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Big Tech Censorship
« on: June 28, 2021, 11:15:39 AM »
I've been following a lot of conversations over the past year or so about tech corporations censoring speech. Recently it has been discussions about the corone, last year it was conservatives. I mostly see people are happy when it's views they don't like, or they think are dangerous (such as quack covid cures, or inciting a siege on the capital,etc). I do think that they have to be careful, they have to make some speech against the rules, but there is always the danger they will go too far. They will aim their bam hammer at speech you think should be allowed eventually.

Right Wing Watch has just found this out. https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1409498743158812675?s=20

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Our efforts to expose the bigoted view and dangerous conspiracy theories spread by right-wing activists has now resulted in @YouTube banning our channel and removing thousands of our videos. We attempted to appeal this decision, and YouTube rejected it.



The comments are full of - JuST bUIlD yOuR OwN yoUtuBE and you reap what you sow.

I hope they get their channel back.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2021, 12:27:34 PM »
I'm a bit skeptical of conservative outrage over this.  The remedy in my opinion is anti-trust laws which already exist and net neutrality.  Both of these things are usually backed by democrats, maybe not California democrats.  If the republicans really wanted to fix this then they would side with the democrats to get it done.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2021, 12:59:15 PM »
I've been following a lot of conversations over the past year or so about tech corporations censoring speech. Recently it has been discussions about the corone, last year it was conservatives. I mostly see people are happy when it's views they don't like, or they think are dangerous (such as quack covid cures, or inciting a siege on the capital,etc). I do think that they have to be careful, they have to make some speech against the rules, but there is always the danger they will go too far. They will aim their bam hammer at speech you think should be allowed eventually.

Right Wing Watch has just found this out. https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1409498743158812675?s=20

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Our efforts to expose the bigoted view and dangerous conspiracy theories spread by right-wing activists has now resulted in @YouTube banning our channel and removing thousands of our videos. We attempted to appeal this decision, and YouTube rejected it.



The comments are full of - JuST bUIlD yOuR OwN yoUtuBE and you reap what you sow.

I hope they get their channel back.

They probably attacked a group directly and thus Youtube banned them.  This is the doube side of the banhammer: if you wanna ban the loonies on the right from inciting violence, ya gotta ban the sane left when they do similar things. 
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

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Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2021, 01:05:58 PM »
I've been following a lot of conversations over the past year or so about tech corporations censoring speech. Recently it has been discussions about the corone, last year it was conservatives. I mostly see people are happy when it's views they don't like, or they think are dangerous (such as quack covid cures, or inciting a siege on the capital,etc). I do think that they have to be careful, they have to make some speech against the rules, but there is always the danger they will go too far. They will aim their bam hammer at speech you think should be allowed eventually.

Right Wing Watch has just found this out. https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1409498743158812675?s=20

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Our efforts to expose the bigoted view and dangerous conspiracy theories spread by right-wing activists has now resulted in @YouTube banning our channel and removing thousands of our videos. We attempted to appeal this decision, and YouTube rejected it.



The comments are full of - JuST bUIlD yOuR OwN yoUtuBE and you reap what you sow.

I hope they get their channel back.

They probably attacked a group directly and thus Youtube banned them.  This is the doube side of the banhammer: if you wanna ban the loonies on the right from inciting violence, ya gotta ban the sane left when they do similar things.

Apparently they were taking clips from other youtube videos and reuploading them without comment. So, now I don't know if they were banned for uploading the content they were trying to expose, or for stealing content. It's not considered "fair use" if you don't make any comment or criticism of it.
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Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2021, 04:01:57 PM »
They got their acct back, I figured they would https://www.rawstory.com/right-wing-watch-reinstated/
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Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2021, 02:33:00 PM »
Don't conservatives hate the feds and want the free market to handle everything? Go capitalism!

White supremacist's, NAZI's and the KKK have their own internet forums and messaging systems where they can spew their vile lies and hate and ignorance without anyone stopping them. Will they be forbidden from banning blacks and Jews?

Will the Flat Earth forums be shut down by the government if they don't let us roundies say whatever we want here? Can't be censoring us for our views after all! Can't wait for the class action on that one.

