Does the picture of universe (Cosmology) same in all the religion of Abraham?

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According to The Quran. The earth is stationary while the sun moves forward in space. Most celebrity Islamic scholars stretch Quran verses towards the solar system despite knowing the following unless I interpreted them wrongly.

https://quran.com/36/38-48?translations=20
https://quran.com/39/5
https://quran.com/55/5
https://quran.com/91

Similarly - “The angel Gabriel tells Muhammad (pbuh) that the sun moves forward 500 years* (The distance covered by a horse in their point of view) from the time Muhammad (pbuh) says “No” until the time he says “Yes” one after another”.
*(Another source says  Farsakhs ,1 Farsakh = c. 6 km)

Further -  There are seven earths and seven skies as per The Quran,.
https://quran.com/65/12
https://quran.com/41/12-22?translations=20

Furthermore -  "The Islamic picture of the universe in a nutshell - I'm not sure if muslim scholars certify it or not but "Ibn al-Wardī (d. 861/1457) sums up that the earth is upon water; the water—upon the rock; the rock—on the back of the bull; the bull—on a sandhill; the sandhill—on the whale/fish; the fish—upon a futile wind; the wind—on a veil of darkness and the darkness—on the humid ground. As to what is beneath the darkness, the knowledge of human kind fails. “Nobody knows it but God, who is the creator of heavens and earths" – Extracted from the PhD THESIS Submitted by KRISTINE CHALYAN-DAFFNER.

In addition - According Sahi Muslim (The book of Faith)# 0297
https://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=1&translator=2&start=290 - -
Pls read 0297
"It is narrated on the authority of Abu Dharr that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) one day said: Do you know where the sun goes? They replied: Allah and His Apostle know best. He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Verily it (the sun) glides till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it falls prostrate and remains there until it is asked: Rise up and go to the place whence you came, and it goes back and continues emerging out from its rising place and then glides till it reaches its place of rest under the Throne and falls prostrate and remains in that state until it is asked: Rise up and return to the place whence you came, and it returns and emerges out from it rising place and the it glides (in such a normal way) that the people do not discern anything ( unusual in it) till it reaches its resting place under the Throne. Then it would be said to it: Rise up and emerge out from the place of your setting, and it will rise from the place of its setting. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said. Do you know when it would happen? It would happen at the time when faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from the faith".
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According to claims like this, people couild read in Quran about America back in 1389...

What Quran says about measuring the curve directly?
By Al-Biruni, for example?
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
The main goal in all that is simplicity.

According to claims like this, people couild read in Quran about America back in 1389...

What Quran says about measuring the curve directly?
By Al-Biruni, for example?
It is said – Quran is the book of signs, not science. I’m not here to defend none of the Abrahamic religions due to lack of knowledge but to share the information, which may or may not be useful for creative minded people. They might not even know about it.

BTW, which method do you use for measuring the curve (both known and unknown) directly?

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Macarios

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According to claims like this, people couild read in Quran about America back in 1389...

What Quran says about measuring the curve directly?
By Al-Biruni, for example?
It is said – Quran is the book of signs, not science. I’m not here to defend none of the Abrahamic religions due to lack of knowledge but to share the information, which may or may not be useful for creative minded people. They might not even know about it.

BTW, which method do you use for measuring the curve (both known and unknown) directly?

The Eratosthenes method is based on angles of local horizontals at known distances against incoming sun rays.
(He was pretty accurate.)
The Al-Biruni method is based on Horizon Dip at known altitude.
(He was even more accurate.)
The Expedition to Peru was based on local horizontals (or was it verticals?) against distant stars.
(Even more accurate than Biruni.)
Couple of years go I measured angle between verticals at known distance using sextant. It was cheap on eBay.
(Not as accurate as any of them, but enough for my own use.)
I also measured Lunar parallax with it.
(Also not as accurate as them. Yet again, the sextant was cheap. :D )
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
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I wonder if 7 heavens means 7 universes.
Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). Al-Baqara (The Cow) - 2:18




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7 nested simulations.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1

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According to claims like this, people couild read in Quran about America back in 1389...

