London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??

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London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« on: September 27, 2020, 03:17:19 AM »
Long/Lat
London: 51.50, -0.12
Dusseldorf: 51.22, 6.7

Distance:
480.18 km  :o

https://www.distance.to/Dusseldorf,North-Rhine-Westphalia,DEU/London

Flight Time
1 h 10" to 1 h 35"

https://www.edreams.com/travel/?locale=en_#/results/type=R;buyPath=1003;from=LON;to=DUS;dep=2020-10-10;ret=2020-10-16;adults=1;children=0;infants=0

Average Speed :
480.18 km / [ 1+(10:60) ] h = 411.58 kph. :o

To

480.18 km / [ 1+(35:60) ] h = 303.27 kph. :o

That's ONLY true for 👉 OLD TIME FLIGHTS  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2020, 03:27:55 AM »
The real distance 👉 1,503 km
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2020, 03:31:38 AM »
No, it's 7.9°, not 5.5°.
So the distance for London to Dusseldorf  2,158 km.
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2020, 03:33:23 AM »
Speed 👉 1,363 kph to 1,850 kph
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2020, 05:37:08 AM »
What did I just read?

Those speeds are faster than the speed of sound in air.

People are not wrong on the distance by 4x.
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2020, 12:46:08 PM »
Getting supersonic with "nonsupersonic' plane. Why not?
Competing the sun's speed exists in real flights.

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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2020, 12:53:03 PM »
Yes if wind is from the rear that can happen. It took a 200 mph tail wind to reach 700+ MPH. Still nowhere near the speed you require.


https://www.wired.com/story/norwegian-air-transatlantic-speed-record/
« Last Edit: September 27, 2020, 02:41:07 PM by sokarul »
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2020, 03:19:11 PM »
Not surprising to have such an apparently long flight.
Firstly, not a straight line between them.
Going from London, they take off to the west. Then it needs to turn around and fly to the east to get to Dussledorf, where looking at the history, it lands from the north east. Look at the return, it is just 1 hour and 10 minutes.
And you aren't just focusing on the flight time, but instead also including taxiing to the runway and taxiing to the gate. The actual flight time:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ew9469
is roughly 50 minutes.
The distance you are using isn't event the distance between runways but instead is the distance between city centres.
Doing it between runways you end up with a distance of roughly 500 km.
That means it has an AVERAGE speed of roughly 600 km/hr.
Not bad considering that the plane doesn't just magically accelerate to its cruising speed instantly.
Meanwhile, your alleged distance makes it insane, well above the actual cruising speed of the aircraft.

And of course, it doesn't help your case when similar flights exist in the south, for example, Sydney to Canberra, a distance of ~240 km, yet the times reported are over 1 hour.

As for New York to Moscow beating the sun (note: haven't watched the video), what is so special about that?
They aren't beating the sun, they are going around the other way.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2020, 03:22:19 PM by JackBlack »

Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2020, 04:17:41 AM »
You can travel London - Dusseldorf by train. Ignoring the hour and a quarter wait in Brussels and half hour wait in Cologne for connecting trains, it's a 4h 15min journey. If the distance is 2158km, that's an average speed of just over 500km/h or about 310mph. Very impressive speed for a train.

Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2020, 07:56:26 AM »
No, it's 7.9°, not 5.5°.
So the distance for London to Dusseldorf  2,158 km.
No.
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2020, 02:41:49 PM »

I have driven from Leicestershire, via Harwich-Rotterdam (ferry), stopped at Antwerp then on via Nijmegen to Dusseldorf in a 2.5 litre ford Grenada Mk1 (some time back) and unless the mileometer and the top speed of that fine machine were way out, the distance is as it is on conventional maps and your phew calculation are suspect.

FYI, this was before satnav was widely used, I used road maps.
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2020, 07:01:55 PM »
The highest speed of train record = 574.8 kph :o

The average usual speed? 400 kph? or what? That's quite reasonsble for Phew FE map  8)

Although I haven't proven it. :D

https://www.railway-technology.com/features/feature-the-10-fastest-high-speed-trains-in-europe/

And it's should be considered 👉 the range speed is 4 hours (+) to approximately 6 hours.

Which speed do you choose? 400 kph?

4h x 400 kph = 1600 km
6h x 400 kph = 2400 km

360 kph?
6 × 360 kph = 2160 km.

But the speed capasity is more than that. It could be 500 kph.

