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« Reply #390 on: December 16, 2021, 10:30:45 AM »
The last prophet was Malachi.  After the shekhinah departed there was no further prophecy possible.
Actually, the only prophet you need is Zoroaster.
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« Reply #391 on: December 16, 2021, 10:36:23 AM »
PLAGARIST!

Much like Islam itself.
How?

I have spent time learning about the major faiths of the world, including Islam, and my overall impression of Islamic theology and philosophy is that is an off-shoot of Christianity that rejected trinitarianism and returned to strict monotheism.

Most likely it arose as a result of interaction with early Christianity which was still in a state of flux, and borrowed heavily from Christian theology and philosophy, as well as scripture (often from early non-canonical sources), and by extension Jewish tradition.

Being strictly monotheistic required demoting Jesus to a prophet, albeit it one taken bodily in to heaven, much like Mary in Roman Catholic theology.

To me at least, it feels like Islam took Judeo-Christian tradition, and rewrote it to suit the culture of Arabian Peninsula at the time.

As Jesus was Jewish there is an inherited tradition in Christianity, and so it does not borrow from Judaism, rather extends it.  As there is no such link between Judeo-Christian tradition and Islam, other than Islam's assertion that it is the primordial religion and Judaism and Christianity are a corruption of that religion, then any borrowing would be plagiarism.  Plagiarism ascribed to God.
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« Reply #392 on: December 16, 2021, 10:56:54 AM »
PLAGARIST!

Much like Islam itself.
How?

I have spent time learning about the major faiths of the world, including Islam, and my overall impression of Islamic theology and philosophy is that is an off-shoot of Christianity that rejected trinitarianism and returned to strict monotheism.

Most likely it arose as a result of interaction with early Christianity which was still in a state of flux, and borrowed heavily from Christian theology and philosophy, as well as scripture (often from early non-canonical sources), and by extension Jewish tradition.

Being strictly monotheistic required demoting Jesus to a prophet, albeit it one taken bodily in to heaven, much like Mary in Roman Catholic theology.

To me at least, it feels like Islam took Judeo-Christian tradition, and rewrote it to suit the culture of Arabian Peninsula at the time.

As Jesus was Jewish there is an inherited tradition in Christianity, and so it does not borrow from Judaism, rather extends it.  As there is no such link between Judeo-Christian tradition and Islam, other than Islam's assertion that it is the primordial religion and Judaism and Christianity are a corruption of that religion, then any borrowing would be plagiarism.  Plagiarism ascribed to God.
Indeed.  There are theories that the whole "smashing the idols" was a part of the conceit and that Arabs were already actually worshiping various Abrahamic flavours already - Mo just plugged into that.  We will never really know, as there are almost no sources until 200 years after he croaked.

Keep in mind is that as Persia and Byzantium collapsed under plague and war it would have literally felt like the End of the World to many living in central Asia.  There were all sorts of travelling ministers preaching End Times versions of Christianity and other (often very weird) versions of Abrahamic religion in the area.
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« Reply #393 on: December 18, 2021, 01:41:39 AM »
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was illiterate
He does not know how to read and does not know how to write
Therefore, he did not quote anything from any civilization

The Jews tried to kill the Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet Jesus and other prophets, peace be upon them, just to spread the religion of God, which acknowledges the oneness of God
The Jews did not tolerate any prophet who violated their corrupt law

the Prophet Muhammad Peace be Upon Him,
He did not agree with the Jews  and the Christians in their beliefs and actions that are contrary to the law of God

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It was later translated into many languages, but it was only a thousand years after the advent of the Prophet that it was adapted into Arabic. So even supposing that he knew how to read and write his native language, we could not validly demand of him that he be bilingual or polyglot, that he handle Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Syriac, the Coptic or the Gothic and let him hide it with such great dexterity from the eyes of the whole world.

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The only possible answer is that God is inspired.to the Prophet Muhammad Peace be Upon Him


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« Reply #394 on: December 18, 2021, 01:44:55 AM »
the chapter ar-Rahmaan in the Qur’an:
“O assembly of Jinns and men, if you can penetrate the regions of the heavens and the earth, then penetrate them! You will not penetrate them except with authority.”
Qur’an,55:33
Authority to travel in space can only come from the Creator of the laws which govern movement and space. The whole of this Qur’anic chapter invites humankind to recognize God’s beneficence.

