I have a passenger flight that only makes sense on the globe map

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That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers. And more, who do want to travel Chile? Nobody. It is not a proof existance of tickets. You can sell tickets to Mars can it be a proof you organize a travel to Mars? Nope. Stop lying.

Quote from: Stash on August 30, 2020, 10:22:24 AM

As well, you do not apply your criteria to all flights, only those that don't fit your model of earth. A glaring oversight in logic. If you truly wanted to use this as criteria as proof, you need an un-edited video of every flight you claim to be real. You do not provide this therefore you do not meet your own criteria.

Your criteria and its use are insufficient to support your claim.

My argument that flight is not proven. And it is still not proven. Stop to talk only in order to denying everything I told. Produce something creative.

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Same as above, your thread is an opinion and not evidence.

It is an evidence shows that flight is not proven, and it is a strong evidence in this case.

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Again, this is your opinion and not supported by evidence.

Again and again, my argument is that flight never proven, and it is so. Stop denying the facts.

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Opinion, not evidence based.

Everything that does not exist cannot be proven at any time. As I mentioned above, you can claim that you went to Mars and issue a ticket for it. How can it be proved that you are not going here? No. Burden of proof is on your side. I put it out. This claim has no validity. The fligt lie is expired. You need more lies.

Your evidentiary logic is "Who wants to travel to Chile?"? As well, your evidentiary logic is that Qantas murders its passengers? Seriously? I think the burden of proof is on you to back up those two claims.

Guess my evidentiary logic is the flight being not exist. Your understanding it this way show how you globularists missunderstanding the events. Such missunderstandings cause you missunderstand the shape of the world also.

No, your evidentiary logic is this, and this was just the start:

Quote from: wise on January 01, 2019, 05:54:08 AM

This is a thought. I wonder what happens people boarding Qantas Sydney-Santiago flights.

Maybe Qantas taking money from both NASA for deceive world and from Australia government for reducing number of homeless people. This may be a great monetization method. This meanwhile destroys flat earthers who want to try existance of this route.

win-win-win strategy. minimum fuel maximal gain. As a Qantas pilot, All you have to do is go and back from Antarctica and say, "I went and came back from Santiago."

It got crazier from there. Straight up saying an airline murders its passengers in order to hide the flat earth from, yes, just you. You really have to reel it in, just a bit. Let reality meet reality.

The mention you have take here is in the another thread. We are talking here about evidences of those flight. A conspiracy on a subject and a conversation based on evidence on that subject are different. You must first learn the difference between conspiracy theory and evidence.

Umm, you discount all evidence solely based upon conspiracy theory. How is one supposed to disassociate the two?

When presented with evidence that people have taken the flights you object to, you claim the passengers were murdered and dumped in the ocean to hide the fact that the flights don't exist.

Not to mention the fact that you don't apply your criteria for evidence to all flights. Only to those you don't think exist. That, unto itself, is a dubious notion at best.

So yeah, you should take a long hard look at what you think evidence is because you refuse to apply it evenly and objectively.

You are still mixing the things.

First I have put forward that no evidence of those flights are exist. After that I have told a conspiracy if those flights really exist but  they can not reacht at that time, and no evidence of what happened to passengers, no way remained but maybe they have throught passengers to Ocean. Otherwise, where are 1 millions of Sydney-Santiago passangers? Yes, if 1 million people were thrown into the ocean, we would definitely know that. But it is certain that if 1 million out of 20 million Australians somehow went to Chile, it would have been an approved flight. This means that more than one person goes from each apartment. So why are these people absent? These are logical arguments, not evidence. There is no need for evidence here. Those who need evidence have to prove that these passengers made this flight. Who are these people, what are their names, where do they live? Are there answers to these questions? No. It's a completely virtual flight. Oh snap!

I literally have no idea what you just wrote means.

Basically you have no evidence for passengers being murdered. You don't apply your criteria for what is a legitimate flight to all flights, only those you don't like. So you're entirely selective in what you call 'evidence'. Hardly scientific. And for some reason, you feel like people don't want to visit Chile.

I think if you read the above out loud, maybe a couple of times, you might see how silly all that is.

You think wrong. I have read your writing and laugh loudly after saw how silly all this. You have a problem of understanding what you read. I told that those flights aren't exist because of lack of evidences. In this case, somebody needs to prove what happoened to more than a million passangers. This is not an evidence but a question, who and why want to go Chile, a million of Australian? get out of here! There is better cities can be visitable, why Chile, only but to prove the earth is "supposedly a globe"? Ahaha. How funny. I did not believe that lie. I did not need to believe it, whatever you say can't change this. Because it is just a BS.