All seem okay with Phew FE map.

Meanwhile ... something is getting suspicious if 2 hours of nett journey takes the whole trip time of 11 hours.
How long is actually the ACTUAL trip time??  :o

https://www.thetrainline.com/en-us/train-times/brussels-to-london

How come you having the most sophisticated technology, all of sudden becames "backward"??

And why your flight becomes so 'snail'??

1.5 hours flight is supposed to cover much more than a distance of mere 480 km. It would be 1600 km to 2000 km or even more.

I believe you've really had a great technology with awesome speed capasity.

The issue is: 👉 Misleading Trip Data  :o

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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2020, 11:23:37 PM »
The highest speed of train record = 574.8 kph :o

The average usual speed? 400 kph? or what? That's quite reasonsble for Phew FE map  8)

Although I haven't proven it. :D

https://www.railway-technology.com/features/feature-the-10-fastest-high-speed-trains-in-europe/

And it's should be considered 👉 the range speed is 4 hours (+) to approximately 6 hours.

Which speed do you choose? 400 kph?

4h x 400 kph = 1600 km
6h x 400 kph = 2400 km

360 kph?
6 × 360 kph = 2160 km.

But the speed capasity is more than that. It could be 500 kph.

All seem okay with Phew FE map.

Meanwhile ... something is getting suspicious if 2 hours of nett journey takes the whole trip time of 11 hours.
How long is actually the ACTUAL trip time??  :o

https://www.thetrainline.com/en-us/train-times/brussels-to-london

How come you having the most sophisticated technology, all of sudden becames "backward"??

And why your flight becomes so 'snail'??

1.5 hours flight is supposed to cover much more than a distance of mere 480 km. It would be 1600 km to 2000 km or even more.

I believe you've really had a great technology with awesome speed capasity.

The issue is: 👉 Misleading Trip Data  :o

If the trip data shows up as it is, Phew Map RULES  8)

Not too bad. Your Phew map is only off by about 1000 km. Keep at it.

Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2020, 01:00:57 AM »
The average usual speed? 400 kph? or what?
No, not in the slightest.
The top speed for the high speed trains in use in Europe is closer to 300 km/hr, and that is their top speed.
They still need to accelerate as they leave their station and decelerate before arriving at their destination.
And they won't have perfectly straight tracks, especially if you want to look at a much larger distance between 2 separated cities.

So being generous and having the speed at 150 km/hr as an average (which hopefully also accounts for deviations from a straight line), you end up with ~600 km.
So far too short for your map.

Just like the flights when considered properly.

https://www.thetrainline.com/en-us/train-times/brussels-to-london
How come you having the most sophisticated technology, all of sudden becames "backward"??
Because you suddenly switched to Brussels.

1.5 hours flight is supposed to cover much more than a distance of mere 480 km. It would be 1600 km to 2000 km or even more.
But it is only actually 1 hour of flight.
Also, your number is pure insanity.
The plane does not magically accelerate to its cruising speed.
Even if it did, with a typical cruise speed of 900 km/hr, a 1.5 hour flight at this speed would be only 1350 km, much less than the 1.6 Mm or 2 Mm that you claim.
So once more your numbers are pure nonsense.

And you have still failed to address the flight I provided.
Why does it take 50 minutes to fly between Sydney and Canberra, a tiny distance of ~300 km?

The issue is your failure to comprehend how trips actually occur, including the acceleration and speeds involved.

Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2020, 06:26:07 AM »
The highest speed of train record = 574.8 kph :o

The average usual speed? 400 kph? or what? That's quite reasonsble for Phew FE map  8)

Although I haven't proven it. :D

Here's a full example you can check out:

Friday 2nd Oct

11:04 depart London St-Pancras (ES 9126 Eurostar train)
14:05 arrives Bruxelles-Midi (2h 1m)

20 minute wait at Bruxelles-Midi

14:25 depart Bruxelles-Midi (DB ICE 17 train)
16:15 arrive Köln Hbf (1h 50m)

16 minute wait at Köln Hbf

16:31 depart Köln Hbf (DB RE 28524 train)
17:01 arrive Düsseldorf Hbf (30m)

Total elapsed time is 4h 57m (times are local, there is 1h time difference between London and Düsseldorf). Take away the combined 36m wait time gives 4h 21m. You are changing trains twice.

Now take a closer look at the DB ICE 17 train. It has 3 intermediate stops at Bruxelles-Nord, Liège-Guillemins and Aachen Hbf.