What Quran says about measuring the curve directly?
By Al-Biruni, for example?
Biruni is not an islamic scholar. Biruni has nothing with Quran! He is a random man like you, talking Persian. The only similarity him and Quran is both languages have scratchy writing style and make you confuse whether or not it belongs to an explanation about quran. They are not. His talkings and your talkings are not so different other than yours; mean nothing.

Islamic religional history science continues with rumors one after another. As above, one transfers from another, he transfers from another, ... so on. There are certain books accepted by all Islamic scholars. And topics are discussed by referring to the names in these books. Biruni's name is not mentioned in these books. There is no such Islamic character has a name of Biruni. Perhaps he was a random Persian drawn the ball his children were playing, and western / atheist media has used it in order to defend he were a globularist. There were not a cryptology and nobody can prove the handwritings whether or not belong him.

There is nothing prevent us to believe everything about him are rumors and fraud.

Quran does not measure the curve, because likewise bible and other book, it offers its being flat. Why while the earth was flat quran tries to measure it as if a curve? Quran describes the earth like a carpet. I don't remember its having a dimension measurement on that, about the measures of flat earth, but I can investigate if a request comes.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1

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The Eratosthenes method is based on angles of local horizontals at known distances against incoming sun rays.
(He was pretty accurate.)
The Al-Biruni method is based on Horizon Dip at known altitude.
(He was even more accurate.)
The Expedition to Peru was based on local horizontals (or was it verticals?) against distant stars.
(Even more accurate than Biruni.)
The base of the triangle is considered a straight line (flat earth) despite knowing in advance that the earth is round (taken for granted) in all above. Anyway, the formula of curvature correction Cc is shown in the following diagram [source is internet].

The Cc is 0.08cm/km, 8m/10,000km. Since we live in modern world therefore consider the right angled triangle of OAC of above diagram. Let there is
1- An observer X at A and
2- *LCD TV screen (if perfectly levelled on ground) at C.
* it can be anything for observation say stick or pole

The distance  between the X and the LCD screen is “d”. X watches the foregoing LCD screen via binocular or ptz camera.
Question: Would X see the LCD screen tilted similar to Cc line (BC) in the diagram if the d is 1km or > 1km?

I stumble upon the following. If someone is interested. Pages of interest are from 210 to 243.
http://archiv.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/volltextserver/17711/1/Chalyan-Daffner.pdf
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According to claims like this, people couild read in Quran about America back in 1389...

What Quran says about measuring the curve directly?
By Al-Biruni, for example?
It is said – Quran is the book of signs, not science. I’m not here to defend none of the Abrahamic religions due to lack of knowledge but to share the information, which may or may not be useful for creative minded people. They might not even know about it.

BTW, which method do you use for measuring the curve (both known and unknown) directly?

Macarios has a bunch of good techniques.

Another we can use in the modern age is measuring it by taking a picture of the Earth from a million miles away and doing some simple math on the image knowing the distance.  That's about as direct as it gets, looking right at the curve and measuring it.

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acarios has a bunch of good techniques.

Another we can use in the modern age is measuring it by taking a picture of the Earth from a million miles away and doing some simple math on the image knowing the distance.  That's about as direct as it gets, looking right at the curve and measuring it.
That would be great to keep flat earthers quiet but for this we have to be super super ultra modern.

ISS orbits at 350 km (circa) above the Earth. Currently, this is the maximum reachable height for human. You may not agree but we have never crossed that limit. That’s why some doubt that the earth is round.
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Currently, this is the maximum reachable height for human. You may not agree but we have never crossed that limit

No I don't agree so what makes you think you are right about that?

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Question: Would X see the LCD screen tilted similar to Cc line (BC) in the diagram if the d is 1km or > 1km?
No. At least not in any perceptible way.

Firstly, at 1 km the angle is only 0.009 degrees.
Even if you went all the way to 100 km, that is still only 0.9 degrees.
That angle would be barely noticeable if it was side on.

