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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2130 on: February 21, 2024, 05:54:00 AM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 21, 2024, 01:43:28 AM

Yeah he sounds a right bastard, helping the homeless, affordable housing, pro same sex marriage, trying to end capital punishment, pro gun control, pro abortion, pro universal health care, bit of a wanker on labour rights, the environment and being a Getty frontman and god-botherer, but that’s (god bothering) obligatory in Gilead.
OH! Found it, allowed transgender inmates to be placed in prisons that correspond with their gender identity, retarded and wrong, but you’re right, he’s the devil and Trump is clearly the better option.

I have a friend who is a police officer.  Known him for a long time. His positions on most things were generally more to the left than mine.

2016 rolls around and he votes for Trump.   His reason was that he thought Trump was friendlier to cops and Obama and by extension Clinton were hostile to cops. Everything he believed in took a back seat to this one issue.

Now in 2024 we have situations like this https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/02/20/alabama-supreme-court-ivf-embryos/ which might find it's way to the Supreme Court. There's a strong possibility that if Trump is elected that we'll have a nationwide abortion ban. But this possibility just doesn't move the single issue voters.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2131 on: February 21, 2024, 06:52:18 AM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 21, 2024, 01:43:28 AM

Yeah he sounds a right bastard, helping the homeless, affordable housing, pro same sex marriage, trying to end capital punishment, pro gun control, pro abortion, pro universal health care, bit of a wanker on labour rights, the environment and being a Getty frontman and god-botherer, but that’s (god bothering) obligatory in Gilead.
OH! Found it, allowed transgender inmates to be placed in prisons that correspond with their gender identity, retarded and wrong, but you’re right, he’s the devil and Trump is clearly the better option.


No hes gonna be a do nothing.

He has a state the size of a european country.
Lets see him fix drugs and police and teachers issues before he tackles the countries issues.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2132 on: February 21, 2024, 07:20:08 AM »
Jura, try having a normal conversation, for a change. You will not convince me of your righteousness otherwise. If you want me to vote for someone, you should be able to say (with honesty) what's good about them. "helping the homeless" What, helping them to be even more homeless? What affordable housing?   

Slimy real estate investor.
Silicon Valley Bank.
Failing school system.
Rising homelessness.
Rising crime.
Locked down his state, but didn't lock down himself.
Remember that time he had all the homeless relocated so he could clean up San Francisco for Xi Jinping?
California budget deficit "balloons to $73 billion".
Yeah, fuck the women in Chowchilla, whether they want to be fucked or not.

Trump is the better option because he is old and will die soon. Same reason Biden is better than Newsom.

I am not a "single issue voter" but if they will lie about basic reality, what else will they lie about? If they are willing to harm women and children for political gain, they are willing to do anything for power. What kills me is that so many think it's worse that Trump is openly a piece of shit, like somehow it is better if they hide it behind a smarmy facade.

The Democrats have had 50 years to get abortion sorted out. I have come to the realization that most of them don't really care about it. They use it as bait. If you don't elect Democrats you will lose your right to choose! wtf have they been doing this whole time?


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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2133 on: February 21, 2024, 07:35:57 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on February 21, 2024, 07:20:08 AM

The Democrats have had 50 years to get abortion sorted out. I have come to the realization that most of them don't really care about it. They use it as bait. If you don't elect Democrats you will lose your right to choose! wtf have they been doing this whole time?

Well, they weren't wrong. In 2016 they didn't elect democrats and women lost their right to choose on a state level.  Not electing democrats in 2024 might cause women to lose their right to choose on a national level.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2134 on: February 21, 2024, 08:17:55 AM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 21, 2024, 01:43:28 AM

helping the homeless, affordable housing
Radical positions.  And how is that working out in California?  The state the dems have controlled for decades that has among the worst homeless issues and the least affordable housing?  It also has the worst wealth and income equality.  Not really a socialist utopia.

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pro same sex marriage, trying to end capital punishment, pro gun control, pro abortion
He would hardly have built his political career in California being anti those things - they are just standard democratic positions.

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pro universal health care
And yet this is nowhere near existing in California and he's backed down on his previous pledges for single-payer.

Anyway, the worst thing is that outside his California base, everyone hates him.  He polls way worse against Trump than Biden does.  He's a complete non-starter.

