Mars? Are you sure?? :D

@JackBlack & @Sokarul... try again.

Why?
You have a photo of Earth shining like Mars.

C*** Going Insane

CGI 👍

Quote from: Danang on March 09, 2021, 01:21:22 AM

@JackBlack & @Sokarul... try again.

Not only too bright, it's also dynamic 👌

No. Your late dad was just a talented supporting actor. Your real dad donated his swimmers to the test tube baby boom resulting in you. The whole world watched as a pair of b-grade actors took you home to the big brother house.

If you make it known you want to go to the moon or mars, the production team will make it happen for you. Ofcourse you'll wind up in a sci-fi moon scape or mars scape sound stage. Just play along with it.

Who are my real father & the Big Brother?
Can they send bikini girls around me?

🤔

You might as well complain that the God of War didn't smash the landers with his mighty sword and rain down fire upon the Earth so clearly the landers are fake.

Hey, it's Tuesday. How fitting. 

🤔
Logical.

Not only too bright, it's also dynamic 👌

Yes, just like Earth.
Like I said, set up a camera to take a photo of the night sky without it set to do any auto adjustment.
Then, using the exact same settings take a photo of Earth during the day.
They will be the same.

But turn down the exposure, like what happens roughly 30 s into the video, and you can see it is not too bright.

But that video doesn't have high enough resolution to see any significant features on Mars.

Danag

At 12pm noon.
The sunniest time of day.
Open the curtains so your room is bright and sunny.
Sit inside a dark closet for 5min with your eyes open until your eyes adjust to the darkness.
Then leave the closet.
Do you have to squint because the sun suddenly got brighter over the 5min?
Or are you squinting because your pupils had opened while sitting in the dark closet?

Earth people seeing the moon in illuminating condition.

Moon people seeing the earth in non-illuminating condition.

Moon is self illuminous.
Earth is non self illuminious.

Try again 👌

Why does the lot side always face the sun?

Why are full moons always at night?

Why do lunar eclipses happen?

Why is it so easy to disprove what you say?

Earth people seeing the moon in illuminating condition.

Moon people seeing the earth in non-illuminating condition.

Moon is self illuminous.
Earth is non self illuminious.

Try again 👌

Who are these moon people you are referring to?

@sokarul what the buck are you talking about? Why not stick to my said proposition?

(I prefer b word to f word) 

@Stash

Space people are much more quantity than people think.

Celestial bodies have the characteristic of technological bodies. There must be people there to operate the bodies. Even mount eruption is not a natural occurrence. It is a "project".

Ancient called those people as "angels" or "gods" or even "anchestors".

Earth people seeing the moon in illuminating condition.

Moon people seeing the earth in non-illuminating condition.

Moon is self illuminous.
Earth is non self illuminious.

Try again 👌

With what?
You just spouted a bunch of nonsense with no justification at all?

We can see the moon, and clearly observe how its phase relates to its position relative to the sun.
It certainly appears to not be self-luminous.

Wow.  These claims are worth spending the time to read just for the entertainment value.

So the Moon is self-luminous is it.  I see.  And just what physical process or processes occur in or on the Moon to cause this self-illumination. Which as JB points out just happens to be in sync with the Moons elongation from the Sun to cause the phases we see. Self-illumination implies there must be a release of energy so where does that energy come from? 

When I look through my telescope at the Moon I can't help but sense that I am looking at light being reflected off the surface.  Especially since you can see the shadows of the mountains on the lunar surface and these change in appearance and shape from night to night. Almost as if the angle of incident light is changing as the Sun gets higher in the lunar sky. That wouldn't happen if the Moon was self-illuminating. Lots of shadows around the craters and mountains on the terminator at first/last quarter.  No shadows at all when the Moon is full. How could that happen if the Moon was self-illuminating?

Earth non-self luminous...  yep I agree with that bit.  How about Venus?  You know the morning or evening star.  The brightest object in the sky after the Sun and Moon.  Is that self or non-self 'illuminous'?

Celestial bodies have the characteristic of technological bodies

Really.. what sort of characteristics would that be then?

@sokarul what the buck are you talking about? Why not stick to my said proposition?

(I prefer b word to f word) 

They were simple questions. Try reading them again.

A flatearther spotted a light source in front of the moon.
Perhaps it may be a reflection, but MUCH BRIGHTER than mere sunray reflection.

