THE 1ST DOME IS NOT AS HIGH AS YOU THINK

The survey says:
1. Moonlanding was fake, space journeys were only CGIs.

The first movie to use actual CGI was Westworld (1973). It was used in a few shots where the camera viewpoint was looking out through the pixelated eyes of the robot gunslinger gone rogue, played by Yul Brynner. A very, very primitive effect. If anything, you mean scale models, not CGI. I do understand that a lot of people think Apollo was faked. Though I have yet to see any real convincing evidence that it was and lots of counter evidence to those claims that it did actually occur as depicted. And I've watch and read lot of stuff about alleged Apollo fakery. Nothing yet have I found that can't be rationally addressed. Zero, holy shit moments like, "Yeah, that is some convincing evidence that it was faked..." Nothing.

2. FE rocket experiments always showed a colision at the end before the rocket fell down.

We've been over this many times. YoYo Despin. Even the FEr who originally posited the GOfast rocket video where he says it hit the dome, retracted it with a followup video showing the recovered rocket after yoyo despin - If it had really hit a "dome" at its max speed, the rocket would have crumpled like a tin can. It was found completely intact on the ground.

Here's the FEr's follow-up video to his original "the rocket hit the dome" video. Even he realized it was the despin. See the intact pointy nosed rocket on the ground after the flight at around 2:57 - Shouldn't be so pointy if it hit a dome at speed:

3. "Round Earth" pics are only CGIs. Why not going to certain sufficient altitude -say, by ISS- and then shoot a photo?

Evidence that all of the probably 100,000's of thousands of images from space are CGI? And all of the ones taken with actual film? Yes, let's see proof that they are ALL faked.

4. Apollo 11 AstroNOTs were afraid when asked to swear under Bible. Why?

Because it's beyond insulting to have a known conspiracy theorist badger and defame you for not only your personal greatest achievement but a very significant achievement for humankind. Not to mention the risking of life and limb. If I were Buzz and that psycho approached me on the street and began demanding that I swear on a bible he's carrying and continues to badger and cajole, literally stalking me, going on and on for over a minute, I would have punched that Seibel idiot too. He's saying shit to Buzz like, "...you're the man who said you walked on the moon when you didn't...you're a coward and a liar..." Buzz's right hook is quit good. Again, I would have clocked that Seibel POS too.

Just watch the video and tell me you wouldn't have told that guy to go fuck himself:

You can't give the opposite arguments..

Just did and it was far too easy.

With respect to real physics, a dome would make the earth a sealed contain and air pressure would be equal everywhere.

Surely that would mean the end of weather as we know it because changes in weather are entirely due to changes in atmospheric pressure. 

So if danang is right then that means we have to start all over again with our understanding of what causes the weather. Barometers and barographs everywhere would never change and always show the same pressure.

In a closed system, say, a big closed room, if there is a fire at certain position, the molecules of air at its surrounding will be less dense, while the molecules of air at distant positions will be more dense with relatively steady state.
It is possible only if there is a closed "container" or wall that gives opposite force against the moving/approaching molecules due to the fire force.

You can imagine a mobile circling fire called the sun.

Atmopheric pressure rate has to do with the sun position. The nearer the sun passes, the lesser pressure will occure. Vis a versa.

What about the wind? It comes from the generators inside clouds, similar to tornadoes & storms.

The space under the dome is dynamic so that the atmosperic pressure, or I should say: atmoplanic pressure will vary on different positions and different altitudes.
The breathing earth might be another variable for atmoplanic pressure, but I haven't sufficiently researched this subject.

What about FE helium balloon experiment? The same case with the rocket. It cannot go beyond a certain altitude.

Afterall with respect to real physics, the existence of dome is very logical as I explained above.

You mean as you baselessly asserted.
With respect to actual real physics, rather than your fantasy, the dome makes no sense at all, and is completely unneeded.
You would need a mythical material for it to be strong enough to hold itself up.

4. Apollo 11 AstroNOTs were afraid when asked to swear under Bible. Why?

Not all of them but Sibrel doesn't like to show you the ones that did.

For the others, they knew that Sibrel was NOT a journalist but instead a convicted stalker that admitted in court that he was going to call them liars whether they swore on the bible or not. Why should they cooperate with scum like that? What would it prove anyway?