At this point, we must ask ourselves the following question: How could an uneducated man in the middle of the desert accurately tackle so many and such varied subjects at a time when mythology and superstition reigned supreme? How could he so skillfully avoid every belief that was proven to be totally inaccurate many centuries later?


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« Reply #395 on: December 18, 2021, 04:24:21 AM »
The Jews tried to kill the Prophet Muhammad

They didn't try. They did. Good on them. A Jewish woman poisoned that pitiful bastard and he lived in agony until his death

In fact, on his death bed he said words to the effect of 'I still feel pain from the poisoned meat that I had 3 years ago'

Good. A quick death would have been too kind. A lingering death was deserved for that piece of shit. He was a fucking barbarian.

How much better would the world have been if his mum just took it up the arse that night? Curse be to his mum too.

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« Reply #396 on: December 18, 2021, 04:51:00 AM »
The Jews tried to kill many prophets
Like the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, they accused his mother of adultery

 The Jews accused Jesus peace be upon him many false accusations, magic and madness ,


These are the spoilers and those who follow them



many of the prophets came to the  jwes
 for  reform corruption, disobedience and rebellion, so they needed reform always.A corrupt society always needs a lot of efforts of preachers and reformers, and physical and psychological diseases, if spread and spread in a society, it needs more doctors and therapists.







The hadith was not corrected by Bukhari and he denied it

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In the event that the hadith is proven authentic, it is a miracle  for two reasons


when the prophet started eating, he said:” stop eating, because this sheep is poisoned”.

 

the prophet then went to this woman and asked her about the reason of her action, and she replied that she was paid by her tribe to do that.

The Prophet Muhammad ate the poisoned goat is that he did not suspect the existence of a poison in it. It is natural for eating to take place, but the Messenger stopped eating it and he did not die

  - What the Jewish woman said is that Muhammad,   if he was a prophet, God would tell him, and if he wasnt a prophet, he would die .
 Indeed, God told him and lived until he completed the message.

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« Reply #397 on: December 18, 2021, 12:14:05 PM »
The Jews tried to kill many prophets
Like the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, they accused his mother of adultery

Jesus was a Jew.

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« Reply #398 on: December 18, 2021, 12:38:23 PM »
The Jews tried to kill many prophets
Like the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, they accused his mother of adultery

Jesus was a Jew.

But Jews are the sworn enemies of Islam. They are conditioned to hate them with every fibre of their being.

Next thing you'll see yasoooo say that Jesus was a Muslim lol

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« Reply #399 on: December 18, 2021, 12:40:54 PM »
The Jews tried to kill many prophets
Like the Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, they accused his mother of adultery

Jesus was a Jew.

But Jews are the sworn enemies of Islam. They are conditioned to hate them with every fibre of their being.

Next thing you'll see yasoooo say that Jesus was a Muslim lol
Yasooo will say that the great pedophile Mohammd ate dates and was immune to poisen.

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« Reply #400 on: December 18, 2021, 01:13:53 PM »
Some Christian missionaries are determined to criticize the marriage of Prophet Mohamad (saws) to Aisha (ra). We can explain to them that this kind of marriage was totally legitimate for the Arab society of the 7th century, but in bad faith, they persist in judging the prophet (sws), an Arab man of the 7th century !

Mary married Joseph when she was twelve years old, meaning that she was young, and Joseph her husband was over ninety!!

- Roman women married and had sex at the age of 12 and under, before having their period, with husbands who could be their grandfathers.

little Christian women married and had intercourse very early for centuries, intercourse that would be punishable by law today. In France, it was not until the Revolution and the break with Christianity that the age limit rose to 13 years.


Now if we follow the reasoning of some Islamophobic Christian missionaries, we should consider that all Christians were pedophiles, and that Jesus and Paul were accomplices in pedophilia since they did not condemn these practices that existed in their day.