Seems like the free market is working just fine, if conservatives want a place to speak their mind freely they can go to Parler or Fox News and say whatever they want. Or, they could just not say ignorant things. Being able to instigate a riot on Twitter isn't a freedom granted to you in the constitution. You want to vent racist bullshit, go where you are welcome.

Conservatives don't care about free speech, they are just mad they have to occasionally deal with the consequences of their own actions.

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Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2021, 05:25:35 PM »
Right Wing Watch is not conservative.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2021, 11:49:13 PM »
Don't conservatives hate the feds and want the free market to handle everything? Go capitalism!
We also eat babies.   ::)

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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2021, 05:21:42 AM »
Don't conservatives hate the feds and want the free market to handle everything? Go capitalism!
We also eat babies.   ::)

Maybe you an answer my question. Does Hillary like it fried or grilled? Or is your baby eating cabal separate from hers?

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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2021, 07:33:53 AM »
Don't conservatives hate the feds and want the free market to handle everything? Go capitalism!
We also eat babies.   ::)

No, we atheists eat babies.  Other groups can't start eating babies now.  There won't be enough surplus babies left to sustain us!
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Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2021, 09:32:11 AM »
Don't conservatives hate the feds and want the free market to handle everything? Go capitalism!
We also eat babies.   ::)

No, we atheists eat babies.  Other groups can't start eating babies now.  There won't be enough surplus babies left to sustain us!
That's where the sex trafficking comes in.
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2021, 12:28:06 PM »
There is no good answer, only differing judgements. Should facebook etc publish anything? Pro nazi, pro-pedophile, jews are untermenschen, etc? Who should judge what should be said? Govt? Private company/rich tech entreprenuer? Nobody? Democracy? What system of censorship would make all happy?

Then there is the gray area problem. Dog whistle, hinting at something so that your supporters know what you mean but your opponents can't pin you down. Trump saying "no violence" in the same speech he said "fight like hell". Something for everyone.Someone trying to get the message out without breaking a rule.

Who will judge? You determine the answer by picking the person. A huge number of people will be unhappy no matter what.

The real problem is that people don't do consistency checks, assume the thing and see if that implies contradiction to known reality, and not explaining such with conspiracy. They attach to groups emotionally and then believe a story that serves their purpose. For instance, someone who wanted to believe the earth is flat might decide that NASA is a giant conspiracy.
Is it possible for something to be both true and unproven?

Are things that are true and proven any different from things that are true but not proven?

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2021, 07:43:29 PM »
Of course big techs censor you. If you disagree with left agenda on Facebook or Twitter you instantly banned. But here is the irony. Big Techs are capitalists and have lots of money yet they support Socialist and left wing movements. They are also not open to any opposing views. You either become a socialist or else. If I was president the first order of business would be to arrest all Big Tech CEO's. shut down social media and eventually entire internet. So they can take their apps and their little apple pay and stick it straight up their candy asses. LOL
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2021, 08:41:30 PM »
Of course big techs censor you. If you disagree with left agenda on Facebook or Twitter you instantly banned. But here is the irony. Big Techs are capitalists and have lots of money yet they support Socialist and left wing movements. They are also not open to any opposing views. You either become a socialist or else. If I was president the first order of business would be to arrest all Big Tech CEO's. shut down social media and eventually entire internet. So they can take their apps and their little apple pay and stick it straight up their candy asses. LOL

Do you know how much right wing racist, misogynist and generally hateful BS that is floating around the likes of YouTube? Every time I go on there I have to keep telling it 'don't recommend posts from this channel'

A funny one was all the incels crying about the new 'legendary' edition of Mass Effect won't show a characters giant arse on the screen as they use a different camera angle. To hell with your brand of entertainment and shitty speech!   >:D

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Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2021, 10:07:57 PM »
Don't conservatives hate the feds and want the free market to handle everything? Go capitalism!
We also eat babies.   ::)

No, we atheists eat babies.  Other groups can't start eating babies now.  There won't be enough surplus babies left to sustain us!