Jack, try again with your argument. 👌
Frenat, the afraid look of most of them tell everything 👌

Frenat, the afraid look of most of them tell everything 👌

That's a laugh. At worst they look annoyed with having to deal with a convicted stalker. Some of them are mildly amused. Try again.

And you IGNORED my questions. Why should they cooperate with scum like that? What would it prove anyway?

What about FE helium balloon experiment? The same case with the rocket. It cannot go beyond a certain altitude.

Are you still at 17,000 ft max or have you come up with another number? If you've come up with yet another number, you may want to poke around and see how well it stands up.

"High-altitude balloons are crewed or uncrewed balloons, usually filled with helium or hydrogen, that are released into the stratosphere, generally attaining between 18 and 37 km (11 and 23 mi; 59,000 and 121,000 ft) above sea level. In 2002, a balloon named BU60-1 reached a record altitude of 53.0 km (32.9 mi; 173,900 ft).[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_balloon

Further info regarding the BU60-1:

"The BU60-1 balloon was 34.37kg in empty weight, 74.5m in length, and 53.7m in diameter. The total weight including 0.8kg of parachute package and 4.6kg of observation instruments was 39.77kg. We mounted two ITV cameras to record images of the balloon’s inflation and a Sony GPS receiver to measure altitude".

"At 6:35 a.m. on May 23, 2002, the BU60-1 was floated from SBC carrying the dreams of the balloon experiment team and affiliated researchers. It was floated by the semi-dynamic method using the newly developed balloon holding equipment and large floating platform. The balloon ascended normally at a speed of 260m/min and reached the highest altitude of 53.0km at 10:07 a.m. Figure 5 shows the altitude curve measured by the GPS and Figure 6 shows the image of the balloon’s full inflation."


Figure 5 Altitude Curve of BU60-1


Figure 6 Image of Full Inflation
https://www.isas.jaxa.jp/e/special/2003/yamagami/03.shtml

Seems like you'll have to adjust your dome from 17k ft to perhaps around 170k ft.

Jack, try again with your argument.

No thanks. You were the one claiming the dome is real and makes sense, so you actually try with your argument, rather than just asserting nonsense.

With respect to real physics, a dome would make the earth a sealed contain and air pressure would be equal everywhere.

Incorrect.  Gravity would still be a thing.

Rethink about the data which you haven't verified, including "the height" of mountains.
Altimeter is not an exact device.
Go to the top of tall building. Make an estimation about a distance based on your sight & real distance on land.

First mistake you made is to assume altimeters measure altitude.

They don’t. They are effectively barometers where the scale is calibrated to show a difference in pressure between that which it’s experiencing in the air and a value input into the altimeter. The dial is marked in feet rather than hectopascals or inches of mercury.

At what they do they are actually incredibly accurate (hence why we still use them exclusively to separate aircraft vertically), it’s just that in aviation we have height, altitude and flight level all of which could be significantly different values for the same aircraft measured at the same instant. Plus the local air pressure that the altimeter is measuring changes over time and distance, of course.

Perhaps a little research might help.

Air traffic controller of 23yrs.

Wow... take it easy...

Here is how to be an instant superstar 👌 

For 37 minutes flight, the distance is wrong, not to mention the speed.

For 37 minutes flight, the distance is wrong, not to mention the speed.

In the real world (the one the rest of us live in that you tend to ignore) it takes time to speed up and slow down as well as taxi the aircraft. All that is accounted for and affects the average speed. As well as for that short of a flight they likely don't get above 10,000 feet so they are subject to a max speed of 250 mph to help with noise and traffic restrictions. There is no problem here.

The same Leipzig to Erfurt by HIGH SPEED TRAIN...
Are you sure the distant is that short for 1 hour 41 minute HIGH SPEED TRAIN TRIP?

For 37 minutes flight, the distance is wrong, not to mention the speed.

You have spouted crap like this before.
The problem is planes don't magically accelerate instantaneously.
Instead, they take time to taxi to the runway, and then take off, and climb, and then land.
They also typically don't magically have direct routes. Instead they typically need to turn after taking off and turn before landing.

Here is one for the south:


Regardless, what does any of that have to do with your claims of a magic dome?