Like I said, your logic amounts to, "Why would someone want to go to Chile?"

I'll just let that stand for itself.

This flight is never proven. There is a thread proves it is not exist, here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82172.0

This flight company is on the black list already due to claiming some routes not exist, here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74179.0

You are wrong. The earth is flat, but not like globalist hoax.

You mean there is a thread where you claim it doesn't exist, with you blacklisting it because it shows your map to be wrong.

You have nothing more than your outright rejection to claim it doesn't exist.
Meanwhile, there is plenty of evidence to show it does exist, including time-lapse footage, the previous ability to buy tickets for it, all the flight tracker information for it, and plenty of people who claim to have flown it.

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This flight is never proven. There is a thread proves it is not exist, here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=82172.0

This flight company is on the black list already due to claiming some routes not exist, here: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74179.0

You are wrong. The earth is flat, but not like globalist hoax.

You mean there is a thread where you claim it doesn't exist, with you blacklisting it because it shows your map to be wrong.

You have nothing more than your outright rejection to claim it doesn't exist.
Meanwhile, there is plenty of evidence to show it does exist, including time-lapse footage, the previous ability to buy tickets for it, all the flight tracker information for it, and plenty of people who claim to have flown it.

No. I have clearly pointed out that lie depends on plents of evidences. On the other hand, you have nothing but some tickets. Your claiming those tickets being evidence do not make them magically evidences. They are pointless arguments, like everything about you.

No. I have clearly pointed out that lie depends on plents of evidences

No, instead you appeal to an absence of a very specific type of evidence you are yet to provide for ALL the flights that you claim are real.
This one tiny, insignificant piece of evidence not existing doesn't magically mean the flight doesn't.

Do you have any evidence at all that the flights have been faked? No.

On the other hand, you have nothing but some tickets.

And the other evidence you choose to ignore, such as flight tracker data, such as that provided by the OP, and history of plenty of flights, and people who have flown on the flights saying they have flown on them.

There is no reason at all to think this flight is fake.
So can you explain it on a FE?

No, instead you appeal to an absence of a very specific type of evidence you are yet to provide for ALL the flights that you claim are real.

Do you have a better idea instead?

This one tiny, insignificant piece of evidence not existing doesn't magically mean the flight doesn't.

It proves it's not being magically exist also.

Do you have any evidence at all that the flights have been faked? No.

Burden of proof is in your side. I have not to prove everything in your imagination world, considering you are already a denier of everything; JackDenier.

And the other evidence you choose to ignore, such as flight tracker data, such as that provided by the OP, and history of plenty of flights, and people who have flown on the flights saying they have flown on them.

They claim there are millions of passangers did it. It is clear you need more than some people claim it. And all of them are globularists. In recent world, there are about 10% of world/australian peopla are believing the earth is flat. According to this statistics, 100 000 flat earther Aussie had to travel that path. How many we can count any of them? Zero. This is an evidence that claims are fake, and fabricated like everything about you are.

There is no reason at all to think this flight is fake.

There is no reason at all to think this flight is real.

So can you explain it on a FE?

Do you want I explain something not exist? Are you serious?

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No, instead you appeal to an absence of a very specific type of evidence you are yet to provide for ALL the flights that you claim are real.

Do you have a better idea instead?

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This one tiny, insignificant piece of evidence not existing doesn't magically mean the flight doesn't.

It proves it's not being magically exist also.

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Do you have any evidence at all that the flights have been faked? No.

Burden of proof is in your side. I have not to prove everything in your imagination world, considering you are already a denier of everything; JackDenier.

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And the other evidence you choose to ignore, such as flight tracker data, such as that provided by the OP, and history of plenty of flights, and people who have flown on the flights saying they have flown on them.

They claim there are millions of passangers did it. It is clear you need more than some people claim it. And all of them are globularists. In recent world, there are about 10% of world/australian peopla are believing the earth is flat. According to this statistics, 100 000 flat earther Aussie had to travel that path. How many we can count any of them? Zero. This is an evidence that claims are fake, and fabricated like everything about you are.

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There is no reason at all to think this flight is fake.

There is no reason at all to think this flight is real.

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So can you explain it on a FE?

Do you want I explain something not exist? Are you serious?

Does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Burden of proof is in your side.

We have been over this before. The burden of proving this flight exists has been met.
There is plenty of evidence showing it exists.