But an angle that is head on is quite difficult to see, even when it is much larger.
That is because when you idealise it to 2D, the angle vanishes.

So no, you wont see it.

ISS orbits at 350 km (circa) above the Earth. Currently, this is the maximum reachable height for human. You may not agree but we have never crossed that limit. That’s why some doubt that the earth is round.
So people doubt that Earth is round because they outright reject reality?

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acarios has a bunch of good techniques.

Another we can use in the modern age is measuring it by taking a picture of the Earth from a million miles away and doing some simple math on the image knowing the distance.  That's about as direct as it gets, looking right at the curve and measuring it.
That would be great to keep flat earthers quiet but for this we have to be super super ultra modern.

ISS orbits at 350 km (circa) above the Earth. Currently, this is the maximum reachable height for human. You may not agree but we have never crossed that limit. That’s why some doubt that the earth is round.

Humans have been to the Moon which is 384,400 km away, much further than the 350 km of the ISS and have seen the entire curve of the Earth from that distance and many points in between.

The curve of the Earth is visible from the lower orbit of the ISS, an astronaut could measure the curve directly there as well right now.

There are many ways to directly measure it in modern times. All of these have to be wrong for the Earth to be flat.

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Humans have been to the Moon which is 384,400 km away, much further than the 350 km of the ISS and have seen the entire curve of the Earth from that distance and many points in between.
The moon landing was actually never happened. How do you know the moon is 384,400 km away from the earth?

We still don’t know if the earth is round or flat due to the lack of solid evidence.

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So no, you wont see it.
If a shadow of small length can be measured then can’t a PTZ camera (precise and quite clear) detect that small inclination? just wondering.

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How do you know the moon is 384,400 km away from the earth?

By measuring lunar parallax which is easy. This is a project any amateur astronomer can do for themselves.  We can image the Moon from two separate locations on Earth and then measure the observed difference in position against the background stars.   

By bouncing radiowaves off it from any radio telescope aiming at it and timing the return echo.   Radiowaves are a form of EMR and therefore travel at the speed of light.

By aiming a laser at the Moon as and using the prismatic mirrors that were placed there during one of the Moon landings.   Astronomers at the MacDonald observatory ran a program of measurements for many years to determine that the Moon is receding from us at a rate of a few cm per year.  The mirrors themselves were specially designed for the purpose.  I visited the observatory myself back in 1989 during the Texas Star Party which is held nearby.   The Moon was visible in the sky at the time and so we could watch the measurement being done in front of us.  A fascinating demonstration and we established the exact distance of the Moon within a few minutes once the telescope and laser were locked onto the right part of the Moons surface.

That's how we know.
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The moon landing was actually never happened.
All the available evidence indicates it did happen.
There is literally nothing credible which indicates it did not happen.

How do you know the moon is 384,400 km away from the earth?
You can either measure the parallax of the moon from distant regions on Earth, or use direct laser ranging experiments.

We still don’t know if the earth is round or flat due to the lack of solid evidence.
No, there is plentiful solid evidence which clearly shows Earth is round.
FEers just choose to deny this evidence, with no rational justification at all.


If a shadow of small length can be measured then can’t a PTZ camera (precise and quite clear) detect that small inclination? just wondering.
Again, the big issue is the directionality of it.
The only way to measure such an inclination is by looking at miniscule difference in the width of the object as you go from the bottom to the top, or the distance. The change due to the tilt is minuscule for both.

You cannot directly see it.

For example, for an object 500 m high, 100 km away, the base is 100 km away.
The top, assuming it is parallel to an object which is vertical for you is an additional 1.25 m away from you. That is roughly 1 part in 80 000.
That difference in distance is negligible.
If instead of being parallel to it, it was tilted away due to the curvature of Earth then it would be pointing at an angle of roughly 0.9 degrees, it would be roughly an extra 9 m away.
That is still roughly 1 part in 10 000.
Again, you are not going to see that.