The democrats are fucked, Biden looks like he won't make it through the next term and nobody else has got the recognition or polling to challenge Trump.  This is Biden's fault  - if it wasn't about his ego and he actually wanted long term success for his party and political stance, then he should have spent the last two years as king maker building up a successor to Trump.  Instead he's created this unholy mess.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2135 on: February 21, 2024, 08:48:34 AM »
The democrats will probably do great in this election. Their base is ginned up on abortion and fear of Trump. It's Biden who isn't looking so good.

But Biden isn't entirely doomed. He could turn things around. His team could get him hopped up on meth,steroids, Adderall, maybe some bath salts. If it doesn't help him win the debate it may make him hulk out and eat Trump's face.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2136 on: February 21, 2024, 09:03:43 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on February 21, 2024, 07:20:08 AM
Jura, try having a normal conversation, for a change. You will not convince me of your righteousness otherwise. If you want me to vote for someone, you should be able to say (with honesty) what's good about them. "helping the homeless" What, helping them to be even more homeless? What affordable housing?   

Slimy real estate investor.
Silicon Valley Bank.
Failing school system.
Rising homelessness.
Rising crime.
Locked down his state, but didn't lock down himself.
Remember that time he had all the homeless relocated so he could clean up San Francisco for Xi Jinping?
California budget deficit "balloons to $73 billion".
Yeah, fuck the women in Chowchilla, whether they want to be fucked or not.

Trump is the better option because he is old and will die soon. Same reason Biden is better than Newsom.

I am not a "single issue voter" but if they will lie about basic reality, what else will they lie about? If they are willing to harm women and children for political gain, they are willing to do anything for power. What kills me is that so many think it's worse that Trump is openly a piece of shit, like somehow it is better if they hide it behind a smarmy facade.

The Democrats have had 50 years to get abortion sorted out. I have come to the realization that most of them don't really care about it. They use it as bait. If you don't elect Democrats you will lose your right to choose! wtf have they been doing this whole time?


i disagree with your reason to vote for trump.
being old and being slimy results in the same thing - manipulation and continuance of the shadow gov't rule by the big corp.


liar:
repubs set the bar so low that lying about basic reality makes the dems lies seem sane to those not paying attention.
but you're paying attention!
but you're also false equivalizing.
but that's why the dems need to be punished for their insolence!
but again, DNC isn't in it for observed power.
they're in it on the pretense of observed sanity meanwhile keep the power with the shadow govt!
dem top brass continue to inside trade and kowtow to big corp!



abortion:
malcoml X said it best
dem will stab you in the back for a vote.
and applies to the abortion.


can't say it enough.
dems keep losing because they need to keep losing.
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“The White liberal is the worst enemy to America and the worst enemy to the Black man. Let me first explain what I mean by this White liberal. In America there’s no such thing as Democrats and Republicans anymore. That’s antiquated. In America you have liberals and conservatives. This is what the American political structure boils down to among Whites. The only people who are still living in the past and thinks in terms of “I’m a Democrat” or “I’m a Republican” is the American Negro. He’s the one who runs around bragging about party affiliation and he’s the one who sticks to the Democrat or sticks to the Republican, but White people in America are divided into two groups, liberals and Republicans…or rather, liberals and conservatives. And when you find White people vote in the political picture, they’re not divided in terms of Democrats and Republicans, they’re divided consistently as conservatives and as liberal. The Democrats who are conservative vote with Republicans who are conservative. Democrats who are liberals vote with Republicans who are liberals. You find this in Washington, DC. Now the White liberals aren’t White people who are for independence, who are liberal, who are moral, who are ethical in their thinking, they are just a faction of White people who are jockeying for power the same as the White conservatives are a faction of White people who are jockeying for power. Now they are fighting each other for booty, for power, for prestige and the one who is the football in the game is the Negro. Twenty million Black people in this country are a political football, a political pawn an economic football, an economic pawn, a social football, a social pawn...”






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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2137 on: February 21, 2024, 09:07:41 AM »
Quote from: JimmyTheLobster on February 21, 2024, 08:17:55 AM
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 21, 2024, 01:43:28 AM

helping the homeless, affordable housing
Radical positions.  And how is that working out in California?  The state the dems have controlled for decades that has among the worst homeless issues and the least affordable housing?  It also has the worst wealth and income equality.  Not really a socialist utopia.