As such, the burden rests entirely upon you to show this flight doesn't exist, especially as you are claiming to have proven it doesn't.

In recent world, there are about 10% of world/australian peopla are believing the earth is flat. According to this statistics, 100 000 flat earther Aussie had to travel that path. How many we can count any of them?

That isn't how statistics work.

Just because 10% of people believe X, doesn't mean that 10% of the people that flew on a set of flights believe X.
There doesn't need to have been a single flat Earther on one of those flights.

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That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

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That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

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That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

I am far to Australia.

The investment required to get to Australia is insignificant compared to the amount of money you could make; if your wild claims were true.

I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that.

Perhaps because they don't believe your claims and instead realise that if they did purchase a ticket they could either go on the flight or just lose their money.

People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

But you outright rejecting reality and insulting anyone who doesn't agree with you is your problem.

Again, where is any evidence at all that this flight is fake?
Again, if you wish to appeal to the lack of a real-time full flight video, then you must first provide one for every other flight in existence.

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That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here. There is not a suspect about it whether or not real.

Whenever aircraft companies cancel flight, then pays to passangers money back. It sometimes equal amont of payed money, sometimes two times or more. I heard they pays money back two times more and gives another ticket sometimes. It is up to reason of why that flight cancel.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights, firm is paying money back and giving another ticket; possible indirect flights. Because no way else. Since the company already gets the money to pay for this job from NASA or another institution, it's okay. win win win.

The investment required to get to Australia is insignificant compared to the amount of money you could make; if your wild claims were true.

Here is Turkey and we are under a great money crise here, perhaps one of the biggest on human history. Don't you listen Trump and other politics when they talk about Turkish economy? If I had enough money to go there, I am sure Erdogan would find a way to take it back from me.

Perhaps because they don't believe your claims and instead realise that if they did purchase a ticket they could either go on the flight or just lose their money.

Why don't you be one of them?

But you outright rejecting reality and insulting anyone who doesn't agree with you is your problem.

Guess you are miss pointing something here. rejecting reality and insulting anyone who doesn't agree with you is your well known characteristic behave that everyone knows well.

Again, where is any evidence at all that this flight is fake?

Burden of proof is in your side. There is no evidence for its being real.

Again, if you wish to appeal to the lack of a real-time full flight video, then you must first provide one for every other flight in existence.

Nope. It is only required for flights which discussable or have doubted. Mostly, long way flights are suspicious and I have videos about most of them. Whichever I don't have, I reject it until they have doubt.

Did you ever see somebody claim Istanbul to Paris flights are fake? Nope. Who cares it? Nobody. Because there are many online flight videos from London to Istanbul. Paris is close to London. Hence, it is not required.

If you find a full flight video from Melbourne instead to Buenos Aires instead , it will be a convincible argument. Get it? I don't think so.

Because if you was get it, you would get that if millions of passangers had wanted to go Santiago, most of them would prefered to gone one hour more and gone to Buenos Aires, that center of many things, but not Santiago. You can't get this simple logic, because you have not it at all.

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That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here. There is not a suspect about it whether or not real.

Sure it is. Why wouldn't it be suspect as there is no unedited full length video of an Istanbul to Paris flight? And that is the one criteria you use to to determine whether a flight is real or not. So without an unedited full length video of an Istanbul to Paris flight, according to you, it is fake and does not exist. Correct?

Whenever aircraft companies cancel flight, then pays to passangers money back. It sometimes equal amont of payed money, sometimes two times or more. I heard they pays money back two times more and gives another ticket sometimes. It is up to reason of why that flight cancel.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights, firm is paying money back and giving another ticket; possible indirect flights. Because no way else. Since the company already gets the money to pay for this job from NASA or another institution, it's okay. win win win.

What's your evidence that they cancel or reroute these flights? How do you know that happens?

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Quote from: Stash on August 30, 2020, 10:22:24 AM

That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here. There is not a suspect about it whether or not real.

Sure it is. Why wouldn't it be suspect as there is no unedited full length video of an Istanbul to Paris flight? And that is the one criteria you use to to determine whether a flight is real or not. So without an unedited full length video of an Istanbul to Paris flight, according to you, it is fake and does not exist. Correct?

Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 11:33:18 PM

Whenever aircraft companies cancel flight, then pays to passangers money back. It sometimes equal amont of payed money, sometimes two times or more. I heard they pays money back two times more and gives another ticket sometimes. It is up to reason of why that flight cancel.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights, firm is paying money back and giving another ticket; possible indirect flights. Because no way else. Since the company already gets the money to pay for this job from NASA or another institution, it's okay. win win win.