I was wondering about the recent price increase.
(can't really ask the 'butcher'")   ::)

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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2021, 04:34:59 AM »
Of course big techs censor you. If you disagree with left agenda on Facebook or Twitter you instantly banned. But here is the irony. Big Techs are capitalists and have lots of money yet they support Socialist and left wing movements. They are also not open to any opposing views. You either become a socialist or else. If I was president the first order of business would be to arrest all Big Tech CEO's. shut down social media and eventually entire internet. So they can take their apps and their little apple pay and stick it straight up their candy asses. LOL

How can you get so many things wrong in such a compact little rant? ;D

Well no, if you were President you could pout and slam your fists on the desk all day but no, you couldn't just arrest Big Tech, or shut down the entire internet. We have laws you know. Even the President has to follow them.

You really have no idea how an actual democracy works, do you. Or the internet. I should make a list of things you don't understand.

You are again describing a dictator, but you have already shown you love them and admitted you would rather the country be run by one so this is no surprise.

I also love how you threw Apple Pay into there for, no apparent reason. Just a nice little touch to your crazy babbling.

That fantasy of yours is as terrifying as it is insane.

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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2021, 06:05:19 AM »
You could just ignore him.
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2021, 07:55:58 AM »
You could just ignore him.

They would much rather shit up every thread with this bullshit!
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2021, 11:23:05 AM »
Of course big techs censor you. If you disagree with left agenda on Facebook or Twitter you instantly banned. But here is the irony. Big Techs are capitalists and have lots of money yet they support Socialist and left wing movements. They are also not open to any opposing views. You either become a socialist or else. If I was president the first order of business would be to arrest all Big Tech CEO's. shut down social media and eventually entire internet. So they can take their apps and their little apple pay and stick it straight up their candy asses. LOL

How can you get so many things wrong in such a compact little rant? ;D

Well no, if you were President you could pout and slam your fists on the desk all day but no, you couldn't just arrest Big Tech, or shut down the entire internet. We have laws you know. Even the President has to follow them.

You really have no idea how an actual democracy works, do you. Or the internet. I should make a list of things you don't understand.

You are again describing a dictator, but you have already shown you love them and admitted you would rather the country be run by one so this is no surprise.

I also love how you threw Apple Pay into there for, no apparent reason. Just a nice little touch to your crazy babbling.

That fantasy of yours is as terrifying as it is insane.
 

You may have a big list of things I don't understand, I have a very short yet very important list of things you don't understand. You don't understand how to be an American and the rest don't really matter. LOL
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2021, 05:34:18 AM »
Of course big techs censor you. If you disagree with left agenda on Facebook or Twitter you instantly banned. But here is the irony. Big Techs are capitalists and have lots of money yet they support Socialist and left wing movements. They are also not open to any opposing views. You either become a socialist or else. If I was president the first order of business would be to arrest all Big Tech CEO's. shut down social media and eventually entire internet. So they can take their apps and their little apple pay and stick it straight up their candy asses. LOL

How can you get so many things wrong in such a compact little rant? ;D

Well no, if you were President you could pout and slam your fists on the desk all day but no, you couldn't just arrest Big Tech, or shut down the entire internet. We have laws you know. Even the President has to follow them.

You really have no idea how an actual democracy works, do you. Or the internet. I should make a list of things you don't understand.

You are again describing a dictator, but you have already shown you love them and admitted you would rather the country be run by one so this is no surprise.

I also love how you threw Apple Pay into there for, no apparent reason. Just a nice little touch to your crazy babbling.

That fantasy of yours is as terrifying as it is insane.
 

You may have a big list of things I don't understand, I have a very short yet very important list of things you don't understand. You don't understand how to be an American and the rest don't really matter. LOL

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

I think I understand what it means to be an American far better than you do. You're just another in a long line of racist xenophobic terrified children selfishly trying to keep everyone else out now that you got yours. Go hide under your bed and don't come out.

If you don't want the democracy and freedoms you have been given, you don't deserve them. Luckily this is America so you get them anyway.

Such lazy entitlement, you don't need to know stuff because you are white and American and thus deserve to have it all. Pathetic and sad.