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pro same sex marriage, trying to end capital punishment, pro gun control, pro abortion
He would hardly have built his political career in California being anti those things - they are just standard democratic positions.

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pro universal health care
And yet this is nowhere near existing in California and he's backed down on his previous pledges for single-payer.

Anyway, the worst thing is that outside his California base, everyone hates him.  He polls way worse against Trump than Biden does.  He's a complete non-starter.

The democrats are fucked, Biden looks like he won't make it through the next term and nobody else has got the recognition or polling to challenge Trump.  This is Biden's fault  - if it wasn't about his ego and he actually wanted long term success for his party and political stance, then he should have spent the last two years as king maker building up a successor to Trump.  Instead he's created this unholy mess.


but newsom appears to have more charisma than desantis.
desantis turned out to be a big flop.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2138 on: February 21, 2024, 09:11:22 AM »
tehrre was a vote last year

i can't remember the name of the person, but it came to a tie, and the dems said "ohnooooo we can't pass this because this administrator said it's not practical" or somethingsomething.

they blamed a non elected person for a non vote for the "loss".

what was it for and who was the admin person?
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2139 on: February 21, 2024, 09:31:05 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on February 21, 2024, 07:20:08 AM


The Democrats have had 50 years to get abortion sorted out. I have come to the realization that most of them don't really care about it. They use it as bait. If you don't elect Democrats you will lose your right to choose! wtf have they been doing this whole time?

In fairness, we all thought it was settled in Roe v Wade.  Turns out the new SCOTUS (3 from Trump) disagreed.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2140 on: February 21, 2024, 09:41:45 AM »
i keep telling the 2ndAalltheway crowd - they have a ruling, not a right.




and then someone tried to lecture me the SCOTUS doesn't legislate.



ooooooh really?
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2141 on: February 21, 2024, 12:08:17 PM »
Mr kabool, I forked up about 12 wheelbarrows of shitty hay and moved it to the compost pit. I do not have the energy to decipher your kaboolishness.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2142 on: February 21, 2024, 12:35:00 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on February 21, 2024, 12:08:17 PM
kaboolishness.
Kafoolishness?

Sorry Themightykabool
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2143 on: February 21, 2024, 12:43:17 PM »
Quote from: Lorddave on February 21, 2024, 09:31:05 AM
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on February 21, 2024, 07:20:08 AM


The Democrats have had 50 years to get abortion sorted out. I have come to the realization that most of them don't really care about it. They use it as bait. If you don't elect Democrats you will lose your right to choose! wtf have they been doing this whole time?

In fairness, we all thought it was settled in Roe v Wade.  Turns out the new SCOTUS (3 from Trump) disagreed.



i keep telling the 2ndAalltheway crowd - they have a ruling, not a right.

when people say they have a right under the constitution, i say you have a ruling, not a right.
in ref to roe v heller, i've been trolling the gun crowd telling them they have a ruling, not a right.



and then someone tried to lecture me the SCOTUS doesn't legislate.

and in my trolls, i've been told the SCOTUS does not create laws but here we are, a literally corrupt scotus bypassing the legislative branches of many sovereign states (states rights!) and enacting tyrannical rule over the States right to self govern and inventing a new law where the sovereign citizen is allowed to claim himself the sovereigntiy State.

words have meanings!

but not to the SCOTUS

2008 wasnt that long ago,





A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.




Heller, case in which the U.S. Supreme Court on June 26, 2008, held (5–4) that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess firearms independent of service in a state militia and to use firearms for traditionally lawful purposes, including self-defense within the home.Jan 22, 2024

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A [person], being necessary to the security of [himself], the right of [him-singular] to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2144 on: February 21, 2024, 12:59:35 PM »
KABOOLISHNESS.

I doubt people even know you are trolling them. They will not take the time to decipher your spelling. Or try to read your intention, which I do all the time. Then, sometimes I am disagreeing with you and you say YES WE AGREE, and once again I am wondering wtf you actually posted.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2145 on: February 21, 2024, 01:27:42 PM »

I don't do normal conversation, where have you been.