What's your evidence that they cancel or reroute these flights? How do you know that happens?

There are enough reliable flights connecting the city of Paris and Istanbul. Therefore, there is no need to confirm this flight separately. If it was necessary between all the cities likewise you said, 100x100 = 10 000 full time flight videos would be required for 100 cities on the map. It's not necessary. It have be to be stupid to do that.

I told there is no way but they cancel or reroute these flights. It would be silly for an Australian to take a flight like this. Nobody does that. Ha, why? You will  claiming to fly to prove the global map is correct, you will not have proof, and you will show the tickets and expect us to believe it. No mister, There will be no such thing. You can either prove this flight or don't expect us to accept this nonsense. Accepting the existence of this flight requires being extra ultra-retarded.

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here.

Do you have a real time full length video of it?
If not, then you must think it is fake to be consistent.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights

Or just flying them like the countless flights which have flown.

Burden of proof is in your side. There is no evidence for its being real.

Again, the burden has been met. You have been provided with plenty of evidence, including that in the OP.

Stop acting like none has been provided.
The burden rests entirely upon you, for claiming the flight is fake in spite of all the evidence.

Nope. It is only required for flights which discussable or have doubted.

Or to put that honestly, it is only an excuse you bring up when the flights show you to be wrong.

If it was necessary between all the cities likewise you said, 100x100 = 10 000 full time flight videos would be required for 100 cities on the map. It's not necessary. It have be to be stupid to do that.

That is the point.
You are using an extremely stupid standard of evidence and an extremely dishonest double standard.

No one in their right mind would honestly claim a flight is fake based solely upon the lack of a real time full length video.
You just bring it up to try to dismiss flights that show you to be wrong.

If you want to honestly use that as your standard, you need to obtain them for ALL flights you use.

Do you have a real time full length video of it?

I have already replied that question.

If not, then you must think it is fake to be consistent.

You RE'rs have a problem of not reading. I have already explained it why not required. No, I must not do something like that. Because there are many flights verify this flight, although it is not exist. I have London to Istanbul, Istanbul to Athens, Athens to Paris, Paris to London flights,... and so on. They are enough to verify. I have offered something, but you literally missed it because you were watching the clouds when I told it; if you show me a full flight from Melbourn to Santiago, or Brisbane to Buenos Aires, I can take them in the account. But you have none of them.

Because nobody in Australia is interested to travel Santiago, nor Buenos Aires, the capital of the world fun.

Or just flying them like the countless flights which have flown.

unfounded claims.

Again, the burden has been met. You have been provided with plenty of evidence, including that in the OP.

Nope. Cut lying. Zero evidence provided. Tickets are not evidence and you have nothing else. If you have, so where is it? Is it an invisible evidence everybody see but me?

Stop acting like none has been provided.

Because none has been provided.

The burden rests entirely upon you, for claiming the flight is fake in spite of all the evidence.

Since there is no evidence, burden of proof still upon you.

Or to put that honestly, it is only an excuse you bring up when the flights show you to be wrong.

Guess this is not the case here. I can take it the consideration every verified flight. This is simply fake and hence ignored.

You are using an extremely stupid standard of evidence and an extremely dishonest double standard.

And then you are claiming people are insulting you because you don't agree their lies, right? Look who does it!

But you outright rejecting reality and insulting anyone who doesn't agree with you is your problem.

Then, when admins ban you, you start crying:

Why was I banned with the pathetic reason of:
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trouble making, boring harassment, insults. Take your pick.

Maybe that reason isn't pathetic, but you are so, did you ever think of it, I mean, maybe you are doing a mistake somewhere, can't it be?

Again, where is any evidence at all that this flight is fake?

No evidence provided, again, again and again. There is still zero evidence but blabbing.

Again, if you wish to appeal to the lack of a real-time full flight video, then you must first provide one for every other flight in existence.

As I mentioned above, if the verification processes between nearby cities verify other cities, there is no need for a separate video.

You are an Australian but not interest to go to the Santiago, likewise rest of Australians. But if you interest to go to the most funny city in the world, Buenos Aires, and can take it to camera,  I will can take it in the consideration. Until that time, you are doing nothing but blabbing and insulting. This is not an argument here.

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Do you have a real time full length video of it?

I have already replied that question.