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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2021, 11:39:43 AM »
Of course big techs censor you. If you disagree with left agenda on Facebook or Twitter you instantly banned. But here is the irony. Big Techs are capitalists and have lots of money yet they support Socialist and left wing movements. They are also not open to any opposing views. You either become a socialist or else. If I was president the first order of business would be to arrest all Big Tech CEO's. shut down social media and eventually entire internet. So they can take their apps and their little apple pay and stick it straight up their candy asses. LOL

How can you get so many things wrong in such a compact little rant? ;D

Well no, if you were President you could pout and slam your fists on the desk all day but no, you couldn't just arrest Big Tech, or shut down the entire internet. We have laws you know. Even the President has to follow them.

You really have no idea how an actual democracy works, do you. Or the internet. I should make a list of things you don't understand.

You are again describing a dictator, but you have already shown you love them and admitted you would rather the country be run by one so this is no surprise.

I also love how you threw Apple Pay into there for, no apparent reason. Just a nice little touch to your crazy babbling.

That fantasy of yours is as terrifying as it is insane.
 

You may have a big list of things I don't understand, I have a very short yet very important list of things you don't understand. You don't understand how to be an American and the rest don't really matter. LOL

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

I think I understand what it means to be an American far better than you do. You're just another in a long line of racist xenophobic terrified children selfishly trying to keep everyone else out now that you got yours. Go hide under your bed and don't come out.

If you don't want the democracy and freedoms you have been given, you don't deserve them. Luckily this is America so you get them anyway.

Such lazy entitlement, you don't need to know stuff because you are white and American and thus deserve to have it all. Pathetic and sad.

No, no, New Earth is right.
You don't understand.  You know what Real Americans did with thise huddle masses yearning to breath free?  They used them as cheap, disposable labor.
Know what Real Americans did?  They took land without thought of the "savages" who lived there.
Real Americans take what they want, use the weak and helpless, then claim moral superiority over all others.
Real Americans use propoganda in things like the pledge to the flag (placing under god there to seem more moral), forcing children to recite it as a ritual and calling it "disrespectful" if you don't pledge yourself to a flag.
Real Americans celebrate Columbus: a man who was so wrong, he nearly lost all his ships, found new land that two other groups had found before him, took all the credit for the 'discovery', then led the conquest of said land, its peoples, and its resources.  But children are given a fairy tail about how he wanted to prove the earth was round and find a shortcut to India.

That is what it means to be a Real American.  What you think?  Thats far from reality.
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2021, 05:56:41 PM »
Of course big techs censor you. If you disagree with left agenda on Facebook or Twitter you instantly banned. But here is the irony. Big Techs are capitalists and have lots of money yet they support Socialist and left wing movements. They are also not open to any opposing views. You either become a socialist or else. If I was president the first order of business would be to arrest all Big Tech CEO's. shut down social media and eventually entire internet. So they can take their apps and their little apple pay and stick it straight up their candy asses. LOL

How can you get so many things wrong in such a compact little rant? ;D

Well no, if you were President you could pout and slam your fists on the desk all day but no, you couldn't just arrest Big Tech, or shut down the entire internet. We have laws you know. Even the President has to follow them.

You really have no idea how an actual democracy works, do you. Or the internet. I should make a list of things you don't understand.

You are again describing a dictator, but you have already shown you love them and admitted you would rather the country be run by one so this is no surprise.

I also love how you threw Apple Pay into there for, no apparent reason. Just a nice little touch to your crazy babbling.

That fantasy of yours is as terrifying as it is insane.
 

You may have a big list of things I don't understand, I have a very short yet very important list of things you don't understand. You don't understand how to be an American and the rest don't really matter. LOL

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

I think I understand what it means to be an American far better than you do. You're just another in a long line of racist xenophobic terrified children selfishly trying to keep everyone else out now that you got yours. Go hide under your bed and don't come out.

If you don't want the democracy and freedoms you have been given, you don't deserve them. Luckily this is America so you get them anyway.

Such lazy entitlement, you don't need to know stuff because you are white and American and thus deserve to have it all. Pathetic and sad.