And as far as this guy goes (there, I've forgotten his name), I pulled up his Wikipedia page and read it through, not, I know the best way, but American politicians are not my forte, and I'm willing to believe he's a sleaze bag, he looks like one, but..........but, I know who is definitely a sleaze bag, who treats women like shit and is a danger to the country and the world, and you say you aren't a “single issue voter” but it sure comes across that way, and I see you veering to the right because of that, with Trump and the Asian “climate change is a hoax” guy, and yes as an American you are fucked for choice (as are we), but the Bernie, AOC wing of the Dem's may not be perfect in anyway but surely to god they are a better option than the pussy grabbing, gun power, science averse, oil burning alternatives? 
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2146 on: February 21, 2024, 01:30:09 PM »
no
i'm not disagreeing with you, in spirit.
i'm agreeing with your notions but applied to other aspects of life.



trolling in terms of fishing terminology.
you put it out there, if you get a bite you get a bite.
gun crowd YT comment section is full odoyle-rules! types highfiving each other and circle jerking.
getting them to think past pewpew has proved futile.
they have their ruling.
they have their gun access.
they don't care beyond that.
they never stay on to engage a full thoughtout discussion.


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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2147 on: February 21, 2024, 01:37:53 PM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 21, 2024, 01:27:42 PM

I don't do normal conversation, where have you been.

And as far as this guy goes (there, I've forgotten his name), I pulled up his Wikipedia page and read it through, not, I know the best way, but American politicians are not my forte, and I'm willing to believe he's a sleaze bag, he looks like one, but..........but, I know who is definitely a sleaze bag, who treats women like shit and is a danger to the country and the world, and you say you aren't a “single issue voter” but it sure comes across that way, and I see you veering to the right because of that, with Trump and the Asian “climate change is a hoax” guy, and yes as an American you are fucked for choice (as are we), but the Bernie, AOC wing of the Dem's may not be perfect in anyway but surely to god they are a better option than the pussy grabbing, gun power, science averse, oil burning alternatives?



trump is the best
nobody tells trump what to do.


except the people who told the SCOTUS waht to do in 2008.


5yrs ago:








4yrs and 9months ago:







and 2wks ago:










people are allowed to change their minds.
the gun club had such a compelling argument that it changed his mind.






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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2148 on: February 21, 2024, 03:21:39 PM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 21, 2024, 01:27:42 PM

I don't do normal conversation, where have you been.

And as far as this guy goes (there, I've forgotten his name), I pulled up his Wikipedia page and read it through, not, I know the best way, but American politicians are not my forte, and I'm willing to believe he's a sleaze bag, he looks like one, but..........but, I know who is definitely a sleaze bag, who treats women like shit and is a danger to the country and the world, and you say you aren't a “single issue voter” but it sure comes across that way, and I see you veering to the right because of that, with Trump and the Asian “climate change is a hoax” guy, and yes as an American you are fucked for choice (as are we), but the Bernie, AOC wing of the Dem's may not be perfect in anyway but surely to god they are a better option than the pussy grabbing, gun power, science averse, oil burning alternatives?

Let me know when Bernie or AOC are running for president.

You don't see me veering in any direction because you don't really care enough about what I say to engage with it. At least the pussy grabbers know what a pussy is.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2149 on: February 21, 2024, 03:42:39 PM »
Dnc has super delegates in place to prevent such a thing.

The P (otus) stands for Puppet.

Hurray for democracy!
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2150 on: February 21, 2024, 03:43:48 PM »
Aoc for prssident?

Is she too nice.
Beware the nice person.
She gonna end up like dragonlady in  gameofthrones.


I like what theyre doing so far but i dunno what she ll be like when she gets into a power position.



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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2151 on: February 21, 2024, 05:31:44 PM »
I think AOC was very idealistic when she first got the job, but the reality of working in Washington probably squashed her dreams.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2152 on: February 21, 2024, 05:53:18 PM »
She had to do consession/ politicking under the wicked witch pelosi.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2153 on: February 21, 2024, 08:35:08 PM »
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At least the pussy grabbers know what a pussy is.

This made me laugh out loud and I believe should be quoted lol.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2154 on: February 22, 2024, 01:44:09 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on February 21, 2024, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on February 21, 2024, 01:27:42 PM

I don't do normal conversation, where have you been.

