouldn't have to risk their lives to allow others the freedom to not get the shot.

I fully support saying if you don't want the shot, fine, but you have to accept not being allowed on a crowded plane or in places where you can be a danger to others.

Quote from: JerkFace on August 25, 2021, 04:57:34 AM

Quote from: New Earth on August 24, 2021, 04:44:03 PM

I have the right not to be vaccinated cause its my body.

Ok, I'm sure you've thought this through.....

Interesting examination on the "My body, my choice", "Freedom" position:



Even near respirator patients cling to the notion.

In theory sort of.  In reality though these people are just being aggressively and violently stupid.

This kind of reminds me of those incredibly gory stop smoking campaigns, like where they have the people that have to talk with synthetic voice boxes because of throat cancer telling people not to smoke.  But people get something out of smoking at least.  All these people are doing is owning the libs.

"owning the libs' isn't the reason so many healthcare workers don't want to get vaccinated.

Quote from: Unconvinced on August 25, 2021, 07:29:30 AM

Typically overblown reaction, but I’m not sure that widespread use of vaccine passports is a great thing.  For international travel and high risk environments like nightclubs is probably OK, but for day to day stuff, I think it might be a step too far.

I think you have to compare it to smoking, and don't forget about employees.

We don't allow smoking in restaurants anymore because the freedom to smoke is outweighed by everyone elses freedom to not have to inhale cancerous second hand smoke. Especially employees who can't simply 'go somewhere else' as easily as a customer.

Now we have the freedom to not take a vaccine vs the freedom to not be exposed to a deadly virus. Employees shouldn't have to risk their lives to allow others the freedom to not get the shot.

I fully support saying if you don't want the shot, fine, but you have to accept not being allowed on a crowded plane or in places where you can be a danger to others.

Except those employees can protect themselves by getting the vaccine, which renders the virus not particularly deadly (at least the known current strains).

I think everyone should be strongly encouraged to get vaccinated, but I’m uneasy about shutting those that don’t out of society.  How much will it fuel conspiracy theories?  What kind of precedent are we setting? 

"owning the libs' isn't the reason so many healthcare workers don't want to get vaccinated.

I have no idea what to make of healthcare workers who won't get vaccinated.  They're seeing people die horribly from this disease all the time.

Quote from: JJA on August 25, 2021, 07:58:19 AM

Quote from: Unconvinced on August 25, 2021, 07:29:30 AM

Typically overblown reaction, but I’m not sure that widespread use of vaccine passports is a great thing.  For international travel and high risk environments like nightclubs is probably OK, but for day to day stuff, I think it might be a step too far.

I think you have to compare it to smoking, and don't forget about employees.

We don't allow smoking in restaurants anymore because the freedom to smoke is outweighed by everyone elses freedom to not have to inhale cancerous second hand smoke. Especially employees who can't simply 'go somewhere else' as easily as a customer.

Now we have the freedom to not take a vaccine vs the freedom to not be exposed to a deadly virus. Employees shouldn't have to risk their lives to allow others the freedom to not get the shot.

I fully support saying if you don't want the shot, fine, but you have to accept not being allowed on a crowded plane or in places where you can be a danger to others.

Except those employees can protect themselves by getting the vaccine, which renders the virus not particularly deadly (at least the known current strains).

I think everyone should be strongly encouraged to get vaccinated, but I’m uneasy about shutting those that don’t out of society.  How much will it fuel conspiracy theories?  What kind of precedent are we setting?

To be honest I'm kind of against forcing vaccinations depending on the situation.  Covid will be gone someday one way or the other.  But the damage to our institutions by forcing vaccinations will remain.

So I sort of agree in principle with the politicians that are against a vaccine mandate.  I just really wish they'd put more effort into promoting vaccinations so a mandate isn't necessary.