The point is, the moon and planets are much brighter than the earth.
So the photos & videos of moon and planets are hoax. There should be a high level of illumination.

A flatearther spotted a light source in front of the moon.
Perhaps it may be a reflection, but MUCH BRIGHTER than mere sunray reflection.

The point is, the moon and planets are much brighter than the earth.
So the photos & videos of moon and planets are hoax. There should be a high level of illumination.

What are you looking at to determine how bright earth is? How do you know earth isn't as bright as the moon?

A flatearther spotted a light source in front of the moon.
Perhaps it may be a reflection, but MUCH BRIGHTER than mere sunray reflection.

Would that have been a natural or artificial light source?  Any more information?  Just saying a light source is a bit vague.

The point is, the moon and planets are much brighter than the earth.
So the photos & videos of moon and planets are hoax. There should be a high level of illumination

How do you know how bright the Earth is?

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A flatearther spotted a light source in front of the moon.
Perhaps it may be a reflection, but MUCH BRIGHTER than mere sunray reflection.

Would that have been a natural or artificial light source?  Any more information?  Just saying a light source is a bit vague.

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The point is, the moon and planets are much brighter than the earth.
So the photos & videos of moon and planets are hoax. There should be a high level of illumination

How do you know how bright the Earth is?

The light source device must be operated by living creatures (angels).
Ancient belief is more scientific.
The universe does not work all naturally. It's mostly operated by angels. There is organized work that dismisses natural mechanism. It is Impossible for natural way to consider. E.g. comet. They come and go freely. So, no gravity involved. Comet must be a spacecraft.

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See the ground and surrounding at day time. Do your eyes feel terrible? Nope. Coz the reflection is under telerant lumination for eyes. That's why in photography you don't need to adjust the filter rate as you do for luminious bodies like the moon.

Quote from: Danang on March 17, 2021, 03:52:58 PM

A flatearther spotted a light source in front of the moon.
Perhaps it may be a reflection, but MUCH BRIGHTER than mere sunray reflection.

The point is, the moon and planets are much brighter than the earth.
So the photos & videos of moon and planets are hoax. There should be a high level of illumination.

What are you looking at to determine how bright earth is? How do you know earth isn't as bright as the moon?

Your camera know how to see earth and how to see the moon.
Both has different rate of luminiousness. So the camera needs to adjust the filtering.

Quote from: Stash on March 17, 2021, 03:55:55 PM

Quote from: Danang on March 17, 2021, 03:52:58 PM

A flatearther spotted a light source in front of the moon.
Perhaps it may be a reflection, but MUCH BRIGHTER than mere sunray reflection.

The point is, the moon and planets are much brighter than the earth.
So the photos & videos of moon and planets are hoax. There should be a high level of illumination.

What are you looking at to determine how bright earth is? How do you know earth isn't as bright as the moon?

Your camera know how to see earth and how to see the moon.
Both has different rate of luminiousness. So the camera needs to adjust the filtering.

What cameras are you referring to? My camera can only see the earth from the earth. Can yours somehow see the earth from far away from earth

The light source device must be operated by living creatures (angels).

Why?

Ancient belief is more scientific.

Why?

The universe does not work all naturally. It's mostly operated by angels

If you say so...where did the angels come from then?

Comet must be a spacecraft.

Why must comets be spacecraft?

That's why in photography you don't need to adjust the filter rate as you do for luminious bodies like the moon.

So you are an expert on lunar photography now are you.  OK describe your equipment you use to do lunar photography and then I will describe mine.  I don't know about you but I always find I get better images when using narrowband filters (especially OIII) rather than RGB filters.  How about you?  Also I always favour the IMX290 chip for lunar imaging. The 174 just doesn't perform to the same level.

A flatearther spotted a light source in front of the moon.

Citation needed.

The point is, the moon and planets are much brighter than the earth.

No, they aren't.
All you need to do to realise this is to get a camera with manual settings rather than automatic exposure, take a picture of these celestial objects, such that you can see the detail in them, rather than just glare, and then take a photo of Earth, during the day, with those same settings.

If you do, the photo of Earth will be extremely overexposed.

So the photos & videos of moon and planets are hoax. There should be a high level of illumination.

This is entirely circular reasoning.
You assert that they must be really bright, to dismiss any photos of them showing them not super bright, so you can then pretend it is super bright.

