There are no earth shape subject matter experts! Everyone knows the shape of the earth its no secret!
That just further dooms your position. If there are no experts then no one can know the shape of Earth if the claim you have chosen to defend is correct.
What is your position?
That has been made clear repeatedly. Why ask again when the last time you did and I provided a link to where it was first made you just dismiss it as a link that proves nothing?
Again, my position is clear, the claim Brawndo made is false.
That claim was that the only way to understand the shape of Earth is to accept what subject matter experts say Earth is.
That means no bothering with experiments or observations, just accepting what they say. They say its round, so you just accept that and that is the only way to know it is round.
I object that religious BS.
Instead I say that if that was the case, no one could ever possibly know the shape of Earth as there was a time without experts and that statement would mean no one could learn the shape of Earth as there is no expert to listen to.
I say that observations and experiments can allow one to understand that Earth is round.
no expert assistance?
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devised by another individual?
Again, that is irrelevant, stop strawman the position just because you are wrong and need to use strawmen to pretend you aren't.
Please explain what this 'Other' is!
Again, that is quite clear in context.
On one hand you have Brando's claim that you just accept what the experts say Earth is, taking it on faith.
The OTHER is to do experiments to determine or verify the shape of Earth.
explain HOW you would verify it? You keep saying you can but never say how?
Because that is irrelevant to the logical argument I made.
All that matters for that argument is that someone knows the shape of Earth now.
You keep mentioning it, observations and experiments but never say what the hell they are, as in reality, they don't exist.
So you are now saying there are no observations or experiments that show Earth is round?
Do you see how feeble you need to pretend science and the RE position is? All for the sake of pretending you are right?
You are willing to pretend that the RE belief is a purely religious belief, not based upon observations or experiments, but based upon just accepting what an "expert" says Earth is.
PS. Reading someone mind is not one of my skills.
It appears reading isn't either.
In using this experimental method you have "taken expert assistance" in completing the experiment.
But notice that it isn't simply "expert says Earth is round, so I know Earth is round".
That is the point you keep on ignoring.
Getting knowledge on how to conduct an experiment to discover the shape of Earth is quite different to getting knowledge of the shape of Earth from that expert.
But that isn't even what you are requiring.
You are claiming we need a brand new experiment. It is quite possible for multiple people to independently come up with the same or very similar experiments.
People can come up with experiments of the past, without having heard about them, and without subject matter expert assistance in making them. But to you, that doesn't count, as it isn't new.