JJA you say I don't know anything about viruses? But it seems that you actually know nothing about them. I'm against masks because they are retarded face diapers. I'm against masks because they do not protect you, bur rather symbolize a leftist political statement of total government control. Do you know how small a virus is? You cannot see it with a naked eye and only observe it through a microscope, so do you honestly think that a piece of fabric such as masks can stop it? Its like trying to stop a fly from entering gated community. 

Trump and other elites did not take any vaccines. Sure they said they did and some even did it live on TV but they neve gave them a death shot that you got. Like I said you volunteered for the slaughter. I remember JJA how you said that there is no room in modern society for people like me or for others like me. I took a trip to Southern Illinois last week and talked to many people and no one wants Communism, masks or vaccines there. The heartland of America and majority of Americans reject this B.S. Many houses down there are displaying rebel flag. I promise to you JJA that my America is coming back.

JJA you say I don't know anything about viruses?

I do, based on your claims that COVID isn't actually a virus but some chemical weapon nonsense. And your inability to understand what vacciens actually do, and what antibodies are and how they work.

Your ignorance on this subject has been on display for some time and it seems like your only references are memes you copy paste like "face diapers" and your conspiracy theories and racist rantings you see on Fox and QAnon websites.

See below...

Do you know how small a virus is? You cannot see it with a naked eye and only observe it through a microscope, so do you honestly think that a piece of fabric such as masks can stop it? Its like trying to stop a fly from entering gated community. 

Exhibit A of your ignorance on how masks and viruses work.

Trump and other elites did not take any vaccines. Sure they said they did and some even did it live on TV but they neve gave them a death shot that you got.

Exhibit A of your wild, unfounded and baseless conspiracy theories.

Many houses down there are displaying rebel flag. I promise to you JJA that my America is coming back.

Exhibit A of your being a ranting racist who just wants America to go back to enslaving people.

JJA you say I don't know anything about viruses? But it seems that you actually know nothing about them. I'm against masks because they are retarded face diapers. I'm against masks because they do not protect you, bur rather symbolize a leftist political statement of total government control. Do you know how small a virus is? You cannot see it with a naked eye and only observe it through a microscope, so do you honestly think that a piece of fabric such as masks can stop it? Its like trying to stop a fly from entering gated community. 

Trump and other elites did not take any vaccines. Sure they said they did and some even did it live on TV but they neve gave them a death shot that you got. Like I said you volunteered for the slaughter. I remember JJA how you said that there is no room in modern society for people like me or for others like me. I took a trip to Southern Illinois last week and talked to many people and no one wants Communism, masks or vaccines there. The heartland of America and majority of Americans reject this B.S. Many houses down there are displaying rebel flag. I promise to you JJA that my America is coming back.

Actually... A virus can't move on its own.  Unlike a fly.  And you can stop a fly.  Ever had a mosquito net? 
Also, if you layered a few dozen chainlink fences in an overlapping pattern, flies would have a much harder to get through.

Masks keep the transmition medium (like your spit) from flying through the air.  Did you know that when you talk to someone face to face, you get drops of their saliva in your mouth?  Especially if you talk at the same time.

To be honest I'm kind of against forcing vaccinations depending on the situation.  Covid will be gone someday one way or the other.  But the damage to our institutions by forcing vaccinations will remain.

So I sort of agree in principle with the politicians that are against a vaccine mandate.  I just really wish they'd put more effort into promoting vaccinations so a mandate isn't necessary.

I'm honestly curious. What do you think of mandatory vaccinations for chicken pox and polio?

Would you rather we live in a world where there were never any mandates for those vaccines and they were still killing and crippling large numbers of children and adults every year? Those diseases didn't just go away by themselves, we made them go away.

For the record, I fully support vaccinations being mandated. That's a world I want. Freedoms are not absolute.

New Earth certainly knows how  to get you guys juiced up.   
 

New Earth certainly knows how  to get you guys juiced up.   

It's fantastic. I used to have to work out for half an hour to get my heart rate up this high and is way more satisfying than slamming my head into a wall.

