This earth is not the real world

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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #150 on: November 02, 2021, 07:34:52 AM »
sort of like sceppy when he states things as fact.



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« Reply #151 on: November 02, 2021, 11:41:12 AM »
Kabool you need to stop posting

Jura there is actually nothing wrong with your version of paradise either. Paradise is not universal place like earth, its whatever you want, its a personal pleasure place and this is something a lot of people don't understand. People think its like Earth where you will live in a collective reality but it is completely opposite if that, so having your own spaceship with hot women is perfectly fine. Problem is Jura is that you did not read my description of paradise in earlier threads. It is an infinite world with no geographical limitations. You have infinite coastline dividing endless ocean and endless landmass, the fun never ends, you will never reach the end. So no spaceships because its not heleocentric universe but rather terrestrial one. However you can have any flying machine or craft there and fly forever if you wish. Its not just Disney World and candy bars as you thought, its literally everything.

Smoke Machine your idea of paradise is very earthly which is fine because paradise is material however you will never find paradise on earth. No matter how beautiful the island you visited was, no matter how great your mangos tasted, the earth can't compare to paradise due to the very nature of paradise vs earth. Paradise exists in a much higher vibrational frequency so nothing on earth can compare.  Islam actually tells you that. It  says that  every object in paradise is more beautiful then entire earth.  If you were to eat mango in paradise it will taste million times better and with every bite it will taste better. People who compare paradise to earth simply do not understand how grand and different paradise is.
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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #152 on: November 02, 2021, 11:52:03 AM »
oooOOOooooh
sort of like just a private jerk room with pinup posters all over.
gotcha


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« Reply #153 on: November 02, 2021, 12:00:11 PM »
Kabool you need to stop posting

Jura there is actually nothing wrong with your version of paradise either. Paradise is not universal place like earth, its whatever you want, its a personal pleasure place and this is something a lot of people don't understand. People think its like Earth where you will live in a collective reality but it is completely opposite if that, so having your own spaceship with hot women is perfectly fine. Problem is Jura is that you did not read my description of paradise in earlier threads. It is an infinite world with no geographical limitations. You have infinite coastline dividing endless ocean and endless landmass, the fun never ends, you will never reach the end. So no spaceships because its not heleocentric universe but rather terrestrial one. However you can have any flying machine or craft there and fly forever if you wish. Its not just Disney World and candy bars as you thought, its literally everything.

Smoke Machine your idea of paradise is very earthly which is fine because paradise is material however you will never find paradise on earth. No matter how beautiful the island you visited was, no matter how great your mangos tasted, the earth can't compare to paradise due to the very nature of paradise vs earth. Paradise exists in a much higher vibrational frequency so nothing on earth can compare.  Islam actually tells you that. It  says that  every object in paradise is more beautiful then entire earth.  If you were to eat mango in paradise it will taste million times better and with every bite it will taste better. People who compare paradise to earth simply do not understand how grand and different paradise is.

If it's whatever I want, why can't I have a spaceship? That seems to be a limitation on my "whatever I want" paradise. That seems to violate what's purported in your paradise brochure.

As well, is all this just your wish or is it a fact?

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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #154 on: November 02, 2021, 01:26:50 PM »
sort of like sceppy when he states things as fact.
Yes, just like him.

Repeatedly claim so many things as fact, and then when pushed to try to justify these "facts" of his, he just claims he has only ever been providing his opinion and that nothing he has ever stated has been stated as fact.
All so he doesn't have to defend it at all.

Kabool you need to stop posting
You need to follow your own advice.

It is an infinite world with no geographical limitations. You have infinite coastline dividing endless ocean and endless landmass
That is 2 dimensions, and you claim more than 3. So what is up, and then orthogonal to all of the other dimensions?
Could it be space?

And again, is this a statement of fact, or is it just wild speculation with no basis in reality?

You sure do love stating things as if they are fact, yet want to claim you don't.

Again, why no simple admission that all your claims about this new world are pure fantasy?