The bottom line is that these marriages need to be put in their historical context. The mentalities of the early Christians or those of the Ancien Régime are different from the mentality we have today, just as the mentality of the Arabs of the 7th century is different from our Western mentality of the 21st. What shocks us 21st century citizens today was legitimate in other times.

- Since no New Testament writings condemn this practice, not even Paul who gave recommendations on marriage and married life, Christians have continued to follow these customs.

- The Council of Trent convened by Pope Paul III in 1542 confirms the age of marriage at 12 for girls


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« Reply #401 on: December 18, 2021, 01:25:52 PM »
Some Christian missionaries are determined to criticize the marriage of Prophet Mohamad (saws) to Aisha (ra). We can explain to them that this kind of marriage was totally legitimate for the Arab society of the 7th century, but in bad faith, they persist in judging the prophet (sws), an Arab man of the 7th century !

If we shouldn't judge a 7th century Arab man then I guess he is insignificant and we shouldn't listen to a 7th century Arab man!

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« Reply #402 on: December 18, 2021, 08:48:51 PM »
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So you're saying it was ok for Muhammed because others engaged in the depravity too?

I know of no other culture that married little girls at 6 though. That truly is beyond sickening and says all you need to know about the misogyny of a culture. Fuck that

Even now, thanks to the continued barbarism and misogynistic bullshit values of Islam, girls are forcibly arranged to marry old men for profit. Girls are beaten and 'honour killed' if they dare look or feel love at other men that some male in their family 'disapproves' of. Dress nice? Killed for it. Speak up about your human rights and freedoms? Jailed or killed

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« Reply #403 on: December 19, 2021, 03:07:58 AM »
He did not marry her at the age of six, but the Prophet waited until Aisha reached puberty




We know that at the time, there was no commune to register the child in a national register or certificate issued by the hospital mentioning the exact moment of birth, and therefore only parents could we Given the age of the child (and again!), . We do not have hadiths reported by Aicha's parents (Abu-Barker and Um-Rumane) about Aisha's age at the time of her marriage. Similarly, the people of that time, they could only give us an approximation. There is obviously a doubt about it. Today, some of our grandparents do not even know their exact age, sometimes there is 5.6.7 ... years of age difference, so what about when it was 14 centuries ago! ?

We have no proof of a national register of the Arabian Peninsula of the 7th century AD! We only have suggestions, estimates and approximations.

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Your words are wrong. You just want to stir up temptation with your lies about Islam but the media and people like you hypocrites distort this picture

You are just brainwashed by fake media about Muslims
The customs, traditions and cultures of peoples have nothing to do with the teachings of Islam that respect women


Someone told me

Some Islamophobes on this forum (and elsewhere) say Islam is suppressive towards women.

Yet, it has been conclusively proven that 70% of all new converts to Islam both in the USA and in Europe are women. This would be indicative that it is not suppressive but highly solicitous of women.

What do you say to those critics who insist that Islam suppresses women in light of that fact?

If I read you correctly, you are saying that Islam provides spiritual comforts and dimensions that other religions/teachings do not. That it is more than religious teaching but includes lifestyle alteration and attitudes which is what appeals to women.

One things for sure, Islam's critics have no answer for why so many women convert to it despite all the allegations that it is a contrarian religion.


while women have undeniably gained freedom, in the West, in recent decades, equality is still far away and the commercial world has never really stopped exploiting its image in a manner always degrading in order to sell a certain model of society.


The woman is too often represented there as a sexual slave, a symbol of desire, a piece of meat or even a brainless jug reduced to a simple object of consumption. Believe me, the image of the real woman is not at the heart of their considerations..


Western society falsely claims to have uplifted womenWestern talk of women’s liberalization is nothing but a disguised form of exploitation of her body, degradation of her soul and deprivation of her honour. Western society claims to have ‘uplifted’ women. On the contrary it has actually degraded them to the status of concubines, mistresses and society butterflies who are mere tools in the hands of pleasure seekers and sex marketeers, hidden behind the colourful screen of ‘art’ and ‘culture



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« Reply #404 on: December 19, 2021, 03:37:03 AM »
No one gives a shit about your cherry picked anecdotes.

