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Why do you support Joe Biden?

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Why do you support Joe Biden?

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #690 on: July 19, 2021, 05:04:58 AM »
It must be graphable.
The population is X the crazies is Y%.
It just seems like a lot because of the overall size.



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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #691 on: July 19, 2021, 01:21:30 PM »
What we nees to ask is: How do we get social media to decrease the spread of fake information?
I seriously doubt that it's possible because people just love to gossip and the internet is the ultimate water cooler.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #692 on: July 19, 2021, 02:06:38 PM »
What we nees to ask is: How do we get social media to decrease the spread of fake information?  Because they sure as hell don't want to do it themselves.  Why would they?
I agree with you here. And it's entirely possible there is an answer that involves regulation that needs to be considered to help fix the disinformation issues that are rampant on social media, or maybe there's a different solution that will be better in the long run, I don't pretend to know or have the right answer. I just think it's probably worth taking a moment to consider the potential pitfalls in having the executive branch of the federal government pressuring private industry into suppressing speech they deem unacceptable.

And to SCG's point, it is entirely possible this is getting overblown by media from the right - this is all just based on a handful of statements from Psaki, after all. But her statements about it should be alarming to everyone and definitely shouldn't be ignored, like it has been, by media from the left just because she's part of "their team" or whatever.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #693 on: July 19, 2021, 03:21:38 PM »
Right? I agree we need to figure something out, but we've fallen into this way of thinking that I think is kinda dangerous. If we refuse to look at our own side critically and hold our own representatives accountable they will corrupt.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #694 on: July 19, 2021, 03:45:08 PM »
I'm seeing a pattern.  The Biden administration brainstorms a solution to a problem.  The most extreme nutjobs on the right take it to a ridiculous conclusion.  Biden gives up on the idea.

Vaccine passports.  I don't know if this was something Biden seriously considered.  I think someone floated in a press conference or something.  Then Ron Desantis starts passing legislation banning vaccine passports.

Door to door vaccinations.  Not sure if this was a serious idea or even practical.  But this lead to this very measured response.  Where they compared health care workers to nazis.  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-refers-nazi-era-brown-shirts-opposing-n1273204

It's possible that the government is overstepping their bounds with Facebook.  But if it's people like the Jewish space laser lady claiming it then I'm a little skeptical.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #695 on: July 19, 2021, 03:55:32 PM »
Literally the only person I've heard speak about it that is in a position to be "in the know" is Psaki, from the clips I posted before. It's entirely possible she misspoke, but she hasn't said that. It's possible she overstated what is going on, which is just a fancy way of still saying she misspoke I guess. Anyway, she's not exactly MTG, is the point.

I'll put it this way. Even if I think the WH has good intentions with getting involved to provide up to date and accurate messaging to keep Americans safe during a pandemic, we have laws and societal norms to ensure the government isn't repressing speech. When the mouthpiece for POTUS comes out and states directly to the American public that the government is actually trying to encourage influential individuals or private corporations (because they're people too, after all, right?) to repress speech, it's my opinion that part of being a responsible citizen is to call that out so it can be addressed instead of ignoring it under either the assumption or the hope that a message was just poorly worded.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #696 on: July 19, 2021, 03:59:45 PM »
I'm seeing a pattern.  The Biden administration brainstorms a solution to a problem.  The most extreme nutjobs on the right take it to a ridiculous conclusion.  Biden gives up on the idea.

Vaccine passports.  I don't know if this was something Biden seriously considered.  I think someone floated in a press conference or something.  Then Ron Desantis starts passing legislation banning vaccine passports.

Door to door vaccinations.  Not sure if this was a serious idea or even practical.  But this lead to this very measured response.  Where they compared health care workers to nazis.  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-refers-nazi-era-brown-shirts-opposing-n1273204

It's possible that the government is overstepping their bounds with Facebook.  But if it's people like the Jewish space laser lady claiming it then I'm a little skeptical.