Islam actually tells you
And just like all the other religions, it tells you a load of BS, some of which directly contradicts other religions, or itself, or reality.
Islam saying something doesn't make it true.

It is simply a con to get fools to obey and be willing to kill themselves for the benefit of others.

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« Reply #155 on: November 02, 2021, 02:48:16 PM »
Do not disrespect the prophet Jack Black, keep the filthy liberal mouth off Islam. I'm not a Muslim but I have nothing but pure admiration for the Islam, what a beautiful religion with such incredible description of paradise/Jannah. So many Muslims are looking forward to paradise, we should envy them, this is a great promise and glorious hope.

Now to address some comments here; its not two dimensions its one world consisting of infinite ocean and infinite landmass. Imagine yourself on the beach, its infinite in all directions. Look toward the water it goes on forever look behind you toward the land it also goes on forever. Why this is so hard for you to grasp?

There is no spaceships there because there is no space. The sky is also infinite, there is no sun or moon, rather a perfect light illuminating the land at all times. So if you were to go up you would never reach the end either but you also won't be in space. However there are many flying machines there that will take you anywhere.

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« Reply #156 on: November 02, 2021, 03:27:58 PM »
Now to address some comments here; its not two dimensions its one world consisting of infinite ocean and infinite landmass. Imagine yourself on the beach, its infinite in all directions. Look toward the water it goes on forever look behind you toward the land it also goes on forever. Why this is so hard for you to grasp?

There is no spaceships there because there is no space. The sky is also infinite, there is no sun or moon, rather a perfect light illuminating the land at all times. So if you were to go up you would never reach the end either but you also won't be in space. However there are many flying machines there that will take you anywhere.

Is all this just your wish or is it a fact?

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« Reply #157 on: November 02, 2021, 03:33:42 PM »
Do not disrespect the prophet Jack Black, keep the filthy liberal mouth off Islam. I'm not a Muslim but I have nothing but pure admiration for the Islam, what a beautiful religion with such incredible description of paradise/Jannah. So many Muslims are looking forward to paradise, we should envy them, this is a great promise and glorious hope.

Including Shariah law, which is often used to punish a woman who reports a rape, in places with death by stoning?  Or the law that declares death for an apostate?  Or how about Nikah mut‘ah?  Not to mention Aisha.

I'm not saying Islam is worse than other religions, but it is far from beautiful.  It is just the same as other religions: hypocritical, self-righteous, and intolerant of other beliefs, because theirs is the only true religion  ::)
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« Reply #158 on: November 02, 2021, 03:36:19 PM »
Do not disrespect the prophet Jack Black
Respect is not automatic, nor limitless.
Mo and Islam deserves no respect. He is not a prophet, he is a conman who conned people into obedience, just like so many other so called "prophets" from countless other religions. I will give him as much respect as I give Hitler or any other warlord.

Islam, like so many other religions, has some elements of "beauty", but also plenty of hate and abhorrent garbage.

And yes, lots of Muslims are looking forward to that paradise. So much so that they are willing to kill themselves and take out plenty of innocent people along with them.
That is not something to be praised or admired.
It basically means that they have given up on this world.

I look forward to making this world better, rather than abandoning it.
I will praise and/or admire those genuinely working to make this world a better place.
Not the conmen selling false hope of a better afterlife to get people to obey them, nor those who have given up on this world.

If you wanted me to keep my "filthy liberal mouth" off Islam, you shouldn't have brought it up as if backed up your position.
Additionally, if you don't want people to criticise and call it out for what it is, then don't praise it. In fact, just don't discuss it at all.
If you are praising something, you have no right to prohibit others from opposing that praise.

So many Muslims are looking forward to paradise, we should envy them, this is a great promise and glorious hope.
Why should we envy them?
Why not envy those who actually care about reality, and living in this world in the life they have?

Now to address some comments here; its not two dimensions its one world
I think you are confused over the meaning of dimension.
When I said dimension, I was meaning it in the mathematical sense. 2 dimensions are x and y, or north-south and east-west. A third dimension allows things to go up and down.