Besides, it's great to see how well the plan to steal the election is working out. I'm going to vote for Biden ANOTHER ten times right now just to rub it in.

So now the mayor of New York mandates prove of vaccine when entering restaurants, theaters, entertainment venues and basically most places in general. Other cities like New Orleans and Los Angeles followed. I'm honestly ashamed that these people live in the same country as I do. These commie dictators have no place in America and our supreme court is once again asleep at the wheel. This is the most unconstitutional mandate ever made and people still do not protest. Although some attorneys are suing the government for this it is not enough. We should all be on the streets right now asking for our rights to be restored. This is a damn shame.

I actually hope that when they refuse service to unvaxed black people they would file massive law suits against New York and other communist cities that require this. This is George Orwell 2021 not 1984 LOL

This is worse then Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, people need to wake the fuck up.

My faith in America is restoring at this most excellent news.

Quote from: Crouton on August 25, 2021, 09:36:32 AM

To be honest I'm kind of against forcing vaccinations depending on the situation.  Covid will be gone someday one way or the other.  But the damage to our institutions by forcing vaccinations will remain.

So I sort of agree in principle with the politicians that are against a vaccine mandate.  I just really wish they'd put more effort into promoting vaccinations so a mandate isn't necessary.

I'm honestly curious. What do you think of mandatory vaccinations for chicken pox and polio?

Would you rather we live in a world where there were never any mandates for those vaccines and they were still killing and crippling large numbers of children and adults every year? Those diseases didn't just go away by themselves, we made them go away.

For the record, I fully support vaccinations being mandated. That's a world I want. Freedoms are not absolute.

I'm not sure. I'm always for giving the government the least amount of force necessary to solve a problem.

Is a mass mandate really the only way to control a plague? Maybe there's less obtrusive methods that will work well enough like incentives and narrowly defined mandates.

Quote from: JJA on August 25, 2021, 09:59:28 AM

Quote from: Crouton on August 25, 2021, 09:36:32 AM

To be honest I'm kind of against forcing vaccinations depending on the situation.  Covid will be gone someday one way or the other.  But the damage to our institutions by forcing vaccinations will remain.

So I sort of agree in principle with the politicians that are against a vaccine mandate.  I just really wish they'd put more effort into promoting vaccinations so a mandate isn't necessary.

I'm honestly curious. What do you think of mandatory vaccinations for chicken pox and polio?

Would you rather we live in a world where there were never any mandates for those vaccines and they were still killing and crippling large numbers of children and adults every year? Those diseases didn't just go away by themselves, we made them go away.

For the record, I fully support vaccinations being mandated. That's a world I want. Freedoms are not absolute.

I'm not sure. I'm always for giving the government the least amount of force necessary to solve a problem.

Is a mass mandate really the only way to control a plague? Maybe there's less obtrusive methods that will work well enough like incentives and narrowly defined mandates.

Well, they did try the whole "must have a mask" thing but babies were really upset and through temper tantrums.

Quote from: Crouton on August 25, 2021, 09:36:32 AM

To be honest I'm kind of against forcing vaccinations depending on the situation.  Covid will be gone someday one way or the other.  But the damage to our institutions by forcing vaccinations will remain.

So I sort of agree in principle with the politicians that are against a vaccine mandate.  I just really wish they'd put more effort into promoting vaccinations so a mandate isn't necessary.

I'm honestly curious. What do you think of mandatory vaccinations for chicken pox and polio?

Would you rather we live in a world where there were never any mandates for those vaccines and they were still killing and crippling large numbers of children and adults every year? Those diseases didn't just go away by themselves, we made them go away.

For the record, I fully support vaccinations being mandated. That's a world I want. Freedoms are not absolute.

Weirdly, chicken pox isn’t even a standard childhood vaccine in the UK.  We should probably start with that before making it mandatory.  Better than hosting pox parties.