Flat Earth Maps?

New york state to the province of ontario?
YA.... pretty sure youll find some wide variety in distances due to vagueness of location.

Or are you trying to get more spcific with the NYC to London, ontario?


Sydney to sandiego vs vice versa
Wise has a map of plane times.
Route a path eastwards.
Compare it westwards.
Let us know your findings.

There are indeed differences but the differences are small when there are straight and direct roads connecting the two locations and large when locations are separated by oceans or situation where roads needs to curve through forests or deserts or when an area is very underdeveloped, such as sub Saharan Africa. For example, difference in distance between New York and Ontario may be relatively small but difference in distance between London and New York may be much larger. Difference in distance between Sydney and San Diego would be much more larger.

What difference in distances are you referring to? The difference in distance between Sydney and San Diego relative to what? What do you think the delta is with the distance between Sydney and San Diego in comparison to whatever you're comparing it to?

I still have not seen an explanation to how he knows there are discrepancies but doesn't know where they are or how big.

That's the rub..."Deserts are distorted, by how much and by what measurement, don't know...But they are distorted, damnit!"

There are indeed differences

And that means it wont work.
Either the locations will accurately map to a round surface or a flat surface. It can't be both.

situation where roads needs to curve through forests or deserts

Which only helps you if you are just relying upon the distance along the road.
If instead you accurately map it (as has been done) then the error is quite small, and those distances are accurately known.

For example, difference in distance between New York and Ontario may be relatively small but difference in distance between London and New York may be much larger. Difference in distance between Sydney and San Diego would be much more larger.

And those differences show the FE model is wrong, as it doesn't match reality.

I still have not seen an explanation to how he knows there are discrepancies but doesn't know where they are or how big.

Aks him if hes a maga hat.

Quote from: Platonius21 on June 17, 2021, 06:30:30 AM

If the earth were flat, it would be easy to make an accurate, fixed scale map on a flat sheet of paper.

It is impossible to make such a map because the earth is not flat.

There are a lot of rural unexplored areas and oceans where the differences occurs. What happens is that people simple measure the distance between cities and forcefully plot it on a round Earth, while distortions actually occurs on the rural areas and oceans, which is largely unexplored and very few people would notice inconsistencies. Meanwhile, as long as the sunrise is not too far away from the cited data, no one would notice. Let’s say the sunrise is 15 minutes off the true value in your city. Would anyone really notice it? Perhaps 30 minutes off? Even if a small number of people do notice, they will soon forget it after the sun rises.

Where exactly are these ‘unexplored areas’ you are referring to?

Sunrise and sunset times are absolutely accurate. If you own a smart phone the times are clearly given for whichever location you happen to be in.

The topic of maps have been discussed numerous times on this forum. Maps made since the late 1700 using accepted surveying methods were pretty accurate. Maps of France made during that period stand up pretty well even today. Maps made now using data from satellites are super accurate.

As I’ve often repeated there is no possibility of an accurate alternative flat earth ever being produced.

It’s complete nonsense to imagine that you could shuffle the continents around to fit with flat earth thinking. They are where they are and have been shown to be so, continental drift aside.

If our current maps are correct how on earth could there ever be an alternative set flat or otherwise.

It really staggers belief that people imagine that there are issues with our current maps given the 24/7 movement of countless numbers of various types of global transportation that relies on accurate navigation.  If there were a problem with a continent not being where it marked I think someone may have noticed… don’t you?

Quote from: Platonius21 on February 09, 2022, 05:34:49 AM

Quote from: Flatearthreign on February 08, 2022, 01:42:47 PM

The thing is that the main distortions occur in places where roads don’t even exist. Such as Sahara desert, oceans, etc. United States and Europe is unlikely to be distorted,

Well then here's a little project for you:  Take a map of the United States. Use the established distances between Boston, Miami, Seattle, and San Diego and the fixed scale indicated on the map.  Try to verify the distances using a ruler and the map scale. If the earth were flat it would be easy to do, but you won't be able to do it because of the distortions caused by trying to lay the map of a curved surface out on a flat sheet of paper.

Why would I put a flat map on a ball and expect the result to be worthwhile in demonstrating reality. Only morons want to take the reality of a flat earth and desire to place it on a ball and then try to gaslight the shit out of an audience.

Are you totally incapable of understanding? I never mentioned a ball. I asked you to take a map and try to use its scale to verify established distances between major cities. And all you do is come up with senseless rant.

Did you know that in Medieval times, people were statistically smarter than the average modern Gen Z bum? All their maps of the Earth were FLAT people! What more evidence do you need? It is truly tragic to see the decline in enlightenment over time. We become more primitive every day.