Why this is so hard for you to grasp?

There is no spaceships there because there is no space. The sky is also infinite
It isn't difficult to grasp.
What is up? What is down?

The sky is not a physical thing.

Is it air? If so, does this still have weight, which would result in infinite pressure at ground level?
Or do you just completely throw out the laws of physics?

And again, is this you claiming it as fact, or is still just pure fantasy? Why can't you make that clear, by clearly admitting that everything you say about this "paradise" is fantasy and if such a place actually exists, it could be entirely different from what you claim? Or be honest and admit you are claiming it as fact, and justify it.
If it is pure fantasy, what is wrong with a counter fantasy where it has space above a thin layer of air?

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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #159 on: November 02, 2021, 03:40:36 PM »
I look forward to making this world better, rather than abandoning it.
I will praise and/or admire those genuinely working to make this world a better place.

That, right there, is my religion.
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« Reply #160 on: November 02, 2021, 10:25:10 PM »
Do not disrespect the prophet Jack Black, keep the filthy liberal mouth off Islam. I'm not a Muslim but I have nothing but pure admiration for the Islam, what a beautiful religion with such incredible description of paradise/Jannah. So many Muslims are looking forward to paradise, we should envy them, this is a great promise and glorious hope.

Now to address some comments here; its not two dimensions its one world consisting of infinite ocean and infinite landmass. Imagine yourself on the beach, its infinite in all directions. Look toward the water it goes on forever look behind you toward the land it also goes on forever. Why this is so hard for you to grasp?

There is no spaceships there because there is no space. The sky is also infinite, there is no sun or moon, rather a perfect light illuminating the land at all times. So if you were to go up you would never reach the end either but you also won't be in space. However there are many flying machines there that will take you anywhere.

New Earth, we've discussed this all before, and yet somehow you always wind up back on this track you're on.

You can go to any place you desire in your imagination, which is where your vision definitely is from. In your vision, you have walked along this infinite shoreline on this infinite beach, yes?

Here's a practical exercise for you to try:

Go into your paradise earth vision in your mind, and spend some time there. Breathe the air, taste the fruit on the trees, and feel the warmth of the sunlight shining on your face. A soft breeze is blowing on your body. Feel the paradise soil on the soles of your feet. Hear the peaceful sounds of tranquility, and see all the beautiful bright colors.

When you're ready, keep holding that vision, open your eyes, and pull your vision down all around you into the physical world about you. Remember, it's infinite, and includes our physical world in the here and now. Feel yourself still in the energy of that paradise, superimposed on the physical world, and see if you can walk around the physical world, maintaining the energy of being in paradise.

Tell us if the physical world around you feels and looks different in any way while you are doing this.
For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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« Reply #161 on: November 03, 2021, 02:37:47 AM »
There is no spaceships there because there is no space. The sky is also infinite, there is no sun or moon, rather a perfect light illuminating the land at all times. So if you were to go up you would never reach the end either but you also won't be in space. However there are many flying machines there that will take you anywhere.
Can the flying machines still look like rockets?

And if I prefer to sleep during night time, can the light be adjusted? Or do I even need sleep?
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« Reply #162 on: November 03, 2021, 02:51:07 AM »
Oh, and if I want to my flying ship to look like a really veiny erection, can I have it?

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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #163 on: November 03, 2021, 03:00:03 AM »
Oh, and if I want to my flying ship to look like a really veiny erection, can I have it?

Ooooh, I want to visit your paradise.
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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #164 on: November 03, 2021, 03:06:48 AM »
I'll reserve a spot for you!

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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #165 on: November 03, 2021, 11:03:28 AM »
Calen you and other liberals may think you are making this world a better place but actually you have ruined this world not because you are gay because gays always existed but because you and others like you disallow any other opinion besides the radical left wing agenda. Do you think your cancel culture making world a better place? Do you think rioting on the streets and burning stores down making world a better place? Do you think taking God out of equation making world a better place? Everything you liberals did turned out to be a disaster, every change you propose makes this world into a chaotic nightmare. 

