Why does anyone start a religion?
Surely you're not naive enough to think people won't lie to gain control and power and all the trimmings that come with that...are you?
What do religions have in common?
Rules you are expected to live by.
Some call them commandments.
They also have religious leaders you are expected to obey.
The RE doesn't have that.
There's no problem if people want to use pull.
I'm just saying it has no real meaning when looked at down to basic molecular level.
Yet you refuse to look at simple situations at the basic molecular level which quite clearly expose this pull.
Instead you want to treat the link in a chain as one solid magical object with no internal forces.
Those looking at tit at the basic molecular level see that you push the right side of the link, and then the atoms there pull the atoms to the side and around the link, pulling the left side of the link at all.
To get a real understanding of what I mean is to look at the start of something and the ending.
No, to get a real understanding you need to look at it at every step along the way.
You want to ignore the vast majority of those steps so you can pretend that there are only pushing forces, because you ignore all the steps which involve pulling forces.
Ignoring the vast majority of the steps and pointing out some pushing forces doesn't mean there are no pulling forces.
In order to show there are no pulling forces, you need to go through every step along the chain, and explain them all using pushing forces.
Ignoring the pulling forces doesn't mean they don't exist. It just means you are ignoring reality.
Stop focusing on the forces people accept are pushing forces and instead focus on the parts people claim you need a pull.
Let's look at a locomotive and carriages.
And you have the same issue.
How is the force transferred from the wheels to the rest of the locomotive?
How is the force transferred from the front of one carriage to the end of that carriage?
It is effectively the same as the chain link. Lets assume the train is travelling to the right.
You have a pushing force acting on the right side of the carriage. That would move that right side of the carriage to the right, but how does it move the rest of the carraige?
Go down to the molecular level and explain how this carriage in its entirety moves.
What you actually have is just like the link.
The carriage in front provides a pushing force to the carriage we are interested in. Importantly, this provides it on the right hand side of the carriage.
This is then transferred through the solid material of the coupler via PULLING forces.
It is not all push. It is a combination of push and pull.
You ignoring these pulling forces doesn't mean they are not there.
It just means you are ignoring reality.
Yes, it is.
What?
If you didn't ignore the rest of the post, that would be clear.
Like I said, STOP PLAYING DUMB!
Deal with the fact that you are wrong.
Why do you lie by saying I haven't?
He doesn't, as you haven't explained it.
You continually ignore the molecular level you claim you need to go down to.
You continually focus on the forces people accept are pushing forces, and ignore the issue where people accept there are pulling forces.
So that is why people are saying you haven't explained it, BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T. Because you continually avoid the issue.
So no, he isn't lying, just like all the other people saying you haven't explained it aren't lying.
You are the one lying by claiming to have explained it.