When quoting anything from American past JJA you need to understand the concept and the content. Yes it does say give me your poor and tired, but it implies only European immigrants,  you must look at the implication my friend. Who ever told you that I got mine? Liberals assume that every white person is rich, well that is because most white Liberals are rich, Limo liberals in gated communities who never have to to deal with urban problems, overeducated college snobs, drinking their coffee in a coffee shop with gender neutral bathrooms. You can keep your rhetoric man, no one listens to you and in 2024 you will find out what Americans really want. We are not going to allow another coup and another stolen election. What democracy and freedom I have been given? You guys made me put on a face diaper and lock down my country for over a year and now you want to inject me with magnetic vaccine that will shut down my immune system. Thanks for all your freedom and democracy LOL

Lord Dave so I suppose we need to take down Columbus statues and replace them with statues of Aztecs who sacrifysed their own people to false gods? No thanks.
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2021, 06:04:35 PM »
I say we take down the statues of Columbus and replace them with statues of our lord and savior Daniel Shenton.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2021, 06:18:41 PM »
I say we take down the statues of Columbus and replace them with statues of our lord and savior Daniel Shenton.


Hahaha. Yes we do need a statue to flat earthers, I agree. Columbus was most likely a flat earther.
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2021, 01:57:53 AM »
Of course big techs censor you. If you disagree with left agenda on Facebook or Twitter you instantly banned. But here is the irony. Big Techs are capitalists and have lots of money yet they support Socialist and left wing movements. They are also not open to any opposing views. You either become a socialist or else. If I was president the first order of business would be to arrest all Big Tech CEO's. shut down social media and eventually entire internet. So they can take their apps and their little apple pay and stick it straight up their candy asses. LOL

How can you get so many things wrong in such a compact little rant? ;D

Well no, if you were President you could pout and slam your fists on the desk all day but no, you couldn't just arrest Big Tech, or shut down the entire internet. We have laws you know. Even the President has to follow them.

You really have no idea how an actual democracy works, do you. Or the internet. I should make a list of things you don't understand.

You are again describing a dictator, but you have already shown you love them and admitted you would rather the country be run by one so this is no surprise.

I also love how you threw Apple Pay into there for, no apparent reason. Just a nice little touch to your crazy babbling.

That fantasy of yours is as terrifying as it is insane.
 

You may have a big list of things I don't understand, I have a very short yet very important list of things you don't understand. You don't understand how to be an American and the rest don't really matter. LOL

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

I think I understand what it means to be an American far better than you do. You're just another in a long line of racist xenophobic terrified children selfishly trying to keep everyone else out now that you got yours. Go hide under your bed and don't come out.

If you don't want the democracy and freedoms you have been given, you don't deserve them. Luckily this is America so you get them anyway.

Such lazy entitlement, you don't need to know stuff because you are white and American and thus deserve to have it all. Pathetic and sad.


When quoting anything from American past JJA you need to understand the concept and the content. Yes it does say give me your poor and tired, but it implies only European immigrants,  you must look at the implication my friend. Who ever told you that I got mine? Liberals assume that every white person is rich, well that is because most white Liberals are rich, Limo liberals in gated communities who never have to to deal with urban problems, overeducated college snobs, drinking their coffee in a coffee shop with gender neutral bathrooms. You can keep your rhetoric man, no one listens to you and in 2024 you will find out what Americans really want. We are not going to allow another coup and another stolen election. What democracy and freedom I have been given? You guys made me put on a face diaper and lock down my country for over a year and now you want to inject me with magnetic vaccine that will shut down my immune system. Thanks for all your freedom and democracy LOL

Lord Dave so I suppose we need to take down Columbus statues and replace them with statues of Aztecs who sacrifysed their own people to false gods? No thanks.

How do you know they were false?  Have you proven the Aztec gods did not or do not exist?  Also, you do know that such sacrafices were likely voluntary.  Sadly, we don't have alot of info because the spanish who wiped them out only wrote what they saw (and were very biased) without having any context.
Much like if a man from the 15th century saw you getting angry at the computer, he'd assume you were communing with satan and write as such.