Jack Black, of course the laws of physics are very different in paradise. I thought you knew this. You have infinite up and infinite down, thus making that realm just as 3D as our earth, you still don't get it? How exactly its governed by what physical laws is unknown but something that is located in a different dimension and higher frequency is not gonna behave like our earth. In my vision I asked the same question you asked me, what happens when you start going up, is there a barrier? And the answer I got is no barrier but there simply is no need to travel up for a long time. Same thing with going underground the depth perhaps is infinite but there is no need to go there for a long distance. 

Lastly I will say it for the last time my vision of paradise is just that a vision. Vision is not a fact but it is also not a fantasy. Fantasy is something a person dreamed up, I actually saw this place in a vision, hashtag vision LOL
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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #166 on: November 03, 2021, 12:06:50 PM »
Man, do fuck off :D

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« Reply #167 on: November 03, 2021, 12:08:13 PM »
Lastly I will say it for the last time my vision of paradise is just that a vision. Vision is not a fact but it is also not a fantasy. Fantasy is something a person dreamed up, I actually saw this place in a vision, hashtag vision LOL

vision - noun
vi·​sion | \ ˈvi-zhən

a: something seen in a dream, trance, or ecstasy
especially : a supernatural appearance that conveys a revelation
b: a thought, concept, or object formed by the imagination
c: a manifestation to the senses of something immaterial

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« Reply #168 on: November 03, 2021, 12:46:42 PM »
Calen you and other liberals may think you are making this world a better place but actually you have ruined this world
No, that would be the religious, who continue to damage this world because they don't care about it.

because you and others like you disallow any other opinion besides the radical left wing agenda
That's rich coming from the person who demanded we don't speak ill about something.
That would be you trying to disallow an opinion.

But great job just lumping us all in together.

Jack Black, of course the laws of physics are very different in paradise. I thought you knew this.
Again, are you claiming this as a fact?
If so, do you have any basis to back it up?
You sure love making bold baseless claims about it, and claiming that everyone else is wrong.

How do you know the laws of physics are different?
How do you know there is no space?

If you aren't claiming it as fact, then there is no "of course" about it.

This isn't a fictional universe with an established cannon we are discussing here. It is your wild speculation which amounts to nothing more than pure fantasy.
Why would I know things about your fantasy?

You have infinite up and infinite down, thus making that realm just as 3D as our earth
So it doesn't contain higher dimensions, directly contradicting your prior claims?

Perhaps if you were consistent it would be easier for people to "get".

How exactly its governed by what physical laws is unknown
So how do you know there is no space? How do you know it doesn't follow the same physical laws?

Vision is not a fact but it is also not a fantasy.
No, they are you two options. Either it is fact, or fantasy.

Again, you want to pretend like it is fact, as you will not directly admit it is pure fiction, wild speculation with no basis in reality, and there is no reason for anyone to think any of the nonsense you are spouting is correct.
But you are also wanting to pretend you are not presenting it as fact, so you can avoid having to justify it.

If it isn't fact, there is no reason to accept anything you have said about it. There is no reason to conclude it is infinite rather than finite. There is no reason to conclude it is geocentric rather than heliocentric. There is no reason to think there is no space and no space ships. And most importantly, there is no reason to even think it is real.

But you go directly against that fictional status by making bold assertions about it, as factual assertions.

Fantasy is something a person dreamed up, I actually saw this place in a vision, hashtag vision LOL
So you are trying to get out on a technicality of calling your dream a vision.
Just how would you distinguish the two?
It sure sounds like it is pure fantasy.

And no, fantasy does not require it to be "dreamed".
Here are some definitions for you:
"a fanciful mental image, typically one on which a person often dwells and which reflects their conscious or unconscious wishes."
"an idea with no basis in reality."
"a genre of imaginative fiction involving magic and adventure, especially in a setting other than the real world."