Only by avoiding it and dismissing the question.
I shall take that as a no.
That means you do not have a video of it.
Thus by your reasoning, in order to be honest and "rational", you must reject that flight as fake.
Otherwise you are applying an extremely dishonest double standard to dismiss the flights which show you to be wrong.

You RE'rs have a problem of not reading. I have already explained it why not required.

No, we have a problem with your double standards.
You have asserted why you believe it is not required. But that is applying an extremely dishonest double standard.
You should use the same standard of evidence for all flights.

That means if you are willing to accept so many flights based upon flight history data alone, you should do so for this flight as well.
That means if you want to reject it because there is not a video of it, you do that for ALL flights which you do not have a video for.

It is extremely dishonest to apply one standard of evidence to everything which agrees with you, but then apply a different standard to something that proves you wrong.

Pick the one standard and follow it.
Either provide such a video for every flight, or accept that this flight is real based upon the evidence.

Nope. Cut lying. Zero evidence provided. Tickets are not evidence and you have nothing else.

Follow your own advice.
The OP provided evidence, flight history.
The same kind of evidence you use for countless flights.
You have been provided with plenty of other evidence, evidence you happily accept for so many flights.
But you lie and claim there is none, all because this flight disproves your map, so you use whatever dishonest tactics you can to dismiss this flight to pretend your map is true.

Your actions also show that you know there is plenty of evidence.
In claiming to have disproven it you didn't say there is no evidence. Instead you just appealed to the flight video.
You have been provided with plenty of evidence, which you dismiss because it isn't a real-time full length flight video.

Once more, the burden of proof rests entirely upon you.

Do you have any evidence to show this flight is fake?
If not, can you explain how it works on your FE?

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Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 08:31:48 PM

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Quote from: wise on August 30, 2020, 10:13:47 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 30, 2020, 10:22:24 AM

That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here. There is not a suspect about it whether or not real.

Whenever aircraft companies cancel flight, then pays to passangers money back. It sometimes equal amont of payed money, sometimes two times or more. I heard they pays money back two times more and gives another ticket sometimes. It is up to reason of why that flight cancel.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights, firm is paying money back and giving another ticket; possible indirect flights. Because no way else. Since the company already gets the money to pay for this job from NASA or another institution, it's okay. win win win.

So just buy yourself ten tickets online, wait for them to cancel and give you back twice the money, buy another ten with the profits (keeping the double refund amount as income), and just do that forever. You can live off it.

Have you examined the airlines accounts and found where they are being refunded by someone like NASA, or did you just make that bit up?

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Quote from: Stash on August 31, 2020, 09:01:23 PM

Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 08:31:48 PM

Quote from: turtles on August 31, 2020, 02:39:55 PM

Quote from: wise on August 30, 2020, 10:13:47 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 30, 2020, 10:22:24 AM

That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here. There is not a suspect about it whether or not real.

Whenever aircraft companies cancel flight, then pays to passangers money back. It sometimes equal amont of payed money, sometimes two times or more. I heard they pays money back two times more and gives another ticket sometimes. It is up to reason of why that flight cancel.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights, firm is paying money back and giving another ticket; possible indirect flights. Because no way else. Since the company already gets the money to pay for this job from NASA or another institution, it's okay. win win win.

So just buy yourself ten tickets online, wait for them to cancel and give you back twice the money, buy another ten with the profits (keeping the double refund amount as income), and just do that forever. You can live off it.

Have you examined the airlines accounts and found where they are being refunded by someone like NASA, or did you just make that bit up?

You are not reading a few but asking so much.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=86933.msg2280088#msg2280088

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Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 11:33:18 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 31, 2020, 09:01:23 PM

Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 08:31:48 PM

Quote from: turtles on August 31, 2020, 02:39:55 PM

Quote from: wise on August 30, 2020, 10:13:47 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 30, 2020, 10:22:24 AM

That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here. There is not a suspect about it whether or not real.

Whenever aircraft companies cancel flight, then pays to passangers money back. It sometimes equal amont of payed money, sometimes two times or more. I heard they pays money back two times more and gives another ticket sometimes. It is up to reason of why that flight cancel.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights, firm is paying money back and giving another ticket; possible indirect flights. Because no way else. Since the company already gets the money to pay for this job from NASA or another institution, it's okay. win win win.

So just buy yourself ten tickets online, wait for them to cancel and give you back twice the money, buy another ten with the profits (keeping the double refund amount as income), and just do that forever. You can live off it.

Have you examined the airlines accounts and found where they are being refunded by someone like NASA, or did you just make that bit up?

You are not reading a few but asking so much.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=86933.msg2280088#msg2280088

You just linked back further up the thread. I've read all that.

