They have a definition NASA has a definition both have definitions. What I am saying to you is on what grounds can you, as an individual, dismiss the NASA one? They are both just definitions!
Like I said, the FAI is an international standards organisation. Like I said, NASA recently changed their definition to match the US military. Unlike the FAI which has kept it at 100 km.
But hey, as it is just a definition, anyone can use whatever definition they want.
I could say that it is actually jsut 1 km, and loads of people have been to space.
Or I could say it is actually 1 000 000 km, and no one has been to space.
After all, it is just an arbitrary line in the air.
So if we don't want an international standards organisation to define it, lets just ditch the whole idea of any rigid definition.
But then again unlike you `I don't profess to being an 'expert' on all things.
There you go with more blatant lies.
Where have I ever suggested anything of the like?
Trying to prove some point over this is pointless.
So why do you cling to it so much?
Why don't you instead just forget the arbitrary line in the sand and appeal to them going to 80 km?
It's because your claim desperately requires them to have gone to space, as if that magically changes things.
But as others have pointed out, 80 km isn't really that high. It isn't enough for you to easily see Earth as a ball.
As a comparison, if you had a ball which has a diameter of 64 cm, that would be equivalent to be ~ 4 mm from the surface.