So it sure sound like what you are promoting is fantasy.

Would you prefer if I used fiction instead?

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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #169 on: November 03, 2021, 01:19:14 PM »

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Do you think taking God out of equation making world a better place?

Yep.

And if I can't go spacefaring I'm not playing
Life is meaningless and everything dies.

Every man makes a god of his own desire

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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #170 on: November 03, 2021, 02:03:12 PM »
well now

God god allah supreme ruler spaggetti overlord to get the people to do things isn't really the problem.


greedy leaders using God god allah supreme ruler spaggetti overlord to get the people to do things is the problem.

alt right talking heads like fox news and co use the economy or freedom or dems are coming for your guns all the time.
POS texas governor said he will sacrfice every one of his people for the economy and guns and covid and CRT and whatever other stupid sht.

the blasphemy of "in the name of God" for the crusades and "allah" in the last 20yrs of taliban and isis directly goes against the primary teachings of the books they supposedly represent.


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« Reply #171 on: November 03, 2021, 03:31:44 PM »
the blasphemy of "in the name of God" for the crusades and "allah" in the last 20yrs of taliban and isis directly goes against the primary teachings of the books they supposedly represent.
It goes against some interpretations, but is entirely consistent with other interpretations.

There is no more reason to conclude the terrorists and crusaders are going against the primary teachings as there is to believe the more peaceful followers are going against the primary teachings.

That is just an excuse given by people who want to hold religions on a pedestal and pretend they are fine and it is only some people that are the problem. Yet they don't do the same to other groups like the KKK or ISIS.

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« Reply #172 on: November 03, 2021, 10:58:30 PM »
Jack Black aren't you tired to write such long responses to my fantasies and visions? Why do you write such long responses to something you don't believe in?

Liberals took God out of equation but they didn't find anything to replace him with! Liberals worship mankind but man always fails, man will fail forever. People who blame God for the mistakes of religious people are morons. Its like blaming a really good teacher that a lazy student is failing his class. Liberals fail to understand that religion and God are two different things, Liberals fail to understand many spiritual things so no surprise there.
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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #173 on: November 04, 2021, 12:18:18 AM »
How you can say libs forgot God yet at the same time fkc the blacks and fuck the planet....

Very ungodlike to mistreat such gifts from His/ her creations those that beought us sick beats and beauty of trees in the wind.

Sode note to the he her pronoun -
The jews called ywh androgenous.
Are trans allowed in your mormon world?
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« Reply #174 on: November 04, 2021, 01:32:25 AM »
Jack Black aren't you tired
Nope.
Aren't you tired to continue promoting such fantasy, making bold statements about it as if they are facts, yet then turning around and saying you are never claiming anything as fact, yet refusing to admit it is fiction.

Why do you write such long responses to something you don't believe in?
Because all it takes for BS to triumph is for intelligent people to say nothing.

Liberals took God out of equation but they didn't find anything to replace him with!
Liberals didn't take your imaginary fiend out, plenty of different things did.
For example, the advance of science started to explain loads of things typically attributed to your imaginary fiend, making it less necessary.
Modern medicine started helping and healing people, making people less needy of a false hope of a magic sky pixie magically healing them.
Life has improved, making people less needing of an escape of reality. (but not everyone, you still desperately need some escape and want to abandon this world).
It was replaced with philosophy regarding ethics, so you can consider the morality of something rather than just going based upon the commands of a fictitious evil tyrant.

People who blame God for the mistakes of religious people are morons.
I don't blame your god. That would require the delusional belief that your god exists.
But no, your imaginary fiend is not a good teacher.
If it was real, it would be to blame.

The most moral and best behaved religious people are typically those who discard their abhorrent religions.
The ones most commonly following their imaginary evil tyrant are those seen as abhorrent.

Now again, willing to admit you have just been spouting fantasy and there is no reason that space can't exist in paradise?
Or are you going to grow a spine and admit you have been claiming it as fact?