And now the DB RE 28524 train. It has 4 intermediate stops at Köln Messe/Deutz, Köln-Mülheim, Leverkusen Mitte and Düsseldorf-Benrath.

So in total, from beginning to end you are stopping at 7 intermediate stations and changing trains twice, for a total of 9 stops. That's nine times the train has to slow down, stop, passengers on, passengers off, accelerate away.

And all this takes 4h 21m. The fastest train on any part of this route has a maximum (not average) speed of 300kph. The last 30 minutes is on a Regional Express train and these have top speeds of less than 200kph. With nine stops and a mix of trains, there is no way the average is anywhere close to 300kph let alone the 500kph plus that you need for your distances to work out.

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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2020, 03:57:43 PM »
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2020, 12:32:38 AM »
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2020, 12:43:10 PM »
Intermezzo  ;D


Thanks for this, genuinely. I assume this is Indonesian. I know nothing about Indonesian, but was curious after seeing your post, so read the Wikipedia entry. Fascinating story and such an interesting history of how this became the official national language. Learned something new and that's always a great way to start the day in my book. Thanks again.

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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2020, 12:44:46 PM »
"We provide service of prayer correction"
Perhaps it's the better translation.
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2020, 12:47:44 PM »
Back to the debate...
Hmm... I found South Polar Centered FE, but there are reports saying that's not the case.
You should convince me, and that's probably not easy because I've been researching a few years about it.
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2020, 01:40:40 PM »
Back to the debate...
Hmm... I found South Polar Centered FE, but there are reports saying that's not the case.
You should convince me, and that's probably not easy because I've been researching a few years about it.
Then how about you address the issues already raised.
For example, the very flight you bring up, which is impossible on your SP centred FE?

Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2020, 01:12:31 AM »
If many tourists say "Indonesia is paradise", don't easily believe it.:D Just prove it... after the pandemy gets terminated perhaps.👌

It certainly would be something to look forward to after several cancelled plans this year. You do make it sound nice.

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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2020, 06:12:45 PM »
Back to the debate...
Hmm... I found South Polar Centered FE, but there are reports saying that's not the case.
You should convince me, and that's probably not easy because I've been researching a few years about it.
Then how about you address the issues already raised.
For example, the very flight you bring up, which is impossible on your SP centred FE?

Plane's speed is variable, even beyond majority of people can predict. They only Read, not Research. Even tiday's 'conventional planes' can compete the sun.

And one thing for sure: there are many strange things in flight information as I have mentioned before.
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2020, 06:13:34 PM »
If many tourists say "Indonesia is paradise", don't easily believe it.:D Just prove it... after the pandemy gets terminated perhaps.👌

It certainly would be something to look forward to after several cancelled plans this year. You do make it sound nice.

Welcome! 
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2020, 06:15:47 PM »
Not too bad. Your Phew map is only off by about 1000 km. Keep at it.

More explanation please.
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2020, 06:33:21 PM »
Not too bad. Your Phew map is only off by about 1000 km. Keep at it.

More explanation please.

All the data shows you are wrong. That is what he meant.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2020, 03:51:31 AM by sokarul »
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2020, 07:18:59 PM »
Plane's speed is variable, even beyond majority of people can predict. They only Read, not Research. Even tiday's 'conventional planes' can compete the sun.
While it is variable, it is nothing like what you model needs it to be.
And as already explained, that plane didn't outrun the sun, it went the other way, in a manner which makes perfect sense on a RE, but no sense on your FE.

And one thing for sure: there are many strange things in flight information as I have mentioned before.
The only "strange" thing you have demonstrated is your complete inability to understand how flights work, or that your map doesn't work.
You are yet to show anything which is actually strange about them.

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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2020, 10:12:58 PM »
As long as no one can explain WHY flights ain't go north even if it's supposed to be the shortest route... PHEW will always tease you  8)
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Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2020, 10:55:38 PM »
As long as no one can explain WHY flights ain't go north even if it's supposed to be the shortest route... PHEW will always tease you  8)

Can you show that no flights go north?

Re: London to Dusseldorf Flight? Are You Sure??
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2020, 11:26:12 PM »
As long as no one can explain WHY flights ain't go north even if it's supposed to be the shortest route... PHEW will always tease you  8)
Why would we need to explain your false claim?

You are the one that needs to explain why flights DO go north.
You have been provided with plenty of examples in the past.