If you think it should be possible clearly explain what you think would work to measure such an inclination, noting that it is pointing away from you.

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According to claims like this, people couild read in Quran about America back in 1389...

What Quran says about measuring the curve directly?
By Al-Biruni, for example?
Biruni is not an islamic scholar. Biruni has nothing with Quran! He is a random man like you, talking Persian. The only similarity him and Quran is both languages have scratchy writing style and make you confuse whether or not it belongs to an explanation about quran. They are not. His talkings and your talkings are not so different other than yours; mean nothing.

Islamic religional history science continues with rumors one after another. As above, one transfers from another, he transfers from another, ... so on. There are certain books accepted by all Islamic scholars. And topics are discussed by referring to the names in these books. Biruni's name is not mentioned in these books. There is no such Islamic character has a name of Biruni. Perhaps he was a random Persian drawn the ball his children were playing, and western / atheist media has used it in order to defend he were a globularist. There were not a cryptology and nobody can prove the handwritings whether or not belong him.

There is nothing prevent us to believe everything about him are rumors and fraud.

Quran does not measure the curve, because likewise bible and other book, it offers its being flat. Why while the earth was flat quran tries to measure it as if a curve? Quran describes the earth like a carpet. I don't remember its having a dimension measurement on that, about the measures of flat earth, but I can investigate if a request comes.

"Abu Rayhan al-Biruni (973 – after 1050) was an Iranian scholar and polymath during the Islamic Golden Age."
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"Bīrūnī is one of the most important Muslim authorities on the history of religion.
Al-Biruni was a pioneer in the study of comparative religion. He studied Zoroastrianism,
Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, and other religions."
(from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Biruni)

Trying to discredit him for the purpose of some local discussion will create more problems than solutions.

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Quran descripbes Earth "spread like a carpet" (in Western culture it would be table instead), it doesn't say it is flat like it.
God spread it in front of people so they take what they want.

Quran also describes Earth as an Ostrich Egg.
I don't have to fight about anything.
These things are not about me.
When one points facts out, they speak for themselves.
The main goal in all that is simplicity.

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How do you know the moon is 384,400 km away from the earth?
By measuring lunar parallax which is easy.
You can either measure the parallax of the moon from distant regions on Earth, or use direct laser ranging experiments.
It might be authentic but how do they choose the ideal target on the irregular surface of the moon without inspecting it for reflection of light and the adjustment of moon earth speed in their respective orbits for the reflected signal towards the source.
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The moon landing was actually never happened.
All the available evidence indicates it did happen.
For Example
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There is literally nothing credible which indicates it did not happen.
Would you belive if satisfy with argument.
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If you think it should be possible clearly explain what you think would work to measure such an inclination, noting that it is pointing away from you.
how about by calculating the height of stick with the help measuring base of triangle and the angle of elevation of stick. 
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Quran descripbes Earth "spread like a carpet" (in Western culture it would be table instead), it doesn't say it is flat like it.
God spread it in front of people so they take what they want.

Quran also describes Earth as an Ostrich Egg
https://answeringislam.org/Quran/Science/earth_flat.html

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It might be authentic but how do they choose the ideal target on the irregular surface of the moon without inspecting it for reflection of light and the adjustment of moon earth speed in their respective orbits for the reflected signal towards the source.

They reflect laser light off specially placed prismatic mirrors that were placed on the Moons surface.  Do you know how long it takes a light beam to reach the Moon and back again? 

The Moon is our nearest neighbour in space. We can work out its distance to a high level of accuracy using a variety of different methods.  It really isn't that hard.  And since all all of those methods result in the same answer we can be more than pretty certain that we have the actual figure. 
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Humans have been to the Moon which is 384,400 km away, much further than the 350 km of the ISS and have seen the entire curve of the Earth from that distance and many points in between.
The moon landing was actually never happened. How do you know the moon is 384,400 km away from the earth?

We still don’t know if the earth is round or flat due to the lack of solid evidence.