At least in western countries, women are free to get a licence to drive a car. Free to go out without a male relative escorting them. Free to get a passport to travel the world. Free to speak. Free to get a job and be independent. Free to wear what they like. Free to marry who they love. Free to divorce and so on

Crime exists everywhere. Western countries no exception. But in Islamic shit like Saudi Arabia, home to Mecca, women are treated like 2nd rate shit and that treatment is written into law. Fuck your Islam and your false prophet to hell.

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« Reply #405 on: December 19, 2021, 05:45:55 AM »

The Holy Quran is for every Muslim the sacred Book par excellence, a timeless miracle, the word of God devoid of all defects and above all, inimitable. You surely understand that in other words, to be inimitable is to have a peculiarity that no other has and cannot have. The abundance of examples illustrating the harmony and this linguistic balance of the Koran completely excludes the possibility of a happy coincidence, or an addition of the scribes. To those who claim to provide a work similar to the Qur'an, we ask them to provide us with a Book that will remain intact for more than 14 centuries and which will gather more than a billion worshipers around him, reciting it and crying as he listens to it. This is actually impossible ....



The word sunna, in the Arabic language, indicates at the same time a way, and a tradition even a habit. This terminology has a particular connotation among the ulemas according to their specialty. Sunnah can be defined as all the cult practices with the times of the prophet and his companions. On this subject, the prophet constantly said: "Follow my sunnah and the sunnah of successor rights after me" Tirmidhi. That being said, the ulama of the science of hadith regard everything connected with the life of the prophet as sunna, both history and the physical or moral characteristics of the prophet, either before or after the revelation.

. Whoever claims to love Allah must obey and follow His Prophet - may Allah's prayer and salvation be upon him, on the one hand Allah will love him and on the other hand Allah will forgive his sins. Sunnah concerns not only the way of dressing, eating and drinking, but also and above all beliefs, legal rules, sticking to what the Prophet did as a purely religious act, the behavior towards others, Muslim values, good behavior ... etc


The Holy Quran letter cannot be changed. It is rather the interpretation which we make of it nowadays which must quickly re-integrate the reality and the spirit of the revelation ... In all reality the interpretation of the Koran by the Koran consists in interpreting certain verses of the Koran by other verses bringing a complementary lighting on the same subject what is expressed concisely in one place is explained and detailed in another place.

If we do not find the interpretation of The Holy Quran in its own verses, we turn to the hadîths and sure accounts of the Sunnah because they clarify the Koran and enlighten it.




In reality, there has always been a lot of time, see several centuries, between the prophets and yet the new revelation has always corrected the additions made to the statements of the previous one. Do you not see right in the case of Christianity that a new testament came a thousand years after an old one and more than five thousand years after the genesis to make the necessary modifications according to divine inspiration

In fact every word, in the Qur'anic verses and hadiths has been passed under the sieve of science. It clearly emerged that the scientific evidence of the Qur'an clearly proves its divine origin

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« Reply #406 on: December 19, 2021, 09:32:38 AM »

The Holy Quran is for every Muslim the sacred Book par excellence
Thanks for that stunning insight.
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« Reply #407 on: December 19, 2021, 09:50:05 AM »

The Holy Quran is for every Muslim the sacred Book par excellence
Thanks for that stunning insight.
What the fuck is he rambling on about?

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« Reply #408 on: December 19, 2021, 11:53:50 AM »

The Holy Quran is for every Muslim the sacred Book par excellence
Thanks for that stunning insight.
What the fuck is he rambling on about?

He's just a mouthpiece for regressive, degenerate bullshit 7th century values. It's no wonder he finds groups like ISIS and the Taliban so awesome.

The only comfort is if there really is a hell, that's where he's going. No creator of a universe is going to want to spend eternity with that POS muppet

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« Reply #409 on: December 19, 2021, 12:33:45 PM »

The Holy Quran is for every Muslim the sacred Book par excellence
Thanks for that stunning insight.
What the fuck is he rambling on about?

He's just a mouthpiece for regressive, degenerate bullshit 7th century values. It's no wonder he finds groups like ISIS and the Taliban so awesome.