And as far as this guy goes (there, I've forgotten his name), I pulled up his Wikipedia page and read it through, not, I know the best way, but American politicians are not my forte, and I'm willing to believe he's a sleaze bag, he looks like one, but..........but, I know who is definitely a sleaze bag, who treats women like shit and is a danger to the country and the world, and you say you aren't a “single issue voter” but it sure comes across that way, and I see you veering to the right because of that, with Trump and the Asian “climate change is a hoax” guy, and yes as an American you are fucked for choice (as are we), but the Bernie, AOC wing of the Dem's may not be perfect in anyway but surely to god they are a better option than the pussy grabbing, gun power, science averse, oil burning alternatives?

Let me know when Bernie or AOC are running for president.

You don't see me veering in any direction because you don't really care enough about what I say to engage with it. At least the pussy grabbers know what a pussy is.

You see one minute you say I don’t have a proper conversation and then you post this crap.
As far as I understand, pre-Trump, the president was a representative of his/her party’s ethos, therefore whether I actually like the figurehead or not, if the policies they espouse are more inline with my views, viola!

And the second part. Really?
It impressed Bom (low bar), but I’m just reminded of your insistence that you aren’t a single-issue voter, but the inference being he gets a free ride on his objectional attitudes/rapey behaviour because men in dresses isn’t part of MAGA-land.
To reiterate, (because I don’t think you read all I put, and only remember the triggers), I don’t think biological males should be in women’s prisons, or that juveniles should be tampered with, any surgeries should be put off until at least 20 years old.
But while this is important, it’s a statistically minority problem, if you are willing to let the world go to shit and your children die in droves because Trump “knows what a pussy is”, then you are right about me not caring what you say.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2155 on: February 22, 2024, 06:40:20 AM »
Oh, I got Jura to actually read what I posted! Perhaps I should make all my snarky posts short.

The funny thing is, you keep accusing me of being a single issue voter, and then you go on to accuse the Republicans of being science deniers, and I know the science you are referring to is climate science. So, doesn't that make you a single issue voter? You keep repeating the same dumb shit about Vivek, that he thinks climate change is a hoax, when what he said is that he does believe climate change is happening, and that humans are responsible, but the response to climate change is a hoax. I mean, just a few days ago - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/15/recycling-plastics-producers-report  (I already knew they were lying about recycling, because I watched Frontline: Plastic Wars a few years ago) Anyway, you want politicians to believe "the science" and I want them to believe "the science" but you place more importance on one kind of science, and think the rest is not so important. That's fine, of course. Everyone has issues they think are important. I just feel that if they will lie about basic biology, then they will lie about anything. The gendershit is important to me, because I am paying attention to it. I see it as more than just the direct impact it has on women and children right now, I see how it has allowed govt and institutions to stifle free speech. I see how all that is allowing the medical industrial complex to get away with modern day lobotomies, with the blessing of the ruling elite.

We don't really have two parties in the US, we have a uniparty. They both serve corporate interests. They try to divide us up so we'll be against each other, while they pocket the profits. The media is part of the establishment. The leftish media bubble tells the Dem voters what to think, and the rightish media bubble tells the Rep voters what to think, and we all pretend we're informed on the issues, and anyone who disagrees should be ridiculed. It is a toxic environment.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2156 on: February 22, 2024, 07:50:19 AM »


Well, you are right and wrong, yes they deny climate change, including Vivek (twice) here (https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/23/candidates-clash-over-climate-change-00112637), I bet he may have tried to wriggle off that hook because he got booed and he shows all the flip-flopping skills you would expect of a politician, but he said it, not the response is a hoax but the climate change agenda. This is the republican view because oil.
As for the science and my beliefs, it’s not just climate change but the degradation of the whole environment, covid response all of it.
But the climate change question is liable to harm a shit ton more people than gender reassignment however terrible it is, and for that reason I hold it as more important.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2157 on: February 22, 2024, 09:48:22 AM »
Single issue of death of the planet is a big deal
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2158 on: February 22, 2024, 10:21:06 AM »
Quote from: Themightykabool on February 22, 2024, 09:48:22 AM
Single issue of death of the planet is a big deal

Earth is too big to fail. 
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #2159 on: February 22, 2024, 10:23:46 AM »
But is the Earth really worth saving if it's full of transgendered people?
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