Yes, we know it's round due to overwhelming evidence.

Well if you're going to claim the moon landing didn't happen, start a moon landing hoax discussion and debate it.

If your answer to any question is it's all fake and part of "The Conspiracy" then there isn't any point to debating anything other than that. If you are going to throw out hundreds of years of science and 50 years of manned spaceflight then just start with that.

Why ask questions about things when you already know you're going to just disregard any evidence because you believe the world is a lie?

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It might be authentic but how do they choose the ideal target on the irregular surface of the moon without inspecting it for reflection of light and the adjustment of moon earth speed in their respective orbits for the reflected signal towards the source.
Due to signal divergence due to the limits of resolution and how retro-reflectors work.
None of that is needed.

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The moon landing was actually never happened.
All the available evidence indicates it did happen.
For Example
For example, the video footage of it happening. Footage which went out live.
The numerous photos from the moon during the landing.
The retroreflectors placed on the moon which allow you to bounce a signal off it.

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There is literally nothing credible which indicates it did not happen.
Would you belive if satisfy with argument.
Go ahead and try.

how about by calculating the height of stick with the help measuring base of triangle and the angle of elevation of stick.
How?
The base is obscured by the curvature of Earth.
All you would be able to do with an idea like that is to measure the angle to the top.
And that doesn't tell you that it is leaning away, just that it is lower.

Quran also describes Earth as an Ostrich Egg.
That is an outright lie promoted by dishonest Islamic apologist to try to con people into Islam by pretending it has divine knowledge.
It is based upon an intentional mistranslation.
The Quran, when read in context, clearly indicates that Earth is flat, not a sphere.

And it also is typically backed up by quite dishonest imagery.
An egg is an asymmetric prolate spheroid.
Earth is an oblate spheroid.
Saying Earth is egg-shaped is less correct than saying it is a perfect sphere.


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The moon landing was actually never happened. How do you know the moon is 384,400 km away from the earth?

I have given you various methods by which we have measured the true distance of the Moon.  FE Wiki simply states that the Moon is 'about 3000 miles above the Earth' without giving you the slightest indication of how this figure was arrived at.  So how to you know that is correct instead?

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If the moon landings were real, then so was Leonov's spacewalk.

Right?

Conversely, if the Leonov spacewalk was faked, then so were the moon landings.

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For example, the video footage of it happening. Footage which went out live.
The numerous photos from the moon during the landing.
The retroreflectors placed on the moon which allow you to bounce a signal off it.
I have given you various methods by which we have measured the true distance of the Moon
It requires moon landing, which is still in question. Did we know the distance between the moon and earth before moon landing. No rush, we will get to the point of doubtfulness gradually.
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Quran also describes Earth as an Ostrich Egg.
That is an outright lie promoted by dishonest Islamic apologist to try to con people into Islam by pretending it has divine knowledge.
It is based upon an intentional mistranslation.
The Quran, when read in context, clearly indicates that Earth is flat, not a sphere.
The Quran is vague about the shape of the earth (IMPOV), however, it and aforesaid Hadiths clearly indicate that the sun is in motion while the earth is stationary – Majority Muslims of the modern world may deny this fact.
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And that doesn't tell you that it is leaning away, just that it is lower.
Doesn’t leaning away means the difference in heights

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If the moon landings were real, then so was Leonov's spacewalk.

Right?

Conversely, if the Leonov spacewalk was faked, then so were the moon landings.

That is incredibly bad logic.

If the soccer players get injured, the the image below is a real injury.

Conversely, if the injury below was faked, then so were all soccer injuries.


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The Leonov mission of 1965 was faked:

http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/histind/Fakes/Fakes.htm

http://www.vho.org/tr/2004/3/Kausch250-253.html

What sort of Soviet craft had orbited the earth then, if it was not a space ship with two cosmonauts on board? All stated contradictions and lies expose the secret of Leonov's 'space flight': What Soviet propaganda called 'Voskhod 2' was actually a tiny satellite that carried tape-recorded voices, heartbeats etc. and (faked) telemetric transmissions for a gigantic hoax!