The only comfort is if there really is a hell, that's where he's going. No creator of a universe is going to want to spend eternity with that POS muppet
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« Reply #410 on: December 19, 2021, 10:03:17 PM »
There are many liars, Christians and Jews, who spread false rumors about Islam and Muslims, and many ignorant people believe them because they are like them, and even their media is false.
Even major crimes are attributed to the victim and the perpetrator is left and even supported by misguided idiots
Jews and Christians commit these crimes and attribute them to Muslims to ignite the fire of war against Muslims
America plays with misguided idiots like puppets many times And they believe in America
You just have  to accept the truth and familiarize yourself with its obviousness. It is not enough just a mood on your part
 I know you can't help but be blind but let's try to trace the truth to you and hope that a passing Christian reader might pick up on this truth.

when Western soldiers without exception were blessed before each mission preceding the bombing of civilians by Christian priests who are on all Western bases in the world.
This situation and behavior of Christians is the real instigator and troublemaker against Christians across the Muslim world.

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
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Much of the false news about Muslims in the media is believed by ignorant people


you  don't have the slightest clue what is going on in Afghanistan. All we have is zionist media,
We don't live there don't talk ignorantly



Afghanistan are good Muslim people

The media distorts their image

I didn't live with them and I don't care what the fake media thinks

So that I don't judge people ignorantly


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ISIS is the same as created and controlled by the Zionists. ISIS fighters are provided with a plentiful free "all weapons" to create evil monsters beyond imagination. They return to ISISRAHELL for medical treatment.


They kill Muslims and non-Muslims
Many extremists are armed from the West


    Therefore
    Islam has nothing to do with these false accusations



the familiar fact of Washington's unwavering support for Israel in the diplomatic arena, at what sometimes seems to come at a heavy cost to America's interests. And there were threats against those in Washington who opposed Israeli policies: Senators and representatives sent to defeat, like Charles Percy and Paul Findley, for defying the Jewish lobby.



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Like many of the things attributed to Muslims unfairly charges
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After the slander and lies against Islam in the events of 9/11

شاهد أكبر كذبة في التاريخ كذبة أحداث 11 سبتمبر Biggest Lie in History Loose Change 9 11




God grant victory to Islam after the injustice directly

CNN - after 9/11 she converted to ISLAM, this is WHY ?




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ALLAH TA'ALA says “This day have I perfected your religion, completed My favors to you and have chosen Islam as a religion. 6:3”

Islam, the Deen of ALLAH TA'ALA is perfected and completed by His Book -the Qur'an Majeed and Sunnah of His beloved Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wasallam)

 the message of the Qur’an is universal, even if the Qur’an is in Arabic, because the Qur’an contains the true words of God, and because it is the last book of guidance to mankind

You can translate, and if you make mistakes, you have one original language, Arabic. You can verify your translation by searching for the original source
And one Quran through the ages


Contrary to the Bible
Although the language in which Christ spoke Aramaic,
It was later translated into many languages,Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Syrianc, the Coptic or the Gothic
You do not have an original source to verify it

The Bible is more than one copy
The Bible may look like one book, but it is actually sixty-six books in one. Thirty-nine books make up what we call the Old Testament, and twenty-seven make up the New Testament


Islam is not  new religion.
From Adam to Muhammad, peace be upon them
 It is the same message preached by Moses, Jesus and Abraham. Islam literally means ‘submission to God’ and it teaches us to have a direct relationship with God. It reminds us that since God created us, no one should be worshipped except God alone. It also teaches that God is nothing like a human being or like anything that we can imagine. The concept of God is summarized in the Quran as:

“Say, He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He does not give birth, nor was He born, and there is nothing like Him.” (Quran 112:1-4)[4]

Becoming a Muslim is not turning your back to Jesus. Rather it’s going back to the original teachings of Jesus and obeying him.





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« Reply #412 on: December 19, 2021, 11:05:44 PM »
…because the Qur’an contains the true words of God, and because it is the last book of guidance to mankind.

You forgot about The Book of Mormon - it came as divine guidance to mankind way after the Quran.