I will assume you are unable to answer the question about why you don't want free money by booking the tickets from Turkey.

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Quote from: turtles on September 02, 2020, 03:38:04 AM

Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 11:33:18 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 31, 2020, 09:01:23 PM

Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 08:31:48 PM

Quote from: turtles on August 31, 2020, 02:39:55 PM

Quote from: wise on August 30, 2020, 10:13:47 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 30, 2020, 10:22:24 AM

That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here. There is not a suspect about it whether or not real.

Whenever aircraft companies cancel flight, then pays to passangers money back. It sometimes equal amont of payed money, sometimes two times or more. I heard they pays money back two times more and gives another ticket sometimes. It is up to reason of why that flight cancel.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights, firm is paying money back and giving another ticket; possible indirect flights. Because no way else. Since the company already gets the money to pay for this job from NASA or another institution, it's okay. win win win.

So just buy yourself ten tickets online, wait for them to cancel and give you back twice the money, buy another ten with the profits (keeping the double refund amount as income), and just do that forever. You can live off it.

Have you examined the airlines accounts and found where they are being refunded by someone like NASA, or did you just make that bit up?

You are not reading a few but asking so much.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=86933.msg2280088#msg2280088

You just linked back further up the thread. I've read all that.

I will assume you are unable to answer the question about why you don't want free money by booking the tickets from Turkey.

You have assume wrong or deny what you read. I have told in that post, I have not money to buy a ticket from Turkey to Australia and Australia to Santiago. There is one of the biggest economic crise in human history here. What is hard to get it?

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Quote from: wise on September 02, 2020, 04:09:01 AM

Quote from: turtles on September 02, 2020, 03:38:04 AM

Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 11:33:18 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 31, 2020, 09:01:23 PM

Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 08:31:48 PM

Quote from: turtles on August 31, 2020, 02:39:55 PM

Quote from: wise on August 30, 2020, 10:13:47 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 30, 2020, 10:22:24 AM

That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here. There is not a suspect about it whether or not real.

Whenever aircraft companies cancel flight, then pays to passangers money back. It sometimes equal amont of payed money, sometimes two times or more. I heard they pays money back two times more and gives another ticket sometimes. It is up to reason of why that flight cancel.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights, firm is paying money back and giving another ticket; possible indirect flights. Because no way else. Since the company already gets the money to pay for this job from NASA or another institution, it's okay. win win win.

So just buy yourself ten tickets online, wait for them to cancel and give you back twice the money, buy another ten with the profits (keeping the double refund amount as income), and just do that forever. You can live off it.

Have you examined the airlines accounts and found where they are being refunded by someone like NASA, or did you just make that bit up?

You are not reading a few but asking so much.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=86933.msg2280088#msg2280088

You just linked back further up the thread. I've read all that.

I will assume you are unable to answer the question about why you don't want free money by booking the tickets from Turkey.

You have assume wrong or deny what you read. I have told in that post, I have not money to buy a ticket from Turkey to Australia and Australia to Santiago. There is one of the biggest economic crise in human history here. What is hard to get it?

You don't have to go to Australia. Just buy an "Australia to Santiago" ticket online. Borrow the one, you can repay it in a few days once you've received your refund from the airline. You'll then have enough from the double-refund to buy another ticket, get twice the money back again, buy two tickets and get a refund which is enough to buy another four tickets.....honestly, do I really have to explain how it works?

OK, economic crisis, but you've been going on about this for years, why didn't you do it before?

Something which makes no sense to me is this: Quantas started the QF27/QF28 Sydney - Santiago route in 2012. The inaugural flight was on 26th March I believe.

If this route doesn't exist, why bother with the whole charade? They could have just said, no, sorry Sydney - Santiago is not economically viable so we're not doing it. Instead they have to set up a special gate at each end, bring in a load of actors or victims or whatever, several times a week, allow people to buy tickets, pay someone to fake in-flight videos etc. etc. It would cost them a lot of money, not least in paying off people to keep it all quiet. Why bother, when the whole thing is completely unnecessary? What would it possibly achieve? It's not going to impress the vast majority of globe earth believers, who will never ever want to fly this route and is guaranteed to be ignored by flat earthers, so just what is the point?

It is the same issue as so many other areas.
Why would NASA fake Earth being round and fake satellites and so on, spending loads of money on faking it, for what?

There is no motive at all.
If Earth really was flat, all that accomplishes is a massive waste of time, money and resources.
So much would be wasted on faking it all.