In reality, there are no reasons to think those photos are fake, especially given that you can take one yourself.
And they conclusively show that it isn't some massively bright light source.

Your camera know how to see earth and how to see the moon.
Both has different rate of luminiousness. So the camera needs to adjust the filtering.

Yes, by letting in far less light when photographing Earth during the day, as Earth is so bright.

@Solarwind

The light source device must be operated by living creatures (angels) because it cannot occur by natural mechanism in which gravity is regarded as the main cause. When gravity is found zero evidence, the next hypothesis of the cause of nature phenomenon will be angels asa well as machinerylike mechanism. The universe is full of technology. That's, again, the consequence of dismissing the gravity.

Ancient belief is more scientific because their knowledge can be verified by logic, obsevation, experiment and research.
They believed in angels, that is right. Even volcano eruption is not natural phenomenon. It is a burning and bombing project at the crater.

Angels come from the higher location above the flying land called "the cloud". The arrive at the cloud by a spacecraft called "meteor".
Angels are everywhere, even below the ground. The breathing earth phenomenon needs operators. It cannot occur by natural causes.

"Gravity doesn't exist" is a terrific mantra. It open the pandora box. Comet must be a spacecraft, because it needs energy. The energy must be not gravity, it must come from living creature.

As to photography stuff, it should not be put into something simple such as how differ a reflection and light source. Any eyes can differ both stuff easily.

Quote from: Danang on March 17, 2021, 03:52:58 PM

A flatearther spotted a light source in front of the moon.

Citation needed.

Quote from: Danang on March 17, 2021, 03:52:58 PM

The point is, the moon and planets are much brighter than the earth.

No, they aren't.
All you need to do to realise this is to get a camera with manual settings rather than automatic exposure, take a picture of these celestial objects, such that you can see the detail in them, rather than just glare, and then take a photo of Earth, during the day, with those same settings.

If you do, the photo of Earth will be extremely overexposed.

Quote from: Danang on March 17, 2021, 03:52:58 PM

So the photos & videos of moon and planets are hoax. There should be a high level of illumination.

This is entirely circular reasoning.
You assert that they must be really bright, to dismiss any photos of them showing them not super bright, so you can then pretend it is super bright.

In reality, there are no reasons to think those photos are fake, especially given that you can take one yourself.
And they conclusively show that it isn't some massively bright light source.

Quote from: Danang on March 17, 2021, 04:50:26 PM

Your camera know how to see earth and how to see the moon.
Both has different rate of luminiousness. So the camera needs to adjust the filtering.

Yes, by letting in far less light when photographing Earth during the day, as Earth is so bright.

Citation needed?
I hope next in the future everything related to flat earth will be well documented, when flat earth has become the official subject in schools.
For time being all you need to do is search.

And... while own eyes can differ the high level light and just the mere reflector, no need to talk about photography. 👌

@Danang

All I will say is this.  You have a most interesting perception and experience of the world.  Your imagination is far more - what's the world - different to mine.

Citation needed?

Yes, you make a claim, with no justification, to try to dismiss reality, and that claim isn't even related to the issue.

The simple fact is that all the available evidence indicates that the moon and Mars both merely reflect light.

And... while own eyes can differ the high level light and just the mere reflector, no need to talk about photography. 👌

You mean that because photography clearly shows you are wrong, you will just dismiss it?
The moon and Mars are not brighter than Earth. There is no indication that they are light sources.

@Danang

All I will say is this.  You have a most interesting perception and experience of the world.  Your imagination is far more - what's the world - different to mine.

Thank you, but I believe your readings are much richer than mine.
I only rely on logic and mostly learn on Youtube. 😂
I believe, with such scientific attitude of yours, plus rich readings, you can do big things in science. 👌

Quote from: Danang on March 23, 2021, 03:30:04 PM

Citation needed?

Yes, you make a claim, with no justification, to try to dismiss reality, and that claim isn't even related to the issue.

The simple fact is that all the available evidence indicates that the moon and Mars both merely reflect light.

Quote from: Danang on March 23, 2021, 03:30:04 PM

And... while own eyes can differ the high level light and just the mere reflector, no need to talk about photography. 👌

You mean that because photography clearly shows you are wrong, you will just dismiss it?
The moon and Mars are not brighter than Earth. There is no indication that they are light sources.

If seen by naked eyes only, why does moon look shining and no details of its surface shown?

Why does earth look natural with clear clouds, sea and lands?