'Four months of solid research interviewing experts in the fields of photo-optics, photo-chemistry and electro-optics, all of whom carefully studied the motion picture film and still photographs officially released by theSoviet Government ... (indicate them to be) double-printed .. The foreground (Leonov) was superimposed on the background (Earth below).The Russian film showed reflections from the glass plate under which a double plate is made ... Leonov was suspended from wire or cables ...In several episodes of the Russian film, light was reflected from a small portion of wire (or cable) attached to Leonov's space suit ...One camera angle was impossible of achievement. This showed Leonov crawling out of his hatch into space. It was a head on shot, so the camera would have had to have been located out in space beyond thespace ship.'

All of the NASA missions have been faked. They had to.

"The governmental institution known as NASA is a department of the Executive
Branch, ultimately answerable solely to the President of the United States, an Agency
created through the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958."

Original NASA Charter:

"Sec. 305... (i) The [National Aeronautics and Space] Administration shall be
considered a defense agency of the United States for the purpose of Chapter 17, Title 35 of the United States Code..."

"Sec. 205... (d) No [NASA] information which has been classified for reasons of national
security shall be included in any report made under this section [of the Act]..."


If the soccer players get injured, the the image below is a real injury.

Conversely, if the injury below was faked, then so were all soccer injuries.


Yes, we know you got a score of 50 on your SAT.

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Did we know the distance between the moon and earth before moon landing.

Just about.. the distance to the Moon was first measured in the 2nd century BC.  Why would we need someone to land on the Moon first in order to measure its distance?  Hold a finger in front of your face at arms length. Now look at it with alternating eyes while the other is closed.  Notice how your finger appears to shift in position in relation to the background.  We can do the same thing by comparing the Moons position w.r.t to the stars immediately around it from two widely distanced position on Earth.  With the equipment we have access to today it isn't hard.  Amateur astronomers can do it.

Then do some simple maths and hey presto you have the distance of the Moon.  You can then bounce a laser or some radiowaves of it (RADAR) and see how long the return signal takes.  Answer just under 2.5 seconds.  Divide the speed of light by the time taken and you get the Moons distance. Compare the different methods described and you will get the same answer. 

We haven't landed any one on any other planet on the solar system yet we know the distances to them as well.  Isn't science great!

It doesn't surprise me that flat Earth believers don't accept the Moon landings ever happened.  It's all part of the general mindset of conspiracy theorists unfortunately.
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If the soccer players get injured, the the image below is a real injury.

Conversely, if the injury below was faked, then so were all soccer injuries.


Yes, we know you got a score of 50 on your SAT.

So all you have as a response is insults?

You claimed if one thing was faked, all things must be faked.  I showed how bad that logic was. 

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Cut the crap.

The Leonov mission is the most famous space mission of them all. The same laws of physics apply to both the Leonov spacewalk and to the Apollo missions. The Soviets had to fake the Leonov outer space trip since they realized that those laws are useless. The Apollo missions were totally faked as well, since no new laws of physics were used/applied.

If Leonov couldn't make it to outer space, neither could the Americans.

Newton's law of gravity is worth shit in outer space.

Dark matter, dark energy, dark flow all defy Newton's law of gravity on a grand cosmic scale.


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Cut the crap.

The Leonov mission is the most famous space mission of them all. The same laws of physics apply to both the Leonov spacewalk and to the Apollo missions. The Soviets had to fake the Leonov outer space trip since they realized that those laws are useless. The Apollo missions were totally faked as well, since no new laws of physics were used/applied.

If Leonov couldn't make it to outer space, neither could the Americans.

Newton's law of gravity is worth shit in outer space.

Dark matter, dark energy, dark flow all defy Newton's law of gravity on a grand cosmic scale.

You are still using faulty logic, saying if one thing is fake then everything MUST be fake.  Bad argument.

Besides, that mission wasn't a fake, so you're wrong either way.