Quote from: wise on September 02, 2020, 05:58:44 AM

Quote from: turtles on September 02, 2020, 05:41:12 AM

Quote from: wise on September 02, 2020, 04:09:01 AM

Quote from: turtles on September 02, 2020, 03:38:04 AM

Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 11:33:18 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 31, 2020, 09:01:23 PM

Quote from: wise on August 31, 2020, 08:31:48 PM

Quote from: turtles on August 31, 2020, 02:39:55 PM

Quote from: wise on August 30, 2020, 10:13:47 PM

Quote from: Stash on August 30, 2020, 10:22:24 AM

That is an incorrect statement. It has not been proven to your satisfaction using your personal criteria of needing an unedited full-length video of an entire flight. But aside from your personal need, there is plenty of evidence that the flights do exist from purchasable ticketing to flight tracking systems readily available to anyone with internet access. Plus videos of people that have taken said flights though not a full 12 hour unedited view.

Nope. It is a correct statement. Your claiming it does not make it magically proven considering online tickets. We know aircraft companies sell them and cancel free of charge when required and pays two times more money to passangers.

So why aren't you a millionaire? Just keep buying tickets, cancelling and getting twice as much money back.

I am far to Australia. If I was living in Australia I would do something better. I have suggest something like it to people live in Australia, but they did not do that. I had better ideas for example you can make a traditional deal with somebody in Santiago and loose millions of dollars because that flight will definitely will be cancelled. It gives you a right to sue the compain and get millions of dollars compansation. But this only happens in Australia. People of Australia being idiot isn't my problem.

What's your evidence that the aircraft companies cancel those flights and pay two times the money to the passengers?

And, does a flight from Istanbul to Paris exist? Is it real or fake?

Istanbul to Paris flight isn't the case here. There is not a suspect about it whether or not real.

Whenever aircraft companies cancel flight, then pays to passangers money back. It sometimes equal amont of payed money, sometimes two times or more. I heard they pays money back two times more and gives another ticket sometimes. It is up to reason of why that flight cancel.

Since no way but canceling Santiago flights, firm is paying money back and giving another ticket; possible indirect flights. Because no way else. Since the company already gets the money to pay for this job from NASA or another institution, it's okay. win win win.

So just buy yourself ten tickets online, wait for them to cancel and give you back twice the money, buy another ten with the profits (keeping the double refund amount as income), and just do that forever. You can live off it.

Have you examined the airlines accounts and found where they are being refunded by someone like NASA, or did you just make that bit up?

You are not reading a few but asking so much.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=86933.msg2280088#msg2280088

You just linked back further up the thread. I've read all that.

I will assume you are unable to answer the question about why you don't want free money by booking the tickets from Turkey.

You have assume wrong or deny what you read. I have told in that post, I have not money to buy a ticket from Turkey to Australia and Australia to Santiago. There is one of the biggest economic crise in human history here. What is hard to get it?

You don't have to go to Australia. Just buy an "Australia to Santiago" ticket online. Borrow the one, you can repay it in a few days once you've received your refund from the airline. You'll then have enough from the double-refund to buy another ticket, get twice the money back again, buy two tickets and get a refund which is enough to buy another four tickets.....honestly, do I really have to explain how it works?

OK, economic crisis, but you've been going on about this for years, why didn't you do it before?

Again, again, and again an imperceptiveness about what I told. If I have no money to buy a ticket so how can I buy a ticket online? When I try to buy an online ticket is it turn to free of charge? How comedy.

Turkey has long been an economic crisis, it's before me making this proposal.

Something which makes no sense to me is this: Quantas started the QF27/QF28 Sydney - Santiago route in 2012. The inaugural flight was on 26th March I believe.

If this route doesn't exist, why bother with the whole charade? They could have just said, no, sorry Sydney - Santiago is not economically viable so we're not doing it. Instead they have to set up a special gate at each end, bring in a load of actors or victims or whatever, several times a week, allow people to buy tickets, pay someone to fake in-flight videos etc. etc. It would cost them a lot of money, not least in paying off people to keep it all quiet. Why bother, when the whole thing is completely unnecessary? What would it possibly achieve? It's not going to impress the vast majority of globe earth believers, who will never ever want to fly this route and is guaranteed to be ignored by flat earthers, so just what is the point?

Why not do it if it's 10% profit after taking all of its expenses? This is any job too. They are nothing with FE'rs, but their payers are.