The same Leipzig to Erfurt by HIGH SPEED TRAIN...
Are you sure the distant is that short for 1 hour 41 minute HIGH SPEED TRAIN TRIP?

Can't defend your first crap post so you try to change the subject? EXACTLY what I expected from you.

What everyone is forgetting is THE 2ND DOME IS NOT AS LOW AS YOU THINK

Even for a long dustance, there are suspiscious things in distance and speed.

London - Munich flight's average speed equals 941 km/2h = 470.5 kph ??

Let's go watching an airplane fly from begining.

158 kph is like plane racing on the land. Generally in flight table, the distance & speed math are wrong or don't exist in real world.
It takes only 8 minutes to reach 800 kph, i.e. the actual speed in real flight.

 Jack & Frenat, please don't repeat the word "taxi" anymore.
A new stuff please

What everyone is forgetting is THE 2ND DOME IS NOT AS LOW AS YOU THINK

At least humans cannot travel to the moon, not to mention planets.
You need to go to the sky gate first, the celestial Jerusalem maybe. 👌

Again, how does any of that BS have anything to do with the dome?

Even for a long dustance, there are suspiscious things in distance and speed.

Try a nice long flight, over the ocean, 8 hours +

London - Munich flight's average speed equals 941 km/2h = 470.5 kph ??

Still quite a short flight, and you can do the same with the south.
For example, Sydney to Melbourne, a distance of 706 km, yet it takes 1 hr and 40 minutes.
That means the average speed is 423.6 km/hr.

It doesn't help your fake world.

Quote from: JJA on August 14, 2021, 07:50:13 AM

What everyone is forgetting is THE 2ND DOME IS NOT AS LOW AS YOU THINK

At least humans cannot travel to the moon, not to mention planets.
You need to go to the sky gate first, the celestial Jerusalem maybe. 👌

I prefer to get my connecting flight through the Emerald City although sometimes you have to stop in Neverland.

The third dome... now that's the tricky one.

Even for a long dustance, there are suspiscious things in distance and speed.

London - Munich flight's average speed equals 941 km/2h = 470.5 kph ??

Let's go watching an airplane fly from begining.

158 kph is like plane racing on the land. Generally in flight table, the distance & speed math are wrong or don't exist in real world.
It takes only 8 minutes to reach 800 kph, i.e. the actual speed in real flight.

and can you prove that on the short fight between London and Munich that they get to 800kph?  I'm betting you can't as they likely don't get to the usual cruising altitude for long haul flights and thus are subject to the 250 mph speed limit below 10,000 feet for a significant portion of the flight that you ignored from my previous post. And because you have a video of one plane getting to 800 kph in 8 minutes on one flight that somehow means that all planes on all flights do that?  Seriously? You just don't actually think about these things do you?

Even for a long dustance, there are suspiscious things in distance and speed.

What is suspicious about any of this? Be specific.

Quote from: Danang on August 15, 2021, 02:34:20 AM

Quote from: JJA on August 14, 2021, 07:50:13 AM

What everyone is forgetting is THE 2ND DOME IS NOT AS LOW AS YOU THINK

At least humans cannot travel to the moon, not to mention planets.
You need to go to the sky gate first, the celestial Jerusalem maybe. 👌

I prefer to get my connecting flight through the Emerald City although sometimes you have to stop in Neverland.

The third dome... now that's the tricky one.

The more domes, the more suns will possibly be seen.
Quite rare, but if the weather is right (not too bright), there could as if be more than 3 suns.
The sun is of course only one.

By the way, Neverland is a place of the Fool on The Hill AKA Nowhere Man.

#BeatleMania 

Afterall flight's speed can reach the sun's speed while you think it's around 800 kph as the general knowledge.
Observation says otherwise.
In long distance flights the speed can be set as fas as the sun. But you cannot manipulate short distance flights.
Official distance & math's speed are suspicious.

Never underestimate Youtube. Coz it's an emphyrical database of nearly everything.

The more domes, the more suns will possibly be seen.
Quite rare, but if the weather is right (not too bright), there could as if be more than 3 suns.
The sun is of course only one.

By the way, Neverland is a place of the Fool on The Hill AKA Nowhere Man.

#BeatleMania 

I think you mean the Nowhere King.