we have used math to prove what should (and does) happen on the RE.

No, you haven't.

Yes, we have.

We have provided you with the math that shows what the tilt should be on the RE.

(and earlier you have been provided with the math that shows you will be able to see the ground through a level tube).

You just choose to continually ignore it and come up with whatever lie you can to pretend you don't need to deal with it because it irrefutably shows you are wrong.

All so you can continue to spout your blatant lies which you continue to spout with no justification at all.

You've used calculations which have been handed to you as so called proof. You do not know them to be a proof.

You could very well be calculating a fantasy and I believe you are.

I know them to be a proof that your blatant lie is false.

The tilt would not be significant.

The tilt would be 0.27 degrees, as proven by simple math, beyond any doubt or possible refutation.

Again, it doesn't matter if you want to claim it is fantasy.

You claim that in this fantasy there would a massive tilt. The simple fact is that is a blatant lie.

The tilt would be insignificant.

Again, it doesn't matter if you want to accept reality or dismiss it as a fantasy, the math still holds and either way it shows you are wrong.

You argue against horizon saying your Earth is just too big to see it and then you go and argue a large object falling down a curve at just a short amount of miles.

Now you're trying to argue a tilt is just not visible.

You're playing with so called calculations because you think it fits the fantasy you've been led to believe as your truth.

You mean you have repeatedly pretended that the RE model has Earth as a tiny ball you can hold in your hand so you can pretend the horizon would not be visible, so you can pretend you would only see sky and see a massive tilt.

Conversely we have provided with simple, irrefutable math which shows your claims are wrong, repeatedly.

Doing the math, rather than just following your irrational hatred, we see that when standing close to sea level, the horizon would be almost indistinguishable from level, e.g. at 2 m it would appear 2.7 arc minutes below level.

Doing the math, at 2 m, the horizon is 5 km away, and then as things go further past the horizon, objects will start to be obscured by the horizon.

Such that at 30 km distance, (or 25 km past the horizon), ~50 m will be hidden.

This is quite large compared to the size of the object, but it is virtually nothing compared to Earth.

Doing the math, at that same 30 km distance, the object would be tilted away from you ~0.27 degrees.

You are yet to refute any part of this math. Instead you just dodge it however you can and claim it is all fantasy.

Grow up, and start dealing with the refutations of your claims.

Start justifying your blatant lies.

If you can't, stop making them.

What changes is what your eye can see over distance from bottom to top of an object due to light not reaching your eye from the bottom up over distance..

Again, that creates a region of darkness. It doesn't magically makes things lower down.

No math shows any claim to be incorrect, unless you actually show it to be incorrect

Which we have.

We have shown your claims about basically everything in this thread is an outright lie.

What you are really trying to say, without putting so bluntly is that you will refuse to accept anything that shows you are wrong, as you will dismiss it as fantasy and then pretend it doesn't matter.

Grow up.

It's clear nonsense as far as I'm concerned.

Simply because of your irrational hatred of the globe.

You are yet to justify your claims, and you are yet to refute the fact it is wrong.

Your claims are pure BS to anyone who bothers to actually think about them.

You wanting them to be true to prop up your irrational hatred of the globe will not change that fact.

Your claims are blatant lies.

The fact you continue to make them when you cannot justify them and cannot deal with the refutations of them shows you do not give a damn about the truth and are quite happy to blatantly lie to everyone to continue your irrational attack against the globe.

Yofeom your statements

We xan conclude your belief is that the earthball is only a few km in diameter.

Actually I've never said anything of the sort, nor implied it.

Actually, you have repeatedly implied it.

You imply every time you claim the ground would not be visible.

You imply when you claim that over a short distance of 30 km, an object would have a massive tilt.

You continually act like Earth is a tiny ball, as all your arguments rely upon that, or some other similar BS.

And the fact that you continually avoid simple math shows you know you are spouting pure BS and pretending Earth is a tiny ball.

Here is a simple question for you, what do you believe constitutes a massive tilt?

How many degrees must it be?

But at least put some effort in.

Follow your own advice.

Stop just spouting blatant lies and start trying to justify them.

Prove that the tilt would be massive, or admit that it is just your entirely baseless delusional opinion with no connection to reality at all.

Prove it or admit that it isn't a fact and presents no problem for the RE.

And while you are at it, answer the simple, trivial questions which show your claims to be pure BS:

Again, If you have a tube, 1 inch in a diameter and 10 inches long, with this tube level and you looking through the tube with your eye at the midpoint of the tube's height and directly against the end of the tube, how far below the tube can an object at 1 mile distance be, in order to still be visible through the tube?

Can you see the base of a tree at 1 mile distance, if the base of the tree is 6 ft below the level of the tube?

Again, what magic prevents us from seeing the RE through a level tube?