Look here, why jackblack is and rabinoz was fighting till he death in order to unnecessary effort to fight against FE'rs? Is it economic, or hobby? Nope. It causes stress and make somebody death ,n unexpected time. Because, If you pay somebody enough, he even defends Martians against human beings.

It is the same issue as so many other areas.
Why would NASA fake Earth being round and fake satellites and so on, spending loads of money on faking it, for what?

There is no motive at all.
If Earth really was flat, all that accomplishes is a massive waste of time, money and resources.
So much would be wasted on faking it all.

Nope. Money back is good. If you are gaining 20 billions of dollars but not going anywhere like Mars, why do not pay half of it to convince others you actually did it? 20 billions dollar is a good money deserves many things. With other gains it arrives 100-300 billions dollars or more considering global operations.

In this case, they can even pay 90.000 people like jackblack 20.000$ per month to defend their lies. Why does not Jackblack accept their offer? Tell me, can you deny their offer, and why? Literally you can't tell why you deny it, because you can not.

Again, again, and again an imperceptiveness about what I told. If I have no money to buy a ticket so how can I buy a ticket online? When I try to buy an online ticket is it turn to free of charge? How comedy.

You could just use a credit card.
Or can't you get them anymore?

Why not do it if it's 10% profit after taking all of its expenses?

It is only profit if it actually flies and carries paying passengers.
If it is all fake and they refund twice the ticket price they may as well just burn their money.

Look here, why jackblack is and rabinoz was fighting till he death in order to unnecessary effort to fight against FE'rs?

Because I care about the truth, and your outright rejection of reality and general anti-science attitude is dangerous and is causing harm to humanity.

Nope. Money back is good. If you are gaining 20 billions of dollars but not going anywhere like Mars, why do not pay half of it to convince others you actually did it? 20 billions dollar is a good money deserves many things. With other gains it arrives 100-300 billions dollars or more considering global operations.

Except they aren't just spending half of it.
They are spending basically all of it on what you dismiss as a show for the public, then you have them spending loads more on faking what is meant to be coming back from space, and then have them spending even more on paying people off.

That is not making a profit. That is losing loads of money.

What would make far more sense if they wanted money is to just use the black budget.

So again, the motive is quite clearly not money.

And none of that provides an actual motive to claim Earth is round.
Even if one did want to believe that somehow even with needing to spend loads more money they somehow make a profit, why does Earth need to be round for that? Why couldn't they do the same saying that Earth is flat?

Again, there is no motive.

In this case, they can even pay 90.000 people like jackblack 20.000$ per month to defend their lies. Why does not Jackblack accept their offer?

Because back in reality that offer doesn't exist.
They don't really care about FEers denying Earth being round or denying space exists.
They have far more important things to focus their very limited resources on.

You could just use a credit card.

I have not a credit card.

Or can't you get them anymore?

I did not take a credit card so far because of principle.

It is only profit if it actually flies and carries paying passengers.

Nope. If somebody else buy all the tickets, quarter of passangers buy a ticket, pays them two times more to take it back and they still have a 50% profit.

If it is all fake and they refund twice the ticket price they may as well just burn their money.

Not their money, NASA money. Who care American taxpayers? Nobody, even our American management squad does not care. 

Because I care about the truth, and your outright rejection of reality and general anti-science attitude is dangerous and is causing harm to humanity.

In order to claim my anti-(supposedly fake) science behave is dangereous and harming humanity, you need to prove it by examples first. If you really want to prevent people get harm, you need to stop RE'rs. Because they have killed a sailor in this forum by missinformation him about the distance between Australia and South America. This is not your reason, I know, you know, we know, everybody know. Lying is not serving anything but reducing your credit points.

Except they aren't just spending half of it.
They are spending basically all of it on what you dismiss as a show for the public, then you have them spending loads more on faking what is meant to be coming back from space, and then have them spending even more on paying people off.

That is not making a profit. That is losing loads of money.

What would make far more sense if they wanted money is to just use the black budget.

So again, the motive is quite clearly not money.

And none of that provides an actual motive to claim Earth is round.
Even if one did want to believe that somehow even with needing to spend loads more money they somehow make a profit, why does Earth need to be round for that? Why couldn't they do the same saying that Earth is flat?

Again, there is no motive.

Money is a good motive. Is not it motiving you?

Because back in reality that offer doesn't exist.
They don't really care about FEers denying Earth being round or denying space exists.
They have far more important things to focus their very limited resources on.

I am not asking whether or not the offer exist. I am asking if they offer you defend their lies by paying you 20.000$ per month do you whether or not accept it?