The dems actively said they don't support and won't attempt to do anything involving vaccine passports. So what did Ted Cruz do? Go on national TV and boast how bad vaccine passports are and he would table something  to prevent the government from enabling it. Virtue signalling bastard.

Even when both sides are in agreement, the opposition pretends that they aren't to appeal to their moronic bases pretending they are 'fixing' a problem (that never existed)

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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #697 on: July 19, 2021, 05:02:39 PM »
Doesnt have to be repressed.
It just has to be recategorized.

If yelling fire in a crowded theatre can be exempt, then knowingly saying that chavez stole the election or rhat covid can be fought off with wolfsbane should too.
Hells   People who spread revenge porn on platforms.

Its holding accountable to hurtful lies that cause harm.
Or lible/ defamation/ uttering threats.

Frivulous lawsuits are very popular in the usa.
This wouild be very profitable expansion of rhat industry



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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #698 on: July 19, 2021, 05:06:55 PM »
I don't think issues that are current political hot buttons should be normalized as targets for the government to make illegal for public discourse. Seems like a bad path to start paving.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #699 on: July 19, 2021, 05:16:39 PM »
All the free speech nerds cringe every time someone uses the "fire in a crowded theater" analogy.

I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #700 on: July 19, 2021, 08:10:31 PM »
I'm seeing a pattern.  The Biden administration brainstorms a solution to a problem.  The most extreme nutjobs on the right take it to a ridiculous conclusion.  Biden gives up on the idea.

Vaccine passports.  I don't know if this was something Biden seriously considered.  I think someone floated in a press conference or something.  Then Ron Desantis starts passing legislation banning vaccine passports.

Door to door vaccinations.  Not sure if this was a serious idea or even practical.  But this lead to this very measured response.  Where they compared health care workers to nazis.  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-refers-nazi-era-brown-shirts-opposing-n1273204

It's possible that the government is overstepping their bounds with Facebook.  But if it's people like the Jewish space laser lady claiming it then I'm a little skeptical.

Interesting,  I wonder if the right can be manipulated......   I suggest Biden pass laws making voting mandatory and a vaccine passport must be presented as ID when voting.

The GOP will then react and campaign against voting.   Game Over!
Stop gilding the pickle, you demisexual aromantic homoflexible snowflake.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #701 on: July 19, 2021, 11:04:06 PM »
State issued Driver License # or ID # or last 4 digits of your SSN.You don't even need to present the actual document.
If I was a democrat I would be pissed off that my party thought I was to stupid
to vote like everyone else.





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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #702 on: July 20, 2021, 01:07:22 AM »
Apparently no other country has evee vote before.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #703 on: July 20, 2021, 01:16:18 AM »
Apparently no other country has evee vote before.
what?

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #704 on: July 20, 2021, 02:51:57 AM »
I'm seeing a pattern.  The Biden administration brainstorms a solution to a problem.  The most extreme nutjobs on the right take it to a ridiculous conclusion.  Biden gives up on the idea.

Vaccine passports.  I don't know if this was something Biden seriously considered.  I think someone floated in a press conference or something.  Then Ron Desantis starts passing legislation banning vaccine passports.

Door to door vaccinations.  Not sure if this was a serious idea or even practical.  But this lead to this very measured response.  Where they compared health care workers to nazis.  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-refers-nazi-era-brown-shirts-opposing-n1273204

It's possible that the government is overstepping their bounds with Facebook.  But if it's people like the Jewish space laser lady claiming it then I'm a little skeptical.

The dems actively said they don't support and won't attempt to do anything involving vaccine passports. So what did Ted Cruz do? Go on national TV and boast how bad vaccine passports are and he would table something  to prevent the government from enabling it. Virtue signalling bastard.