Also, we should put up statues of Bartolomé de las Casas instead of Columbus.
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

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« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2021, 12:51:29 PM »
If you want to abolish Columbus, you basically need to change Western Hemisphere as we know it, changing the names of countless cities and towns, including the country of Columbia, good luck on that one.

You said that the Spanish wiped out Aztecs? No man the Spanish colonization of Central and South America was very different then Anglo Saxon practices in North America. You see Spain is Catholic and as long as Natives converted to Catholicism they went unharmed and actually married European Spanish people. Do you even know that most people in Latin and South America are a mixture of white Spaniards and native Americans. Most Mexicans are actually completely Native with no European blood, so how did the Spaniards wiped them out? Ridiculous.
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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2021, 01:00:55 PM »
Tear down every statue of any man. Idolizing people is stupid

So destroy every President statue too. And wipe clean Mount Rushmore. What a joke that is. And you say God blesses your country?? So much for not worshiping false idols! You guys are the worst for it!

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Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2021, 01:38:44 PM »
If you want to abolish Columbus, you basically need to change Western Hemisphere as we know it, changing the names of countless cities and towns, including the country of Columbia, good luck on that one.

You said that the Spanish wiped out Aztecs? No man the Spanish colonization of Central and South America was very different then Anglo Saxon practices in North America. You see Spain is Catholic and as long as Natives converted to Catholicism they went unharmed and actually married European Spanish people. Do you even know that most people in Latin and South America are a mixture of white Spaniards and native Americans. Most Mexicans are actually completely Native with no European blood, so how did the Spaniards wiped them out? Ridiculous.

What happened to those who would not convert to Catholicism?

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Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2021, 01:50:57 PM »
If you want to abolish Columbus, you basically need to change Western Hemisphere as we know it, changing the names of countless cities and towns, including the country of Columbia, good luck on that one.
Lets start with one country, one holiday, one bit of propoganda.... And go from there, eh?

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You said that the Spanish wiped out Aztecs? No man the Spanish colonization of Central and South America was very different then Anglo Saxon practices in North America. You see Spain is Catholic and as long as Natives converted to Catholicism they went unharmed and actually married European Spanish people. Do you even know that most people in Latin and South America are a mixture of white Spaniards and native Americans. Most Mexicans are actually completely Native with no European blood, so how did the Spaniards wiped them out? Ridiculous.
O.o

So... Let me get this straight.  Its not wiping out a culture and civilization... If the people abandon their culture and take yours in order to survive?
Wow. 
So what you're saying is that if every Jew in the world converted to Islam or died, Jews would still exist?
Do you understand how dumb you sound?  And how evil?
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

I am a terrible person and I am a typical Blowhard Liberal for being wrong about Bom.

Re: Big Tech Censorship
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2021, 06:18:51 AM »
If you want to abolish Columbus, you basically need to change Western Hemisphere as we know it, changing the names of countless cities and towns, including the country of Columbia, good luck on that one.
Lets start with one country, one holiday, one bit of propoganda.... And go from there, eh?

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You said that the Spanish wiped out Aztecs? No man the Spanish colonization of Central and South America was very different then Anglo Saxon practices in North America. You see Spain is Catholic and as long as Natives converted to Catholicism they went unharmed and actually married European Spanish people. Do you even know that most people in Latin and South America are a mixture of white Spaniards and native Americans. Most Mexicans are actually completely Native with no European blood, so how did the Spaniards wiped them out? Ridiculous.
O.o

So... Let me get this straight.  Its not wiping out a culture and civilization... If the people abandon their culture and take yours in order to survive?
Wow. 
So what you're saying is that if every Jew in the world converted to Islam or died, Jews would still exist?
Do you understand how dumb you sound?  And how evil?

Those that didn't convert were still protected by the "Leyes de Indias", which abolished slavery for the natives and gave them the same status as the Spanish citizens.

In 1500 Queen Isabel abolished their slavery and granted the natives the right to have private property. In 1540,  King Charles V banned forced evangelization.

Other laws included the right to get fair salaries, protection against harassment and, as times passed, 8 hour workdays, weekends, etc, exactly at the same time as in mainland Spain.