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« Reply #413 on: December 19, 2021, 11:17:23 PM »
There are many liars, Christians and Jews, who spread false rumors about Islam and Muslims

An islamic preacher commenting on a rape case perpetuated by some Muslim gang rapists many years ago said 'If she wears anything that beautifies her appearance, she is eligible for rape'

Fuck him, and fuck you yasoooo

There are many bad actors in every religion. Islam is no exception. You are no exception. You're a terrorist sympathiser and apologist. Despicable.

If a Muslim man blows himself up in an Israeli bus full of school kids, you'd cheer him. You're a POS

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« Reply #414 on: December 19, 2021, 11:56:18 PM »
Why this Mormon Accepted Islam?




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« Reply #415 on: December 20, 2021, 08:30:32 AM »
Mormon Christian Accepts Islam - My Journey to Islam

My Name Used to Be Muhammad: One Man's Journey from Muslim to Mormon

But leaving Islam and becoming a Mormon would make me a marked man. I had no choice, though, I told myself. I had compiled quite a collection of sins. More than anything, I wanted a
clean conscience. I told the Mormon leaders in Cairo that I wanted to be baptized.

To my surprise, they told me no. The Church simply did not have the legal authority to baptize Muslims in Egypt, and Mormon policy prohibited it. I could attend church and act like a Mormon. I just couldn’t be one.

With the help of the Nigerian embassy and individual members of the LDS Church, I landed in Ghana shortly after my release from prison. Unlike in Egypt, Mormonism was flourishing in
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« Reply #416 on: December 20, 2021, 08:32:46 AM »
There are many liars, Christians and Jews, who spread false rumors about Islam and Muslims.
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« Reply #417 on: December 20, 2021, 12:30:45 PM »
What a stupid argument. We could also ask 'why do people join cults?' The ones where they slave Labor for an ordinary man, be raped, sever ties with friends and family or even suicide

Frankly, many religions behave like a cult. Freedom is suppressed. Doctrine is forced. Servitude for faith. Some kill themselves for it. Crazy. But some people find comfort in these groups feeling like they are special and included. Religion works the same.

You get one life in this wonderous universe. Why waste it based on lies used thousands of years ago to control the masses?

So I don't give a shit about anecdotes where 'x' person joined Islam. So what? People join Scientology too and look at that shit. Does saying Tom Cruise joined Scientology validate Scientology's truthfulness? Fuck no

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Alexei

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« Reply #418 on: December 20, 2021, 12:36:55 PM »
What a stupid argument. We could also ask 'why do people join cults?' The ones where they slave Labor for an ordinary man, be raped, sever ties with friends and family or even suicide

Frankly, many religions behave like a cult. Freedom is suppressed. Doctrine is forced. Servitude for faith. Some kill themselves for it. Crazy. But some people find comfort in these groups feeling like they are special and included. Religion works the same.

You get one life in this wonderous universe. Why waste it based on lies used thousands of years ago to control the masses?

So I don't give a shit about anecdotes where 'x' person joined Islam. So what? People join Scientology too and look at that shit. Does saying Tom Cruise joined Scientology validate Scientology's truthfulness? Fuck no
All religions are actually cults.
They are the same.

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« Reply #419 on: December 20, 2021, 01:35:16 PM »
What a stupid argument. We could also ask 'why do people join cults?' The ones where they slave Labor for an ordinary man, be raped, sever ties with friends and family or even suicide

Frankly, many religions behave like a cult. Freedom is suppressed. Doctrine is forced. Servitude for faith. Some kill themselves for it. Crazy. But some people find comfort in these groups feeling like they are special and included. Religion works the same.

You get one life in this wonderous universe. Why waste it based on lies used thousands of years ago to control the masses?

So I don't give a shit about anecdotes where 'x' person joined Islam. So what? People join Scientology too and look at that shit. Does saying Tom Cruise joined Scientology validate Scientology's truthfulness? Fuck no

Not a word I disagree with.

I don't have an issue with people believing whatsoever they do, but religion, it's all just control, subjugation and judgement.
S'ils te font de la peine, je les tuerai sans gêne.