And don't forget, most people (with a magic sky fairy) don't just have it as a teacher, but a creator.
If an omnipotent being made people, it is to blame for every action of those people it made.

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« Reply #175 on: November 04, 2021, 08:47:24 AM »
Jack Black aren't you tired to write such long responses to my fantasies and visions? Why do you write such long responses to something you don't believe in?

Liberals took God out of equation but they didn't find anything to replace him with! Liberals worship mankind but man always fails, man will fail forever. People who blame God for the mistakes of religious people are morons. Its like blaming a really good teacher that a lazy student is failing his class. Liberals fail to understand that religion and God are two different things, Liberals fail to understand many spiritual things so no surprise there.

I'm happy to hear about your visions, New Earth. But I'm happier to prompt you to ponder your vision, and you to think about what your vision means to you and the life you're living. It doesn't bother me in the slightest that you use the phrase, "as a matter of fact", and then share your opinion.
For the overall shape of Earth to be flat, requires billions of people and billions of pieces of information about Earth to be wrong. Do the maths.

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Re: This earth is not the real world
« Reply #176 on: November 04, 2021, 09:02:22 AM »
why can't here be paradise?

or a pair o'ducks?

pair o'dicks or pair o'dykes!


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« Reply #177 on: November 04, 2021, 09:52:45 AM »
Kabool you are like a child that is asking for candy and can't get it. Why can't here be paradise you are asking? Why can't Russia be America, why can't winter be summer, why can't house cat be a tiger? It is very very unwise to expect paradise on earth because Earth is vibrating on a much lower frequency. Liberals are such fucking idiots to expect paradise on Earth. LOL

People always fuck things up, people are made from dust of the ground, they are fallen beings that are constantly involved in doing evil and you expect paradise from them? Very very stupid. The residents of paradise are called Angels although I don't particularly like that term, regardless there are billions of people who are native to paradise and they are super beings, very different from people on earth, much more advanced and intelligent but also very kind and noble. Sometimes I wish that Paradise should invade Earth and kill everyone on earth, but Paradise is merciful and they love everyone so this will never happen.

Also Kabool I will ask admins to ban you if you ever accuse me of racism again. I also never said fuck the planet, that would be retarded. I simply disagree with green agenda because they want you to keep the heat in your house at 60 degrees F. Green agenda will make you freeze to death. Green agenda wants to take away your car and make you ride a bicycle like a fucking hipster, so yeah fuck Green agenda, fuck their scooters, fuck doordash fuck Soho, fuck all these women with leggings fuck all this artificial B.S. and give me my Rolls Royce SUV God Dammit.

Jack Black you are a boring fucking Liberal so I will not read anything you have to say anymore, you are by far the stupidest fucking asshole on this site.
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« Reply #178 on: November 04, 2021, 10:20:57 AM »
So first you say this:

Sometimes I wish that Paradise should invade Earth and kill everyone on earth...

Then immediately followed by:

I also never said fuck the planet, that would be retarded.

Keep the planet, but kill the humans. Lovely.

Do you always twist in the wind like this with inane and insane ramblings?

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« Reply #179 on: November 04, 2021, 10:24:44 AM »
Liberals took God out of equation but they didn't find anything to replace him with!

Apparently, back on 2014, you took god out of the equation and replaced it with Aliens. Does that make you a Liberal?

Many ask the question why did God create us yet he does not eliminate evil from our world? Why does he allow war, poverty, diseases, crime, exc. If he is a loving father that religions claim he is, why doesn't he interfere when evil occurs. The answer Christians give is free will. But the real answer  and more logical answer is because he never created us. You see if the group of aliens created us as scientific experiment of some sort, than it makes perfect sense why humans are allowed to misbehave and destroy their own environment and act like animals toward each other. If God made he would never be so indifferent toward our problems. 

If you read Genesis chapter 1 your own bible tells you who created us. "Let us make man in our image and likeness" Who are they? Notice that creator is plural here.

How's the hypocrisy going?