Have you ever seen this thing working?
How about because it appeals to dilithium, something which is impossible.
Or transparent aluminium.
I have a massive interest in truth seeking
Stop lying. You have no interest in the truth at all.
Again, the only question is if that is because you have deluded yourself so much that you truly believe your delusions are the truth and will reject anything that shows otherwise, or if it is because you are just a troll.
If you actually cared about the truth you would have accepted the evidence provided or provided a rational reason to object to it, even if that reason was your own photos showing a different result.
But ignoring that evidence, if you actually cared about the truth you would have accepted the logical argument that shows beyond any doubt that you are wrong, or you would have done the impossible and refuted it.
But instead you just use whatever excuse you can to dismiss it, with no objection to any point of the argument.
So it is quite clear you have no interest in seeking the truth, at least not on this forum.
You seem to accept anything so you won't see anything from my side.
Again, if we accepted anything, we would have accepted your plentiful lies.
The fact we don't, the fact we reject them and refute them shows that we don't just accept anything.
I accept things based upon evidence and logical reasoning, 2 things you are yet to provide, and 2 things which easily show you are wrong.
Directly focusing out level, you would see the sky
No, only if your FOV is small enough, such as it being 0, in which case you see nothing.
Where could your horizon possibly be just in this area?
For a RE, the horizon is only 2 times the distance below you that it is in your FE fantasy with a magically and inexplicably close horizon.
If it can do the 2 m, why can't it do the 4 m?
It can't exist and it wouldn't.
Again, PROVE IT!
Stop just repeating the same pathetic lie.
This is what I do with you people.
Yes, you ignore and insult the people that clearly show you are wrong, beyond any doubt, leaving you no wiggle room for any attempt at a rebuttal as you know you have been beaten.
Nope. I'm not dismissing any evidence. I'm responding.
You dismiss it as a conjob, with no justification at all other that it doesn't agree with you.
That is dismissing.
You are dismissing anything I say and coming back with the very same questions.
No, I am pointing out why your lies are lies.
That is not dismissing what you say. It is explaining why you are wrong.
Facts will change my mind.
Stop lying.
You have been presented with facts which you just repeatedly dismiss.
This facts are facts of math, not subject to any evidence.
It is a fact that the RE DOES have a horizon.
It is a fact that its position is dependent upon the altitude of the observer (and the radius of Earth, but as Earth is a physical object with a radius which changes so negligibly, and which you cannot control, that can be ignored as a variable).
It is a fact that all scopes have a FOV.
It is a fact that your ability to see the horizon though a level scope is dependent upon the above factors, i.e. the height of the scope above Earth and the FOV of the scope.
Thus it is a fact that your claim that you would never see the horizon through a level scope on a RE is an outright lie.
This was proven to you beyond any doubt with a simple logical argument you are yet to point out any problem with.
So it is a fact that you do not give a damn about facts and truth and that you have no interest in changing your mind.
Once more, here is the logical argument you are yet to present any rational challenge to:
1 - Looking down you see ground/sea, i.e. EARTH.
2 - Looking up you see sky.
3 - That means if you started out looking down and slowly raised your head, your would see some kind of transition between ground/sea and sky.
4 - Assuming there isn't anything getting in your way, this transition would be a line; below this line you would see ground/sea and above this line you would see sky.
5 - This is just like if you look at a basketball. You can see a line, "below" this line you see the ball, "above" this line you see the surroundings.
6 - This line would be the horizon for a round earth. So now the question becomes where is this line?
7 - Simple trig shows that the relationship between this angle, as measured from level, the radius of the ball, and your distance/height from the surface is:
cos(a)=r/(r+h).
8 - Doing the math for a RE when you are 2 m above it shows the horizon would only be 2.7 arc minutes below level, i.e. imperceptibly different from level, and entirely consistent with what is observed.
Are you going to try to honestly and rationally deal with it?
Are you going to event attempt to point out something that you believe is wrong with it, why you think it is wrong and what you think it should be?
Or will you surprise everyone and admit you have been lying to us this whole time?
If not, you have been presented with facts which show beyond any doubt that you are wrong, and these facts are not changing your mind.
You are all armed with massive appeals to what you believe is, authority.
The plentiful evidence you have been provided with is not authority.
The logical arguments you have been provided with is not authority.
We are not appealing to authority.
We are using evidence and logical arguments to establish facts which show beyond any doubt that you are wrong.