Even when both sides are in agreement, the opposition pretends that they aren't to appeal to their moronic bases pretending they are 'fixing' a problem (that never existed)

Well yes.  How else can you keep up the narrative?
Then they submit a bill with that plus a bunch of other crap Dems won't vote for, have it blocked, then cry foul about it.
Like making puppy killing a federal crime as well as making it legal to kill kittens.  Then claim you hate puppies when its voted down. 
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #705 on: July 20, 2021, 03:45:29 AM »

Like making puppy killing a federal crime as well as making it legal to kill kittens.  Then claim you hate puppies when its voted down.
but, we can still kill kittens, right?

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #706 on: July 20, 2021, 04:04:03 AM »

Like making puppy killing a federal crime as well as making it legal to kill kittens.  Then claim you hate puppies when its voted down.
but, we can still kill kittens, right?

Only with your Vet's conscent.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #707 on: July 20, 2021, 04:15:16 AM »

Only with your Vet's conscent.
My uncle fought in a war, I'll ask him.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #708 on: July 20, 2021, 07:46:08 AM »

Only with your Vet's conscent.
My uncle fought in a war, I'll ask him.

Against cats? 
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #709 on: July 20, 2021, 07:48:57 AM »

Only with your Vet's conscent.
My uncle fought in a war, I'll ask him.

Against cats?
Also known as The Pussy Rebellion.
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Themightykabool

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #710 on: July 20, 2021, 08:30:51 AM »
for moral's sake please at least make it quick and pain free.
don't use garbage bags.
garbage bags are not quick...

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #711 on: July 20, 2021, 08:43:54 AM »
launched with a trebuchet is the only humane way to do it.  Possibly a catapult if you're into bad puns.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #712 on: July 20, 2021, 09:11:26 AM »
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #713 on: July 20, 2021, 02:28:55 PM »
launched with a trebuchet is the only humane way to do it.  Possibly a catapult if you're into bad puns.

Cats are your masters and you will show them the respect they are due!

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #714 on: July 20, 2021, 04:12:13 PM »
launched with a trebuchet is the only humane way to do it.  Possibly a catapult if you're into bad puns.

Cats are your masters and you will show them the respect they are due!
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #715 on: July 21, 2021, 07:37:39 AM »
https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1417632374872059907?s=20

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The president should know that it's not Section 230 that protects social media companies from liability for false information.

It's the First Amendment.

The Constitution protects people — and social media companies — from government censorship campaigns.

Wow, the ACLU hasn't stood for free speech in a long time. I hope they're getting back on mission.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #716 on: July 22, 2021, 07:57:44 AM »
I just found out Wendell Potter has a substack! Anyway, this is really interesting about medical debt in the US. I'm putting it in the Biden thread because he wants the Biden administration to focus on this. https://wendellpotter.substack.com/p/nyt-medical-debt
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #717 on: July 22, 2021, 08:16:40 AM »
I just found out Wendell Potter has a substack! Anyway, this is really interesting about medical debt in the US. I'm putting it in the Biden thread because he wants the Biden administration to focus on this. https://wendellpotter.substack.com/p/nyt-medical-debt

Fixing it, sadly, is just not possible.
No matter what Biden wants to do, half of congress won't let him.  The insurance companies won't let him.  Half of America would riot if he tries.
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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #718 on: July 22, 2021, 08:37:53 AM »
You are right about the insurance industry. I think the half of America could be persuaded by someone who knows how to do it, but they could easily be whipped up against it by someone more clever. We are fucking doomed.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Why do you support Joe Biden?
« Reply #719 on: July 22, 2021, 01:41:41 PM »
You are right about the insurance industry. I think the half of America could be persuaded by someone who knows how to do it, but they could easily be whipped up against it by someone more clever. We are fucking doomed.

A horror story in the making. Infinite profit growth is just not possible yet it seems that is the goal. It will break at some point and then you will be doomed

I think the world (not just America) needs to see the writing on the wall and just 'debt forgiveness' everything and start a new system entirely. But that is wishful thinking and will remain that way

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