The Taliban have more right to Afghanistan than America. America should just GTFO. Should never have come in the first place
America needs to understand not everyone wants to live like them or care about their brand of 'freedom' and 'democracy'
Of course, the Taliban are dicks. Evil even, but America should stop policing the world and 'interfering' in how other nations do things
America wouldn't be so hated and thus under threat if it kept to itself. This was one of the things Trump wanted to do but ultimately didn't. I wonder if repugnican plebs will praise this move given they most certainly would if Trump did it
Seriously you guys could spend trillions more on Afghanistan and stay for decades. The moment you leave, it will turn to shit. That's just how they roll
Let Afghanistan be China's problem now
The republicans will absolutely be raking Biden over the coals for this failure, completely ignoring the draw down started under their god-king.
Most definitely. And Biden has earned a lot of criticism here. Politically, the upside of this is that it's so immediate. There isn't some long drawn out siege where there's still the option to do anything. It's over. The Taliban owns Afghanistan.
Another upside is that this has been so swift that it's a lot less bloody than it could have been.
I mean, I get that what has happened and will happen going forward is terrible, but what could Biden have done differently, realistically?
He could have kept troops there and not withdrawn, possibly igniting a bit more conflict than was currently happening. This would have also continued America's involvement at least 4 more years, effectively passing the buck to the next president for a draw down and the same result to happen. This would have wasted time, money, and lives. Or he could have delayed his draw down to get people out. This was probably the best move, but this should have been occurring since the plan of the draw down started. There should have been a very clear plan to get all of the non-military Afghans who assisted us out of the country before the US left, the fact this didn't appear to be the case is the only real blunder I see out of this.
There's the botched withdrawal. I guess in the big picture that's somewhat minor.
There's also an aftermath to this that we haven't address yet, the refugee crisis. If we, which includes every developed nation, don't create a plan to handle this then we're going to have another situation like the Syrian refugee crisis.
The government of Afghanistan handed over power to the Taliban. Like it or not, it's not your problem. Yes, you came in, screwed it over like so many other countries you touched but at some point, you have to say the destiny of Afghanistan is with Afghans.
You could say that every Afghanistan is a potential refugee. As you could say every North Korean is. Or every Syrian or every person in any impoverished country run by corrupt dictators are. You cant save them all. Now while you certainly screwed it up, you've been in there for 20 years. You gave them a chance. You trained them and showed them a different way (eg where women and girls could get an education and have a voice in a government). You guys could not be there forever and had to leave at
some point. I imagine the result would be the same even if you stayed in there keeping the Taliban in check for another 20 years. This was always going to happen the moment you left
Now the Afghan government and defense force, given the tools and training, they turned tail and ran or surrendered. That's on them. Not Biden or Trump or any other American President who it may have been left to. Repugnicans are just expressing faux rage because they can. Not because they give a shit for the plight of Afghan civilians.
America is not the only country to say to hell with the translators and the other civilians who risked their lives to help the soldiers. Australia reneged on the promise of granting citizenship to the Afghans who helped our soldiers and left them to die using a stupid technicality. Some already have been killed
Oh I'm sorry, your application has been denied because you actually didn't work for the Australian government. You were a sub contractor because you were hired through someone else we employed.
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