Raleigh scattering

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Raleigh scattering
« on: June 22, 2021, 05:27:41 PM »
The reason the sky is light blue all day over the entire dome, even at dawn or dusk, is Raleigh scattering. The blue wavelength is subject to bouncing off molecules in the air, while longer wave lengths are not. The sun appears to be yellow orange because that is the color left that does not get scattered after the blue is subtracted by the scattering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering
 
My question is why this scattering ends so abruptly at sunset. On FE, the sun is still up there, we know that Raleigh works over the entire distance across the dome, we all see it everyday, scattering works over the longest distance possible on FE. So what stops the scattering after sunset until dawn?

Is it possible for something to be both true and unproven?

Are things that are true and proven any different from things that are true but not proven?

Re: Raleigh scattering
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2021, 07:51:54 PM »
The reason the sky is light blue all day over the entire dome, even at dawn or dusk, is Raleigh scattering. The blue wavelength is subject to bouncing off molecules in the air, while longer wave lengths are not.

Description is a bit too simplistic. Not an either/or situation. Scattering intensity scales as (wavelength)^-4, so it is a continuous function, but much more is scattered in the blue than in longer wavelengths. Just FYI.

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narcberry

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Re: Raleigh scattering
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2021, 12:33:07 AM »
If you go into studying Raleigh scattering assuming the earth is flat, instead of round, the math resolves just as cleanly to support a flat earth.

You need to check your assumptions, son.

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Thunderwolf

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Re: Raleigh scattering
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2021, 10:10:55 AM »
If you go into studying Raleigh scattering assuming the earth is flat, instead of round, the math resolves just as cleanly to support a flat earth.

I think the above quote is a bogus claim. How does the "math resolve ... to support a flat earth?"
How does 'Rayleigh scattering' even depend upon 'Earth shape assumptions'? The two are independent phenomena.

If you have 'Raleigh-scattering-math' that supports FET, please present that math.

The OP does not seem to be a question of "resolving the math" (whatever that means), but a question of logic:
    If the sun never sets (FE model), then why is the sky not everywhere blue all the time? If the sun is a "spotlight" illuminating only one portion of the flat disc at a time, then the Raleigh scattering at right angles to that intense light beam would illuminate the entire disc's sky with [predominantly] blue light all the time (even over areas that are not being directly illuminated by the "spotlight" at that moment). Because of a bright sky, there can be no nighttime darkness anywhere. That is not what we observe. We daily observe the absence of light in the sky (which we call nighttime). The globe model explains this well.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2021, 08:23:19 PM by Thunderwolf »
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narcberry

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Re: Raleigh scattering
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2022, 06:04:54 AM »
If you go into studying Raleigh scattering assuming the earth is flat, instead of round, the math resolves just as cleanly to support a flat earth.

I think the above quote is a bogus claim. How does the "math resolve ... to support a flat earth?"
How does 'Rayleigh scattering' even depend upon 'Earth shape assumptions'? The two are independent phenomena.

If you have 'Raleigh-scattering-math' that supports FET, please present that math.

The OP does not seem to be a question of "resolving the math" (whatever that means), but a question of logic:
    If the sun never sets (FE model), then why is the sky not everywhere blue all the time? If the sun is a "spotlight" illuminating only one portion of the flat disc at a time, then the Raleigh scattering at right angles to that intense light beam would illuminate the entire disc's sky with [predominantly] blue light all the time (even over areas that are not being directly illuminated by the "spotlight" at that moment). Because of a bright sky, there can be no nighttime darkness anywhere. That is not what we observe. We daily observe the absence of light in the sky (which we call nighttime). The globe model explains this well.

It will become clear once we look at your math. Show me your math.

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Bullwinkle

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Re: Raleigh scattering
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2022, 05:29:19 AM »
Funny how people shout out about the math and don't bother to provide math to support their shit.
RE and FE both.
Fun to laugh along. 
Seriously, frikin' morons.



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narcberry

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Re: Raleigh scattering
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2022, 08:39:55 PM »
Well obviously the RE'ers cant produce any data to support their claim. This thread has been closed.

ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FE!!!

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JJA

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Re: Raleigh scattering
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2022, 01:47:18 PM »
Uh guys, there was a link in the very first post that showed the math.

Really.  ::)

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JackBlack

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Re: Raleigh scattering
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2022, 03:17:44 PM »
Yes, there was math in the link in the OP.
But this math doesn't have the shape of Earth at all.